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August 20, 2024, 02:56:50 PM
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Good day everyone on this beautiful forum.
We all know how trading can be for everyone , everyone is there to make profits (money) , but the fact some people can go to length in using all they've ever had to trade is mesmerizing!.
Some even go as far as getting loans , borrowing from friends so they could trade, or invest in some altcoins..
The same apply to other things like sports betting, gambling and all of them.

I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
He then went on to use this money to trade , now psychologically he was just not ready for it because his whole mindset was just about making a huge amount of money that he ended up loosing everything.
So my advice to people who hurrily invest and use all the have is that the market is never running away.
Do not stake your all! Be patient follow guidelines, learn how to trade safely , thank you!
It is true that one should not invest all the money at once, if necessary, it is better to invest slowly over time in the DCA method. There are many people who jump into investment with all their money in a hurry and all those people are seen to lose heart when the market dumps from their investment time. Especially in any case such as trading, it is not right to take all the money in trading at once and also in gambling, all the money should not be taken in gamboling platform. It is very important to have some left over for doing any work because if there is any left over then of course later investment trading can be done with that left over money.

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August 21, 2024, 04:36:37 PM
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Trading can never guarantee profits all the time so we should be often cautious on the amount of funds we dare to put as trading capital. Trade at your own risk, and trade only if you are ready to lose. Because let’s admit it that trading creates inevitable losses as well, and for some successful traders who are now enjoying their current position, undoubtedly they have also endured a lot of losses at first in their early trading.

While trading can make you rich, but it can also make you the poorest of the poor. So always trade with caution, if you can’t do that, then get rid of trading as early as now before you end using up all your funds.
Exactly mate. Trading is not all about profits and money making, but it’s also a means to lose all your capital in just a blink of an eye. So if you are still a newbie, don’t rush into trading but observe the market first and gather all information that will help you in your future trades. And as much as possible, learn from the experiences of early traders, when they say trading is too risky, then avoid trading if you are still not confident to trade. Otherwise, you will suffer from too much losses, most especially if you are convinced that trading will make you rich faster, when in reality it’s another way to mess up with your funds if you are still not an experienced trader.
Sometimes beginners forget that, and even someone who has been trading for a long time will forget that too. They focus too much on the profits they can get, at the same time they forget that they can also feel a greater loss than the profits they can get.

Focusing too much on profits will make us greedy traders and that can be the beginning of us spending our money on trading. I know that who doesn't want to get big and fast profits, but we also have to be aware of our abilities and knowledge and we can't predict the market very accurately. Even though they are very experienced traders, they will not be free from the losses that can be felt.

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Trading can never guarantee profits all the time so we should be often cautious on the amount of funds we dare to put as trading capital. Trade at your own risk, and trade only if you are ready to lose. Because let’s admit it that trading creates inevitable losses as well, and for some successful traders who are now enjoying their current position, undoubtedly they have also endured a lot of losses at first in their early trading.

While trading can make you rich, but it can also make you the poorest of the poor. So always trade with caution, if you can’t do that, then get rid of trading as early as now before you end using up all your funds.
Exactly mate. Trading is not all about profits and money making, but it’s also a means to lose all your capital in just a blink of an eye. So if you are still a newbie, don’t rush into trading but observe the market first and gather all information that will help you in your future trades. And as much as possible, learn from the experiences of early traders, when they say trading is too risky, then avoid trading if you are still not confident to trade. Otherwise, you will suffer from too much losses, most especially if you are convinced that trading will make you rich faster, when in reality it’s another way to mess up with your funds if you are still not an experienced trader.
Sometimes beginners forget that, and even someone who has been trading for a long time will forget that too. They focus too much on the profits they can get, at the same time they forget that they can also feel a greater loss than the profits they can get.

