Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded

[nutildah]

For years I've noticed that a common theme among account farmers is to use their bounty/campaign earnings to buy aged accounts.

While I personally don't red tag bought accounts, I'm not against it so long as there is ample proof the account has changed hands. Instead, this is a thread for neutral tags in cases where it seems highly likely that the current owner and original owner are different.

Why do this? Mainly because when someone uses a bought account, it gives the impression that the accomplishments of somebody else are their own. Its a misrepresentation of one's own capabilities, accomplishments, and/or standing.

How to do this? Here's my main criteria:

• Long posting gap (1 or more years)
• Noticeable change in writing style
• Quickly joins sig campaign or bounty
• Change in posting habits (places, frequency, etc.)
• No cryptographic proof owner is the original

For instance, while investigating what I believe is a firmly-entrenched alt farm, I came across this account:

cozytrade - registered Dec 15, 2013

It already has a neutral feedback from JollyGood:

JollyGood

2022-12-17

Reference

Serious accusations have been made of this account either being sold or changing hands. I would advise to take precautions when dealing with "cozytrade". I will revise/modify the feedback if any compelling information is presented.

This account actually changed hands twice; once between 2018-2022 and once between 2016-2017. The original owner is from the US, then suddenly started speaking fluent Filipino in 2017, then went to using a broken English -- when they're not translating bland sports newsbytes (or so it seems):

Dambulla Sixers vs Galle Marvels 12th match started today at Rangiri Dambulla International Stadium, Dambulla. Dambulla Sixers team came out to bat. Dambulla Sixers team scored 160 runs in 20 overs. Dambulla Sixers team batsman Chamindu Wickramasinghe scored 56 runs off 34 balls. Reeza  Hendricks was dismissed for 16 off 13 balls.Kusal Perera was dismissed for 17 off 12 balls.

Then we have this account:

GigaBit - registered December 21, 2013

This is one of the more ridiculous transformations I've seen:



I mean, do I really have to say anything else here? Same thing as before: the account goes from masterful use of the English language (the new owner never changed the original location of Ontario, Canada) to posting once again drivel in mediocre English in the Gambling board:

KYC is recommended in almost every casino. Some casino sites it is done before betting and on some sites it can be done without kyc. But I think it is better for the gambler to complete KYC to conduct smooth betting. If KYC is not a problem for a gambler who bets small amounts, KYC should be done for big gamblers who gamble a lot otherwise there may be problem. If KYC is shared in terms and conditions then it must be completed prior to gambling. Many people neglect this, but if you get a big win, there may be a problem with the money of that win. So it is better to do KYC to avoid such problems.

From now on I will write a reference in this thread when neutral tagging an account I suspect of being hacked/traded. You can feel free to use it for your own tags, so long as at least the 1st two items in the criteria list are met. I'm against issuing red trust solely based on these criteria, however.

[nutildah]

Here's another one I saw today, merit hunting in the WO thread. They're also participating in merit contests while writing drivel on the Gambling board & elsewhere.

Glen Hoddle

The account appears to have been sold in May 2024.



Secondly, their level of English goes from this:

Myckel, Myckel, Myckel. Dear oh dear. Why do you spend so much time FUDding Gulden when you should have more important things to do.

If I was an Auroracoin bagholder I wouldn't be too impressed that the Auroracoin team spends so much time spreading shite on here about Gulden.

Let's have a history lesson. History is important. That's what my old history teacher told me. He was a naturist in his spare time and died of a massive heart attack one morning before our lesson on Archduke Franz Ferdinand, but I digress.

A few years ago BioMike (Myckel Habets) and some of his friends, including fellow Auroracoin team member Martin Jansen tried to take over Gulden as they realised what a great idea it was and were devastated that they hadn't come up with it thenselves. They were active in the community at first and everything was going ok until they felt entitled as they were holding lots of coins.

Rijk quite rightly told them to fuck off. This collection of spoilt children clubbed together and put over 30 million coins on Bittrex for sale at 1680 sats. This was back when the price was around 400 sats (Although Myckel and his buddies pumped it briefly before this event).

