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August 08, 2024, 12:10:49 AM
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We have replied to everyone that was impacted.
Please PM us if your coin has been impacted.

@raghavsood, we saw you did some analysis. Could you please help us in figuring out exactly how many coins were impacted if you already have some data.

Please note that more than half of VIBGYOR coins were not loaded. (We will provide the exact number tomorrow).

Also, please note all impacted customers will be refunded and even provided loaded coins as replacement if you were impacted.

This is huge if they follow through. A replacement would be a nice way to make everyone whole. So I'm glad to see you're stepping up. I think the people forced to peel should get the replacement as well. If it was a key generation issue.
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August 08, 2024, 12:12:11 AM
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Note, some were swept by individual collectors in order to not lose the BTC (I am one of those, set 88- gilded & silver).  I'm thinking to better ascertain, you may want to see which addresses got the most BTC swept to them as this should point to the culprits.

Agreed, thanks to this post, I was able to redeem the following two coins myself, they were not swept:

silver: 46 - 19K4nwHtqdNB9rFQzMZH9r8wousPVEmBus,  0.0 BTC
silver: 47 - 13Dk5H9AJUE5DnPQHXTTuUcoBtvh4PRZ6C,  0.0 BTC

All, I can say is thanks to everyone for sharing this info, and thank to Team RC for being so transparent.
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August 08, 2024, 12:25:49 AM
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.001 was refunded by RC.  Appreciate the quick reply & refund.

As others have requested, we would like to know more about how this happened asap bc it seems like it’s a larger issue than just these coins.

   This is good to hear. This is exactly how a honest and morally sound coin maker should be. I still have faith now that this is not another coldkey theft.

    The only thing I would like to know like so many others is how the hell were these keys compromised?

     Were the keys accidentally exposed to a live Internet connected computer? And even if so...that computer had to have been infected as well for the keys to be discovered and swept.   

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August 08, 2024, 12:53:42 AM
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#49 silver .001 was redeemed by someone. Lost that one.... SMH
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August 08, 2024, 12:59:41 AM
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Question for RC after he's returned:
For the rest of us that have VIBGYOR coins that were unloaded, its clear that the keys for these would be compromised as well. If left out in the wild, this runs the risk of someone loading them in the future and having their funds swept.

It seems like part of the solution to this must be to replace the keys/holos on these coins too (in whatever method makes sense).
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August 08, 2024, 02:22:09 AM
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I want to know how the keys were generated and thus how they were compromised.

RC stated these coins keys were generated differently than the others - how so?

If you used an airgapped system, and did not save the keys, and you still have possession of that system, then how were they breached?

even without saving there are potential ways someone could have recovered them from the system but that would mean you lost control of it.


I am glad to see you making people whole but that does not make them whole - their coin will never be what it was worth.

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August 08, 2024, 02:30:50 AM
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I want to know how the keys were generated and thus how they were compromised.

RC stated these coins keys were generated differently than the others - how so?

If you used an airgapped system, and did not save the keys, and you still have possession of that system, then how were they breached?

even without saving there are potential ways someone could have recovered them from the system but that would mean you lost control of it.


I am glad to see you making people whole but that does not make them whole - their coin will never be what it was worth.

All good points.  I would hope RC would let us send the coins to someone like you to be re-holo’d & re-key’d as buyer funded.

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August 08, 2024, 02:59:38 AM
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I want to know how the keys were generated and thus how they were compromised.

RC stated these coins keys were generated differently than the others - how so?

If you used an airgapped system, and did not save the keys, and you still have possession of that system, then how were they breached?

even without saving there are potential ways someone could have recovered them from the system but that would mean you lost control of it.


I am glad to see you making people whole but that does not make them whole - their coin will never be what it was worth.

All good points.  I would hope RC would let us send the coins to someone like you to be re-holo’d & re-key’d as buyer funded.

always willing to assist.

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August 08, 2024, 03:24:04 AM
Last edit: August 08, 2024, 03:49:02 AM by raghavsood
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Wow.....was going to bid on a few items on Stacks....Not anymore.... Sad Sad Sad

speaking about Stacks - someone might want to tell them so they can pull those auctions.

I have dropped James and the info contact an email listing out the potentially affected on-going auctions, and linking to this thread.

I will update here if they reply.

