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September 03, 2024, 10:33:07 AM
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What's there to argue about... In card games (for example, poker), experience and calculation over a "long distance" are more important than luck. There is only luck in roulette. And each round is as if there were no previous ones. A famous case in the Monte Carlo casino on August 18, 1913, black fell out 26 times in a row at one of the roulette tables. People lost a lot of money because they bet on red. Finding patterns in such games is an example of "gambler's fallacy". This is a well-known example of the independence of random events.
I think you are mistaken gambling to be something else like a skilled stuff. No matter how many years that you have gambled, your luck is what will bring your wins to you and not by what you know in the game and for how long you have being playing the game. Let's take a look of your example which is poker, if you professional poker players are gambling on the table, the card that they pick is what  determine who wins the game because they are both experienced. This is where luck supercedes experience or skills in gambling.

A gambler can only use experience and skill to win an amateur or a new gambler that does not understand much about the game. This is why the casino always win because you are playing with a bot.

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September 03, 2024, 12:15:00 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

At the end of the day it is all just luck.

It doesn't matter if you know that a dice has 1/6 chances of giving you a three, you still have to roll it and see what happens.

Someone might have no idea about it and bet on a three and get it while you might get the odds and know everything in detail and roll a 2.

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September 03, 2024, 12:29:11 PM
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What's there to argue about... In card games (for example, poker), experience and calculation over a "long distance" are more important than luck. There is only luck in roulette. And each round is as if there were no previous ones. A famous case in the Monte Carlo casino on August 18, 1913, black fell out 26 times in a row at one of the roulette tables. People lost a lot of money because they bet on red. Finding patterns in such games is an example of "gambler's fallacy". This is a well-known example of the independence of random events.
I think you are mistaken gambling to be something else like a skilled stuff. No matter how many years that you have gambled, your luck is what will bring your wins to you and not by what you know in the game and for how long you have being playing the game. Let's take a look of your example which is poker, if you professional poker players are gambling on the table, the card that they pick is what  determine who wins the game because they are both experienced. This is where luck supercedes experience or skills in gambling.

A gambler can only use experience and skill to win an amateur or a new gambler that does not understand much about the game. This is why the casino always win because you are playing with a bot.
That's exactly it, that's why I prefer poker to other gambling games. You can come out a winner there, but you can do it with hard and very long training. In addition to knowing excellent mathematics and pot odds, we must be able to control ourselves even when a beginner beats us several times in a hand and the whole table sees it. For professionals, this is the most painful because they came just to win the stack and chips from beginners. But a beginner can also get lucky and sometimes he wins professionals, it gives him great pleasure. If we take games in which it is almost impossible to win in the long run, then I prefer not to play them again. I still believe when a lot depends on me, and not just rely on luck.

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September 03, 2024, 02:27:38 PM
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What's there to argue about... In card games (for example, poker), experience and calculation over a "long distance" are more important than luck. There is only luck in roulette. And each round is as if there were no previous ones. A famous case in the Monte Carlo casino on August 18, 1913, black fell out 26 times in a row at one of the roulette tables. People lost a lot of money because they bet on red. Finding patterns in such games is an example of "gambler's fallacy". This is a well-known example of the independence of random events.
I think you are mistaken gambling to be something else like a skilled stuff. No matter how many years that you have gambled, your luck is what will bring your wins to you and not by what you know in the game and for how long you have being playing the game. Let's take a look of your example which is poker, if you professional poker players are gambling on the table, the card that they pick is what  determine who wins the game because they are both experienced. This is where luck supercedes experience or skills in gambling.

A gambler can only use experience and skill to win an amateur or a new gambler that does not understand much about the game. This is why the casino always win because you are playing with a bot.
That's exactly it, that's why I prefer poker to other gambling games. You can come out a winner there, but you can do it with hard and very long training. In addition to knowing excellent mathematics and pot odds, we must be able to control ourselves even when a beginner beats us several times in a hand and the whole table sees it. For professionals, this is the most painful because they came just to win the stack and chips from beginners. But a beginner can also get lucky and sometimes he wins professionals, it gives him great pleasure. If we take games in which it is almost impossible to win in the long run, then I prefer not to play them again. I still believe when a lot depends on me, and not just rely on luck.

This is probably one of the factors why beginners love poker so much. A person who literally accidentally entered a casino can actually win there.

And the downside of this is definitely the rage of an experienced player. After all, he took into account all the options and knows very well how small the chance was that he would be unlucky. But that's what happened. Therefore, in poker, as in any gambling, you need to control yourself.

