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September 01, 2024, 05:18:53 PM
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war is not because of money but natural resources, but what is related to money is the social life of individuals against other individuals, where humans will compete with each other to look rich and powerful because they have a lot of money,
It's all about change of words at the end of day we are having all things for the money because mostly peoples love to stay rich and having control of other things which have not belonged to them as well even we have wars for natural resources but still it's all about money because natural resources are sources of money as well.

This cannot be denied by anyone because it is also related to authority and power that should not be owned by others so that people who are able to do such things will continue to do so indiscriminately to anyone. However, I do not see such things in all countries except for a few countries where perhaps the leaders are still very cruel to their people and also to many people so that they do not have a sense of compassion for fellow human beings in this world.
No doubt we are having things which are just creating challenges and also having no good things for the common peoples lives even now we are having changes but still we are having too many countries which are facing challenges like these as they are ruled by peoples those are having no humanity and soft policies for all because they want to do things as they want, and they are also successful in this because no organizations and authorities are able to stop them from doing this.

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September 01, 2024, 06:31:54 PM
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Isn't money an inanimate object, how can it do wrong, but why is it considered the root of evil. Money was created to facilitate transactions of goods or services, it was not created as a cause of crime, here it is very clear that money is neutral as a tool that makes things easier for humans. As a result of people's views on money starting to change, they believe that money can solve all problems in life, so people love money more and more and try to collect as much of it as they can. In my opinion, money is not the root of all evil, but the main cause of crime is excessive love of money.
Money can make us happy, and miserable, depending on our own way of thinking. If we love money too much or even worship money, it will be a crime. because we will do anything to get money, the most extreme may be killing.

In essence, money is not the source of evil, and money does not cause evil. What causes evil is our way of thinking and our own hearts. If previously to get money we did anything, there are also those who already have a lot of money can also become evil because we will order money to do the right thing and can be ordered to do the wrong thing, which is our own command.
So what is wrong is not money, or money is not the source of evil, but our way of thinking and our hearts are wrong in using and interpreting money.
It is true that everything that happens of course depends on each individual and the greed that will make someone legalize all means to get money so that the person never thinks about whether it harms others or not and all that happens is not because of money but the mistakes of those who want money in the wrong way.
We have also seen those who have a lot of money using the right way and also like to share with people in need and there are also some people who do not have money who commit crimes and we cannot blame money as the root of all evil but it really depends on a person's personality in using the money.
I think, person to person concept of money and evil is different. Because everyone is different from another person and everyone faced different challenges in life and someone did hard work in life and achieved success in life and someone did hard work in study and did not get anything and that why they did Robery and today most of the robers are educated person who did not get job after doing hard work. But nurchuring also matters a lot in life and if someone has nice father and mom and he made his friends who are goal oriented,he will be positive in life and he will  cooperate in life with other people.

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September 02, 2024, 10:38:40 AM
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Maybe that only happens where you live and I don't think that something like that also happens in other people's places, because in my place in terms of helping each other in disasters, it still looks the same between the rich and the poor. Although some people may still think that helping the rich will definitely get a very satisfying reward than helping the poor who can't give anything after that and if there are people who think like that at this time, it means that the person is not sincere in helping others who are being struck by disaster.
Losing empathy because helping someone expects a reward so that what happens is often ignoring the poor who really need help. Just look at how social values occur and how people behave who have only thought about their fate. Rich people no longer think about how they can employ poor people but oppress them as they please even though in reality not all rich people behave like that. Social life and the gap in life seem to mean nothing anymore where each individual will be responsible for themselves.

The condition is getting worse where the poor lose their jobs and they are increasingly enslaved by the immoral rich. Social inequality is indeed the basis for why we are currently losing empathy, caring and helping each other. Urban life is almost entirely done with money and nothing is free anymore.