Focusing too much on profits will make us greedy traders and that can be the beginning of us spending our money on trading. I know that who doesn't want to get big and fast profits, but we also have to be aware of our abilities and knowledge and we can't predict the market very accurately. Even though they are very experienced traders, they will not be free from the losses that can be felt.
There's no such thing about being a perfect trader on which there would really be those individuals who would be that missing out those basic things even they are already that old or been long time into this market.
There would really be factors on which it would really affect out your decision making even if  you do know that you are really that knowing it. Its always been important that you shouldnt really be investing
all of your money when making up some investment specially on crypto on which we know that when it comes to this manner then everything could really happen. When making investment on which its not really that limited on crypto but also in other investment as well on which it would really be that recommended that risks management is really that crucial on these moments or times.

Dont invest on what you cant be able afford to lose. On the time that you would really be that forgetting such risks management then it would really be that leading into disaster.
This is why dont let those impulsive actions would really be leading into those bad decisions because this is where shit conditions would be starting to kick on.

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August 22, 2024, 03:23:41 AM
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I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
what can be said to your friend is crazy. As a beginner in trading must also know that trading has profit and loss. and without sufficient skills and knowledge, your friend dares to take greater risks. he is ready to not be paid in some of his jobs for stupid trades.
trading can be safe and done well when it is following ability. if capital alone must be borrowed, it means that the trader does not have the ability to trade from the start. he is forcing himself, or maybe gambling with his luck.

Taking a loan to trade is not advisable because you are taking a big risk, trading can give you 100% that you will win when you stake, so it is better you used your own personal money and tradenot others' because he will put you in a big problem when you trade and you lose on it, he will put you in a big debt, that is why they said used money you can afford to lose and loan money is not something you can lose on because you borrowed it and you definitely need to pay back when the times comes, and you personally used it and trade thinking he will favour you and get capital and profits back.

What I've noticed is that if you borrow a loan and trade, you won't have enough time to learn about trading because your mind is always on profits. If you're new to trading and take a loan to start trading, I'd say he doesn't know what he's doing, it's better to take a loan to do another business that you believe will benefit you and reduce your risk rather than trading. I am confident your friend lacks experience in internet business and cryptocurrency, because if he takes a loan he will not consider trading with it, sincerely you would be completely confused if the market does not favour him and you lose all of your funds.

Everyone loses money when trading, but if you have expertise and comprehension of market research, I believe you will profit and not lose money at any time. If your friend is wise, he should use his salary percentage instead of a loan to start trading. If he uses personal money, he won't feel the loss because he will get another one, but if he uses a loan, he will be concerned if he loses all the money. And you don't have anything better to do with the loan, which he wasted, and you will undoubtedly repay the bill. My advise to him is to try and return the loan and used is personal money and lean trading not to used loan money.

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August 22, 2024, 05:22:56 AM
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I had a friend who took a loan from the company he works for , about 30,000, which would then be deducted from his initial salary.
what can be said to your friend is crazy. As a beginner in trading must also know that trading has profit and loss. and without sufficient skills and knowledge, your friend dares to take greater risks. he is ready to not be paid in some of his jobs for stupid trades.
trading can be safe and done well when it is following ability. if capital alone must be borrowed, it means that the trader does not have the ability to trade from the start. he is forcing himself, or maybe gambling with his luck.
Everyone loses money when trading, but if you have expertise and comprehension of market research, I believe you will profit and not lose money at any time. If your friend is wise, he should use his salary percentage instead of a loan to start trading. If he uses personal money, he won't feel the loss because he will get another one, but if he uses a loan, he will be concerned if he loses all the money. And you don't have anything better to do with the loan, which he wasted, and you will undoubtedly repay the bill. My advise to him is to try and return the loan and used is personal money and lean trading not to used loan money.
An investor must take risks in conducting a business. Just have to remind that cryptocurrency is a risky platform. So must bear the risk. But should take that risk according to his ability. He must be aware of how much risk he can afford. A person who invests with a loan will be more risky than others. If there is no condition to repay the loan, then it is better not to take the loan because if the investment is harmed, he will have to face a difficult situation for it. There are many investors who rely on the normal behavior of the market, such investors will have more losses than profits. If they do not have good knowledge about the market before taking any decision, then they will fail to hold emotions and thus the chances of losing will increase. Before investing with loans one must acquire investment knowledge.

