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August 22, 2024, 01:56:43 PM
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A couple days ago Ukraine voted to ban the Orthodox Church. The ban only needs to be signeed by Ukraine president Zelensky to come into effect. The reason provided is that the Orthodox Church is considered associated with Russia.

Some believe "emergencies" allow human rights and freedoms to be canceled, while other people believe an emergency is a time where human rights are more important than ever because that is when tyrants and dictators try to take them away.

Source: https://www.barrons.com/articles/ukraine-mps-vote-to-ban-russia-linked-orthodox-church-ffcbb8a8

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August 22, 2024, 03:41:49 PM
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I have yet to crossexamine this information and whether it is true Ukraine is banning a whole branch of Christianism from their country, but it could be possible they are talking about banning specific organizations linked to the orthodox churches in Russia, rather than banning a whole religion. Needless to say, it would be unconstitutional within any actual democracy to ban a religion to mess with the right of people to worship God.  
With the huge amount of misinformation and propaganda going on the internet, it is almost impossible for me to know whether something it is true without getting out of my way and check with on several media outlets. I don't trust corporate media completely either, they are rather resonance boxes for their own talking points and narratives...

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August 22, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
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If Ukraine, bans the Orthodox church in their country for political reasons what will then happen to the Orthodox religious in their country? Will they have their own version of the church in Ukraine, with the same liturgy or they will change it? These are some of the critical questions that the Ukrainian government will need to find solutions to because religion is a sensitive matter and it's not easy to dictate to people regarding their religious believes. It's easier if it's the Orthodox church in Ukraine, that wants to pull out from their Russian spiritual leadership than for the government to tell them to do so. I hope that the government and the local Orthodox church in Ukraine, will reach an agreement that will benefit the church and country.











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August 22, 2024, 05:08:07 PM
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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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August 22, 2024, 06:48:51 PM
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A couple days ago Ukraine voted to ban the Orthodox Church.

OP, did you read the article you're referring to? They voted to ban the UOC, which is subordinate to the Moscow Patriarchate, not to ban the entire Orthodox Church.

In a session of the Verkhovna Rada on Tuesday, 265 MPs voted to approve a bill outlawing religious organisations linked with Russia, including the Russia-linked Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC), which is linked to the Moscow patriarchate, several MPs reported.

OP, before you write such nonsense study the material you are referring to. Because of people like you fakes are born like this.

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August 22, 2024, 08:55:12 PM
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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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Politics, War, and Religion are siblings anyway, so no surprise at all. All are born or thrive on blood and the suffering of the less privileged and vulnerable, so I couldn't care about them banning a religion or, not.

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August 23, 2024, 01:08:42 PM
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A couple days ago Ukraine voted to ban the Orthodox Church.

OP, did you read the article you're referring to? They voted to ban the UOC, which is subordinate to the Moscow Patriarchate, not to ban the entire Orthodox Church.

In a session of the Verkhovna Rada on Tuesday, 265 MPs voted to approve a bill outlawing religious organisations linked with Russia, including the Russia-linked Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC), which is linked to the Moscow patriarchate, several MPs reported.

OP, before you write such nonsense study the material you are referring to. Because of people like you fakes are born like this.
The headline is accurate. Your comments are quite an arrogant and rude, and should instead respect others. Above all your post is condescending, which even if someone posts a totally inaccurate story, we don't need that.

While its true not ALL of the Orthodox Churches (plural) are banned, it is true that some of them are banned by the law. I disagree that the headline is inaccurate.

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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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you know one thing with this isreal bombardment and most religious folks stand on the side of Israel is due to the way Christian mainly look at Israel as God's own country that shouldn't be tampered with wich somehow will always seems they are against Ukraine in this context of war whenever they make any sort of statement or action that portrays something close to that. If it's just a ban on a particular Orthodox church like what the articulate says, then they can afford to do it and it will be possible but if it's an agenda to ban the whole of orthodox church or Christians entirely, then they're certainly baint in failing.

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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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A couple days ago Ukraine voted to ban the Orthodox Church. The ban only needs to be signeed by Ukraine president Zelensky to come into effect. The reason provided is that the Orthodox Church is considered associated with Russia.

Some believe "emergencies" allow human rights and freedoms to be canceled, while other people believe an emergency is a time where human rights are more important than ever because that is when tyrants and dictators try to take them away.

