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I refer to neutral feedback. It turns out that three years ago the delays in payment were because he supposedly had a health problem, although it wasn't the first time it happened. I, who follow the thread, I'm tired that the regular operation of the casino consists of not paying on time the withdrawals that people request. Therefore, I have deleted my old feedback and I have put the same one to appear on top. I am even thinking of creating a newbie warning flag because people who are not registered in this forum should be able to see the risk they have if they deposit in that casino. Some recent thread comments: Empty hot wallet is an old repetitive issue at Bitvest, it happens so many times but I dont see real effort from LL to minimize it.
This became a normal scene in bitvest and it seems they don't really have people monitoring their hot wallet since this kind of issue still happening.
It will soon escalate and their players will lose trust in Bitvest if this continues to happen, It is already a warning sign...
It seems like that the users at bitvest are the die hard fans of the bitvest as they do not shift to any other gambling sites despite always facing this empty hot wallet issues.
However this is not a complement statement for bitvest. Rather they should focus on how to minimisize this issue so that the hot wallet are never empty. One thing is for sure that any new gambler playing at this site and if he face this issue, he may never return to the bitvest as his trust is shaken by this act.
5+ days now with multiple coin wallet's empty.
But I think its not good to normalize that situation since I guess its to much to wait for long days before we can get our withdrawals.
7+ days now and support tickets are being closed unanswered. Ludicrous.
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I am not sure how much support you will get on a flag as no one ends up losing money in the longrun. I'm all for a flag BTW, just not sure who all would hop on board. LL has always managed to end up making it right as far as filling the sig campaign wallet and filling the hotwallet on the site. Extreme delays in both and it's blatant disrespect to players on his site and members of this forum.
IIRC the last time he let the campaign run dry he got 3-5 red tags from DT, some of us changed to neutral once he filled the wallet or paid the past due amounts to campaign participants. Doesn't seem like he cares 1 way or the other about his reputation or this forum. Kinda has a i'll pay when I pay attitude.
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And I think this not the first time LL has done this and those who are complaining have experienced or saw it when it happens in the first time yet they are still using the casino to get the same experience. Why can't they leave the casino and use another active casinos? Or am I missing something? I don't understand why someone should be using that casino when he knows that, that is the behaviour of LL when you want to withdraw large amount. Like me I have not used that casino and seeing all this, I will not bother myself to use that casino.
And as for the flag. I think the matter has not gone to the level of creating flag because I have not seen any scam case yet but only the delay payment and withdrawal.
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And as for the flag. I think the matter has not gone to the level of creating flag because I have not seen any scam case yet but only the delay payment and withdrawal.
Delay payment and withdrawal are red flag signals. Many complaints that someone cannot withdraw coins from the casino are a kind of scam accusation. Personally, I don't believe that Lightlord has scam intentions, it has been around for a long time, and some problems were somehow solved in the end. The only thing I can't understand is why he insists on doing this business when it is obvious that everything is difficult to be functional and it seems questionable whether he makes a profit from it at all. Also, what's going on with that Elon coin of his, it's not even fun and certainly has no use value at all.
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Also, what's going on with that Elon coin of his, it's not even fun and certainly has no use value at all.
I've been researching a bit and I think it's not even traded any more. https://coinpaprika.com/coin/enc-eloncoin/https://coinranking.com/coin/eBFFUNyov+eloncoin-emcSo, another useless shitcoin that has gone to 0 it seems.
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I've been researching a bit and I think it's not even traded any more.
I think that part of the signature payment rate was in Elon coin, since the campaign ended there is no one to trade with it. So, another useless shitcoin that has gone to 0 it seems.
It was clear from the start that it was crap and without any perspective. Nevertheless, a signature campaign was launched, a manager, a certain amount of money was invested... Just a question, why? Obviously, LL has a limited budget, so it is even more unclear why he was throwing money to the wind.
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I've been researching a bit and I think it's not even traded any more.
I think that part of the signature payment rate was in Elon coin, since the campaign ended there is no one to trade with it. So, another useless shitcoin that has gone to 0 it seems.