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I have heard back from James at S&B - All raritycheck items will be pulled from the upcoming/ongoing auction, they should be delisted from the site within the next 24 hours.

We have replied to everyone that was impacted.
Please PM us if your coin has been impacted.

@raghavsood, we saw you did some analysis. Could you please help us in figuring out exactly how many coins were impacted if you already have some data.

Please note that more than half of VIBGYOR coins were not loaded. (We will provide the exact number tomorrow).

Also, please note all impacted customers will be refunded and even provided loaded coins as replacement if you were impacted.

I will follow up with more details today on what's going on with the funds flows, but for immediate action, here's all coins from RC sets that were peeled in a batch (more than 3 coins in the same block) (using godmode):

(view query at https://pastebin.com/XYvuN0eW - Cloudflare doesn't let me post it to the forum)

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series_name	addresses	serial	total_value	balance	first_active	redeemed_on
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1JW8JVnveNdD6ULGaM9W56KVkgs99hHwBJ"] 1 1000000 0 2023-04-11 02:16:23+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1AMPtQJ3ajQBjZ1JdrtnhBukFgq7MW8749"] 11 1000000 0 2022-10-13 20:49:13+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1FrE3MbzxYMpLjh14Efv4ikoirbCpdodYZ"] 12 1000000 0 2022-10-03 01:09:14+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1K28LHHtwj7ftqDVguUSbpcj9B9uWTGEXp"] 13 1000000 0 2022-11-09 00:25:03+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["12FbeUEckoJpG2xGnjU7pWT5ZjFkYDFoEs"] 14 1000000 0 2023-01-04 17:54:28+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1AK1JdkEdFZ7HfJPzF3QHXsc3ziCT2m6ks"] 15 1000000 0 2022-10-13 01:02:55+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["17wfj6ef9zieHXLcPBWPhE2KNKuTcet2NR"] 17 1000000 0 2023-02-16 21:29:42+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["16qNy5zoCMES2H35RNnMgxtYBTu2kM96zg"] 20 1000000 0 2022-10-04 23:25:00+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1AaASgch97pEfAhrVPwYF551p227yHRMoV"] 21 1000000 0 2022-10-03 01:09:14+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["17TPPcp9sruSGHGN9BxkppzfUNjcAT2AVo"] 22 1000000 0 2022-10-04 23:25:00+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1CHkivLgVVJGJ5yLW6iuBpP6QE3Mhh6PCB"] 23 1000000 0 2022-12-17 22:36:45+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1JNXJvowXpeGWeFxpj82nFnEGxyTNwuvYp"] 24 1000000 0 2022-12-17 22:36:45+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1E2meDtAdUE2HaoW56eWKiLipN5MnFK3tX"] 25 1000000 0 2022-12-17 22:36:45+00:00 2024-08-06 20:48:48+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["16AYovMaG8Z5m7wPbra37g7aSNvewruqTM"] 1 100000 0 2023-02-23 00:22:26+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["17rdnQEMe1fj7WX8jPnPrRkTYBYnRQYmg7"] 11 100000 0 2022-10-13 20:49:13+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["17NT1UBq3ukXU36C3gRxKNQoyULYpDu1SB"] 13 100000 0 2022-11-09 00:25:03+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1CFjkGmBYDfTw4Sc6GLwx4JeGeewQAjyty"] 14 100000 0 2023-01-04 20:30:34+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1JN2ACsBX5SY2nR9iuLK2t15iH78RjegMz"] 15 100000 0 2022-10-13 01:02:55+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["16apMP5bFaeCDi92kkNvcQyVK2i7zkBurX"] 17 100000 0 2023-02-16 21:24:41+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["15YcgrqdmxFLSm6A7Heb8NrF5d7aqR6TpY"] 23 100000 0 2022-12-17 22:36:45+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["178aPRpSSwGaHzhsZuJmP1apeL2MkLRQA5"] 24 100000 0 2022-12-17 22:36:45+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1F8AdhbZog8SF9zY2AskuZdXsDcu5izhAR"] 25 100000 0 2022-12-17 22:36:45+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["13LrZUGByDw2TYWfSheWWs3TmNmUMPjQ1U"] 41 100000 0 2022-10-03 01:20:46+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1AHWfp8arx4LiE9gTMopUUYDTFwiuXtJni"] 43 100000 0 2022-10-03 01:12:25+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["12ny8S4VV48unuwW5j7KqR4QJ49BeootGw"] 44 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1J9UXA3sRJUsbXCw8orzKDV1NX61dGz98a"] 48 100000 0 2022-10-03 01:12:25+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1Pu8h3GNhvj1U3CCRHS5RUDdGwEQUvVKup"] 49 100000 0 2022-10-10 21:32:01+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1KsnuQgwGx59ew6t4i2g46RiXWVSiRbHH5"] 50 100000 0 2022-10-04 23:30:40+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["19n26FdG643UecNCUBGrHBUo2pPtdXeB6c"] 51 100000 0 2022-10-04 23:30:40+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1EMdpch11o4GZghVepKPHnoZdmNnrs2G2y"] 55 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1HbbBT5LwSvKfgvpYVRoY1N21Sqxs7xrJB"] 66 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1Gzy8857V8YeTG52pgSKzCMmG4gVKpC4PG"] 69 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1EJTpCLRNjbgpETCmbBni13sS3HVj3X9pS"] 77 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1DToU1jPJsdwhJLaJVexjA9tYjHyHvkfje"] 99 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["15sJ8isF68bm6DGRKAKbkCGA6updmis8bb"] 100 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["12RXhF22Anvw7GFrQibN7CpQerAu1VBQ9R"] 101 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["172BbL1ds6EJfekkS2E9sVsk6qFdvE7PXo"] 111 100000 0 2022-10-08 10:27:54+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["15mDRLpCWj4vaJZw5ia8RxmEw18HoZvPxm"] 123 100000 0 2022-10-12 08:07:32+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["12cNnpgHZp7YDL286rn7XMMtpqieiQgw2b"] 139 100000 0 2022-10-03 01:09:14+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1PYbtcRMdya2MBWQwCYf6kbtXuwkLfZM4C"] 140 100000 0 2022-10-04 23:25:00+00:00 2024-08-07 22:41:52+00:00

