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August 15, 2024, 08:43:30 PM
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Everything in this life deserves a initial plan and that’s what a lot peoples are lack off, they don’t that having experience about the gambling is very important but once some see say that many of people are lucky by achieving their aim instead of them to go and learn to gain knowledge before they can also try , but they will not they will think that since there friends has get a luck what will stop them from achieving too.

Furthermore, all understand that the wining it depends on a luck, but if a person didn’t try to lean a little for him earn some knowledge it will definitely end of losing a lot of his money in gambling,

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August 15, 2024, 08:52:20 PM
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in some games the luck component remains but strategy could be important, for example if you play texas holdem and you are a good person who has a memory and knows how to count cards and calculate probabilities in the long run you will have a positive balance series
but how many are able to follow this? very little
I remember the games I played with friends, after two hours I was tired: professional players play all night without sleeping and without feeling tired
so not everyone can do it
I think you are confusing texas hold'em with backjack, because counting cards in texas hold'em doesn't give you any kind of edge. You can count probabilities in poker though, but doing that doesn't get you far imho, it just basically makes sure you are choosing same things as bots do, and i don't know any poker bots that would actually make money, as they couldn't read other players and their emotions.

Poker is interesting and while luck is heavily involved in it, same people keep on ending up in last tables on the tournament. Not always, as no matter how "good" you are in it, you might lose to newbie just because of dumb luck.

And like you said, professional people play all-nighters, that's why it isn't for me. I have won some tournaments in the past, and it's really addictive, but you need to either put serious money for enter fee or use lot of time to win that enter fee. And in both cases, you are using lots of time to get to final prizes, if you ever get there. And dropping near the end is so annoying. After taxes that's less then making money with minimum wage job. And at least with minimum wage job you are definitely going to get paid.

And top of that it gets nerve breaking when there's serious money involved, especially in the last table of the tournament.

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August 15, 2024, 08:57:04 PM
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Gamblers have learned to link gaming to real-life thoughts like superstitious beliefs. It's irrelevant to perform rituals, and all sorts of less effective things to enhance their winning chances in a luck-based game. For instance, you'd see gamblers switching machines because they've lost a lot on a specific machine. Believing that an itchy palm signifies a lucky day is also a superstitious thought by players which doesn't help in any way.

Gambling shouldn't be associated with such superstitious beliefs. It'll only contradict the thoughts of a player. I was intrigued to see in this casino blog the numerous rituals players do such as wearing red to the casino since it signifies prosperity in China.
Lolz, are such things still in existence with in this 21 century? Anyways, I am not going to say it's unbelievable since I know that such gambling rituals is something a lot of gamblers believed in in the past.

But then on the other, speaking of switching machine during games because the gambler have lost supposedly so much money playing on the machine he or she wants to switch for another, this one is quite understandable since it's very possible that the machine could be faulty.
So, if you ask me, I did say that this one has absolutely nothing to do with the gambler being superstitious, it's simply one of those careful moves to make sure that no external obstacle is hindering the gambler from winning aside luck.

Your response on switching machines is valid, but a faulty machine shows unique signs like displaying jackpots that are not genuine. Though some players would admit that their numerous losses are derived from a faulty machine, if the machine shows no such glitch, it could be tagged superstitious. All the machines still work under the same house edge.

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August 16, 2024, 02:11:30 AM
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Is that this vision always occurs when we do not respond to thinking that the money that is won in the casino can fix our life, and no, the money that we could win in the casino is casual, it is by mere luck, it is money that we should not delude ourselves with, that is the reason why many people think that the casino is the way out of things, of problems and no, because of having very good luck, but in a matter of seconds everything can change and lose large amounts of money, but that is why we should always limit what we are going to spend in a casino.
Yes, that will be a luck if we can win from gambling so that makes many people still believe that they can get luck someday. It is fine to have a vision or thought about that but we must realizes that we can not win easily. Luck and experience can makes someone keep playing gambling because they think that they will have their luck and that will helps them to win. If they can realizes that the important thing from playing gambling is just trying to enjoy the games and relax themselves, they will not thinks about the win instead just enjoy their spare time. Winning will not be a matter for them because they will realizes if they can win someday and they will not chase it by playing gambling excessively. So they just want to fills their spare time by playing gambling no matter if they have luck or experience.