Rijk didn't care. He's more interested in developing Gulden than playing to the gallery. He's more interested in furthering blockchain technology and use.
...

to this:

Bitcoin price is currently improving and will continue to improve, starting pumping this July. Because the bull run in 2025 will show signs of Bitcoin price corruption from now on. But the price of Bitcoin will definitely reach the highest level, and create an all-time high that will be recorded in history. A sign of the dumping of this Bitcoin price is that the government of the USA transferred assets equivalent to 240 million dollars by selling the coins.  

That is why currently Bitcoin has been dumping a lot in June which has touched 60 thousand dollars from 70 thousand dollars. And again, this is a great opportunity for investors, so there are currently signs that the price of Bitcoin will reach its maximum target this July.

Seems like this is a case of an email expiring & somebody recovering the account with a re-registered email address. There's no way this account belongs to the original owner. These kind of accounts give themselves away every time.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well nutildah, you know I do hand out red tags any time I come across accounts that have changed hands, and I've never thought a neutral was enough--but of course I realize this has always been a controversial position, and I respect everyone's opinion on how to handle people who've bought, sold, or hacked accounts.

I'll have a look at the accounts here and then will probably whip out the spray gun.  There's nothing good about members buying or selling accounts, and the potential for some serious wrongdoing is huge (and I know you know this).  Thanks for creating this thread, bro.  I don't go sniffing these idiots out anymore, but damned if I'll ignore them when they're served to me on a plate.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I'll have a look at the accounts here and then will probably whip out the spray gun.  There's nothing good about members buying or selling accounts, and the potential for some serious wrongdoing is huge (and I know you know this).  Thanks for creating this thread, bro.  I don't go sniffing these idiots out anymore, but damned if I'll ignore them when they're served to me on a plate.

In that case, here's another account that is clearly not the owner. Read the reference link. He says he just found out about the forum, but he already has the rank of Sr. Member.

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=149464

A friend actually told me about this forum,and how he makes posts here to earn money,I though it was a joke at first,untill I joined the community and started making post,I'm not in a campaign,but I know it's isn't a rush,it's something that has to be taken gradually,very soon,I will enter into one and starts gearninng through a signature campaign.This is not the only thing that attracted me,making investments,how to trade and how to sell and buy a coin was one of the things that pushed me to be a part of the community,and I've never regretted being one.

the owner of the account was a miner

Setup had already paid it's self early this year from now on is fun and pleasure of mining

When the 100 arrives then 2000$ extra a month is not bad 

[Smartvirus]

Well nutildah, you know I do hand out red tags any time I come across accounts that have changed hands, and I've never thought a neutral was enough--but of course I realize this has always been a controversial position, and I respect everyone's opinion on how to handle people who've bought, sold, or hacked accounts.

I don’t find red tagging accounts that have changed hands to be out of place. It’s more like, having to inherit a certificate which can’t be done.
Your account is a representation of your physical equivalent, just on the forum and so, you can’t have 2 persona behind an account. There isn’t a then and now when you aren’t the same person.
Of course the case might be different when it is a company account (casinos, sportsbook, exchanges and what have you). When it’s an individual account, it just shouldn’t be and as such, tagging isn’t out of place.

[Despairo]

I don’t find red tagging accounts that have changed hands to be out of place.

If you think changed hands deserve to be painted, then do it by yourself. Otherwise, you're contradict what you said.

Of course the case might be different when it is a company account (casinos, sportsbook, exchanges and what have you).

That's your opinion, other users think different, they view having company account and individual account are same, it belong to the same person who operate it. So in case one of them scam or did something wrong, both of them receive the same consequence.

[Ambatman]

I'll have a look at the accounts here and then will probably whip out the spray gun.  There's nothing good about members buying or selling accounts, and the potential for some serious wrongdoing is huge (and I know you know this).  Thanks for creating this thread, bro.  I don't go sniffing these idiots out anymore, but damned if I'll ignore them when they're served to me on a plate.

In that case, here's another account that is clearly not the owner. Read the reference link. He says he just found out about the forum, but he already has the rank of Sr. Member.

The original owner was quite frequent in the Hardware Board
While the current first post was on the Altcoin discussion Board and very active in the gambling board.
 There's a huge disparity in English not to mention this
password reset via email before waking up.