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September 02, 2024, 12:25:14 PM
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Isn't money an inanimate object, how can it do wrong, but why is it considered the root of evil. Money was created to facilitate transactions of goods or services, it was not created as a cause of crime, here it is very clear that money is neutral as a tool that makes things easier for humans. As a result of people's views on money starting to change, they believe that money can solve all problems in life, so people love money more and more and try to collect as much of it as they can. In my opinion, money is not the root of all evil, but the main cause of crime is excessive love of money.
Money can make us happy, and miserable, depending on our own way of thinking. If we love money too much or even worship money, it will be a crime. because we will do anything to get money, the most extreme may be killing.

In essence, money is not the source of evil, and money does not cause evil. What causes evil is our way of thinking and our own hearts. If previously to get money we did anything, there are also those who already have a lot of money can also become evil because we will order money to do the right thing and can be ordered to do the wrong thing, which is our own command.
So what is wrong is not money, or money is not the source of evil, but our way of thinking and our hearts are wrong in using and interpreting money.
It is true that everything that happens of course depends on each individual and the greed that will make someone legalize all means to get money so that the person never thinks about whether it harms others or not and all that happens is not because of money but the mistakes of those who want money in the wrong way.
We have also seen those who have a lot of money using the right way and also like to share with people in need and there are also some people who do not have money who commit crimes and we cannot blame money as the root of all evil but it really depends on a person's personality in using the money.
I think, person to person concept of money and evil is different. Because everyone is different from another person and everyone faced different challenges in life and someone did hard work in life and achieved success in life and someone did hard work in study and did not get anything and that why they did Robery and today most of the robers are educated person who did not get job after doing hard work. But nurchuring also matters a lot in life and if someone has nice father and mom and he made his friends who are goal oriented,he will be positive in life and he will  cooperate in life with other people.
If you are someone who do came from hardship or non easy life in terms of financial status or aspect then you would really be able to make yourself be mindful when it comes to the actions that you are taking.
You wont really be that making yourself be that too impulsive when it comes on spending money just because you are already that wary on how hard to earn money. So you would really be  that skeptical
on the time that you would really be making some spending. Money isnt the root of evil, it would really be all starting into someones mind and decision to be made. Money is really just that a tool on which you would really be that using it up. It would really be that understandable that there might be some lapses on which a certain person would do but we should really be mindful carefully on how to deal with it.

You wont really be putting up yourself on such trouble if you are really just that mindful into the actions that you are making and wont really be having those second thoughts specially if it do involves
about being greedy. You cant really just that make yourself having that kind of potential issues in the future. Root of fear would really be only just that possible on the time
that you would really be able to experience such problems.

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September 02, 2024, 12:42:42 PM
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If you are someone who do came from hardship or non easy life in terms of financial status or aspect then you would really be able to make yourself be mindful when it comes to the actions that you are taking.
You wont really be that making yourself be that too impulsive when it comes on spending money just because you are already that wary on how hard to earn money. So you would really be  that skeptical
on the time that you would really be making some spending. Money isnt the root of evil, it would really be all starting into someones mind and decision to be made. Money is really just that a tool on which you would really be that using it up. It would really be that understandable that there might be some lapses on which a certain person would do but we should really be mindful carefully on how to deal with it.

You wont really be putting up yourself on such trouble if you are really just that mindful into the actions that you are making and wont really be having those second thoughts specially if it do involves
about being greedy. You cant really just that make yourself having that kind of potential issues in the future. Root of fear would really be only just that possible on the time
that you would really be able to experience such problems.
Hardship ain't just tough times, it's a damn crucible. You emerge out the other side, value every dollar as though it were blood, sweat, and tears. That's being clever; that's not cheap. Money's tool; it is not the devil. You develop your life with it, not hide under debt. Balance, man, that's the key

Money is not only about savings. It's a minefield; it's power, freedom. It can open doors or slam them squarely in your face. It can strengthen bonds or sour them. Think ahead. Every financial choice affects something else. Your decisions now will determine your tomorrow as well as perhaps the people around you. Though learn from the past, avoid allowing it to paralyze you. You negotiate this chaotic planet with wide open eyes

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September 02, 2024, 01:36:44 PM
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Hardship ain't just tough times, it's a damn crucible. You emerge out the other side, value every dollar as though it were blood, sweat, and tears. That's being clever; that's not cheap. Money's tool; it is not the devil. You develop your life with it, not hide under debt. Balance, man, that's the key

I hear this in biblical preaching, and most interpretations of what is written in the holy book is not always gotten right. The writer may have a different perspective to it, but money is not by any means evil. Just that money could make people do things they never wanted to do in their entire life.