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Can you give more details how he losses most of his asset in just a one blink or just a casually doing an all in investment and lose his trades. If this thing he make an investment with the futures possible he got liquidated with just a wrong decision in his trade or getting afraid for his denial with his position there's a lot of case scenario but at the end of the day you must need to avoid putting all your asset in just a single investment so you don't need to worry about if the price of a particular coin drops unexpectedly you have other resources. There's a saying in investment that don't all your money in a single basket because once it's fell most of your asset will lose.

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Can you give more details how he losses most of his asset in just a one blink or just a casually doing an all in investment and lose his trades. If this thing he make an investment with the futures possible he got liquidated with just a wrong decision in his trade or getting afraid for his denial with his position there's a lot of case scenario but at the end of the day you must need to avoid putting all your asset in just a single investment so you don't need to worry about if the price of a particular coin drops unexpectedly you have other resources. There's a saying in investment that don't all your money in a single basket because once it's fell most of your asset will lose.

Diversification of the assets is key, you are right! That way, the odds of you being in a total minus are going down, but not to zero Grin

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Can you give more details how he losses most of his asset in just a one blink or just a casually doing an all in investment and lose his trades. If this thing he make an investment with the futures possible he got liquidated with just a wrong decision in his trade or getting afraid for his denial with his position there's a lot of case scenario but at the end of the day you must need to avoid putting all your asset in just a single investment so you don't need to worry about if the price of a particular coin drops unexpectedly you have other resources. There's a saying in investment that don't all your money in a single basket because once it's fell most of your asset will lose.
The story that op conveyed was just a conclusion without any chronology that we could follow closely. However, we assume that he has lost everything, so we can conclude that he did something wrong if he traded, or maybe if he invested in the coin he invested in was a meme coin, or maybe he was deceived by someone who invited him.
From the story conveyed by op, it seems that it was experienced by a beginner who in terms of knowledge was not enough, maybe he had just gotten to know trading or the crypto world. The bigger problem is that he used borrowed money that he had to pay. If I were in that position, I might have been stressed because I had to accept the fact that my money was gone in a very short time.
Maybe op's friend was tempted by whoever said that trading was very profitable, while they did not tell him the risks that he could feel.

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August 22, 2024, 08:23:47 AM
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Can you give more details how he losses most of his asset in just a one blink or just a casually doing an all in investment and lose his trades. If this thing he make an investment with the futures possible he got liquidated with just a wrong decision in his trade or getting afraid for his denial with his position there's a lot of case scenario but at the end of the day you must need to avoid putting all your asset in just a single investment so you don't need to worry about if the price of a particular coin drops unexpectedly you have other resources. There's a saying in investment that don't all your money in a single basket because once it's fell most of your asset will lose.
The story that op conveyed was just a conclusion without any chronology that we could follow closely. However, we assume that he has lost everything, so we can conclude that he did something wrong if he traded, or maybe if he invested in the coin he invested in was a meme coin, or maybe he was deceived by someone who invited him.
From the story conveyed by op, it seems that it was experienced by a beginner who in terms of knowledge was not enough, maybe he had just gotten to know trading or the crypto world. The bigger problem is that he used borrowed money that he had to pay. If I were in that position, I might have been stressed because I had to accept the fact that my money was gone in a very short time.
Maybe op's friend was tempted by whoever said that trading was very profitable, while they did not tell him the risks that he could feel.

Yep, the story is a bit torn out in some bits, but risks that are at stake should always be taken into account, both by newbies and experienced people alike.

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You mentioned it right, pal. Not everything we do in trading activity will always favor what we want to happen, especially if we are in the stage of exploring trading here in the crypto business. Because usually, in such situations, newbies lose in this field.