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August 16, 2024, 05:32:50 AM
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If the gambler is new or have experience already, gambling is still luck. Your friend told you it is experience that makes him win, but there are times that no strategy or experience that you will use that will make you win. Also there are sometimes if he continues to gamble, he may lose the money that he won already. Gambling is luck for everyone but some people have the experience to increase the chance of winning, but sometimes as they use the strategy, their loss may even be more.

An experienced gambler and a beginner both requires luck in gambling, I know people with a lot of experience that haven't benefitted much or anything at all from gambling and there are people that just try on the first day with random picks winning huge amounts of money. Although experience is quite important too but gambling is basically about luck because no matter how well you think your predictions and analysis are the outcome might just be a surprise to you, anything can happen at the end of the day
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August 16, 2024, 05:36:21 AM
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If the gambler is new or have experience already, gambling is still luck. Your friend told you it is experience that makes him win, but there are times that no strategy or experience that you will use that will make you win. Also there are sometimes if he continues to gamble, he may lose the money that he won already. Gambling is luck for everyone but some people have the experience to increase the chance of winning, but sometimes as they use the strategy, their loss may even be more.

An experienced gambler and a beginner both requires luck in gambling, I know people with a lot of experience that haven't benefitted much or anything at all from gambling and there are people that just try on the first day with random picks winning huge amounts of money. Although experience is quite important too but gambling is basically about luck because no matter how well you think your predictions and analysis are the outcome might just be a surprise to you, anything can happen at the end of the day

It's important to go with the money that you are willing to spend regarding the situations you described, that way these outcomes won't make you sad and if there is a win, you will be happy Grin

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August 16, 2024, 07:08:30 AM
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Yes, it is true that experience can help you a lot in terms of winning, but remember that it is nothing more than a tool, which does not mean that having experience means you can guarantee victory even if you bet on a type of game that can be analyzed. On the other hand, I will also say the same thing that beginners succeed in winning, most likely because of luck that comes at the right time.

But that does not mean that when you have a lot of experience, you will never lose at all, because in the end, only luck will be able to confirm your victory. In gambling, there are many unexpected things, and I have experienced some truly unexpected results when I bet on a type of sports betting where a team that was much more favored actually lost to a team in the relegation zone because of something that happened on the field unexpectedly. So maybe I would say that even though you have a lot of experience, victory will still always depend on luck.

Unfortunately, winning really depends on luck in many ways. And it's a shame when a gambler uses all his skills to get the coveted prize, but in reality it turns out that it was his unlucky day, and then all efforts lead to a loss.
Therefore, gambling is not quite a grateful business, because a fully thought-out personality does not work in cases where there is a luck factor and it is so big.

I think that if only gambling could be studied as a whole to produce accurate predictions, then maybe many gamblers would have succeeded in making a lot of money and becoming rich, but yes, the reality is not like that, and I think that is a natural thing in gambling, because after all the bookies are in power because they are the ones who create the various types of games provided.
So if we think about focusing ourselves on getting a lot of money, then in the end all of that will only end in vain, and it has been proven that in most cases gamblers actually lose a lot of money instead of making money.

That is also the reason why gambling is always recommended to only be used as a place of entertainment to fill boring free time, because with such a goal, I think it is clear that it is unlikely for a gambler to act excessively when money is not a top priority. IMO, however and whenever an activity that is based on luck will never make sense to be used as a place to try one's luck.

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August 16, 2024, 08:47:17 AM
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If the gambler is new or have experience already, gambling is still luck. Your friend told you it is experience that makes him win, but there are times that no strategy or experience that you will use that will make you win. Also there are sometimes if he continues to gamble, he may lose the money that he won already. Gambling is luck for everyone but some people have the experience to increase the chance of winning, but sometimes as they use the strategy, their loss may even be more.

An experienced gambler and a beginner both requires luck in gambling, I know people with a lot of experience that haven't benefitted much or anything at all from gambling and there are people that just try on the first day with random picks winning huge amounts of money. Although experience is quite important too but gambling is basically about luck because no matter how well you think your predictions and analysis are the outcome might just be a surprise to you, anything can happen at the end of the day

It's important to go with the money that you are willing to spend regarding the situations you described, that way these outcomes won't make you sad and if there is a win, you will be happy Grin

Yes, it will always be a recommended approach to gambling by only betting the amount we can afford to lose, because the benefits are quite large, where by only betting a small amount it will be able to prevent a gambler from various impulsive actions due to emotions, and will also prevent a gambler from significant regret.

