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August 25, 2024, 09:48:02 AM
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Trading is not the same as investing. Rather you must keep in mind that trading is very risky and if you do not have proper knowledge about this subject then there is a high probability that you will lose through it. So when trading next you must research about this or the coin you are going to trade and take advice from people who have already traded then you can trade. Now if one starts trading with loan and if he has no past experience about trading then he is most likely to get hurt. So mindlessly trading with only profit in mind will only hurt you financially as you will not be able to profit wrongly. So you must do your due diligence before trading.
Right. Never ever take a loan at the start of trading because if you lose your money at the start of your journey, you will be frustrated and quit trading. I think for initial trading capital, you must have other sources of income. You have some skills that can give side money and invest only that money in trading that you can afford to lose. If someone takes a loan of four to five thousand dollars to start trading and unfortunately, if you lose the capital, your interest and confidence in trading will be lost. So start with low capital, it's for practicing trading and understanding the Schoology of trading, but it's also necessary to ready your big capital for future investment. My recommendation is don't take any loans and trade until and unless you are good at trading.




Not only for trading, even for long term investment, borrowing money is a bad idea because this market is very risky and full of scams. Borrowing money to get involved in crypto only adds pressure to our lives, it will never yield as good results as we think. Trading or investing, we should only use money we can afford to lose and say no to borrowing.

Even for good traders, being a good trader means you have more chances of winning than others, but that does not guarantee that you will always make a profit when trading. No expert or good trader would dare to claim this so don't borrow money just because you think you are good enough.

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August 25, 2024, 04:16:26 PM
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Good day everyone on this beautiful forum.
We all know how trading can be for everyone , everyone is there to make profits (money) , but the fact some people can go to length in using all they've ever had to trade is mesmerizing!.
Some even go as far as getting loans , borrowing from friends so they could trade, or invest in some altcoins..
The same apply to other things like sports betting, gambling and all of them.

I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
He then went on to use this money to trade , now psychologically he was just not ready for it because his whole mindset was just about making a huge amount of money that he ended up loosing everything.
So my advice to people who hurrily invest and use all the have is that the market is never running away.
Do not stake your all! Be patient follow guidelines, learn how to trade safely , thank you!

If he would have taken that loan for a long term investment, which is still considered a safer option, yet I would have adivsed not to do it because we should only be investing what we can afford.
Taking loans has always been considered a bad option and on top of that he took it for trading.
Trading isn't generally bad but not everyone is so good to make money out of trading.
Hence it should only be done when we have a good capital with us and otherwise we shouldn't consider that option.

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August 25, 2024, 04:32:00 PM
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Yep, the story is a bit torn out in some bits, but risks that are at stake should always be taken into account, both by newbies and experienced people alike.
In any case, everyone must do it based on their own abilities, whether through investment or trading because when we do any job based on our own abilities, of course there will always be considerations and calculations regarding the risks and potential that we can get in that job. So nothing is disjointed because in any case there must always be considerations based on our own knowledge and abilities so that we do not face silly mistakes that arise from our own decisions.
Yeah true, every person has their own version of this and there is nothing wrong with having this kind of return, as long as you trust yourself to do something correctly, then do that and you are going to make some good return without a doubt.

However, this doesn't mean that we are going to make some good return every single time, it just means that we know what we are against and we know what we are capable of and that means we will just keep on holding that for as long as possible.

If you try to do something that you are not very good at, like lets say you want to try your hand at leverage but never did good there, then you are taking useless risk that will make you lose money, but if you are good at bitcoin paired trades on spot trading at some exchange, then you do that and you get good results. Everyone has their kind of investment and trading, and everyone should stick to those if they are getting good results, remember, even yearly 30% is a huge HUGE return on long term.

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August 25, 2024, 05:34:30 PM
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Not only for trading, even for long term investment, borrowing money is a bad idea because this market is very risky and full of scams. Borrowing money to get involved in crypto only adds pressure to our lives, it will never yield as good results as we think. Trading or investing, we should only use money we can afford to lose and say no to borrowing.
I don't completely agree with your assumption. Loans made for long-term investments are not always bad, especially if you have expertise in this investment field. You never borrow directly without considering your ability to invest, along with the best time and opportunities available. If you borrow $10k from a bank that you can probably pay off in 12 to 18 months from your salary, then your long-term investment in bitcoin could be worth more than that.

In fact, I can truly say that today's successful businessmen were initially capitalized by borrowed money. So I wouldn't say loans are bad, but you just need to consider the consequences and how you will repay the loan. After all, investing in bitcoin is not a scam, unless you blindly invest in all the new altcoins that so far have no value in the market. Of course, the risk of losing is definitely there, it's just that you can always learn to minimize it.