raritycheck team: It is imperative that you share how the keys for the VIBGYOR series were generated in as much detail as possible - software used, people involved, computer used, printer used, and everything else that is available. This does appear to be a more widespread attack and funds for many others people outside of collectibles may be at risk.

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August 08, 2024, 03:46:04 AM
Last edit: August 08, 2024, 03:59:22 AM by raghavsood
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Given that impacted coins total 15700000 sats (0.157BTC), which is not a small amount these days, I would encourage the raritycheck team to set up a compensation fund held by a reputable escrow (less any refunds already complete).

At this stage, we don't know why and how the keys are compromised, and having the compensation fund held by a non-rc team member will go a long way in rebuilding trust.

I would also not assume other series are safe until we have more details from the raritycheck team on the key generation process, and what changed when handling VIBGYOR keys.

Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded still holds 0.044BTC
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver still holds 0.016BTC

The still-intact items are:

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series_name	addresses	serial	total_value	balance	first_active	redeemed_on
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["18TjrYAfdZUTAYooK9ZeCZszw6yLGCTK3X"] 9 1000000 1000000 2023-09-11 18:10:45+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1HYf3FfmA96qNj2Rwaz5nr3r7JvMDQTANt"] 10 1000000 1000000 2023-09-11 21:22:28+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1JTSLBvp3gNn1eDy3boJWkdy25yf6ePBNG"] 16 100000 100000 2023-07-10 21:58:58+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["19uFA9DAVc9FS32Z4V5rxkJGfjKT1GiWjG"] 18 100000 100000 2023-07-10 21:58:58+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["13iHy4ok4Nvg6o9YmQgWj9VRCUzWWHR6gi"] 19 100000 100000 2023-07-10 21:58:58+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1PRBhRKzadcfnKpsRRDUueQxjVx5NDN8Zb"] 33 100000 100000 2023-07-10 21:58:58+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1JhPQSUL4rMcrEkDHssDiJrJXwHKbjDkRe"] 81 1000000 1000000 2023-07-10 21:58:58+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Gilded ["1KxfmW4ou58eMB2sVhBGitAtQ1ymvYyMjP"] 100 1000000 1000000 2023-11-18 19:23:06+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1389mXsW4K1WCni9JiNrKtxpeTM89EsWB1"] 9 100000 100000 2023-09-11 18:10:45+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["14gydWP6qzEw55f6cosEL87pFMHYP4mGii"] 10 100000 100000 2023-09-11 18:10:45+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1DLVHQkfH4uXj64xYGFkg5vbhMY9ACDeE2"] 12 100000 100000 2023-04-11 01:59:59+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1MM8r17VJiMtvNntD94y3kxYPg59gmoLWG"] 16 100000 100000 2023-09-24 12:23:11+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1KdYZ1fe7vnXfvJALgtg7xm9w4PWBvDXQv"] 18 100000 100000 2023-07-11 10:06:37+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1AvC9kwVxTTqGsF2L6Vi83SpP8d7raJ5G5"] 19 100000 100000 2023-07-11 10:06:37+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1DyfLv6G4CfyGFFwsNpcHyLCwcsKazCmqf"] 30 100000 100000 2023-08-04 06:48:03+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1CRoPhjV2euox76mTuVDqPFQwJxqF5ijJd"] 33 100000 100000 2023-07-11 10:06:37+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["15AUQbEU6qoyc5YoPT9emHwjs1qKA7VN9Y"] 40 100000 100000 2023-08-04 06:48:03+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1KYhVzgDwK4uZQYK9qKpGSx6S9n5fKi4Le"] 60 100000 100000 2023-08-04 06:48:03+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1E7WkJWbEHK7Fo9m1yYhjVgwcqnEQsD1f9"] 