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August 12, 2024, 06:02:54 AM
Last edit: August 29, 2024, 05:20:57 AM by AussieMat
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Hello,
It’s been a while I claimed to have discovered a new way for implementing provably fair system, that is both easier for the player to understand and to verify. I believe my system solves big problems, the biggest one being the doubt a high rollers can have about being cheated, especially for their biggest bets.

The initial discussion is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464581.msg62748057#msg62748057

Now, I am deciding I am paying the casino who is interested 5000 dollars (upfront) for the time that it could spend to draft our agreement. Afterwards, the casino gets a free look at my system, and then either decides to implement it, in which case our agreement should be executed, either they decide not, and nothing binds them further.

My wallet, that has  0  2503 USDT now, will receive 2503 2501 USDT at most in 2 days so by wednesday 21st of August: https://etherscan.io/address/0x2fbfb67dcb312faaf94788891a4c1a545dc5cf5b#tokentxns

No contract is required to pay that 5000 dollars, I’ll just keep it on trust. No strings attached. Although, before doing so, I’d like to only exchange a few words about what type of agreement we should have beforehand, because it wouldn’t be possible for me to send 5000 USD to everyone, and discover later that they wouldn’t give me a penny for using my system.

That’s it, don’t hesitate to contact me by pm or post here for any questions. Have a nice week.

Edit 24/08/24:
I am moving from USDT to PAXG, better to have them in ounces of gold, the usd is losing value fast. The wallet has 0 now but will receive 2 PAXG (= 2 ounces) by tomorrow or at most on Monday august 26.

Edit 29/08/24: My coins got stuck at phemex trying to buy PaxG, but they’ll pay back the money to my wallet within 15 working days. For the time being also, exploring the possibility of patent, so I am suspending this campaign. If I come back, I’ll be adding more money, for the current offer I only received one uninteresting suggestion
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August 12, 2024, 06:25:21 AM
 #2

Ordinarily, this is perhaps, a very good offer, but then, I don't own or run any casino, so, I have no idea how the owners or those who manage big casinos will view this offer, but all the same, I am wishing you good luck on this.

And I did like to point out that aside posting this here, I think it's also very important that get the official business emails of the casinos you have in mind, and forward this offer to them, because not every managers of casinos (specially the really big ones) have the time to read through this forum, specially discussions on this board.
So, I feel sending email with this offer may turn out more productive for you than just having it posted as a thread here.

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August 12, 2024, 08:29:21 AM
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Hello,

It’s been a while I claimed to have discovered a new way for implementing provably fair system, that is both easier for the player to understand and to verify. I believe my system solves big problems, the biggest one being the doubt a high rollers can have about being cheated, especially for their biggest bets.

The initial discussion is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464581.msg62748057#msg62748057

Now, I am deciding I am paying the casino who is interested 2500 dollars (upfront) for the time that it could spend to draft our agreement. Afterwards, the casino gets a free look at my system, and then either decides to implement it, in which case our agreement should be executed, either they decide not, and nothing binds them further.

My wallet, that has 0 USDT now, will receive 2503 USDT at most by tomorrow: https://etherscan.io/address/0x2fbfb67dcb312faaf94788891a4c1a545dc5cf5b#tokentxns

No contract is required to pay that 2500 dollars, I’ll just keep it on trust. No strings attached. Although, before doing so, I’d like to only exchange a few words about what type of agreement we should have beforehand, because it wouldn’t be possible for me to send 2500 USD to everyone, and discover later that they wouldn’t give me a penny for using my system.

That’s it, don’t hesitate to contact me by pm or post here for any questions. Have a nice week.
Do these games or game support Telegram platform, I mean can these be integrated to Telegram platform? Let me know. I may check with one of my client to know what they think. I have a few other contacts which I can try too. Feel free to reach me on my Telegram, we can communicate there faster.


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August 12, 2024, 10:54:23 AM
Last edit: August 12, 2024, 02:52:10 PM by AussieMat
 #4

Hello,

It’s been a while I claimed to have discovered a new way for implementing provably fair system, that is both easier for the player to understand and to verify. I believe my system solves big problems, the biggest one being the doubt a high rollers can have about being cheated, especially for their biggest bets.

The initial discussion is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464581.msg62748057#msg62748057

Now, I am deciding I am paying the casino who is interested 2500 dollars (upfront) for the time that it could spend to draft our agreement. Afterwards, the casino gets a free look at my system, and then either decides to implement it, in which case our agreement should be executed, either they decide not, and nothing binds them further.

My wallet, that has 0 USDT now, will receive 2503 USDT at most by tomorrow: https://etherscan.io/address/0x2fbfb67dcb312faaf94788891a4c1a545dc5cf5b#tokentxns

No contract is required to pay that 2500 dollars, I’ll just keep it on trust. No strings attached. Although, before doing so, I’d like to only exchange a few words about what type of agreement we should have beforehand, because it wouldn’t be possible for me to send 2500 USD to everyone, and discover later that they wouldn’t give me a penny for using my system.