And to shape us as traders, let's learn from the mistakes we make in the actual trade we do. Without something like this, we won't be able to see where we went wrong, and we won't be able to use our thinking correctly on the mistakes that we can make, as long as we don't repeat the wrong thing.
The hard part about trading is that we do not really know how things will go and because of that we do not really have anything causing the easy solution right now, we know that it will take a while and we know that it will not be simple but we need to make sure that it is going to end up with a greater result eventually. This is why we need to focus on making things better and easier, which is why we need to consider how to get a greater result eventually.

Sometimes it is not easy to handle, sometimes it takes time, but at that point we are going to face with issues that are beyond what we can consider acceptable if we are not careful. Just do what you want to do with long term holding and you should be fine in the end. If you keep focusing on what could be the end result then you are going to end up with nothing good, just focus on long term and do not give yourself a set time or set price, just hold as long as you can and you will do better. This isn't really that hard to do, a lot of people fail to see that but the reality is that we are going to end up with a great result no matter what we do, which is why we should probably considering this situation to be great if we hold.

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August 23, 2024, 03:12:08 PM
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It is true that one should not invest all the money at once, if necessary, it is better to invest slowly over time in the DCA method. There are many people who jump into investment with all their money in a hurry and all those people are seen to lose heart when the market dumps from their investment time. Especially in any case such as trading, it is not right to take all the money in trading at once and also in gambling, all the money should not be taken in gamboling platform. It is very important to have some left over for doing any work because if there is any left over then of course later investment trading can be done with that left over money.
When someone decides to invest, it is very important to have a plan first so that they can run the investment they are running well and it is very bad for those who do it in a hurry without having any planning, of course they will not be able to survive the investment they are running and using the DCA method in investing will indeed be better and we must be able to do it consistently to be able to generate profits in investing.

In terms of trading, of course we have to do an analysis first before deciding to take the assets we have because it is possible that the assets we trade will no longer increase and it is better for us to take them and not maintain the assets, because if we choose to maintain and experience losses, so in terms of trading it will be very important to analyze first before making decisions on the trades we make.

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Trading is not the same as investing. Rather you must keep in mind that trading is very risky and if you do not have proper knowledge about this subject then there is a high probability that you will lose through it. So when trading next you must research about this or the coin you are going to trade and take advice from people who have already traded then you can trade. Now if one starts trading with loan and if he has no past experience about trading then he is most likely to get hurt. So mindlessly trading with only profit in mind will only hurt you financially as you will not be able to profit wrongly. So you must do your due diligence before trading.

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Yep, the story is a bit torn out in some bits, but risks that are at stake should always be taken into account, both by newbies and experienced people alike.
In any case, everyone must do it based on their own abilities, whether through investment or trading because when we do any job based on our own abilities, of course there will always be considerations and calculations regarding the risks and potential that we can get in that job. So nothing is disjointed because in any case there must always be considerations based on our own knowledge and abilities so that we do not face silly mistakes that arise from our own decisions.

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August 23, 2024, 04:13:09 PM
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It is true that one should not invest all the money at once, if necessary, it is better to invest slowly over time in the DCA method. There are many people who jump into investment with all their money in a hurry and all those people are seen to lose heart when the market dumps from their investment time. Especially in any case such as trading, it is not right to take all the money in trading at once and also in gambling, all the money should not be taken in gamboling platform. It is very important to have some left over for doing any work because if there is any left over then of course later investment trading can be done with that left over money.
When someone decides to invest, it is very important to have a plan first so that they can run the investment they are running well and it is very bad for those who do it in a hurry without having any planning, of course they will not be able to survive the investment they are running and using the DCA method in investing will indeed be better and we must be able to do it consistently to be able to generate profits in investing.