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Good day everyone on this beautiful forum.
We all know how trading can be for everyone , everyone is there to make profits (money) , but the fact some people can go to length in using all they've ever had to trade is mesmerizing!.
Some even go as far as getting loans , borrowing from friends so they could trade, or invest in some altcoins..
The same apply to other things like sports betting, gambling and all of them.

I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
He then went on to use this money to trade , now psychologically he was just not ready for it because his whole mindset was just about making a huge amount of money that he ended up loosing everything.
So my advice to people who hurrily invest and use all the have is that the market is never running away.
Do not stake your all! Be patient follow guidelines, learn how to trade safely , thank you!

In normal circumstances there's differences between trading and investing, if a friend knows their different,  i think he should choose the one that he think it will favour, in trading  two things are involved is either you lose or gain, but investment brings something huge in returns, but for you to invest patient must involve.
   If he really needs high profit he should invest, but don’t take a load to trade or invest, is not a good idea.
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August 25, 2024, 08:22:16 PM
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In normal circumstances there's differences between trading and investing, if a friend knows their different,  i think he should choose the one that he think it will favour, in trading  two things are involved is either you lose or gain, but investment brings something huge in returns, but for you to invest patient must involve.
   If he really needs high profit he should invest, but don’t take a load to trade or invest, is not a good idea.

Hmm, trading and investing share many common requirements and different as well, but the most needed and common requirement is self-control, yup you can also call it emotion control, it's not that it's needed in trading while making decisions and executing the strategies it holds similar worthwhile making an investment as well because if you have the self-control you can take better decisions like you can avoid the FUD and FOMO scenarios where 80% investors and 90% traders fall into the market's trap.

I do agree that in trading there's profit and loss the ending results but in investment as well there are both scenarios that co-exist It's highly possible that where you've invested you gain profits or lose all due to improper analysis and wrong approach. Trading is more stressful where you need proper skills to start, where if you are quite good at basics of crypto or any other market you can be a good investor.


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August 25, 2024, 09:59:21 PM
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Trading itself is highly risky, what more if you chose to trade using borrowed funds, that would only mean increasing the risk and the pressures on earning most especially that trading does not guarantee when to make profits or worst is, you won't be getting any profits but resulted all into losses. Even professional traders are aware of it. Trading can be a good outlet if you aim to make great earnings, but know that trading with high caution will always be a must, regardless if you are a professional or newbie in trading.
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August 25, 2024, 10:00:45 PM
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If he would have taken that loan for a long term investment, which is still considered a safer option, yet I would have adivsed not to do it because we should only be investing what we can afford.
Taking loans has always been considered a bad option and on top of that he took it for trading.
Trading isn't generally bad but not everyone is so good to make money out of trading.
Hence it should only be done when we have a good capital with us and otherwise we shouldn't consider that option.

I won't advice anyone to borrow money to invest in bitcoin, because if what time for you to pay back is near and you don't have another source of income to pay, I will prefer you take your time to actually invest so that you don't put yourself in a mess of having to pay some back their money. But if you have a job you can invest out of your monthly money, to make things easy for your self,  you can no add up problems to your self I love my life self been free and I love planning anything that will affect me financially I don't think I will do it and if have planned  and it goes well, their people that they already have what works for them and they will decide what will works for them, so we can not actually dictate what works for people and it is better that way since everyone knows what works for them.

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Cryptocurrency and Forex trading are  kt an easy field to conduct business. They both have an unmatched risk level when compared with other financial engaging activities.
 
Cryptocurrency trading can easily be co pared tobe more dangerous when compared with Forextrading. That's because, the market movers for forex trading can easily be determined. News is one factor that can greatly move the direction of a thread.in the case of Cryptocurrency, there isn't a definite market determinant. As such analyzing this market is very difficult and so is the trading.
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I find it funny for people to go borrow money to trade or do investment, at first what are they thinking where is their mind to say that they would go borrow money to venture into a business they
have no knowledge about. The thing is both in trading, investment or gambling people shouldn't do that even though it's proven to be a trust and reliable games because most people do calls correct score and I know there's nothing like correct scores because not game is sure, same it's to trading if you aren't sure of the kind of trading you wanna do it's better to avoid it entirely and take time to learn your trading.

Making decisions to start an investment or trading is not a big deal but you have to compose yourself and be knowledgeable on what you are about to engage yourself in, also be aware of how risky what you are about to do is, understand the advantages and the disadvantages, and also the rules and protocol that guide that particular decision you've taken.
You think people look into that nowadays? No, I am not sure because if they do there is no time most people would go invest money they borrowed from people or all their life savings into gambling. It could be true that they had gone true learning stages but the zeal and despiracy wouldn't allow them to take their thorough lessons on what is best for them to know before jumping into investment or trading and gambling, that is the area most people are finding it very hard to understand.