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Im not sure but it seems that Kamala Harris moving on that direction slowly.
Also the state of California in USA.

Politicians are just puppets, they can't change anything. And I am not sure they wish to change anything, why would they? They are getting richer and enjoying all the benefits. Their kids will have the same treatment... all they need to do is talk about one thing to attract ordinary people to trust them and to do whatever is needed for banks & corporations to earn even more money and gain even more power. As long as they play that game they will stay where they are, when they start doing the right things they will be removed, just like that.

So maybe you have a good idea, but if you think that some politician will trade their wealth for a fair world you are living in some illusion. There are good people in politics, don't get me wrong, but they are not in high places... to be in the high league in politics you need to sell your soul first.

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The saying "money is the root of all evil" suggests that the pursuit of wealth can lead to unethical behavior & moral corruption. Money itself is a neutral tool but its misuse can generate greed, fear & conflict. Fear often arises from scarcity as people worry about losing their financial stability or compare themselves to others. Money can actually facilitate good, enabling positive change & support for communities. At the end of the day it's the values & choices of individuals that determine whether money leads to negative or positive outcomes.

To clarify: the original saying is "the love of money" is the root of all evil.

Money itself is, as you point out, simply a tool.

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. - Timothy 6:10

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206%3A10&version=KJV

takes a newbie to set the record straight thank you for the quote.

I am 67 years old. My granddad died of prostate cancer his bother my great uncle  John died of prostate cancer his other brother my great uncle Archie died of prostate cancer.

I have a very high chance of getting the disease. What does "love of money do for me" nothing it just causes problems and hurts my mental state.

I also know health and good companionship with some money is far far far far far better than a pile of cash.

So do I have some money?  yes I do.
do I love money? nope.

a lot of money won't save me from death.
a lot of money won't let me live for 200 or 300 years.

some money will let me be in an okay place to live.
some money will let me have an okay car.
some money will let me eat well.
some money will let me spend time having fun with my wife and my friends.


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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.
Money does not change a person and money does not make a person afraid, depending on how the person himself treats money in life, basically not a few people with their money become still good and I also do not deny that there are people who with their money become evil and scare others, but all of this depends on the person's personality, money only clarifies a person's character.

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I like to test this idea i myself not poor Im quite well financially but i hate that our society have lost sense of humanity and only will considering you as human how rich you are or how much money you have.
It's even in the real life people see that If something happens with someone .....before they go to help or something they first run "the quick check in their mind "how wealthy this person are what's the status of person or other stats and then they make decisions...If it's worth to help by them.
We do lose sense of humanity more and more.
It has a lot to do with the person's morals, education, humanity, and environment, because there are many people who behave in this way before they help, but yes you can't claim that all people are the same, there is always the opposite of such people.

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September 02, 2024, 02:58:13 PM
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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.

It’s funny though. But you know this is impossible; we cannot stay without looking for money, and never furthermore, millions of people in a country. How do you think the government of such a country will be able to meet up with everybody's needs and won’t leave other parts of the country in starvation? If the government should be the one to provide, there will be restrictions on many things,

and many people will be more depressed, as you think we are depressed right now. However, humans always want to get something that belongs to them individually and not until they wait for another person to provide for them. If you want to wait till another person provides your need, then definitely you will not be out of financial trouble. You may always be in debt.

Remember that the government has family members, and they will definitely give their own people everything they need before remembering another person outside there. The best thing is everybody should look for ways to earn and do what they want with their money.