It was clear from the start that it was crap and without any perspective. Nevertheless, a signature campaign was launched, a manager, a certain amount of money was invested... Just a question, why? Obviously, LL has a limited budget, so it is even more unclear why he was throwing money to the wind. Hoping it would take off and create a market and a new money supply as I imagine he holds a ton of the coin. Likely didn't really cost much to create and worth a shot in his opinion.
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I think the subject of the post sums it up nicely 'for the umpteenth time' people don't seem to care about these casinos and his late payments on campaigns. Is it because he always has made good, or because the amounts are so low it's just not getting people stressed out or ? Sooner or later it's going to cause a big enough problem for LL that he will either shut it all down OR start doing it properly. Since it seems to be run as a hobby side project for him, that is how things are taken care of. -Dave
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I am not sure how much support you will get on a flag as no one ends up losing money in the longrun. I'm all for a flag BTW, just not sure who all would hop on board. LL has always managed to end up making it right as far as filling the sig campaign wallet and filling the hotwallet on the site. Extreme delays in both and it's blatant disrespect to players on his site and members of this forum.
IIRC the last time he let the campaign run dry he got 3-5 red tags from DT, some of us changed to neutral once he filled the wallet or paid the past due amounts to campaign participants. Doesn't seem like he cares 1 way or the other about his reputation or this forum. Kinda has a i'll pay when I pay attitude. There's another old casino that has the same attitude nowadays. I can only conclude they're so loaded in money by now they simply stopped caring. I think a Newbie warning Flag would look good on that thread, so I'll Support it if OP creates one. I'll leave my neutral feedback untouched: it's part of the timeline of events. It was clear from the start that it was crap and without any perspective. Nevertheless, a signature campaign was launched, a manager, a certain amount of money was invested... Just a question, why? The same as any other shitcoin: make the creator rich(er). And spam the forum, I've put many of those spamcoin advertisers on ignore.
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Something is seriously wrong with Lightlord, he was not very much active in forum this year with only 11 posts written in 2024. Even when we look further back in history, during entire 2024, 2023 and 2022 he wrote only around 51 posts in forum. I don't know what is going on with him and his campaigns but I would be very careful dealing with him. Bitvest campaign was probably one of the biggest spam campaigns in forum ever.
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Something is seriously wrong with Lightlord, he was not very much active in forum this year with only 11 posts written in 2024. Even when we look further back in history, during entire 2024, 2023 and 2022 he wrote only around 51 posts in forum. I don't know what is going on with him and his campaigns but I would be very careful dealing with him. Bitvest campaign was probably one of the biggest spam campaigns in forum ever.
The individual could be seriously ill or going through a difficult time; I read he contacted COVID and his life hasn't been easy since (I can't remember where I saw it). The campaign manager also attempted to make contact multiple times with no response. Could he be alive or dead? We don't know; he's a businessman, and I find it difficult to imagine he would purposely disappear like that; something horrible could have happened to him. Another reason why privacy sucks.....
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The individual could be seriously ill or going through a difficult time; I read he contacted COVID and his life hasn't been easy since (I can't remember where I saw it).
If I remember correctly he clearly said at one point that he was seriously injured as a direct reaction to experimental injections, and he is not the only one who suffered from that crap. I am not sure about his health status now, but I know things changed a lot in last few years for him.
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The individual could be seriously ill or going through a difficult time; I read he contacted COVID and his life hasn't been easy since (I can't remember where I saw it).
This drama began long before Covid was a thing. I remember considering applying for the BitVest signature campaign in my early days as a forum user because it was one of the few for which a new account would qualify. Reports of slow payments and ignored complaints started in late 2018 or early 2019. At first there was another forum member that was managing the campaign for lightlord, who was erroneously being blamed, not recalling who that was at the moment. This has been going on for nearly six years now. It's obvious that lightlord should hand over treasury duties to someone else if he wants to keep the advertisement campaign operational.
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Personally, I don't believe that Lightlord has scam intentions
No, I don't think that's the case either. I think yahoo62278 summed it up pretty well: Doesn't seem like he cares 1 way or the other about his reputation or this forum. Kinda has a i'll pay when I pay attitude.