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September 03, 2024, 02:34:00 PM
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What's there to argue about... In card games (for example, poker), experience and calculation over a "long distance" are more important than luck. There is only luck in roulette. And each round is as if there were no previous ones. A famous case in the Monte Carlo casino on August 18, 1913, black fell out 26 times in a row at one of the roulette tables. People lost a lot of money because they bet on red. Finding patterns in such games is an example of "gambler's fallacy". This is a well-known example of the independence of random events.
That's why there are no winners in algorithm-based games unless they quit the moment they win at an early stage of their gambling stories. Until now, I find it hard to believe that there are gamblers who won in slot or casino games who are still playing the same games until now. It's made for us to lose and not to win so we must carry that knowledge to easily accept the results of the game.
It's all luck-based games and it will depend if we went to a game at the right time getting that right moment when a winning spree will happen but we must also know that there's a limit to that. Afterward, a losing streak is undoubtedly going to happen and all we can do is escape it either with withdrawal or changing to skill-based games like poker or sports betting.

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September 03, 2024, 02:46:57 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.
In case of Blackjack when one plays against the system it depends entirely on luck but when played live the game sometimes depends on experience. I have been playing Blackjack for a long time so I think its win depends on luck as well as experience

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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.
We believe that gambling depends on luck but it applies to some specific games like slot lottery etc. However, experience plays a big role in winning some games, including Blackjack, Sports betting, Teen Patti, etc. Because in these cases, you can never win if you don't play with different strategies











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Agree, nothing is possible without experience. But there are many gamblers whose greed works in them even after winning the bet they do not cash out and try to get some more then they lose everything. They forget that gambling involves luck. The biggest thing is that they don't value experience and always rush to win which makes them destitute at once. Betting on contests involves evaluating a contestant's physical abilities and using other evaluative skills. In order to ensure a chance to play a major role in determining the outcome of such games, in some cases it is better to refrain from adding new bets.
Yes, it is normal in every gambling game that someone wants to get more profit than before. Yes, we have to be good at controlling ourselves. If the game is not profitable for us again, we should stop for a moment or play again later, this is much better. In comparison, if you keep playing and keep hoping for profits that never come, it is much better for you to appreciate the results of your hard work than to keep playing or be greedy to get more profits than before. From a contest perspective, I agree with you that we must be able to read our opponent's game and need patience in this case to beat our opponent so that our game cannot be read by our opponent.

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September 03, 2024, 03:37:43 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

At the end of the day it is all just luck.

It doesn't matter if you know that a dice has 1/6 chances of giving you a three, you still have to roll it and see what happens.

Someone might have no idea about it and bet on a three and get it while you might get the odds and know everything in detail and roll a 2.

Exactly what I think about gambling too. At the end of the day its simply just about luck. Sure , you had influence over your picks and you can try a lot of strategies and use statistics to score bets in your favor but all of them need luck to happen. Lately, I don't even know what to bet anymore and I'm just taking a break because most of the football games are pure lottery and besides UCL , Europa League and Dota TI ( which starts tomorrow ) none really deserve betting right now but this is just how I see gambling lately.

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September 03, 2024, 03:41:38 PM
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Agree, nothing is possible without experience. But there are many gamblers whose greed works in them even after winning the bet they do not cash out and try to get some more then they lose everything. They forget that gambling involves luck. The biggest thing is that they don't value experience and always rush to win which makes them destitute at once. Betting on contests involves evaluating a contestant's physical abilities and using other evaluative skills. In order to ensure a chance to play a major role in determining the outcome of such games, in some cases it is better to refrain from adding new bets.
Yes, it is normal in every gambling game that someone wants to get more profit than before. Yes, we have to be good at controlling ourselves. If the game is not profitable for us again, we should stop for a moment or play again later, this is much better. In comparison, if you keep playing and keep hoping for profits that never come, it is much better for you to appreciate the results of your hard work than to keep playing or be greedy to get more profits than before. From a contest perspective, I agree with you that we must be able to read our opponent's game and need patience in this case to beat our opponent so that our game cannot be read by our opponent.


True, everyone who enters the world of gambling wants to get more profit than they have with such hopes many people flock to the casino with the main goal of a big win, but we also can not guess or determine what results we will get in the future whether it is profit or loss and most of them must have experienced quite large financial losses.
I agree with you after we get good or bad experiences we must make it a valuable lesson by trying to control ourselves well so as not to cause quite large losses.

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September 03, 2024, 06:53:02 PM
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What's there to argue about... In card games (for example, poker), experience and calculation over a "long distance" are more important than luck. There is only luck in roulette. And each round is as if there were no previous ones. A famous case in the Monte Carlo casino on August 18, 1913, black fell out 26 times in a row at one of the roulette tables. People lost a lot of money because they bet on red. Finding patterns in such games is an example of "gambler's fallacy". This is a well-known example of the independence of random events.

It is always between the two which are luck or experience when gambling but knowing which one works well for which game can help you to be more successful than losing to the house. Depending on luck for a game that needs your experience would not give you victory but an almost syndrome that makes you to continue to gamble until you have exhausted all the money in your account and when you are not self disciplined, you have to do things that makes your gambling like an irresponsible individual that later gives you more losses if you can not stop yourself from gambling further. Gambling addiction comes from our gambling habits that build up over time. Using experience for games that depends on luck is also a mistake that will just keep you losing untill you realize yourself to stop gambling.