Source: https://www.barrons.com/articles/ukraine-mps-vote-to-ban-russia-linked-orthodox-church-ffcbb8a8

Complete list of our civic freedoms is detailed on p.83 of the free book "Rainbow Rock" in the "Civic Freedoms" section: https://bitbucket.org/metanexom/rainbow-road/downloads/RainbowRock_2024Jun.pdf

It is associated with Ruzzia, more precisely supporting the war and Putin's government. It is such a hypocrite comment that is no wonder comming from a newby. I think it should have been banned much earlier, simply because you cannot have a espionage network working in your backyard  when your country is fighting for survival. There is no doubt in my mind that they would give away army positions, movements, people...




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On a side note, I believe it is needless to say that no religion which has a minimum of affiliation with Christianism is supposed to call for the destruction, invasion and the killing or foreigner civilians. That is when the relationship between the Russian orthodox chruch comes in with their close relstion to Putin's Kremlin.
I even recall one of the maximum authorities of that Russian chruch to try to justify the killing of Ukrainians and the destruction of their homes, because alledgedly Ukraine was the home of demons and progressive politics... One must wonder, what would Jesus would think of those warmongers who keep a façade of peacemakers and use the name of Christ to fuel hate....

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The headline is accurate.

You are deliberately misrepresenting information. That's what propagandists and fake creators do. Even following the link you provided we will see a completely different headline.

Ukraine MPs Vote To Ban Russia-linked Orthodox Church

Your comments are quite an arrogant and rude, and should instead respect others. Above all your post is condescending, which even if someone posts a totally inaccurate story, we don't need that.

Classic commentary from a propagandist )) If they have nothing to say on the topic, they go straight to personalities.

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A couple days ago Ukraine voted to ban the Orthodox Church. The ban only needs to be signeed by Ukraine president Zelensky to come into effect. The reason provided is that the Orthodox Church is considered associated with Russia.

There is nothing wrong with cutting ties with the Russian Orthodox Church by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. In fact, this ban is long overdue. It's is obvious that both religious bodies don't have similar beliefs since the ROC is supporting the war. It is common to see these ROC priests blessing soldiers leaving for the battlefield. A long time ago, the Anglican Church leadership in my country decided to cut ties with the Anglican Church of England because the former is against blessing of gay couples in the church. After all, it is on record that 90% of Christian bodies in Ukraine welcomed the ban.You don't force people to accept your ideology.

On a side note, I believe it is needless to say that no religion which has a minimum of affiliation with Christianism is supposed to call for the destruction, invasion and the killing or foreigner civilians. That is when the relationship between the Russian orthodox chruch comes in with their close relstion to Putin's Kremlin.
I even recall one of the maximum authorities of that Russian chruch to try to justify the killing of Ukrainians and the destruction of their homes, because alledgedly Ukraine was the home of demons and progressive politics... One must wonder, what would Jesus would think of those warmongers who keep a façade of peacemakers and use the name of Christ to fuel hate....

You wouldn't blame some of the leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church for supporting the war. There have been news of top politicians or businessmen who spoke against Putin disappearing without a trace. Some were murdered or banished from Russia. While others committed suicide or put in jail. These religious leaders are afraid because they and their family members might become targets of the Russian government. It is possible they are forced or under pressure to support the war.

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I'm actually surprised that's only happening now - 2.5 years after beginning of war. Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine is place where number of collaborators (actively acting and potential ones) who are working in favour of Russia is simply huge. How such organization which is working against interest of Ukraines and acting in favour ofenemy can be allowed.
You can say don't mix religion and politics, but c'mon. Head of Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill is actively supporting Russian invasion.

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Its also so strange that the orthodox did never join any crusade in the past. The first one they join is against ukraine...
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With the huge amount of misinformation and propaganda going on the internet, it is almost impossible for me to know whether something it is true without getting out of my way and check with on several media outlets. I don't trust corporate media completely either, they are rather resonance boxes for their own talking points and narratives...

