Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded

[lovesmayfamilis]

    Bananington

Registration year July 18, 2011 was inactive from 2013 to 2019.



The account, a former miner. And was popular in the digital goods section.

Clear delineation of posts. From 2011-08-18 to 2012-01-24, publications in the Mining support section: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Bananington&board=40
Since then, not a word on these topics..



There is a change of mail. Now it is an altcoin lover, a trader, etc.
Posts exclusively about trading or alternative coins.
In December 2020, a pause in posts begins, and the account wakes up with a password change in 2022, preparing its account to participate in the subscription company. Application for participation https://ninjastic.space/post/60813915



The owner is American, he talked about it several times, but now these posts have been deleted and are only in the archive.
https://ninjastic.space/post/443938

Now if you look at his merit forwarding, he gives preference to Nigerian accounts, which they do in return.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=34694
I will not press this as proof of residence. But anyone who is not blind will easily see it themselves.

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qnltt9tt5ddwkwud0jeyyle7crfnlsrusl0nmch

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c976a2af070e8f80e62aae009f7523e3ef12445e9c3e72d7f63baffe2e649410

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=1CZwnQQTrGUkfJg28xnGqcanFrcbsBN53m

The only address the account had before changing the email and password was 1EpZx9HSke6Z7Gncr1zvYwi5KXRFRXvsa8 https://ninjastic.space/post/444190, which could be proof that the owner remained the same.

I'll send him a link to this post.

[nutildah]

Any chance you can sign a message from this address?

1JvUpZkXynDUhsqBEFLukEi2TCS7meKmfF

No, this addy was from cryptsy exchange.

OK, I just have a hard time believing that someone with a 2013 account would all the sudden participate in spam discussions about gambling & start posting in the Pakistan thread for the first time.



You of course have the right to post anywhere you want, but I'm not removing my neutral tag, which I think is fairly worded.

   Bananington

Good find. Went from a real, individually-minded contributor to hivemind shitposter.

[TheGreatPython]

someone with a 2013 account would all the sudden participate in spam discussions about gambling

You mean all of sudden to gambling boards?

How this picture proves that I am new to above topics?

You of course have the right to post anywhere you want

Yeah, I have been confident on my English to ignore my local board but recently changed my mind from read-only mode. Still, I could not get how this proves change of ownership.

I'm not removing my neutral tag

It is your wish but you need to justify your claims.

participate in spam discussions

This is surely out of this topic coverage. If you find any of my post is spam, you are most welcome to report. There are mods to take care of...

[nutildah]

I'm not removing my neutral tag

It is your wish but you need to justify your claims.

My claim is this:

nutildah

2024-09-05

Reference

I have serious doubts that this account belongs to its original owner. (Delete)

Its not really even a "claim;" its just me expressing my opinion, with a reference link that explains how it was formed. Whoever clicks on the link also has the chance to read your responses, and if they find them to be compelling, then it won't matter whether the account was originally yours or not.

participate in spam discussions

This is surely out of this topic coverage. If you find any of my post is spam, you are most welcome to report. There are mods to take care of...

What I'm saying is that a lot of the threads you participate in are filled with spammy drivel. The bar for what passes as "not spam" on the Gambling board is very, very low. I doubt anybody who is not in a signature campaign will ever read any of them.


Combining this with the last post as it hasn't been 24 hours yet and I don't want to forget about it.

kro55

First off, I don't understand why Igebotz would add this user to their trust list as they haven't left any feedback.

Original owner's last post was in Dec 2017; prior to that it was Aug 2015.

The first thing the second owner did - in Sep 2019 - was stake a Bitcoin address which was never used on the forum before or after.

The account seems to have changed hands again in Jun 2021, as there was a 1+ year posting gap since May 2020. BPIP data corroborates these potential changes in ownership:



They also received a merit from this user which I want to remember to take a look at later. (2nd edit: seems to belong to the original account creator)

[lovesmayfamilis]

TribalBob

The account does not belong to the real owner. The first owner is a miner who mined many alternative coins himself. This can be traced by his posts in the section.
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=TribalBob&board=159

The second owner is from Indonesia. The language of the posts and the style itself have changed greatly. The Indonesian language started in 2018.
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=TribalBob&board=192

I see a gap of two years when the second owner abruptly changes the direction of interests.

Yes earning from signature campaign is the easiest way to earn bitcoins the only thing you need is to spend some time on regular basis and the best thing is that the price is moving in upwards direction so even the earnings from campaign can give us descent amount of income which is not possible with any other part time or extra job.

This is also happen to me and most of my friends that joining bounty. From that we can take a point that this is happened because we're truly againts or violating Twitter Rules, as per Twitter Support said. We are just simply retweeting a tons of tweet in every single day/week, so Twitter could be assumed that our account just like fake/bots.

Although I have not found a single Bitcoin address that could be verified before 2017, I am sure the account has changed hands.

[TheGreatPython]

@nutildah,

How this picture proves that I am new to above topics?

You have NOT still answered about what you are proving by including the above picture of my favourite topics in last 120 days?

[nutildah]

@nutildah,

How this picture proves that I am new to above topics?