That’s it, don’t hesitate to contact me by pm or post here for any questions. Have a nice week.
Do these games or game support Telegram platform, I mean can these be integrated to Telegram platform? Let me know. I may check with one of my client to know what they think. I have a few other contacts which I can try too. Feel free to reach me on my Telegram, we can communicate there faster.



Yes, my system is so simple it can be provably fair by exchanging some messages.

Please PM your telegram (checked your profile and couldn’t find it)
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August 12, 2024, 02:09:18 PM
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As a casino developer, i could review your provably fair engine if you agree with that.

What you are offering is something that casinos already have solved, if the site has a seed, and the user has a seed, then the game is provable fair, if you want the user to be able to use the same house and user seed, then add a secret seed, and a nonce. Simple as that.

If you want to talk with someone about your PF engine, I'm open to it.
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August 12, 2024, 02:25:55 PM
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What’s the difference of your probably fair system to the current version which casino is currently using? Even the demand on the probably fair games is not that high since slot games, live games and sportsbook are dominating the casino in terms of popularity which doesn’t have any probably fair system on the game.

I doubt casino will partner with on checking your system but rather you can try the service of knowledgeable user on probably fair system to check it for you.



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August 12, 2024, 03:07:40 PM
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Ordinarily, this is perhaps, a very good offer, but then, I don't own or run any casino, so, I have no idea how the owners or those who manage big casinos will view this offer, but all the same, I am wishing you good luck on this.

And I did like to point out that aside posting this here, I think it's also very important that get the official business emails of the casinos you have in mind, and forward this offer to them, because not every managers of casinos (specially the really big ones) have the time to read through this forum, specially discussions on this board.
So, I feel sending email with this offer may turn out more productive for you than just having it posted as a thread here.
it would have been better if the Op dropped the contact information for the interested parties to contact him and I think the easiest way to contact someone here is the telegram social media. And it is good for him to publish is here. And as seoincorporation said, interested people will also like to test the probably fair system before signing the agreement with him. So he has to work on the Op small again for easy access and communication.

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August 12, 2024, 03:57:23 PM
Last edit: August 12, 2024, 06:14:34 PM by AmoreJaz
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What’s the difference of your probably fair system to the current version which casino is currently using? Even the demand on the probably fair games is not that high since slot games, live games and sportsbook are dominating the casino in terms of popularity which doesn’t have any probably fair system on the game.

I doubt casino will partner with on checking your system but rather you can try the service of knowledgeable user on probably fair system to check it for you.

I am also wondering where will the difference be? So let us see how this will pan out and see if there will be someone interested on his offer. Otherwise, if there will be no one who will challenge his offer, it means, they are already contented about their provably fair system.

Also, the OP can always get in touch with their local online gambling site as it would be easier to pitch his system. Because here, owners may not be interested anymore because they are pretty much contented with what they have and they have their system in place already.

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August 12, 2024, 04:14:58 PM
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What’s the difference of your probably fair system to the current version which casino is currently using? Even the demand on the probably fair games is not that high since slot games, live games and sportsbook are dominating the casino in terms of popularity which doesn’t have any probably fair system on the game.

I doubt casino will partner with on checking your system but rather you can try the service of knowledgeable user on probably fair system to check it for you.

I am also wondering where will the difference be? So let us see how this will pan out and see if there will be someone interested on his offer. Otherwise, if there will be no one who will challenge his offer, it means, they are already contented about their provably fair system.
Rose already made an attempt offer for the guy probably fair system, I am sure if it anything different from what we have been used to then they may have a good start to new thing from there, I am sure Rose will update the forum if there be progress or whatever becomes of they discussions, anyways we are always on the lookout for new innovations that will help increase the potential of the gambling market, now that telegram casinos and their cryptocurrency casino are making wave in the market.

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August 13, 2024, 09:54:41 AM
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Yes, my system is so simple it can be provably fair by exchanging some messages.
I talked to the contact person I have for Playgram and this was a part of his response.

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Hi, thanks for bringing it tou my attention. I believe it's probably not something our team would be interested to check. ~snip~
As the reason he told that it could have a security threat in their system. I don't understand the technical but I am sure the team checked every possibilities before replying my message.

I will try to contact with some other contacts I have. If I have anything to share then I will post here.

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August 13, 2024, 12:15:31 PM
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Yes, my system is so simple it can be provably fair by exchanging some messages.
I talked to the contact person I have for Playgram and this was a part of his response.

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Hi, thanks for bringing it tou my attention. I believe it's probably not something our team would be interested to check. ~snip~
As the reason he told that it could have a security threat in their system. I don't understand the technical but I am sure the team checked every possibilities before replying my message.

I will try to contact with some other contacts I have. If I have anything to share then I will post here.