In terms of trading, of course we have to do an analysis first before deciding to take the assets we have because it is possible that the assets we trade will no longer increase and it is better for us to take them and not maintain the assets, because if we choose to maintain and experience losses, so in terms of trading it will be very important to analyze first before making decisions on the trades we make.
Plan is really that recommended because if you would really be that making yourself dealing up with investment not only just that limited to crypto but also in other forms of investment as well.
Always having that moderation and control or simply having those plans or analysis been applied because if you would really be just that making out such steps without
having any consideration on doing that then you would really be that prone into those mistakes on which we know that this could really be that in resulting into such loses.
This is why you should really be that careful on whatever the actions that you would really be doing. Investing it all? It already sounds crazy on doing that.

Never ever make yourself goes into the path that you would really be that making yourself look like a gambler because this isnt really something that you could apply when making
investment and this is something that you should avoid as much as you could because if you would really be having that kind of approach then losing would really be that even more
in compared when you are really that being that too keen about plans and analysis.

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In any case, everyone must do it based on their own abilities, whether through investment or trading because when we do any job based on our own abilities, of course there will always be considerations and calculations regarding the risks and potential that we can get in that job. So nothing is disjointed because in any case there must always be considerations based on our own knowledge and abilities so that we do not face silly mistakes that arise from our own decisions.

That's a simple fact that most people ignore, especially when they are getting into financial markets such as the cryptocurrency market. You can't imitate someone else's actions and expect to have the same results as them because you don't even know what you are doing. The person who is using a certain strategy or a plan knows what they are doing because they must have done their research before it and who knows? They might have other plans with what they are doing.

If you follow their actions blindly thinking that you will benefit from it then you will surely have to incur losses unless you are very lucky but then again, trading is not gambling and we can't rely on our luck in it, it's our actions and decisions that can make us earn something from it.

So it's important for every trader to learn everything themselves and make their trades based on their own knowledge instead of following or copying others.

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Trading is not the same as investing. Rather you must keep in mind that trading is very risky and if you do not have proper knowledge about this subject then there is a high probability that you will lose through it. So when trading next you must research about this or the coin you are going to trade and take advice from people who have already traded then you can trade. Now if one starts trading with loan and if he has no past experience about trading then he is most likely to get hurt. So mindlessly trading with only profit in mind will only hurt you financially as you will not be able to profit wrongly. So you must do your due diligence before trading.
Right. Never ever take a loan at the start of trading because if you lose your money at the start of your journey, you will be frustrated and quit trading. I think for initial trading capital, you must have other sources of income. You have some skills that can give side money and invest only that money in trading that you can afford to lose. If someone takes a loan of four to five thousand dollars to start trading and unfortunately, if you lose the capital, your interest and confidence in trading will be lost. So start with low capital, it's for practicing trading and understanding the Schoology of trading, but it's also necessary to ready your big capital for future investment. My recommendation is don't take any loans and trade until and unless you are good at trading.



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Yep, the story is a bit torn out in some bits, but risks that are at stake should always be taken into account, both by newbies and experienced people alike.
In any case, everyone must do it based on their own abilities, whether through investment or trading because when we do any job based on our own abilities, of course there will always be considerations and calculations regarding the risks and potential that we can get in that job. So nothing is disjointed because in any case there must always be considerations based on our own knowledge and abilities so that we do not face silly mistakes that arise from our own decisions.
yes that's right, in investment or trading of course they must be able to do it based on their own abilities because when they do it beyond their abilities it will actually become a weapon that can kill them like the term double-edged sword. moreover when they invest all the money they have it will be bad because the investment they make is impossible to make a profit quickly so they need to have other funds to survive.

and considering everything well is something that must be considered so that no mistakes will occur later because the purpose of investment or trading is certainly not to lose money but to seek profit so as much as possible considering everything well must be done.
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August 25, 2024, 08:23:17 AM
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It is true that one should not invest all the money at once, if necessary, it is better to invest slowly over time in the DCA method. There are many people who jump into investment with all their money in a hurry and all those people are seen to lose heart when the market dumps from their investment time. Especially in any case such as trading, it is not right to take all the money in trading at once and also in gambling, all the money should not be taken in gamboling platform. It is very important to have some left over for doing any work because if there is any left over then of course later investment trading can be done with that left over money.
When someone decides to invest, it is very important to have a plan first so that they can run the investment they are running well and it is very bad for those who do it in a hurry without having any planning, of course they will not be able to survive the investment they are running and using the DCA method in investing will indeed be better and we must be able to do it consistently to be able to generate profits in investing.