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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.
In today's world, people are so greedy for money that they are ruining their humanity. Being the richest person in the society, he is ahead of everyone in terms of income. We know that money is the source of happiness and money is the source of unhappiness. I will not deny that there should be a limitation on the need for money to survive. Extra money can never make a person happy but it is the root of his problems. There are many who resort to corruption for money. One is facing various violent situations with one another for money. This money is responsible for everything. But thinking about anything without money is not possible. Money has played a key role in all the discoveries and developments today. If people were not interested in money then people would not go for new inventions. No new initiatives were to be taken. Service organizations were not created. Considering various aspects everyone needs money.

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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.

Remember that the government has family members, and they will definitely give their own people everything they need before remembering another person outside there. The best thing is everybody should look for ways to earn and do what they want with their money.
Although that the government has a family, but that doesn’t mean that they should be maltreat those people’s that make build them to reach the position they are claiming today, they said that charity begins at home but at least the government have to consider those people that are outside also not only his family’s members he can always put in front to achieve everything. Is good ideas for everybody to look for a way to earn, but not mean we can stop from seek for government help to make everything become much better and also enjoy life.

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Remember that the government has family members, and they will definitely give their own people everything they need before remembering another person outside there. The best thing is everybody should look for ways to earn and do what they want with their money.
Lol then they should not have run for the government then. If they are so selfish, they could have just gone and found a different career path. This kind of mindset only justifies and perpetuates corruption in the government.

The government provides and serves first and foremost the people of the country. Among those are their families. They need to consider the greater good and not just their families. Citizens of a country also have family members, why shouldn’t we look out for them as much as these government officials do with theirs?
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Hardship ain't just tough times, it's a damn crucible. You emerge out the other side, value every dollar as though it were blood, sweat, and tears. That's being clever; that's not cheap. Money's tool; it is not the devil. You develop your life with it, not hide under debt. Balance, man, that's the key

Money is not only about savings. It's a minefield; it's power, freedom. It can open doors or slam them squarely in your face. It can strengthen bonds or sour them. Think ahead. Every financial choice affects something else. Your decisions now will determine your tomorrow as well as perhaps the people around you. Though learn from the past, avoid allowing it to paralyze you. You negotiate this chaotic planet with wide open eyes

the need to look at the past, it is a lesson that can be applied that only the positive that we take, by appreciating an effort that we get, money gives you a broader thought to use it for more useful things, but depending on your hand using it is a choice.

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Money can be the reason behind a lot of evils, that's true, however, the solution you are proposing isn't logical and that wouldn't work but it will only make things worse in the long run. Imagine every single person in a country will be getting food and housing without doing anything at all. And the very first and the most important question is, where would the government get the money from to do all that? Do you think this only should happen to one or a few countries or the whole world? If it's for the whole world, where would the resources come from? We all know countries aren't going to distribute their resources for free.

Also, removing the monetary system from an economy wouldn't make evil go away completely. There will still be reasons for people to fight and do things that they shouldn't do, there will be robberies for resources when there is no money, there will be murders, kidnapping, everything you can think of.

the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed
But, people do judge others by face reading and overall dressing appearance. No one is ready to look for the content of a book but makes a judgement by its cover itself. You may show off your wealth by your car or mobile phone or by dressing but through your noble thoughts, it will definitely take time. It all means people do grab the quicker one.

how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.
Why not we take this in this way, like people use their skills and knowledge to earn or multiply their money and then showing off. From that show off, you again judge them. Even a corrupted politician can show off their big wealth still we rate them high until they are not yet punished by law. That high rating is for their skill and knowledge to convince us for better rating and for delaying the punishments of law.

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Hardship ain't just tough times, it's a damn crucible. You emerge out the other side, value every dollar as though it were blood, sweat, and tears. That's being clever; that's not cheap. Money's tool; it is not the devil. You develop your life with it, not hide under debt. Balance, man, that's the key

I hear this in biblical preaching, and most interpretations of what is written in the holy book is not always gotten right. The writer may have a different perspective to it, but money is not by any means evil. Just that money could make people do things they never wanted to do in their entire life.