80 100000 100000 2023-08-04 06:48:03+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1Hn4nF5KcPbKBbwibiXeMYGo3mwLrZtLLk"] 81 100000 100000 2023-07-11 10:06:37+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1Pi2NzYP9EMM4aCSxjUquz9b34pw7QYrZn"] 82 100000 100000 2023-08-21 20:15:49+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1LKsfdB3jFJKPWCZ5CgYCi46hwWLEDXBzm"] 84 100000 100000 2024-02-14 20:19:50+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1CbyeEoRPb8wDozJTzxhKu3HNMJdBrCZYp"] 90 100000 100000 2023-08-04 06:48:03+00:00 null
Rarity Check VIBGYOR Orange Set Silver ["1PFD6GCscWGJtk4KkJ11Q8Td1n1quEaMLw"] 98 100000 100000 2024-03-12 23:53:13+00:00 null

If you hold any of these items, or are aware of someone who does and can reach out to them, I strongly suggest peeling and redeeming them before they get swept.

I have reached out to the S&B team regarding the 4 loaded items sold through their auctions to see if they can contact the winner.

We already saw another batch clearing the 0.001 BTC silver coins a few hours ago, so the threat is still ongoing.

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August 08, 2024, 04:11:52 AM
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It appears that VIBGYOR coins are still being offered for sale by the raritycheck team on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115653939905. This listing should be pulled by the team with haste, even if the coins being offered are unloaded.

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Has had no ingress transactions since this morning.

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We have replied to everyone that was impacted.
Please PM us if your coin has been impacted.

@raghavsood, we saw you did some analysis. Could you please help us in figuring out exactly how many coins were impacted if you already have some data.

Please note that more than half of VIBGYOR coins were not loaded. (We will provide the exact number tomorrow).

Also, please note all impacted customers will be refunded and even provided loaded coins as replacement if you were impacted.

This is huge if they follow through. A replacement would be a nice way to make everyone whole. So I'm glad to see you're stepping up. I think the people forced to peel should get the replacement as well. If it was a key generation issue.

 Glad that the community is rallying to solve.  That’s pretty cool in itself and look forward to speedy resolution.
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We have replied to everyone that was impacted.
Please PM us if your coin has been impacted.

@raghavsood, we saw you did some analysis. Could you please help us in figuring out exactly how many coins were impacted if you already have some data.

Please note that more than half of VIBGYOR coins were not loaded. (We will provide the exact number tomorrow).

Also, please note all impacted customers will be refunded and even provided loaded coins as replacement if you were impacted.

This is huge if they follow through. A replacement would be a nice way to make everyone whole. So I'm glad to see you're stepping up. I think the people forced to peel should get the replacement as well. If it was a key generation issue.

Let’s not bury the guy.  He’s not Walmart and probably eking out very little. I think it’s commendable that he’s stepping up to the plate as is.  The coin itself is one Oz silver , international shipping , etc.  it would quickly add up.  Hoping he can work with a trusted member in the US like MJ or Mopar to handle the processing here.  It would definitely save on costs to make whole.  That said, I understand your point too.  Glad that the community is rallying to solve.  That’s pretty cool in itself.