In addition, this approach is also something that will indirectly keep gamblers safe in the long term, in the sense of avoiding various possible terrible bad impacts. However, it is a fact that gambling is an activity that involves money, chance and risk, and I think we all know that winning always depends on luck, meaning that of course we better focus on risk management, in the sense of preparing various ways to avoid too much risk, and one of them is by limiting the amount of bets, that's the most important thing.

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August 16, 2024, 09:16:53 AM
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In addition, this approach is also something that will indirectly keep gamblers safe in the long term, in the sense of avoiding various possible terrible bad impacts. However, it is a fact that gambling is an activity that involves money, chance and risk, and I think we all know that winning always depends on luck, meaning that of course we better focus on risk management, in the sense of preparing various ways to avoid too much risk, and one of them is by limiting the amount of bets, that's the most important thing.
Great addition! It's essential to keep good well-being as a major factor as well as to improve risk management in order to achieve a good time while gambling.

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August 16, 2024, 09:55:38 AM
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If the gambler is new or have experience already, gambling is still luck. Your friend told you it is experience that makes him win, but there are times that no strategy or experience that you will use that will make you win. Also there are sometimes if he continues to gamble, he may lose the money that he won already. Gambling is luck for everyone but some people have the experience to increase the chance of winning, but sometimes as they use the strategy, their loss may even be more.

An experienced gambler and a beginner both requires luck in gambling, I know people with a lot of experience that haven't benefitted much or anything at all from gambling and there are people that just try on the first day with random picks winning huge amounts of money. Although experience is quite important too but gambling is basically about luck because no matter how well you think your predictions and analysis are the outcome might just be a surprise to you, anything can happen at the end of the day

It's important to go with the money that you are willing to spend regarding the situations you described, that way these outcomes won't make you sad and if there is a win, you will be happy Grin

Yes, it will always be a recommended approach to gambling by only betting the amount we can afford to lose, because the benefits are quite large, where by only betting a small amount it will be able to prevent a gambler from various impulsive actions due to emotions, and will also prevent a gambler from significant regret.

In addition, this approach is also something that will indirectly keep gamblers safe in the long term, in the sense of avoiding various possible terrible bad impacts. However, it is a fact that gambling is an activity that involves money, chance and risk, and I think we all know that winning always depends on luck, meaning that of course we better focus on risk management, in the sense of preparing various ways to avoid too much risk, and one of them is by limiting the amount of bets, that's the most important thing.
Yes, that's what every gambler should do, improve risk management and bet an amount of money they can afford to lose, think of it as pocket money allocated for partying. The most important thing here is to keep time so as not to continue gambling or in the sense of becoming an addict, no matter how small the amount spent if we can't control ourselves by continuing to gamble is the same as approaching poverty. This is what must always be prepared,

It is true that basically everyone understands and understands that gambling is a game of luck. From the beginning they, I, and you understand that, there is no experience factor involved in luck, experience is something we have experienced in the past so that the gambling we play in the present can be well organized according to our planning, and avoid consecutive defeats.

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In addition, this approach is also something that will indirectly keep gamblers safe in the long term, in the sense of avoiding various possible terrible bad impacts. However, it is a fact that gambling is an activity that involves money, chance and risk, and I think we all know that winning always depends on luck, meaning that of course we better focus on risk management, in the sense of preparing various ways to avoid too much risk, and one of them is by limiting the amount of bets, that's the most important thing.

Absolutely right, but many gamblers do not see the boundaries between the money set aside for the current gaming session and the rest of the deposit. They perceive it all as one. And this is wrong. But I know why they think so. If a gambler has lost the entire deposit for a gaming session, he wants to win it back, he feels that if he continues to play, he will win it back. And this is a false feeling. But it makes you remove restrictions from various amounts that are set aside for different periods of life.

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August 16, 2024, 11:15:31 AM
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If the gambler is new or have experience already, gambling is still luck. Your friend told you it is experience that makes him win, but there are times that no strategy or experience that you will use that will make you win. Also there are sometimes if he continues to gamble, he may lose the money that he won already. Gambling is luck for everyone but some people have the experience to increase the chance of winning, but sometimes as they use the strategy, their loss may even be more.

