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August 31, 2024, 05:47:04 PM
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Well, i don't see the casino blocking your account when you lose big money as an excuse, cause the fault is from you, you fail to follow their Tos and they have the right to block your account when you don't keep to their terms and conditions. I know that sometimes reading those Tos could be very boring and stressful but it's good for customers to take their time and go through them especially with things that involves money, cause most companies would want to take advantage of your mistakes without any pardon or warning and they'll mostly do that when you win huge amount of money, to them they see it like benefiting from their company without obeying their rules and regulations but when a customer don't win, they see no reason to block the account since you're not benefiting anything from them. The most important thing for any gambler to note is to avoid issues that would lead to ugly situations with a gambling site or casino in future or near future and going through the Tos is enough aid to avoiding those issues.
the problem some gamblers have is that when they want to withdraw some money and finally their withdrawal is suspended. related to gamblers who read the terms and conditions of the casino, I think they know that. creating many active accounts in one casino must have a specific purpose. and when their account is suspended or banned, they will blame the casino.
whether this is fair or not for the casino and the gambler, but it is already in the terms and conditions. if there is an intentional or unintentional mistake, the casino will have more superior evidence.

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August 31, 2024, 07:02:56 PM
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It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
There are many who make this mistake. They don't try to read the terms and conditions. As a result, some gamblers create more accounts on a casino platform for whatever reason and conduct their gambling activities in that platform. Those who do such work are at the greatest risk. Even though multiple accounts are not allowed on a platform, many gambler do it without realizing it and later they get restricted when they win big. Even in a top-level casino platform, if such an act is proven there will certainly be nothing for the aggrieved gambler to do. He can't even take legal action against this if he wants because it is clearly stated that multi account is prohibited. A gambler must know about these things before making a deposit. In most cases, it is seen that gamblers do not feel need to know about the problem until they run into a problem which is the biggest mistake of a gambler.

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September 04, 2024, 05:02:56 AM
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It's fair enough to say that a casino shouldn't allow it in the first place and the accounts should be blocked immediately when the gambler creates two or multiple accounts, but why does a gambler have multiple accounts in the first place? If you have multiple accounts, and you hit a big win with one of them, and then the casino investigates and finds out what you have been doing, they have all the rights to ban you or confiscate the funds.

I do agree. It may be written in TOS or just be seen as a fraud and treated as such. Nothing personal for the one who did such things Grin

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September 04, 2024, 05:28:53 AM
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It's fair enough to say that a casino shouldn't allow it in the first place and the accounts should be blocked immediately when the gambler creates two or multiple accounts, but why does a gambler have multiple accounts in the first place? If you have multiple accounts, and you hit a big win with one of them, and then the casino investigates and finds out what you have been doing, they have all the rights to ban you or confiscate the funds.

I do agree. It may be written in TOS or just be seen as a fraud and treated as such. Nothing personal for the one who did such things Grin

That's the kind of advantage the casino has—being ignorant can lead to regret. Why would they bother to close an account or investigate it when they can do that once someone hits a big win, lol. Sometimes we complain about things, but it's actually our fault. Although it may seem unethical, they don't violate any law, so they have a clear conscience.

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September 04, 2024, 05:58:24 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.
And my questions as regards to this matter have always been the same, and will continue to be the same, and which, what does a gambler need multiple accounts on the same casino for exactly? This is something I don't really understand, not like the casino have some kind of bonus the player is taking advantage of through multiple accounts, if this be the case, then it's very understandable and this could also be labeled as cheating, which the casino have a right to ban all the account involved and operated by the person.

But when there are no bonuses to take advantage of, what exactly does a gambler need multiple accounts on the same casino for, I see this move as nothing but simply the gambler creating more expense for him or herself, because he or she spends more money to funds those accounts, and also risking losing his winnings as well when ever he wins and the casinos charges him or her for operating multiple accounts.

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September 04, 2024, 08:40:04 AM
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But when there are no bonuses to take advantage of, what exactly does a gambler need multiple accounts on the same casino for, I see this move as nothing but simply the gambler creating more expense for him or herself, because he or she spends more money to funds those accounts, and also risking losing his winnings as well when ever he wins and the casinos charges him or her for operating multiple accounts.
Three main reasons people have multiple gambling accounts are to take more deposit bonus. The second is to take other promotional offers. The third is to take referral bonus. The three comes down into one reason which is to take bonus from the gambling site, and which is true, that it is cheating. But some people will like to have two accounts if it a gambling site support it and they might not use it to cheat just like exchanges let people have subaccounts. If gambling sites start something like that, people will have subaccounts on gambling sites also.