Lol he's the one that brought it up and I was just saying that's pretty cool. A creator should stand behind the keys they created and if the  keys created by them are swept due to faulty key generation, then they should be on the hook like Walmart if they ever want to have a reputation or ever be trusted again. It definitely wasn't a dig, I was commending that he is in here trying to make it right. But at the same time. I'm salty because my funds were swept and coins premium is gone. So I would like a replacement if possible down the road. But let's start with a refund. Lol
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August 08, 2024, 05:43:17 AM
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Hello all

Good morning.
Our inbox has lots of messages. We will reply all one by one.

We have already refunded many of guys directly.
Please note that all impacted coins will be made whole.
Either we will offer a loaded coin (with newly created keys)or we will reload your coins (depending on volume we will order holos). In some cases we are sending you BTC
We will preserve the history on our site so impacted coins always show up.


WE ARE STILL ROOT CAUSING THE ISSue. So far we are certain thi isn’t hardware leak.

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WE ARE STILL ROOT CAUSING THE ISSue. So far we are certain thi isn’t hardware leak.

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if it is not a hardware leak - then it someone on your team, or no?

how many are on your team?
how many have access to key generation?

and how do you have private keys stored after the coins were made?? No keys should ever be saved.

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WE ARE STILL ROOT CAUSING THE ISSue. So far we are certain thi isn’t hardware leak.

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if it is not a hardware leak - then it someone on your team, or no?

how many are on your team?
how many have access to key generation?

and how do you have private keys stored after the coins were made?? No keys should ever be saved.

We have NO keys backup.
If we had we could save the remaining coins by sweeping their BTC.
But unfortunately we have no backups.

So far we have identified the isssue is neither a hardware issue nor a team member isssue.
Looks like the issue is with the way private keys were generated.

We will do this

1. Create a separate thread for refund
2. Use this thread for root causing

Meanwhile we will order holos for VIBGYOR coins.
Holos will be slightly different so it’s easy to tell these are new.
Each buyer will be given the option to re-holo (and reload) or we ll send BTC.

We continue to refund Btc for impacted people.

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I would hope that the eBay sale page is also being pulled: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115653939905

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raritycheck team: It is imperative that you share how the keys for the VIBGYOR series were generated in as much detail as possible - software used, people involved, computer used, printer used, and everything else that is available. This does appear to be a more widespread attack and funds for many others people outside of collectibles may be at risk.

I strongly encourage the team to share details with folks who have the background and skills to help get to the bottom of this.

The refunds and efforts to make people whole are commendable and important, but based on the on-chain activity there are more wallets at risk than just collectibles.

I'm volunteering my time and effort in helping to track this down, but it is extremely important that the RC team provides the information and background for the key generation process, and how it differs from that of their other series.

I have separately dropped them a PM to ask for the same information, in the event that (for whatever reason) they are unwilling to share it publicly at this stage.

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Looks like the issue is with the way private keys were generated.


you use an airgapped system correct? if you are using a system that is online, then all your coins are at risk and you need to cease selling any coins and recall all of them - I hope it is not this serious and I am not sure if it was, that you would say so.

Considering your statements on how your keys are generated when previously asked:


Following all the suggestions, we are buying a one time only Printer for printing keys (wired) and one time use-only computer for creating keys.

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so if it is a one use system, was it online? did you lose control of it?

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I strongly encourage the team to share details with folks who have the background and skills to help get to the bottom of this.

The refunds and efforts to make people whole are commendable and important, but based on the on-chain activity there are more wallets at risk than just collectibles.

I'm volunteering my time and effort in helping to track this down, but it is extremely important that the RC team provides the information and background for the key generation process, and how it differs from that of their other series.

I have separately dropped them a PM to ask for the same information, in the event that (for whatever reason) they are unwilling to share it publicly at this stage.
Hi raghav

We will not pull the eBay listing.
If someone orders we will send them coins with new holos and new keys.

We understand that not just other coins but our wallets are impacted but even we are trying to root cause it.
We are not 100% sure how this has happened.
But we think the key gen software we used is compromised.
Rest ensured as soon as we know we will provide details.


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