An experienced gambler and a beginner both requires luck in gambling, I know people with a lot of experience that haven't benefitted much or anything at all from gambling and there are people that just try on the first day with random picks winning huge amounts of money. Although experience is quite important too but gambling is basically about luck because no matter how well you think your predictions and analysis are the outcome might just be a surprise to you, anything can happen at the end of the day

It's important to go with the money that you are willing to spend regarding the situations you described, that way these outcomes won't make you sad and if there is a win, you will be happy Grin

Yes, it will always be a recommended approach to gambling by only betting the amount we can afford to lose, because the benefits are quite large, where by only betting a small amount it will be able to prevent a gambler from various impulsive actions due to emotions, and will also prevent a gambler from significant regret.

In addition, this approach is also something that will indirectly keep gamblers safe in the long term, in the sense of avoiding various possible terrible bad impacts. However, it is a fact that gambling is an activity that involves money, chance and risk, and I think we all know that winning always depends on luck, meaning that of course we better focus on risk management, in the sense of preparing various ways to avoid too much risk, and one of them is by limiting the amount of bets, that's the most important thing.

Yeah, risk management will prevent you from making the same mistake over and over, I guess if you can work and deal with your luck and make it favorable to you, then it will allow you not just to enjoy but more on taking that luck in your favor and avoiding you from losing a lot, it's something that you should decide each time you play your game, gambling is more on luck as we all knew but it's you that needs to play on it on a wise way and let you take that advantage side.

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August 16, 2024, 11:29:53 AM
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In addition, this approach is also something that will indirectly keep gamblers safe in the long term, in the sense of avoiding various possible terrible bad impacts. However, it is a fact that gambling is an activity that involves money, chance and risk, and I think we all know that winning always depends on luck, meaning that of course we better focus on risk management, in the sense of preparing various ways to avoid too much risk, and one of them is by limiting the amount of bets, that's the most important thing.

Absolutely right, but many gamblers do not see the boundaries between the money set aside for the current gaming session and the rest of the deposit. They perceive it all as one. And this is wrong. But I know why they think so. If a gambler has lost the entire deposit for a gaming session, he wants to win it back, he feels that if he continues to play, he will win it back. And this is a false feeling. But it makes you remove restrictions from various amounts that are set aside for different periods of life.
You are right, but as I always will try to look at things or situations like this from both sides, it is wrong to completely write off the possibility of one losing his entire money and then winning it back after continual playing for a while, it's possible, but rarely happen, and this possibly why many preach against such practise as using their entire balance for their gambling activity.

On a few occasions I've witnessed, gamblers have lost their entire balance gambling, but raised money to continue playing, maybe not the same day but days after, they end up winning the money, even much more than they have previously lost, I understand this is not something that happens quite often, or a kind of luck every gambler would possess of have, and this is why we advice people to practise safe gambling, which one of the ways is to set aside funds for it.

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August 16, 2024, 01:43:28 PM
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~snip~
Yes, that's what every gambler should do, improve risk management and bet an amount of money they can afford to lose, think of it as pocket money allocated for partying. The most important thing here is to keep time so as not to continue gambling or in the sense of becoming an addict, no matter how small the amount spent if we can't control ourselves by continuing to gamble is the same as approaching poverty. This is what must always be prepared,

It is true that basically everyone understands and understands that gambling is a game of luck. From the beginning they, I, and you understand that, there is no experience factor involved in luck, experience is something we have experienced in the past so that the gambling we play in the present can be well organized according to our planning, and avoid consecutive defeats.
Learning is more important in gambling than winning. You find it comparable to night out budgeting? No, it's about smart financial planning. Every bet is an choice. For what reason are you doing this? What exactly do you wish for?

Ask such questions, and instead of merely seeking a high, gambling becomes into self-discovery. It's about taming your damn self, not about controlling the game

The unpredictable nature of life is here, in gambling. Get used to this. Experience changes you, but it does not change the chances. Every gamble should be a choice rather than a need. Responsible gambling is about managing your brain in the chaos of your mind, not about money. Examine the patterns to help you understand why you find the risk appealing rather than to forecast the future. The actual game is there

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August 16, 2024, 04:18:06 PM
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If the gambler is new or have experience already, gambling is still luck. Your friend told you it is experience that makes him win, but there are times that no strategy or experience that you will use that will make you win. Also there are sometimes if he continues to gamble, he may lose the money that he won already. Gambling is luck for everyone but some people have the experience to increase the chance of winning, but sometimes as they use the strategy, their loss may even be more.
Only a few times experience do work when gambling, most of the other times, it's basically luck and only a few do agree to this because most persons do want to pride in their experience until they suffer losses they begin to give credence to the fact that luck has got a pivotal role gambling. If experience is all that matters then many gamblers would be swimming in millions and by now some casinos should be shutting down already as the experienced gamblers would be milking them so hard already.