Removed the biblical passage and all of that, we should understand by now that money is not the root of all evil. Everyone wanted to get rich so that we can live comfortably with our kids and grand kids, in short build a generational wealth. But the thing is that no one can be that small percentage to build that wealth overtime. But we can still live a good life if we can earn and attract money that way we should be. So there is nothing wrong with money or it is being labeled as root of evil, it is not. And I have this belief that money is for everyone, and if we look at it, God gave it to us, we just need to know how to earn and used it wisely.

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Remember that the government has family members, and they will definitely give their own people everything they need before remembering another person outside there. The best thing is everybody should look for ways to earn and do what they want with their money.
Lol then they should not have run for the government then. If they are so selfish, they could have just gone and found a different career path. This kind of mindset only justifies and perpetuates corruption in the government.

The government provides and serves first and foremost the people of the country. Among those are their families. They need to consider the greater good and not just their families. Citizens of a country also have family members, why shouldn’t we look out for them as much as these government officials do with theirs?

In theory, what you say is true, the government or any politician must put the interests of the country and the people first, not personal interests. But in reality, things will never work out that way. I don't agree when politicians think and do so, but one thing is for sure, if we were in their position, we would do the same. We will also be corrupt, we will also find ways to put relatives in government positions or help them make money first. This is how politics works in third world countries, they always try to put their own and their relatives' interests above the country's profits.

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Losing empathy because helping someone expects a reward so that what happens is often ignoring the poor who really need help. Just look at how social values occur and how people behave who have only thought about their fate. Rich people no longer think about how they can employ poor people but oppress them as they please even though in reality not all rich people behave like that. Social life and the gap in life seem to mean nothing anymore where each individual will be responsible for themselves.

The condition is getting worse where the poor lose their jobs and they are increasingly enslaved by the immoral rich. Social inequality is indeed the basis for why we are currently losing empathy, caring and helping each other. Urban life is almost entirely done with money and nothing is free anymore.
The reason why rich people try to oppress the poor (and usually divide them so they would fight each other) is the fact that they do not want the poor to pick up on what the rich are doing to get rich, and they want to make sure that the poor are not looking their way.

There has been a lot of times in history where poor got together and killed the rich and took over the wealth and tried to distribute fairly, the killing part usually was easy, fairly distributing part never really happened, even if they did alright for a bit, they didn't do alright for too long.

In the end, media is the way to control, they keep pumping news that are not huge, small very unimportant stuff, talked about for hours everyday for months, becoming big in peoples minds, so they do not focus on the big bad wolf.

If they let everyone be free, then the talks will all be about how the wealthy people are stealing from everyone and getting rich that way, every single company that is big, is doing one thing or another that is unethical to get there, something that makes us poorer, it doesn't matter which company, you name it and I will tell you what they are doing wrong to get rich, it's very clear, we just don't talk about it.

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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.


I can't agree with you. It is in our nature to spoil each other. And money is the tool that gives some people success, because they tried for it, and others failure. I mean that all this is part of natural selection. And if we all become equal, and our skills and struggle among ourselves will not be counted in any way, then it will be very unnatural. Therefore, money is an absolutely natural tool that shows our success, and we cannot refuse it. And agree that it is better to get rich and live well than to work all your life and know that you will never get anything more than your allotted portion of food.

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The saying "money is the root of all evil" suggests that the pursuit of wealth can lead to unethical behavior & moral corruption. Money itself is a neutral tool but its misuse can generate greed, fear & conflict. Fear often arises from scarcity as people worry about losing their financial stability or compare themselves to others. Money can actually facilitate good, enabling positive change & support for communities. At the end of the day it's the values & choices of individuals that determine whether money leads to negative or positive outcomes.

Money is the root of evil but we can't stop looking for it because we can't survive without having it, money has been a root of evil since the beginning of the world when our grant parents were still alive, so even by this time it should not be a surprise to us, money in other hand is also the life of the people because with the way we are living now if you don't have money you are not part of human being, money can never be satisfied to any human being because if it is something that can if someone have he or she will say they don't want more, if you look at our leaders today they have millions of money before coming to Politics and the reason why they are in Politics is to make more money, no any politician will open his mouth and said that he is not in Politics for money, so even in the next life money will still be a problem to the world.

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