This touch me most as all Factor in your statement is more of reality, quick to believe post if any news or link without additional research or sources is doing more harm than good to any who is do such in our generation many have made themselves tool to promote or carrier of propaganda, it take person with sense of details to identify real and fake in or society or world today, to be free from cheap prey to fake news follow your statement that speak volume in me heart is a strong tool to escape been a victim of fake news Carrier.
In my opinion if Ukraine did such which I have not confirmed it will make them have internal religious issue that will act as showdown members in the country or society which will be very difficult for them to fight because when you take away some some citizens right you have created enemity to those whose religion is allow to them whose own is banned, you can only achieve peace by creating strict rule to guide the system but the banned will be if harm instead of good.
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The headline is accurate.

You are deliberately misrepresenting information. That's what propagandists and fake creators do. Even following the link you provided we will see a completely different headline.

Ukraine MPs Vote To Ban Russia-linked Orthodox Church

Your comments are quite an arrogant and rude, and should instead respect others. Above all your post is condescending, which even if someone posts a totally inaccurate story, we don't need that.

Classic commentary from a propagandist )) If they have nothing to say on the topic, they go straight to personalities.
While I have an easy time believing you think an Orthodox Church isn't being banned in Ukraine because people can be wrong, I can't fathom you believe I don't think so. You can only know my ("deliberate") intentions by reading my mind... are you telepathic to where any random person on the internet you know their inner thoughts?

The fact remains that "Orthodox Church banned in Ukraine", and more specifically one or more Orthodox Church church(es) banned in Ukraine. Would you be happy with that statement "One or more Orthadox Church church(es) banned in Ukraine"? Or do you also think that is misinformation? Unlike you I don't imply the ability to read other people's minds to know their deliberations and intentions.

You very clearly brought up my personality first by saying "Because of people like you fakes are born like this.". And rather than being respectful, you continue to be rude and disrespectful by speculating disgusting things about my intentions behind the post.

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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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Politics, War, and Religion are siblings anyway, so no surprise at all. All are born or thrive on blood and the suffering of the less privileged and vulnerable, so I couldn't care about them banning a religion or, not.

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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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you know one thing with this isreal bombardment and most religious folks stand on the side of Israel is due to the way Christian mainly look at Israel as God's own country that shouldn't be tampered with wich somehow will always seems they are against Ukraine in this context of war whenever they make any sort of statement or action that portrays something close to that. If it's just a ban on a particular Orthodox church like what the articulate says, then they can afford to do it and it will be possible but if it's an agenda to ban the whole of orthodox church or Christians entirely, then they're certainly baint in failing.

Unfortunately People simply look at a name. I could talk all day like I am an Israeli, but would it be true?

The Israel of today is not the Ancient Israel of God from before the Babylonian captivity. And it certainly isn't the Israel of God at the time of Jesus. Why not? Because they rejected God, and the last time they did it - by rejecting Jesus - God made it almost permanent... in 70 AD when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem.

Only if the people of Israel humbly accept Jesus will God possibly make them part of His people again. Meanwhile, anybody else who accepts Jesus as their Savior is accepted into the TRUE and REAL Israel of God, the Heavenly Israel.

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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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I hope this answers your prayers, oh ye men of little faith.




A couple days ago Ukraine voted to ban the Orthodox Church. The ban only needs to be signeed by Ukraine president Zelensky to come into effect. The reason provided is that the Orthodox Church is considered associated with Russia.

Some believe "emergencies" allow human rights and freedoms to be canceled, while other people believe an emergency is a time where human rights are more important than ever because that is when tyrants and dictators try to take them away.

Source: https://www.barrons.com/articles/ukraine-mps-vote-to-ban-russia-linked-orthodox-church-ffcbb8a8

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It is associated with Ruzzia, more precisely supporting the war and Putin's government. It is such a hypocrite comment that is no wonder comming from a newby. I think it should have been banned much earlier, simply because you cannot have a espionage network working in your backyard  when your country is fighting for survival. There is no doubt in my mind that they would give away army positions, movements, people...




It all depends on how much time you want to spend considering this subject, and where you want to look.


Orthodox Church blasts Ukraine for passing legislation suppressing any religion with historical links to Russia



https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-08-28-kyiv-bans-orthodox-any-religion-linked-to-russia.html
The Ukrainian parliament recently passed a bill that would grant the government the right to ban any church or religious community with suspected ties to Russia. This did not sit well with the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) as it compared the measure to Soviet-style repression.

Around 265 Ukrainian lawmakers on Aug. 20 passed the said legislation, saying that a government commission will assemble a list of "affiliated" organizations whose activities are not allowed.

