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August 28, 2024, 09:43:59 PM
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Stealing is Stealing no matter how you tried to justify it to let it not seem bad, if you want to help the poor and needy, when you still and if you're caught no one will pardon you because you stole to give to the poor.
The case in this whole scenario is different, some times in other to get what we want or claim justice we have to play along or more likely foolish untill it gets to the height of it all. That friend is living under threat, his actions may not be justifiable because he is involved but on how this is presented should tell how he rebukes it but has to commit to be able to save himself and aswell indirectly from the funds carter for the masses.

Let me believe what he awaits is  to gain more political power before he will freely oppose all the wrong deeds that has been going on, politicians are smart they no when it is time to back off after a while of endurance. If he can be able to give account of how he spent all the collected money on the masses then It is still working same purpose as per the main reason for the money, just that it happened indirectly.

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August 28, 2024, 10:19:42 PM
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He is still allowing illegal activities in his position and letting it perpetuate and spread. A lot of people tend to justify them allowing illegal activities in disguise that they do not participate in it themselves however them knowing is enough to say that it is illegal. If he really wants to make a difference, he will put a stop to all of this.
I agree.
Stealing for ANY reason is wrong - PERIOD. He needs to root out the corruption, not take money from it even though he takes it 'to do good'.

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August 28, 2024, 10:57:19 PM
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Stealing, fraud, racketeering, none of it is right. Never take anything that doesn’t rightly belong to you. We all work hard for what we have & we can sleep with a clean conscience. Nobody should be stealing & giving the proceeds to poor people, students or whatever.

There is never good justification for stealing be it that it was used to save a life or to rescue someone in bondage or whatsoever, if you need help you can always ask people for help as there are a lot of genuine people who are willing to help instead of making an excuse for stealing. No matter what we want to do with something that does not belongs to us but we should always learn to seek for their consent before using what belongs to others.

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August 29, 2024, 07:44:52 AM
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 There's the saying that two wrongs can't make a right. If this friend of yours is upright and full of integrity, why not quit instead of joining the bandwagon. Now some people will say it's better to use it for a foundation where you can touch lives than use it to enrich your life and that of your generation but still, it's bad.
 You are being a gracious donor won't change how the money was being gotten. The thing with most of these politicians is that they try to make themselves look good by awarding scholarships to youths in their community, involving in the development of their local governments and all that with funds that should develop the state or country! Which for me is the same thing as saving those funds for your generation because instead of it to bless the nation, it will reach only a select few.

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August 29, 2024, 08:02:17 PM
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you know that when we talk about stealing, we have two context to possibly look at from the OPs point of view. If it was a literal stealing where he directly takes what belongs to another person and gives it to another who he feels is poor, then that sort of act could be looked at as one that's totally wrong. But when we're considering a case where government owned public funds is involved and you're dealing with cabals that have the ability to hurting you if you handle the matter carelessly, it's necessary we don't just judge the fellow blindly.

In my opinion, exiting the office won't do him and the public any good, it will even deny the public the little previledges they are even Enjoying. If it's possible for him to remain as part of the government and keep on helping the people with funds that comes into his hands, it's better to keep doing that. But if you want to play safe,  the best option will be to come out from such circle so you don't make them look at you as a potential threat and plan how to do away with you.
There is no difference between stealing from person and stealing public money. Theft is a theft, no matter from where you're taking money.
If people justify it, then they shouldn't complain about bad healthacre, education or roads.
And no, if you can't change them, then join them isn't excuse.

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August 29, 2024, 11:15:11 PM
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He is still allowing illegal activities in his position and letting it perpetuate and spread. A lot of people tend to justify them allowing illegal activities in disguise that they do not participate in it themselves however them knowing is enough to say that it is illegal. If he really wants to make a difference, he will put a stop to all of this.
I agree.
Stealing for ANY reason is wrong - PERIOD. He needs to root out the corruption, not take money from it even though he takes it 'to do good'.

Nothing bad has produced good results in the long time. You cannot use a bad egg to make a good food neither will you plant a bad seedling and expect good yields. Two wrongs don't make a right. This is a validation to the fact, he cannot steal and use the poor people as a tool to continue with such wrongdoing.
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August 30, 2024, 02:42:52 AM
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Stealing is Stealing no matter how you tried to justify it to let it not seem bad, if you want to help the poor and needy, when you still and if you're caught no one will pardon you because you stole to give to the poor.