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September 04, 2024, 09:10:22 AM
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Do you noticed that there are many complaints recently about gambling sites blocking the accounts of some users. The user may have more than one account but maybe they do not read the terms of service before gambling. This is the ones that we heard of. There would be more than we did not know.

The first three gambling sites that I used which were local gambling sites, I did not read the terms of service. I use the same ISP to open 3 accounts for the first gambling site. I saw no problem because I lost money than win which makes me to to have a single withdrawal. Supposing that I won huge amount of money, they could have used multi accounting as an excuse not to let me withdraw the money.

It would be good for newbies and many people on this forum that are not even newbies to read the terms of service of the gambling site that they are using. Having more than one account is against the ToS of all or most of the gambling sites.

You must read the terms and conditions for gambling in detail, remembering that money entered into a gambling site will disappear by itself, every large gambling platform only limits one account, that is the applicable provisions. If there is a gambling platform that uses many sites, it can be misused by certain parties.

For beginners, it's best to focus on one account on one site, that way it will be safe, using multiple accounts on one site will be prohibited or there are newer sites that allow 1 account on one gambling site, so far I've never done anything like this, it's better. Look at the regulations that apply.

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September 04, 2024, 09:11:02 AM
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It's fair enough to say that a casino shouldn't allow it in the first place and the accounts should be blocked immediately when the gambler creates two or multiple accounts, but why does a gambler have multiple accounts in the first place? If you have multiple accounts, and you hit a big win with one of them, and then the casino investigates and finds out what you have been doing, they have all the rights to ban you or confiscate the funds.
I do agree. It may be written in TOS or just be seen as a fraud and treated as such. Nothing personal for the one who did such things Grin
Casino prohibit people to have multiple account and it was written in ToS but unfortunately, many gamblers doesn't read the ToS and underestimate about that. They thinks that they can have multiple account in that casino and doesn't realizes that casino can do many things with all of their accounts especially if they want to cheat the casino.

After all, casino will know if their members cheat them because they have all record about their members activity so they can check it to get more information about their members. Casino can investigate easily and casino will asking their members to verify their account by sending the other document to make sure they have a real document.

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September 04, 2024, 09:15:03 PM
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It's fair enough to say that a casino shouldn't allow it in the first place and the accounts should be blocked immediately when the gambler creates two or multiple accounts, but why does a gambler have multiple accounts in the first place? If you have multiple accounts, and you hit a big win with one of them, and then the casino investigates and finds out what you have been doing, they have all the rights to ban you or confiscate the funds.
I do agree. It may be written in TOS or just be seen as a fraud and treated as such. Nothing personal for the one who did such things Grin
Casino prohibit people to have multiple account and it was written in ToS but unfortunately, many gamblers doesn't read the ToS and underestimate about that. They thinks that they can have multiple account in that casino and doesn't realizes that casino can do many things with all of their accounts especially if they want to cheat the casino.

After all, casino will know if their members cheat them because they have all record about their members activity so they can check it to get more information about their members. Casino can investigate easily and casino will asking their members to verify their account by sending the other document to make sure they have a real document.
People would really be just that only mindful on about on reading up terms and conditions on the time or moment that they are experience shit situations on which on the moment that they
have been caught by the platform then this is where they would be having those kind of excuses but the fact that they havent read up the terms and conditions on which this is the primary mistake that they had done and this is where you cant do something since its your fault since from the start. This is why its really that important that you should really know on to those terms because on the time that you had missed out then high chances that you might be violating something and you are unaware of that not until on the time that you are experiencing some issues towards them then this is the time you would
be making checks.  Smiley

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September 04, 2024, 09:35:13 PM
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Op, if you have won with those accounts and you're about to withdraw it. There is for sure an stoppage for you by that casino because it is probably in their rules that only 1 account is allowed.

But if all of those are losing, there's no problem for them with that thing because it is in their favor. To all of the scam accusations that don't admit their mistakes that they've done multi accounts.

The casino that they are accusing will still find it out. If they have really done something like that.