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It is not advisable to invest your all you will end up a big loss and disappointment, it is always said by the expert that always invest an amount that you can afford to loss, they say it because they maybe experienced a lot of losses because in investing it is a win or loss not everytime you will earn and not everytime you will loss.

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It is not advisable to invest your all you will end up a big loss and disappointment, it is always said by the expert that always invest an amount that you can afford to loss, they say it because they maybe experienced a lot of losses because in investing it is a win or loss not everytime you will earn and not everytime you will loss.
investment is planned for a certain period of time. it is not advisable to invest everything we have. That is to avoid the possibility of us being in a difficult situation.
the important factor is our financial management. investing in everything does not mean anything we have. but everything we have arranged for investment should be by considering the needs of our expenses and income.
trust in the selected assets also affects the results which will greatly affect our psychology when faced with a market situation that is not good enough.
you say we can't profit and lose all the time. but trust when choosing the right assets can actually keep you in a profitable investment. choose the right assets and carry out the plan well.

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Cryptocurrency and Forex trading are  kt an easy field to conduct business. They both have an unmatched risk level when compared with other financial engaging activities.
 
Cryptocurrency trading can easily be co pared tobe more dangerous when compared with Forextrading. That's because, the market movers for forex trading can easily be determined. News is one factor that can greatly move the direction of a thread.in the case of Cryptocurrency, there isn't a definite market determinant. As such analyzing this market is very difficult and so is the trading.
If forex trading vs crypto trading, forex trading seems quite complicated to me that's why i never tried forex trading. I am familiar in crypto trading for many years, I have been involved in crypto for over an era but i have interest with forex trading i will start demo trading very soon.

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August 26, 2024, 02:21:18 PM
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It is not advisable to invest your all you will end up a big loss and disappointment, it is always said by the expert that always invest an amount that you can afford to loss, they say it because they maybe experienced a lot of losses because in investing it is a win or loss not everytime you will earn and not everytime you will loss.
Many have experienced losing with everything that we've got. Even I, I've lost significant amount of money from various investments and trades that I was too naive and new because I was just brave during those times and got enough budget to do some large risks. It's very important to look at your current financial situation if you can take such risks or not at all. It's true that don't invest all that you have and you need to save for yourself as well and every action you do, you need to do some plans what if that trade and investment you are doing didn't worked at all.

Not every investment that we enter and we put money to won't be as effective and successful as the first ones that we've got. Losses are normal and so as winning too when you know what you are up to. Warren Buffett is right about the reminder to everyone that we need to be careful with investing and eggs(assets) of us shouldn't be stored on one space(basket/investment). Because if done and that very investment or asset we have put our money too lost, then we're lost completely.

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Trading itself is highly risky, what more if you chose to trade using borrowed funds, that would only mean increasing the risk and the pressures on earning most especially that trading does not guarantee when to make profits or worst is, you won't be getting any profits but resulted all into losses. Even professional traders are aware of it. Trading can be a good outlet if you aim to make great earnings, but know that trading with high caution will always be a must, regardless if you are a professional or newbie in trading.

I agree. Experience and responsibility lead the way in this sphere. You can't hope for a future that will become better without those two, in my opinion.

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Good day everyone on this beautiful forum.
We all know how trading can be for everyone , everyone is there to make profits (money) , but the fact some people can go to length in using all they've ever had to trade is mesmerizing!.
Some even go as far as getting loans , borrowing from friends so they could trade, or invest in some altcoins..
The same apply to other things like sports betting, gambling and all of them.

I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
He then went on to use this money to trade , now psychologically he was just not ready for it because his whole mindset was just about making a huge amount of money that he ended up loosing everything.
So my advice to people who hurrily invest and use all the have is that the market is never running away.
Do not stake your all! Be patient follow guidelines, learn how to trade safely , thank you!
Now this is one take of yours that I can stand behind. A lot of people assume that just because you'd trade, you'd earn money, and in that regard, they'd put in as much money as they could possibly muster thinking that they'd be able to earn it threefold or more anyway, not knowing that trading at its core is a nuanced venture, and not every attempt at trading would result to a profit. So what should a responsible trader do? Pretty simple, just set risk appetites and budgets for yourself, that you would have to follow religiously.

Soon as you're able to do this, you'd be able to trade without the worry of losing out on so much, and furthermore, you'd still be able to eat and do whatever the fuck you want without having to adjust for allocating a part of your budget to trading.

Also, this goes without saying, but when you gamble, you also have to make sure that you diversify your assets in the best way you could.

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If he would have taken that loan for a long term investment, which is still considered a safer option, yet I would have adivsed not to do it because we should only be investing what we can afford.
Taking loans has always been considered a bad option and on top of that he took it for trading.
Trading isn't generally bad but not everyone is so good to make money out of trading.
Hence it should only be done when we have a good capital with us and otherwise we shouldn't consider that option.