[nutildah]

Here's another one that's seemingly gone unnoticed for too long:

TheGreatPython

Account created Oct 2013, primarily used to take part in giveaways, contests & then signature campaigns, so its always been a shitposting account of sorts.

Posting gaps:

May 2014 - Oct 2015
Dec 2015 - Apr 2016
Jan 2017 - Jun 2017
Oct 2023 - Feb 2024

Seems to have been owned by the same person from Jun 2017 - Nov 2020, and possibly still belongs to that owner, as there are no BPIP seclog entries. However, the account first started posting in the Pakistan thread in July 2024, while Nov 2022, they were claiming to drink beer and eat pizza, something I don't think anybody in Pakistan actually does (alcohol being forbidden for the Muslim majority).

For example beer is bad for you, it is not healthy and if you drink too much beer for too long you will die, that is a known fact but its legal and you can buy it and drink it if you want, for a world where many drugs are bad for you and illegal, for some reason things like beer and cigarettes are allowed.

Only 3% of Pakistan's population is allowed to buy beer. Not saying that its not possible to get beer there, but its definitely not "allowed" for most people.

Anyway, this account appears to have changed hands at least twice given the posting gaps.

[examplens]

Seems to have been owned by the same person from Jun 2017 - Nov 2020, and possibly still belongs to that owner, as there are no BPIP seclog entries. However, the account first started posting in the Pakistan thread in July 2024, while Nov 2022, they were claiming to drink beer and eat pizza, something I don't think anybody in Pakistan actually does (alcohol being forbidden for the Muslim majority).

For example beer is bad for you, it is not healthy and if you drink too much beer for too long you will die, that is a known fact but its legal and you can buy it and drink it if you want, for a world where many drugs are bad for you and illegal, for some reason things like beer and cigarettes are allowed.

Oh man, there's no way I'd ever pay attention to things like this. 
Anyway, good catch.

[dkbit98]

Seems to have been owned by the same person from Jun 2017 - Nov 2020, and possibly still belongs to that owner, as there are no BPIP seclog entries. However, the account first started posting in the Pakistan thread in July 2024, while Nov 2022, they were claiming to drink beer and eat pizza, something I don't think anybody in Pakistan actually does (alcohol being forbidden for the Muslim majority).

They also have death penalty for rape in Pakistan, yet there are many cases of rape recorded all the time, especially with women from foreign countries.
I don't think his beer post is enough to claim account was hacked, and he surely watched a bunch of american movies with people eating pizza and drinking beer.

[nutildah]

I don't think his beer post is enough to claim account was hacked, and he surely watched a bunch of american movies with people eating pizza and drinking beer.

You're right, its not enough, its just anecdotal evidence that supports my claim. And you could be right. People will say anything sometimes.

[Shishir99]

Look how Ivugeo coin/exchange representative turned into a shitposter.

This was the last post made by the original owner,

Hi guys,

IvugeoPool is now working again and IEC will be soon re-enabled on Bittrex, rebirth of our eshop and other news are comming soon

Three years later he woke up and this is his 2nd post

Bitcointalk name: IvugeoEvolutionCoin
Rank: Snr Member
Current post count: 383

The English they spoke before;

Hi guys, IEC is comming back i've tried yesterday to set up NOMP/uNOMP pool again yesterday but unexpected error appeard - https://github.com/UNOMP/unified-node-open-mining-portal/issues/100 .. Is someone able to tell me where can be error ?
Also new source for IEC will be relased soon(regarding to this i will announce new info as soon as i will have working new source beacause we will need to do swap beacause of so much frozen and lost coins) along with new shop with gold products available only for IEC

and now

The 3rd Test match of England vs Sri Lanka team has started. England team has come to the field to bat. I am waiting to see how well the batsmen of England team can bat in the 3rd Test match. If Sri Lanka team can bowl well in the bowling line, maybe England team will score a lot of runs Can't. Which team will win depends on the bowling and batting of the two teams.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Look how Ivugeo coin/exchange representative turned into a shitposter.