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September 04, 2024, 11:55:25 PM
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There are many who make this mistake. They don't try to read the terms and conditions. As a result, some gamblers create more accounts on a casino platform for whatever reason and conduct their gambling activities in that platform. Those who do such work are at the greatest risk. Even though multiple accounts are not allowed on a platform, many gambler do it without realizing it and later they get restricted when they win big. Even in a top-level casino platform, if such an act is proven there will certainly be nothing for the aggrieved gambler to do. He can't even take legal action against this if he wants because it is clearly stated that multi account is prohibited. A gambler must know about these things before making a deposit. In most cases, it is seen that gamblers do not feel need to know about the problem until they run into a problem which is the biggest mistake of a gambler.


The gambler who not aware about the multiple accounts use in the gambling site will create multiple account.But the fact is the gambler who use the multiple account mostly banned by the moderators.The moderators are there to terminate the people who involve in all the malpractice of the gambling site.So I request you play the game without any malpractice.The gambling will provide you a good entertainment and for some to create an opportunity to earn some money from the gambling.But if you play gambling only to make money,you will loss everything.

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People would really be just that only mindful on about on reading up terms and conditions on the time or moment that they are experience shit situations on which on the moment that they
have been caught by the platform then this is where they would be having those kind of excuses but the fact that they havent read up the terms and conditions on which this is the primary mistake that they had done and this is where you cant do something since its your fault since from the start. This is why its really that important that you should really know on to those terms because on the time that you had missed out then high chances that you might be violating something and you are unaware of that not until on the time that you are experiencing some issues towards them then this is the time you would
be making checks.  Smiley
If they really read and make sure that they must understand with the ToS, they will not getting problem while playing gambling because they always be careful and not in rush for playing gambling. They will not makes themselves in trouble because that will also effects to their account. They knows that making 2 or more account is prohibit so they will not trying to do that because that can make all of their account getting banned. We must take care of ourselves and not trying to have 2 or more account in one casino because the casino will know and will do something to our accounts. Many people trying to use 2 or more accounts because they thinks that can help them to win or reach what they want. But that will only gives them trouble so they must realizes for that and will not do that in any casinos.

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September 05, 2024, 03:49:13 AM
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Op, if you have won with those accounts and you're about to withdraw it. There is for sure an stoppage for you by that casino because it is probably in their rules that only 1 account is allowed.
The rules would normally be like this, " 1 account per household".

But if all of those are losing, there's no problem for them with that thing because it is in their favor. To all of the scam accusations that don't admit their mistakes that they've done multi accounts.

The casino that they are accusing will still find it out. If they have really done something like that.
But they are just doing what they think would increase their profit. It may sound unfair, but at the end of the day, it's still our fault because we are not reading the TOS, hence we violated it without knowing. In general, our ignorance does not excuse us, so we have to pay for our mistake.

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September 05, 2024, 04:37:31 AM
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If they really read and make sure that they must understand with the ToS, they will not getting problem while playing gambling because they always be careful and not in rush for playing gambling. They will not makes themselves in trouble because that will also effects to their account. They knows that making 2 or more account is prohibit so they will not trying to do that because that can make all of their account getting banned. We must take care of ourselves and not trying to have 2 or more account in one casino because the casino will know and will do something to our accounts. Many people trying to use 2 or more accounts because they thinks that can help them to win or reach what they want. But that will only gives them trouble so they must realizes for that and will not do that in any casinos.
I agree with that, if they can take the time from the beginning to read and understand the ToS then maybe there won't be a problem but even with those who understand the ToS there are some who experience problems but it is better if we can take the time to understand the casino's terms and conditions or ToS first because we should also do that which aims to minimize problems when gambling because I am sure it is very uncomfortable to have problems when we are busy gambling. Having more than two accounts in one casino can be done, if the casino does not provide more detailed requirements such as KYC which requires facial recognition of players, but for casinos that submit KYC with one of them the player must go through a facial recognition process, maybe having two accounts in one casino cannot be done.

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September 05, 2024, 10:29:36 AM
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Many people trying to use 2 or more accounts because they thinks that can help them to win or reach what they want. But that will only gives them trouble so they must realizes for that and will not do that in any casinos.

How come having two or more account help to win more ? More accounts = more to deposit = more to lose, when chance to win is the same for every gambler. I can only understand if the situation was about users trying to cheat with welcome bonuses if there were any. But correct me if I am wrong, nobody now gives free bets or free spins just for a registration. I could understand if a person creates another account, because his first was banned, but it is a risky move, because chances for second account to be banned are increased. I can accept that someone create multiple accounts because he wants to get low level up bonuses, because wagering several thousands is always easy than, for example, wager from 50k to 100k to get free 10$. But that is also illogical. While trying to get $10, it easy to lose much more.