It is not a good idea to borrow money and invest in Bitcoin or engage in trading. In fact, we are always advised by experienced traders or investors that we should only invest what we can afford to lose. So, why would someone borrow money to invest or trade when they know they cannot afford to lose it? It is clear that anyone who borrows money to trade or invest is eager to make quick money, which is why they go ahead and take a loan to invest or trade.

Why is it very bad to invest with borrowed funds? Because when the time comes to pay back, due to the volatile nature of Bitcoin, its price may drop, and you will probably have to sell at a loss, potentially adding to your debt. As for trading, we all know that it is very risky, and with any little mistake, someone can lose their funds, which can lead to not being able to pay back the loan.

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August 26, 2024, 06:28:21 PM
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If he would have taken that loan for a long term investment, which is still considered a safer option, yet I would have adivsed not to do it because we should only be investing what we can afford.
Taking loans has always been considered a bad option and on top of that he took it for trading.
Trading isn't generally bad but not everyone is so good to make money out of trading.
Hence it should only be done when we have a good capital with us and otherwise we shouldn't consider that option.

It is not a good idea to borrow money and invest in Bitcoin or engage in trading. In fact, we are always advised by experienced traders or investors that we should only invest what we can afford to lose. So, why would someone borrow money to invest or trade when they know they cannot afford to lose it? It is clear that anyone who borrows money to trade or invest is eager to make quick money, which is why they go ahead and take a loan to invest or trade.

Why is it very bad to invest with borrowed funds? Because when the time comes to pay back, due to the volatile nature of Bitcoin, its price may drop, and you will probably have to sell at a loss, potentially adding to your debt. As for trading, we all know that it is very risky, and with any little mistake, someone can lose their funds, which can lead to not being able to pay back the loan.

It may end up very badly for everybody involved, such risks should be considered and worked with properly, you are totally right.

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Good day everyone on this beautiful forum.
We all know how trading can be for everyone , everyone is there to make profits (money) , but the fact some people can go to length in using all they've ever had to trade is mesmerizing!.
Some even go as far as getting loans , borrowing from friends so they could trade, or invest in some altcoins..
The same apply to other things like sports betting, gambling and all of them.

I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
He then went on to use this money to trade , now psychologically he was just not ready for it because his whole mindset was just about making a huge amount of money that he ended up loosing everything.
So my advice to people who hurrily invest and use all the have is that the market is never running away.
Do not stake your all! Be patient follow guidelines, learn how to trade safely , thank you!
Now this is one take of yours that I can stand behind. A lot of people assume that just because you'd trade, you'd earn money, and in that regard, they'd put in as much money as they could possibly muster thinking that they'd be able to earn it threefold or more anyway, not knowing that trading at its core is a nuanced venture, and not every attempt at trading would result to a profit. So what should a responsible trader do? Pretty simple, just set risk appetites and budgets for yourself, that you would have to follow religiously.

Soon as you're able to do this, you'd be able to trade without the worry of losing out on so much, and furthermore, you'd still be able to eat and do whatever the fuck you want without having to adjust for allocating a part of your budget to trading.

Also, this goes without saying, but when you gamble, you also have to make sure that you diversify your assets in the best way you could.
Speaking about trading profits then it would really be just that the same in speaking about diversification on other assets or anything on which it could bring out that potential profits that you could be able to possibly
obtain but of course it wont really be something easy considering that budget allocation or capital is really that much needed. Investing would really be accompanied by a certain risks on which it would be needing up something for you to consider out on the moment that you would really be dealing up on something. Every actions that would be taken would really be having that corresponding risks but the important thing on here is that you should really that know on the things that you should gonna do so that at least you are aware on what are the possible actions taking just incase if shit things do happen.

Budgeting and allocation will really be that part of risks management on which this is something that you would really be needing up on the time or moment that you do find yourself having
dealing into something that involves money on which its a common approach to have rather than on being careless or wont really be minding that much about it.
So it would really be that detrimental on such aspect.

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August 27, 2024, 11:03:38 PM
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So my advice to people who hurrily invest and use all the have is that the market is never running away.
Do not stake your all! Be patient follow guidelines, learn how to trade safely , thank you!
One of the reason why most beginners have always failed in trading is because they rush into it and not ready to get the knowledge which is very important to succeed in trading. One of the difficult mistakes that every beginner should is avoid is to take loan to invest or for trading. It is not even a good idea for one to invest with the only money one has  because trading or investment are unpredictable. Having a steady source of income is important and trading or investing with money you can afford to lose is also important which beginners don't need to neglect this. It is better to learn trading well and practice it than to rush into it trying to make money from it quick . Rushing trading to make money from it fast can lead to lose of money.

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