He did not justify that he did good because he knew full well that it was stolen money. If he shouldn't do that, what is the solution for him? If you were in his shoes, what would you do? Would you stand up and expose those corrupt people and let your whole family be threatened or even killed? You will sacrifice your life and your family's to fight corruption but you cannot guarantee whether it will succeed or fail? Have you ever been involved in politics or are you just frustrated with what politicians are doing and give advice based on your feelings?

I believe he knows what he is doing and the consequences if he is caught and charged with corruption, but it is still better than him standing up alone against a corrupt organization like a grasshopper kicking a car. Remember he is standing alone against a corrupt government, no one will support him if he stands up.

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August 30, 2024, 07:58:50 AM
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Stealing, fraud, racketeering, none of it is right. Never take anything that doesn’t rightly belong to you. We all work hard for what we have & we can sleep with a clean conscience. Nobody should be stealing & giving the proceeds to poor people, students or whatever.

There is never good justification for stealing be it that it was used to save a life or to rescue someone in bondage or whatsoever, if you need help you can always ask people for help as there are a lot of genuine people who are willing to help instead of making an excuse for stealing. No matter what we want to do with something that does not belongs to us but we should always learn to seek for their consent before using what belongs to others.

Some people are not getting the story, from the beginning the man in question never wanted to take but since you're in you're in and if he wants to be stubborn like saying he's not taking the money his life and probably that if his family will be in danger (because they might see him as someone to expose them) so he had to play along and we shouldn't forget that is only God that knows the heart of man.
So back to what I was saying, this guy is not using the funds or illegal funds as the case maybe, he isn't using it to change his life or something but making use of that ILLEGAL FUNDS to change things that the other politicians are not doing like the schools, markets, even giving the public good water and all that, not like he is being selfish like the others, let's say he is using those illegal money for good and he should be applauded or appreciated for that because we hardly see such people these days in the political sector.

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August 30, 2024, 08:16:30 AM
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Power corrupts, look, he can completely change.
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August 30, 2024, 12:59:12 PM
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A right and positive thinking mind will not take the option of stealing all because he wanted to give to the poor, we can't afford to give what we don't have, and stealing is not the best and perfect means to give, because such giving is at the expense of others, we can't give what we don't have, giving is not by force, it is done because we have the understanding and the realization of what we have not to be meant for us alone, but we care in giving to others who are in need.
if everyone is silent and rejects the wrong system, how can we experience positive change in our society? if you are in the company of people who are involved in things that are against what is right for you, as such do not portray yourself as a good person in that place.

politics is a dirty game, I have heard many stories of how people of integrity who enter politics with good intentions to bring about good governance are blackmailed and threatened.

politics is never a game for the weak and it is best to use your head like your friend did otherwise things may get messy for him and his family too.
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August 30, 2024, 07:32:10 PM
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If everyone keeps quiet and refuse fighting against faulty systems, how will we experience positive change in our society?  If you're in a company of people who are involved in things that's contrary to what's right for you, don't try to paint yourself as the good egg in the place. Walk away and save your conscience and reputation from being associated with what's not right. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Doing something that's right to cover up for what's wrong doesn't make your wrong right.
Honestly that’s all about life sometimes you might be right and at times you might be wrong but the best things is that a person should not be show up his self as he be something at all the times, if it will even allow who no suppose dis respect talk any thing they like against pert.

The all society is all all a about keep your people be happy always, but a lot of people’s didn’t understand that some will be find a way that it can pushed people in society and which is not good, As a good leader he supposed be fighting for society to bring better things to the society so that each and everyone can enjoy.

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August 30, 2024, 09:07:19 PM
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He knows that those funds he receives are illegal but he vowed not to use them for his personal needs. What is your opinion on this matter?
Wow, your friend trying to exonerate himself from a kleptomaniac system filled with klepttes but he's no different from the people in the system he claims to have hate for in as much as he is accepting those funds that aren't originally meant to flow into his pocket. Whether or not he is giving scholarships sponsoring and providing developmental projects in his ward using that money doesn't change the fact that the very money wasn't meant to go through the channel it's passing through.

If he as was really against receiving that money he would have quietly resigned because at the end of it all when the long arm of the law eventually caches up on them the law won't bend for him because he didn't use the money for personal gain but on his ward. It's really sadden that are always the bad people in majority number in every political society than the good guys whose voices can't go far.
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