Thank you. You also have my telegram as well (I sent you a message). The funny part is that I think they probably don’t believe me. But no problem, from my side I’ll do my best, and even if I got a deal and at the end the casino wasn’t interested, I think it will be worth the 2500 usd, at least I’ll make peace with this (but unlikely to happen).

Try though to contact big casinos, more likely that I’ll be accepting their offer, but I’m open to any suggestions anyway.
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August 13, 2024, 02:32:32 PM
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Have you evaluated other idea in order to share and check your new system?
Likewise... why not publish on a repository your idea so peers can made their review?
Or better, why not try to cover this idea with such kinds of legal notice, or trying someway to "create a product" that can be sold in some way (or at least give you the chance to earn some revenue?)
I don't think an executive could be impressed by 2500 USD ...it's a trivial amount and people that make decisions are earning x100 yearly...
 I will evaluate other chances at this point.

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August 13, 2024, 02:49:45 PM
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I am deciding I am paying the casino who is interested 2500 dollars (upfront) for the time that it could spend to draft our agreement.

Whats the benefit of having them review it, hoping they will change their entire system in the casino (not likely), when you could just launch it and see if gamblers see it as a better option than what is currently in the market?

it wouldn’t be possible for me to send 2500 USD to everyone, and discover later that they wouldn’t give me a penny for using my system.

Why not launch a free game on a cheap domain and let gamblers see it? Rather than trying to get intros to casinos, then hoping they don't just take your money and say "no thanks" (they will)



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If I am being honest with you, I am lost at this point when it comes to your real purpose of doing this because I do not see the provable point you are actually proving constructively. It's about a year ago that you created the precious topic and again, almost a year later, you created another one. Why not lump the two together to continue to show dedication to the quest you are looking for or prove even if the latter requires money?

Besides, I've read so much about this provably fair of a thing to admit that it's better we go for the reputable casinos and shun too much exposè. No casino can earn 100% trust in their system or any programs advertised.

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August 14, 2024, 06:29:00 AM
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Why don't you build an online crypto casino with that 2500 USD and implement your genius "new probably fair system" there.
You might get a competitive edge over all the other casinos and maybe soon you will dominate the crypto gambling business. Grin
I don't see the point of giving 2500 USD to a casino owner for simply reviewing or testing your probably fair system. You might get scammed.
Or maybe your post is simply a joke and you won't be giving away 2500 USD for nothing. You are obviously a smart person, just use your brain and you will come to the right conclusion. Grin

 
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August 14, 2024, 06:46:04 AM
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Or maybe your post is simply a joke and you won't be giving away 2500 USD for nothing. You are obviously a smart person, just use your brain and you will come to the right conclusion. Grin
It looks like the address posted at OP has the $2500 balance so it does not look like a joke to me. May be the OP genuinely needs a casino to help him.

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August 15, 2024, 09:55:14 AM
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Or maybe your post is simply a joke and you won't be giving away 2500 USD for nothing. You are obviously a smart person, just use your brain and you will come to the right conclusion. Grin
It looks like the address posted at OP has the $2500 balance so it does not look like a joke to me. May be the OP genuinely needs a casino to help him.

Yes I posted here before transferring the money to prove the wallet is mine. Most posts here though are useless I just ignore them.
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August 15, 2024, 11:59:01 AM
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Most big casinos already have a system that is working with no complaints even from high rollers. I do not know what will be different in your offer which I think seems interesting. What you should be looking at is partnering with people that can fund a casino project so we can see what you have that is different from what we have in the market at present. Since you can already commit $2500 to your system, that can convince investors to take you seriously. I know you would have thought about this and would have taken your decision before coming here.











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August 15, 2024, 04:31:59 PM
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I am paying 2500 USD for a big casino executive to see my provably fair system

Hmm Im still didn't understand bro so basically you pay casino executive 2500 USD to look your system, So you have your own site or what? If so why you pay the executive for that, I mean the system of gambling should be a secret recipe right for the casino. Why if the other casino look to your system and said that makes your system looks ugly.

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August 15, 2024, 04:46:18 PM
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I am paying 2500 USD for a big casino executive to see my provably fair system

Hmm Im still didn't understand bro so basically you pay casino executive 2500 USD to look your system, So you have your own site or what? If so why you pay the executive for that, I mean the system of gambling should be a secret recipe right for the casino. Why if the other casino look to your system and said that makes your system looks ugly.

I think that, in the best case, it is a way to raise the attention of big casinos because he is convinced about the value of his system but is finding it difficult knocking at the correct door. In the worst case, after reading the concerns quoted above in another post, in the worst case, it could lead to vulnerabilities which are worth the disbursement of 2,5k USD.

That said, and with all possible caution, although he is not (afaik) a big casino executive I vouch for seoincorporation as an experienced member who knows how casinos work and can therefore help.

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