The said law also outright bans the ROC and all affiliated religious institutions from operating in Ukraine. This paves the way for a historic rupture with an institution that Kyiv has accused of complicity in Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, the ROC said in a statement. (Related: Ukrainian parliament approves law BANNING the country’s biggest Orthodox church.)

This was also seen by the religious sector as directly targeted against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC). Despite the UOC officially declaring full autonomy from the Moscow Patriarchate in 2022, Kyiv has repeatedly accused the church and its clergy of maintaining ties to Moscow.

"The purpose of this law is to liquidate [the UOC] and all its communities and to forcibly transfer them to other religious organizations," the ROC said, adding that "hundreds of monasteries, thousands of communities, millions of Orthodox believers in Ukraine will find themselves outlawed and will lose their property and place of prayer."

It said that the centralized nature of the law is related to "sad historical precedents such as the persecutions in the Roman Empire during the time of Nero and Diocletian, the so-called de-Christianization of France during the French Revolution of the 18th century, the atheistic repressions in the Soviet Union and the destruction of the Albanian Orthodox Church in the 1960s."

ROC also raised that Kyiv's latest measure comes against the backdrop of a "long-term, slanderous anti-church campaign of the Ukrainian media" which has sought to defame canonical Orthodoxy and to provoke and justify the mass seizure of churches, which have been organized by the radical nationalists, local authorities, special services and law enforcement agencies.

The Synod noted that these seizures often come hand in hand with violence and mass beatings of clergy and churchgoers. UOC clerics have also continued to receive threats from Ukrainian special services, who have fabricated dozens of criminal cases against the pastors, in some cases handing them unjust sentences, the ROC alleged.

In conclusion, the highest authority in the Orthodox church said that it would appeal to international human rights organizations to immediately and objectively respond to the "flagrant persecution of believers in Ukraine."

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who immediately signed the bill into law on Saturday, which is incidentally Ukraine’s Independence Day, hailed the vote as a step to strengthen Ukraine's "spiritual independence." He referenced the bill and said, "Ukrainian orthodoxy today is taking a step toward liberation from the devils of Moscow."

Moreover, lawmaker Iryna Herashchenko said it was the issue of national security. "This is a historic vote. Parliament approved legislation which bans a branch of the aggressor country in Ukraine," she wrote on her Telegram account.

Meanwhile, a survey conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) in April 2024 indicated that 83 percent of Ukrainians believed that the state should intervene in the activities of the UOC to one degree or another. In particular, 63 percent believe that the UOC should be completely banned in Ukraine.

Metropolitan Clement, spokesperson of the UOC criticized the bill in a statement on Facebook, describing the law as an attempt "to divide people into right and wrong citizens."

Outside a UOC church in Kyiv, a 47-year-old parishioner said recent moves against his church were stifling. "The government is now creeping into my soul. It is up to me to decide how I pray. They have gone completely crazy," the parishioner, who refused to give his name for fear of reprisal, told CNN.

Roman Catholics’ Pope Francis condemns Ukraine’s ban on ROC
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Unfortunately People simply look at a name. I could talk all day like I am an Israeli, but would it be true?

The Israel of today is not the Ancient Israel of God from before the Babylonian captivity. And it certainly isn't the Israel of God at the time of Jesus. Why not? Because they rejected God, and the last time they did it - by rejecting Jesus - God made it almost permanent... in 70 AD when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem.

Only if the people of Israel humbly accept Jesus will God possibly make them part of His people again. Meanwhile, anybody else who accepts Jesus as their Savior is accepted into the TRUE and REAL Israel of God, the Heavenly Israel.
The belief that you are an Israeli when you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour is according to the Christian faith. The Jew or those who practice Judaism will dispute this claim because they don't believe in the New Testament.   

The heading is not correct. It should be the "Russian Orthodox Church blasts Ukraine for passing legislation suppressing any religion with historical"..... The title should be specific. 

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The point is, will Ukraine ban the Christian religion? If that is what their goal is, they will ultimately fail for sure. If this is simply an outward change in names and the structure of it, okay.

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Politics, War, and Religion are siblings anyway, so no surprise at all. All are born or thrive on blood and the suffering of the less privileged and vulnerable, so I couldn't care about them banning a religion or, not.
Would you also not care if they were to ban atheism? You're comment is unclear.

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