In terms of trading, of course we have to do an analysis first before deciding to take the assets we have because it is possible that the assets we trade will no longer increase and it is better for us to take them and not maintain the assets, because if we choose to maintain and experience losses, so in terms of trading it will be very important to analyze first before making decisions on the trades we make.
Planning is one of the most important to do before going into investment and again knowing what they are going to invest, like the overall knowledge pertaining what they are going to invest. Before someone investment in cryptocurrency he should understand the risk involved, at least target whether the investment gonna be fruitful in time to come and also how tolerance he could be when the lost come.

Many people focused on the profits aspect without even considering the risk, and when the risk comes they got weird and start to larment when they had lose their investment, but most times greed triggers all the action for them to go invest all they ever have into investment without considering the danger and risk. This is applicable to those who gamble with all they have and after they start experiencing lost they channel their blames to people around them.

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August 25, 2024, 08:52:11 AM
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You know that you shouldn't always put all your assets in one basket and this is to make sure that you won’t lose everything if it doesn’t go your way. The best way to prevent this to have risk management and if you are taking a loan just for this, Make sure that you have a way to pay it if it doesn’t go the right direction that you want.

Indeed, it’s always going to be like that. Risk management is going to be the key to preserving money.

Putting all your assets in one basket in very risky because the basket may fall mistakenly and pour away everything in it, but when you put them in different basket and one fall away, you will still have the remaining ones to depend on, when starting a business you cannot invest all you have in it or you may regret it later, spending a lot of money and leverage in a business is not the most important thing you need to do, for you to make a lot of profits, you have to involve risk Management so that your business should run smoothly.

I find it funny for people to go borrow money to trade or do investment, at first what are they thinking where is their mind to say that they would go borrow money to venture into a business they
have no knowledge about. The thing is both in trading, investment or gambling people shouldn't do that even though it's proven to be a trust and reliable games because most people do calls correct score and I know there's nothing like correct scores because not game is sure, same it's to trading if you aren't sure of the kind of trading you wanna do it's better to avoid it entirely and take time to learn your trading.

Making decisions to start an investment or trading is not a big deal but you have to compose yourself and be knowledgeable on what you are about to engage yourself in, also be aware of how risky what you are about to do is, understand the advantages and the disadvantages, and also the rules and protocol that guide that particular decision you've taken.

If you start something without prior preparation, it's results will definitely be terrible, i think same thing happen with your friend, he is not skilled in trading but start trade and wasted money. It was absolutely wrong to take loan for trading, he should have realized it was a very risky investment without proper knowledge in trading.

Borrowing money to start an investment or trading is the biggest mistake some people made, what will you feel when you lose the money, and you clearly know that is not your funds, what if you give them something dearly as a collateral, can you afford to lose something that is dear to you??

When you decided to start an investment or trading, make sure that all the expenditure are yours no matter how little it is, and spend what you can afford to lose on it (either on investment or trading).
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For people who use all the money, it is stupid or crazy, this is not recommended because it will lose all our money in an instant, although indeed if the market moves as we expect it will be a very large profit as well and can change our situation for the better financially.

But yes this is not comparable in terms of risk if it does not match what is expected because we will lose everything and even cannot trade again for a long time, a smart trader must look at the long term in thinking, if you lose today does not mean you will lose tomorrow, meaning that there must always be for opportunities in the future to come.

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