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Many people trying to use 2 or more accounts because they thinks that can help them to win or reach what they want. But that will only gives them trouble so they must realizes for that and will not do that in any casinos.

How come having two or more account help to win more ? More accounts = more to deposit = more to lose, when chance to win is the same for every gambler. I can only understand if the situation was about users trying to cheat with welcome bonuses if there were any. But correct me if I am wrong, nobody now gives free bets or free spins just for a registration. I could understand if a person creates another account, because his first was banned, but it is a risky move, because chances for second account to be banned are increased. I can accept that someone create multiple accounts because he wants to get low level up bonuses, because wagering several thousands is always easy than, for example, wager from 50k to 100k to get free 10$. But that is also illogical. While trying to get $10, it easy to lose much more.

Few reasons why they decide to create 2 or more accounts.

They want to increase the level of their accounts and take advantage on the benefits they get from it.

Referral fees if there's reward given on their sign ups.

Think that they are not lucky on their account then try to create new one then think about that fresh account will also bring good luck to them. Its obviously cheating the system and majority of people is aware of it and they just think they can escape on those illegal things they do since what this people think the casino will not notice especially if  they are using VPN. But also for me its not acceptable to create account its like tolerating people to do abusive act and casino much suffer with those things especially if they wrecked their bonus and win huge amount from it.

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Many people trying to use 2 or more accounts because they thinks that can help them to win or reach what they want. But that will only gives them trouble so they must realizes for that and will not do that in any casinos.

How come having two or more account help to win more ? More accounts = more to deposit = more to lose, when chance to win is the same for every gambler. I can only understand if the situation was about users trying to cheat with welcome bonuses if there were any. But correct me if I am wrong, nobody now gives free bets or free spins just for a registration. I could understand if a person creates another account, because his first was banned, but it is a risky move, because chances for second account to be banned are increased. I can accept that someone create multiple accounts because he wants to get low level up bonuses, because wagering several thousands is always easy than, for example, wager from 50k to 100k to get free 10$. But that is also illogical. While trying to get $10, it easy to lose much more.
The only reason why people create multiple accounts is to cheat on referral bonuses and if the casino noticed that such account uses the same ip then it creates more chances of getting ban, but however a gambler doesn't just created multiple accounts without all these reasons because there is no way someone would go make such account just to gamble since it's even more difficult to win bet in one accounts. Most cosimo's highly prohibited that and anyone caught farming account could immediately their penalized or freezed.

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September 05, 2024, 10:57:34 AM
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Few reasons why they decide to create 2 or more accounts.

They want to increase the level of their accounts and take advantage on the benefits they get from it.

Referral fees if there's reward given on their sign ups.


Can you explain how and what two accounts must do to increase their levels? Isnt it only the more you wager the higher level you have strategy? It must be something related one account making a deposit, but other not. Otherwise it wont make any sense.

Referral thing looks also lack of sense for me. From my experience, people get referrals by promoting their ref link and earn % of what those referrals lose. Making lots of accounts to get a cashback as a % of our other accounts amount lost. That is crazy. And stupid. Risk own money to get a cashback.

I could understand that there might be a case, when a gambler completely forgets his account name and email used, so he creates another account. And during KYC, he is being caught that such ID were already used by other account. But probability of such thing to happen is very low.

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Well, having multiple accounts in many occasions are mostly not allowed. It's just taking up space or something but it's still dependent. I wonder why someone would have multiple accounts to be honest. Like why need it? Unless you are planning to do something with the different accounts, might as well have just one.

The ToS is different for every casino and maybe you can quickly check it and skim it and see if you will violate anything in it. I think it's pretty easy to determine what it could be, the things that you shouldn't do but it doesn't hurt to read the ToS.

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Never created several accounts in one casino because I have long known that this practice is not welcome, and not only in gambling. And frankly, I do not see the point in it, because in the pursuit of free bonuses the probability that you will make a mistake that will later lead to the loss of large winnings is very high. To lose a large winnings because of such a ridiculous mistake will be very frustrating. Therefore, do not use multiple accounts and follow the rules of the gambling site where you play gambling.

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