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Everything requires both experience and luck, especially when it comes to gambling, both experience and luck are very important for gambling. But inexperienced gamblers often have good luck but cannot do well simply because of lack of experience. Again many experienced gamblers have been seen going bankrupt just because of bad luck. Therefore, both luck and experience are applicable to gambling, one can never imagine anything good without the other.

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I think you are confusing texas hold'em with backjack,...

Interesting you are a professional gamer. I'm just someone who played it with friends, so my opinion is based on what it finds. After two hours I can't think straight anymore.
But thank you for sharing your impressions and experiences. If you like, tell us more because it's a very interesting thing to know.
So you're telling me that luck is still worth a lot in Texas Holdem too?

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August 16, 2024, 04:36:18 PM
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Everything requires both experience and luck, especially when it comes to gambling, both experience and luck are very important for gambling. But inexperienced gamblers often have good luck but cannot do well simply because of lack of experience. Again many experienced gamblers have been seen going bankrupt just because of bad luck. Therefore, both luck and experience are applicable to gambling, one can never imagine anything good without the other.

If more experienced gamblers go bankrupt, then I think having experience in gambling is no longer important. Because, in reality, luck remains the main factor for every player or every gambler to make a profit. Because of course, if having experience is the main thing, then people who have experience in gambling should be successful in making a profit on every bet they make and not lose.

Indeed, if they have experience, at least bettors will be able to do it independently and well, but if the result is losing, then I think it will only be useless if they gamble targeting a win and profit. So yes, in this case for me luck remains the main factor compared to experience.

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August 16, 2024, 04:40:05 PM
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Absolutely right, but many gamblers do not see the boundaries between the money set aside for the current gaming session and the rest of the deposit. They perceive it all as one. And this is wrong. But I know why they think so. If a gambler has lost the entire deposit for a gaming session, he wants to win it back, he feels that if he continues to play, he will win it back. And this is a false feeling. But it makes you remove restrictions from various amounts that are set aside for different periods of life.
Of course, trying to recover lost money after losing is a wrong move although sometimes one is lucky to recover it. Many gamblers will actually lose more money when they recover their losses, but they are so excited that they forget about the risks. In the end, predictably, they lost entire deposit.

Gambler experience can basically help gamblers increase their probability of winning. I'm not talking about games like slots, dice or luck-based games, but it's about games that rely on skill and knowledge. In sports betting, knowledge and experience are really useful, they can increase the probability of winning even though luck is also an important factor.

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August 16, 2024, 05:07:00 PM
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This is where I disagree with the fact that there are basically no experienced players even in the case when a player plays games that are based on pure chance 50/50.

 In this case, experience lies in managing your money and comes down in general terms to an elementary rule: an experienced player knows and feels much better when to stop playing.  And this intuitive feeling is much less developed in a player whom we all consider inexperienced.  In my opinion, this experience of old players cannot be completely ignored; it allows them to lose less at approximately the same time intervals than newcomers to gambling and inexperienced players do.
You have given me the best explanation to experienced player here which I haven't read from any other user here. perhaps people think experience has to do with you knowing what game or match to bet on or gamble that will turn out to be a win but they truth is something different. one only uses his or her experience to avoid more losses than predict better even though youncan stand the chance of predicting better but thats not what it's meant to be.

Perhaps the earlier gamblers begin to realize the experience only comes in on knowing when to stop to avoid or stop loses hence they will  make better gambling decisions.
It’s probably quite difficult to say when such an experience comes to a player.  Apparently, you need to play for quite a long time, many years, so that the feelings and emotions from gambling would be quite dulled and would not evoke such emotions as it happens in a novice gambler.  And this period, of course, can vary from person to person and greatly depends on their abilities and character traits.  Perhaps this stage of the player's experience can be called habituation. 
And all this, of course, makes his game more relaxed and, on average, all this leads to minimizing the costs of games when compared with the costs of novice players.

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