You are right. The first owner spoke Russian. There are several posts in the Russian section.
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=IvugeoEvolutionCoin&board=72

But something else is interesting. The account you found has several more that can be grouped by the Telegram nickname.
https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Telegram%20Username%3A%20Nicholasogbu

One first appeared in 2018, but it was not profitable to deal with a newbie account for the bounty and the company signature, and the user bought an account with a high rank.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2403313
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2403310

He is very active in changing passwords and emails.
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=505918

In the same way, you can find a Telegram contact for another account that also has a negative tag for buying an account.

https://ninjastic.space/post/51725767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=18587

I will leave the tag.

[JollyGood]

One of the other things I have noticed is the number of accounts that are participating in a freebie signature campaign. Clearly this does not apply to all of those participating because many were on campaigns before they shutdown leaving them waiting for another opportunity to apply but many of the dubious accounts are hoping to be next in line when the same campaign manager has slots open on a paying campaign.

Whether those very many accounts (some that you alluded to) have been either hacked or traded, I think the modus operandi of the puppeteer controlling the accounts is to attempt to come across as a genuine member with the ultimate motive being to enrol another farmed account on to a campaign.

For years I've noticed that a common theme among account farmers is to use their bounty/campaign earnings to buy aged accounts.

[TheGreatPython]

No cryptographic proof owner is the original

I guess I still have the access to the addys posted in my early days to sign a message.

Anyway, this account appears to have changed hands at least twice given the posting gaps.

Gaps in my posting history happened due to multiple reasons like exams or health reasons. But this is first time, I learn that gaps in posts prove the "change of ownership".

Only 3% of Pakistan's population is allowed to buy beer. Not saying that its not possible to get beer there, but its definitely not "allowed" for most people.

You are contracting yourself and not considering about the people who move out for studying or for job to Dubai or Europe.

[Lafu]

No cryptographic proof owner is the original

I guess I still have the access to the addys posted in my early days to sign a message.

I would say then show everybody that we are wrong and you are right for sign a message via one of the old addresses you posted.
Saddly your Account is a very old one and you still missed to post in the Stake your Bitcoin address here

1JvUpZkXynDUhsqBEFLukEi2TCS7meKmfF
1FjTWnJP1BwLh9aJqqKuJKCNzypo4Cu52F
12DPg31ahx3RVcUEzAizdY3opxTSJuWpnM
1NGeVpgunUA1JuzNNddtceYHqYCfPaZBXT
1P6TDeBp7s4Ua95R4ABgzffyKLRaBgMQY2
bc1qswf0jz75luycwde46zz2zfrf9jm63zzmfw94j0

If you can make a message from you oldest one i guess that would be fine.

[TheGreatPython]

If you can make a message from you oldest one i guess that would be fine.

Thank you, for the head up.


-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi, I am TheGreatPython from bitcointalk.org and today is September 10, 2024. I am signing this message to prove the ownership of my account against the topic=5506921. Thank you.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1FjTWnJP1BwLh9aJqqKuJKCNzypo4Cu52F
IF5Uw1z86VjKvFCWtliHsiTRGHjn55m+lgtSY38Xi/oVRzmyZ1e37FtQCjJIgygUrLYduW1usFfszFpNpApzTec=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Here is the unedited post where I posted that address:

1FjTWnJP1BwLh9aJqqKuJKCNzypo4Cu52F

[Shishir99]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi, I am TheGreatPython from bitcointalk.org and today is September 10, 2024. I am signing this message to prove the ownership of my account against the topic=5506921. Thank you.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1FjTWnJP1BwLh9aJqqKuJKCNzypo4Cu52F
IF5Uw1z86VjKvFCWtliHsiTRGHjn55m+lgtSY38Xi/oVRzmyZ1e37FtQCjJIgygUrLYduW1usFfszFpNpApzTec=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Here is the unedited post where I posted that address:

1FjTWnJP1BwLh9aJqqKuJKCNzypo4Cu52F

The signature has been verified. Thank you for clearing the confusion.

[nutildah]

Here is the unedited post where I posted that address:

1FjTWnJP1BwLh9aJqqKuJKCNzypo4Cu52F

Any chance you can sign a message from this address?

1JvUpZkXynDUhsqBEFLukEi2TCS7meKmfF

[TheGreatPython]

Any chance you can sign a message from this address?

1JvUpZkXynDUhsqBEFLukEi2TCS7meKmfF

No, this addy was from cryptsy exchange.