You have NOT still answered about what you are proving by including the above picture of my favourite topics in last 120 days?

You removed the part where I explain why I included it:

OK, I just have a hard time believing that someone with a 2013 account would all the sudden participate in spam discussions about gambling & start posting in the Pakistan thread for the first time.

I get it: you've owned this account for a while and are surprised that its getting tagged just not (even if just neutral tag), but I do not at all believe you are its original owner.

[JollyGood]

I do not know, maybe he intended to add ~kro55 but forgot the tilde?

I did not check for the potential second change of ownership in June 2021 but there is definitely something suspicious here because the 2015 to 2017 gap still seems to be the original owner. The next gap between 2017 to 2019 and the immediate post of staking the address, that post does not seem to be made by the original owner.

One of the things I remember about the borovichok account had in his favour as a defence was the staking of a new address from by signing an old address somehow proved he was the original owner. Eventually he abandoned that account after multiple tags (and no doubt uses others here) but the point I think is that is how some sales take place therefore if the seller staked an address in the past they have to sign a message or give the private key as part of the deal for the new owner.

In this case, I do not think the original owner staked an address therefore if the account was not sold it could possibly have been hacked but either way it does not seem to be operated by the original owner.

Combining this with the last post as it hasn't been 24 hours yet and I don't want to forget about it.

kro55

First off, I don't understand why Igebotz would add this user to their trust list as they haven't left any feedback.

Original owner's last post was in Dec 2017; prior to that it was Aug 2015.

The first thing the second owner did - in Sep 2019 - was stake a Bitcoin address which was never used on the forum before or after.

The account seems to have changed hands again in Jun 2021, as there was a 1+ year posting gap since May 2020. BPIP data corroborates these potential changes in ownership:



They also received a merit from this user which I want to remember to take a look at later. (2nd edit: seems to belong to the original account creator)

[TheGreatPython]

I get it: you've owned this account for a while and are surprised that its getting tagged just not (even if just neutral tag), but I do not at all believe you are its original owner.

Because, when something is NOT TRUE, why should I bear that?

OK, I just have a hard time believing that someone with a 2013 account would all the sudden participate in spam discussions about gambling & start posting in the Pakistan thread for the first time.

1. Yes, I signed up in 2013
2. I have been participating in gambling for a long time but not sure why you STATE "all of sudden" regarding this.
3. Yes, started posting in Pak local board recently; no rule or no DT practice prevents that AFAIK.
(Please note I am not switching from one local board to another but only from English boards to one local board)

Now, please tell me what are you proving by my last 120 days activity.



I feel like my case in this topic is going 1 to 1 for a long time. Usually I do see lots of people do state their opinion in all other topics but here I feel like I am talking with @nutildah in PM.

[nutildah]

1. Yes, I signed up in 2013
2. I have been participating in gambling for a long time but not sure why you STATE "all of sudden" regarding this.
3. Yes, started posting in Pak local board recently; no rule or no DT practice prevents that AFAIK.
(Please note I am not switching from one local board to another but only from English boards to one local board)

Now, please tell me what are you proving by my last 120 days activity.

Its just a neutral tag. You don't earn a lot of merits because your posts are bad, and that's probably the real reason why you're not in any campaign. I'm gonna guess your posts are bad because you operate several accounts simultaneously & you churn out the bare minimum to meet campaign requirements.

Having said that, I will delete the neutral tag on the basis that account trading wasn't really frowned upon at the time you acquired the account.

[lovesmayfamilis]

martinex

The account owner changed. Registered March 22, 2014, 05:39:34 PM
The original account owner wrote in the Chinese local section. Posts stopped in 2016. All posts in Chinese are deleted by the new owner who bought or hacked the account.

https://ninjastic.space/search?author=martinex&board=119
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=martinex&board=118

There are also some early posts from 2017 to 2021. There are not many of them. Probably the account was trading and was not active during this time.

After that, in 2023, posts start in the Indonesian local section and English.
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=martinex

[Smartvirus]

Considerably the account selling business is one that has been viewed as legal on the forum and most of it is due to the fact that, there isn’t an actual proof that, the accounts did change hands except for cases where we have some obvious strains on how this is been done on wake up accounts which is;
Email and password resets,
Change in posting style,
Local board participation and
Boards in which such account is known to frequent.

How about, having to attack this form of behavior by seeking out the goals for which the accounts are meant to seek! I’ll explain;

Most of the bought accounts are known to always be geared towards signatures and loans. It’s the orientation that can ever exists for these bought accounts and there is a way to actually tackle that by attacking it’s goals. Perhaps an implementation into the rules of the forum by disorientating the goals. Maybe not the loans as it is in fact largely based on the persons offering these loans but by default as a means to tackle account sales;

Can’t we have a function that actually gives you a signature ban after haven’t been inactive on the forum for over a year, where the ban can apply for half-life of your absentee?
Where the ban serves as a time to learn what have changed in the days of your absence on the forum should you have claims to be the original owner.

It would be a half life system, Where;
X = Time out (months)
2 = Divisor to determine half life sig ban.
We could use 12months (1year) as the most basic.