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You need to know how to deal with both your experienced and your luck, chances to win can happen if you manage to stop when you still have that chance and quit your way to enjoy your profits.
That is why it is so important to always use the money you are willing to lose, with that we avoid as many problems as necessary, plus another thing is not only that, but as soon as we have profits, it should be withdrawn, why? So that it does not become a temptation for us to continue playing and lose that money that is in the balance, sometimes we should also have an amount to withdraw, a minimum amount and make it effective, no matter how many times we have to withdraw, the important thing is to Maintain benefits.
Use the money you can afford to lose is the best advice for all gamblers, no matter if they have luck or experience. But we admitted that we need experience when playing gambling so we can choose the gambling game we want. With the luck that come to us, that will gives us a chance to win but we must know that luck will not always come when we gambling. We must know how to limit the money to gambling so we don't lose too much money. If you have experience in gambling, that will helps you to identify the current situation so you will know what you need to do. If you think that you don't have luck, you can stop gambling and leave the casino so that will prevent you from the lose.

Of course, it depends on your money. Gambling with the amount of money you can afford to lose is the advice of all gamblers. It must be admitted that gambling requires experience. Without experience, one can never progress.Experience is definitely needed to achieve success. In that case we can confirm that experience as well as luck in gambling depends a lot on a gambler, so if a person's luck is good then he will be successful in gambling. I have gambled many times but never won but lost so I think my luck is not good in gambling so I stopped myself from gambling and casino. Of course every gambler should lose if he gambles with experience and his luck is not with him then that person need not lose money but should retire from gambling.

one should never gamble something they can't afford to lose
that is the golden rule
you need experience to achieve success but is it better to try to achieve success in an endeavour where the odds are stacked against you and where you get nothing in return besides money if you win?

I don't know

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September 03, 2024, 09:42:31 PM
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What's there to argue about... In card games (for example, poker), experience and calculation over a "long distance" are more important than luck. There is only luck in roulette. And each round is as if there were no previous ones. A famous case in the Monte Carlo casino on August 18, 1913, black fell out 26 times in a row at one of the roulette tables. People lost a lot of money because they bet on red. Finding patterns in such games is an example of "gambler's fallacy". This is a well-known example of the independence of random events.

Well for me, I consider all gambling games to be luck, because no matter how experienced you claim to be, because you got lucky a few times and hit the jackpot, you'll still experience some loses. Luck is the best definition to the outcome of bets because we cannot always produce same results whenever we want, meaning we are not in full control of the games or the system, we only accept what the outcome is. People who thinks they are experienced enough to attract huge wins often make some mistakes of betting big which might lead to very disastrous loss that might begin  to fuel their irresponsible gambling habits.

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September 03, 2024, 09:48:04 PM
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Agree, nothing is possible without experience. But there are many gamblers whose greed works in them even after winning the bet they do not cash out and try to get some more then they lose everything. They forget that gambling involves luck. The biggest thing is that they don't value experience and always rush to win which makes them destitute at once. Betting on contests involves evaluating a contestant's physical abilities and using other evaluative skills. In order to ensure a chance to play a major role in determining the outcome of such games, in some cases it is better to refrain from adding new bets.
Yes, it is normal in every gambling game that someone wants to get more profit than before. Yes, we have to be good at controlling ourselves. If the game is not profitable for us again, we should stop for a moment or play again later, this is much better. In comparison, if you keep playing and keep hoping for profits that never come, it is much better for you to appreciate the results of your hard work than to keep playing or be greedy to get more profits than before. From a contest perspective, I agree with you that we must be able to read our opponent's game and need patience in this case to beat our opponent so that our game cannot be read by our opponent.


True, everyone who enters the world of gambling wants to get more profit than they have with such hopes many people flock to the casino with the main goal of a big win, but we also can not guess or determine what results we will get in the future whether it is profit or loss and most of them must have experienced quite large financial losses.
I agree with you after we get good or bad experiences we must make it a valuable lesson by trying to control ourselves well so as not to cause quite large losses.
that is the plan of everybody who is into gambling because any gambler what it has in mind to participate in gambling is to make profit from the gambling that is why you see that whenever they lose in gambling people became upset of losing in gambling so what I'm trying to say is that for you to involve yourself in gambling you should supposed to know that gambling have advantages and disadvantages so you may be opportune to make a profit in gambling and you may also fall evictim of losing or experience a huge loss in gambling so that is the thing sometimes it does not consider and the participate in gambling for me if I involve myself in gambling this weekend I know very well that I'm a profit in gambling and I may not profit based on I have already had the experience but someone who does not have the experience all the mindset will be that gambling is a better way of making a sharp money or a quick money

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