And I'll tell you all that I did not leave my neutral (and then nearly two years later, negative) trust lightly. If people didn't take heed of what I and others wrote, then they ought not complain when lightlord's behavior continues, because it's become standard for him to blow off a whole bunch of people he has an obligation to. That was clear to me for a while, which is why I kept my negative trust in his profile all this time.
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Something is seriously wrong with Lightlord, he was not very much active in forum this year with only 11 posts written in 2024. Even when we look further back in history, during entire 2024, 2023 and 2022 he wrote only around 51 posts in forum. I don't know what is going on with him and his campaigns but I would be very careful dealing with him. Bitvest campaign was probably one of the biggest spam campaigns in forum ever.
Since we don't don't what else is going on with him in terms of real life / family / work / other things not posting here does not mean much. I have said it before and will say it again and will keep saying it here and other locations. Changes in online participation in forums and other platforms MAY mean something else is going on the is preventing them from doing it OR it just many mean that they are doing other things and their priorities have changed. I have been online in one form or another since dial up BBSs and CompuServe in the early 1980s. And I have seen it dozens if not hundreds of times. Even now my time here is more 'personal' time. But my participation in another crypto discussion site is WAYYYY up but it's semi work related and will drop off in probably 18 months when that project ends. I will not leave it, but at that point after 24 to 30 months my postings are going to drop. If I don't tell them people may speculate why, but the end reason is going to be time. Go getting back to LL, did he pick up a hobby? get married? have kids? already had kids that got older and are now taking up more time? get a different job? get a transfer at his current job that requires a longer commute? And so on. So saying 'Something is seriously wrong with Lightlord' is just an opinion. I am no longer active on a bunch of car forums that I was a very active trader and parts broker on. There is nothing wrong with me, my attention is just elsewhere. There is no longer as much BTC to be made running the small casinos that LL has, so if that was one of his larger motivations to be here his participation dropping off is not surprising. With all of that rambling of mine above, it STILL DOES NOT excuse him from not paying people. -Dave
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Igebotz
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There is no longer as much BTC to be made running the small casinos that LL has, so if that was one of his larger motivations to be here his participation dropping off is not surprising.
With all of that rambling of mine above, it STILL DOES NOT excuse him from not paying people.
Dude was spending more than $10,000 a month on his two signature campaigns here; it doesn't appear like someone who isn't making enough money from his casinos. He runs an online business and cannot simply leave unless something is wrong. ( I hope he's still alive) I recommend that everyone boycott his platform for the time being, as the hot wallets are empty and LL is nowhere to be seen.
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Dude was spending more than $10,000 a month on his two signature campaigns here; it doesn't appear like someone who isn't making enough money from his casinos. He runs an online business and cannot simply leave unless something is wrong. ( I hope he's still alive)
I recommend that everyone boycott his platform for the time being, as the hot wallets are empty and LL is nowhere to be seen.
LL messed up again? LOL Bitvest campaign was probably one of the biggest spam campaigns in forum ever.
There was another one I can not remember the name. Both were managed by same manager.
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After thinking about it, I think that I will not create the newbie warning flag, since Lighlord, until today, has always ended up paying. I think yahoo62278 summed it up perfectly: Kinda has a i'll pay when I pay attitude.
Although in a derivative way there is a risk, and that is that when it takes a long time to process the withdrawals, some people end up betting the money they have in the casino and losing it. But I think that, for the moment, putting my negative feedback on top is enough.
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So saying 'Something is seriously wrong with Lightlord' is just an opinion. Not exactly, because I posted that based on something Lightlord actually posted, that he was seriously injured, after that his post count dropped a lot, and even without that his campaigns are a mess. On the other hand examples you mentioned are just speculation and opinion based on nothing.
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About a year ago lightlord sent me a PM asking to reconsider the negative tag, and mentioned that he would launch a sig campaign with escrow, therefore ensuring participants are always paid. I looked at his recent posts at the time and didn't see any such escrowed campaign being announced so I left the neg trust in place. It appears that he did indeed launch the campaign with escrow a few weeks later but I wasn't aware of it. Probably a good thing in hindsight LOL.
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