Haven’t been out for a year,
You get a 12/2 = 6months sig ban.
Absent for 2years and you get a 24/2 = 12 months signature ban.
You were absent for a year, you get a 6months signature ban.

This would in turn have a direct effect on buying of old accounts and I doubt there are active users of the forum that would sell there accounts. The most I’ve seen care so much of there reputation and like to keep things that away, in the likes of Lauda and Leo, although the case of Leo was an ill fated situation but, it’s credible how Leo handled it and I get emotional just writing about Leo but, it’s the idea am hoping you all get.

If this half life sig ban becomes the case, activated by default, it would directly undermine buying of old accounts.

[JollyGood]

I tagged the account with neutral feedback just as you did. They also have an account with another forum therefore it is safe to assume this is all about signature campaigns. When accounts are traded, what are the chances it will be limited to just a single account rather than it being one of many trades to add to the account farm portfolio? There could be much more.

martinex

The account owner changed. Registered March 22, 2014, 05:39:34 PM
The original account owner wrote in the Chinese local section. Posts stopped in 2016. All posts in Chinese are deleted by the new owner who bought or hacked the account.

[TheGreatPython]

@JollyGood,

I signed a message here against OP's doubt..

Please remove your tag.... (Also send you PM).


@nutildah (OP),

I like to suggest you about keep updating open-post of this topic with the list of cases investigated here along with final conclusion.

[JollyGood]

I received the PM and noted the post here. I saw the address from 2016 in that post and the message you signed therefore I will revise (not remove) the tag. I have a couple of questions I hope you do not mind answering even though they are direct and to the point and even though I think I know what you will answer, nevertheless:

Are you the person that created/registered the TheGreatPython account?
Did the account ever change hands either for money or any other purpose?

@JollyGood,

I signed a message here against OP' doubt..

Please remove your tag.... (Also send you PM).

[TheGreatPython]

Are you the person that created/registered the TheGreatPython account?
Did the account ever change hands either for money or any other purpose?

What led you to ask these? I am sure that you need to clarify why you are asking these....

I mean, if you find anything for change of ownership, I am ready to answer for those.

In other words, @nutildah found that beer post and cooked their own story against my recent local board posting. That beer post was from 2021, so I needed to sign with any date before 2021. If you are concerned about before 2016, you need yours.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I feel like my case in this topic is going 1 to 1 for a long time. Usually I do see lots of people do state their opinion in all other topics but here I feel like I am talking with @nutildah in PM.

Well, now it's caught the attention of someone who needs time to remove their tags . And while TheGreatPython has already removed one neutral tag, ironically a new one has appeared. TheGreatPython, having someone's name in the reputation section very often results in people getting many more tags instead of just one.

I received the PM and noted the post here. I saw the address from 2016 in that post and the message you signed therefore I will revise (not remove) the tag. I have a couple of questions I hope you do not mind answering even though they are direct and to the point and even though I think I know what you will answer, nevertheless:

edit:

TheGreatPython, this address is interesting. 1NGeVpgunUA1JuzNNddtceYHqYCfPaZBXT
It still has bitcoins.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1NGeVpgunUA1JuzNNddtceYHqYCfPaZBXT

Can you sign the address from it?

And isn't this what you meant when you suggested creating places in the signature of companies for those who haven't spent their bitcoins for a long time?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5510125.0

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=1NGeVpgunUA1JuzNNddtceYHqYCfPaZBXT

[TheGreatPython]

Well, now it's caught the attention of someone who needs time to remove their tags . And while TheGreatPython has already removed one neutral tag, ironically a new one has appeared. TheGreatPython, having someone's name in the reputation section very often results in people getting many more tags instead of just one.

You are the one who frequents this topic but you are too busy on checking everyone's post history rather stating your opinion into an on-going conversation.

I meant this initiative of fighting against account trade should not be based on individual's decision rather it should be a community driven. It means everyone's opinion matters and should be counted.

In summary, when more people participate in an initiative, then the errors will be very little.

[JollyGood]

By you not answering those questions it is your prerogative but your refusal is unrelated to the neutral feedback as it was placed beforehand. No part of the neutral feedback that I left you is factually incorrect. In fact that is exactly what happened:

After being questioned about whether the "TheGreatPython" account was being controlled/operated by the original creator, he signed a message purporting to show ownership

After your earlier comment in this thread (in your opinion) turning in to a PM between you and nutildah, I would like to not engage in an elongated process but if can you satisfactorily explain why the neutral tag is a problem for you or which part of it is incorrect, I will revisit it.

Are you the person that created/registered the TheGreatPython account?
Did the account ever change hands either for money or any other purpose?

What led you to ask these? I am sure that you need to clarify why you are asking these....

I mean, if you find anything for change of ownership, I am ready to answer for those.

In other words, @nutildah found that beer post and cooked their own story against my recent local board posting. That beer post was from 2021, so I needed to sign with any date before 2021. If you are concerned about before 2016, you need yours.

[TheGreatPython]

After being questioned about whether the "TheGreatPython" account was being controlled/operated by the original creator, he signed a message purporting to show ownership

I am not convinced with your term purport in my reputation page. For revising this, what should I need to do.