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October 01, 2024, 08:33:39 PM
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Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist
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October 01, 2024, 09:58:33 PM
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For that reason I say that poverty is mental, it is not about what or what they want to be poor, poverty is something that besieges, in some cases it is due to a lack of opportunities, in a country where there are people who have studied have the potential to contribute and do not have the opportunities that is another thing, that they are poor only because of that, even so they point out what they can do, then poverty is something that besieges but it is coupled with the lack of motivation and inventiveness for work, because in most cases there is work, they just don't take it, for me the way out of poverty will always be work.


because in poverty, work becomes a determining factor for someone to progress or retreat, because this situation becomes a certain motivation, which is closely related to a person's survival depending on how the individual assesses it, and each person has their own thoughts about the solution to their own way out.

And this is where you could really be able to distinguish into those individuals who do have plans in compared into those people who dont really just that dont care about into their situation and really just that contented on what they do have or experiencing now. Its not bad on having that contentment specially on your lfie status or living but its not also that bad on taking up some considerations on trying out to enhance yourself
the way of living and the current status you do have. As long you are making things legally and ethically then i dont see any problems in regarding to this. It will really be just that normal that you would really be taking up such steps for you to at least on making your life status to be better. It will really be best that you should really be knowing at least on the things that you are involving with and the decisions made on.

Money is the root of evil? No its not. The real evil on here is into those people who do have that bad intents on doing something unethical or simply which is really that against or simply violations or crimes
and since they do have the money then they could really do everything that they do want. So it does simply implies that it is really just that a tool that being used by a certain individual.

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October 01, 2024, 11:47:27 PM
Last edit: October 07, 2024, 06:43:24 PM by AmoreJaz
 #143

Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist

As we put it this way, we really need money to survive in this life. We may not aim for riches but hard to get by your everyday survival without money. But if you are a person who is contented for what you have, so long you are living a decent life, you won't aim for luxurious life. Because that's when you will start having financial troubles because you have other material things to acquire, hence, you go to the extent of incurring debts from others or your credit cards.

When you have experienced hardships in life, you will understood the meaning of simple life. You will just aim to have peace of mind, no debt from anyone and just go thru your everyday life without bothering anyone. You don't need to brag anymore about your status as you are already at peace with yourself.

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October 03, 2024, 10:23:44 AM
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For that reason I say that poverty is mental, it is not about what or what they want to be poor, poverty is something that besieges, in some cases it is due to a lack of opportunities, in a country where there are people who have studied have the potential to contribute and do not have the opportunities that is another thing, that they are poor only because of that, even so they point out what they can do, then poverty is something that besieges but it is coupled with the lack of motivation and inventiveness for work, because in most cases there is work, they just don't take it, for me the way out of poverty will always be work.
It is not wrong about what you said about the point of poverty and also the point of becoming rich, because in my own area the poor people are people who do not have a job that is so decent so they do not have a stable income in their own lives. In addition, those who are still poor also have shortcomings in creating new things to attract everyone even though they have the opportunity to do so. However, because they also have limitations in terms of the knowledge they have, their time and opportunities also become useless so they have to continue to work hard with their own physical abilities without caring about other things they can achieve.

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October 03, 2024, 02:14:29 PM
 #145

Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist
If money is what is being use for people to value in the society that means we have missed what value is supposed to be in the society, that means people will do anything for money just to get value in the society. Money shouldn't be what brings value to people,  the real thing that is suppose to give people value is the characters they exhibit, if it is what the society needs and if it is affecting the society positively.

One can have money in illegal ways, do we say such person is a person of good value.  Some people can be wealthy but still be stupid and their lifestyle is affecting the society negatively. Value shouldn't be base on money but what impact is one adding to the society both in characters and to the development in the society.

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October 03, 2024, 09:51:15 PM
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because in poverty, work becomes a determining factor for someone to progress or retreat, because this situation becomes a certain motivation, which is closely related to a person's survival depending on how the individual assesses it, and each person has their own thoughts about the solution to their own way out.

Yes, but you have to look at it from a very good point of view , because even if we are Millionaires we should feel Useful and the best way is to work , you should work hard for everything , I have read books where they say that if you work and you like what you do you are happy, but if you work only for money you are not happy and how much reason there is there, I remember reading an article a long time ago where the Swiss proposed to them not to work Anymore because they simply did not need it , and they flatly refused, I think that in life we ​​should give the position to the job that it is , so that what is done is valued, what I do not Agree with is that People are exploited and paid Little , which is the most Common thing.

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October 03, 2024, 10:38:57 PM
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When money becomes the ultimate thing, it distorts one's sense of reasoning. No doubt it presumably good to have money but another vital thing is knowing how bear to spend the money. MONEY on its own has a different spirit that comes with it, some people are naturally greedy, full of all kinds of deceits and can died all because of money.
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October 03, 2024, 11:16:49 PM
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Being greed is, money is a tool and the misuse of it leads to destruction and other evil things as you've mentioned OP.

This is not different from people that keeps on justifying that money can't buy happiness. We're already on the 21st century and there's still some debates about it.

One can have money in illegal ways, do we say such person is a person of good value.  Some people can be wealthy but still be stupid and their lifestyle is affecting the society negatively. Value shouldn't be base on money but what impact is one adding to the society both in characters and to the development in the society.
I like the latter part that you've said. It's about the value of people that doesn't comes from money. But it's hard to get into this principle nowadays where everyone is only looking after the money.

Well, it's all about the love of money that makes people greedy and the social values that they have changes because they think that everyone, everything can be bought with money.


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It is not wrong about what you said about the point of poverty and also the point of becoming rich, because in my own area the poor people are people who do not have a job that is so decent so they do not have a stable income in their own lives. In addition, those who are still poor also have shortcomings in creating new things to attract everyone even though they have the opportunity to do so. However, because they also have limitations in terms of the knowledge they have, their time and opportunities also become useless so they have to continue to work hard with their own physical abilities without caring about other things they can achieve.

Yes, you are right and it is a fact that things are that way , sometimes the capabilities of people can make them even poorer , a person who has a lot of wealth can use it to get better Opportunities , what happens is that in most countries to be able to study you have to have a lot of money, there are countries that Allow free education, therefore that is what you have to see and Understand , in a country that offers you free education there are no excuses for Poor People , because if you are poor it is because you are lazy and you do not like to Work , but if you have Opportunities to get ahead by working it is something that should be done.


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I dont think money is the root of all evil. It's more about how people choose to use it. Sure, some people do bad stuff for money like crimes, stealing, killing others, but that's on them, not the money itself. It is the person that is doing those stuffs who is evil. There are tons of people who use their wealth to help others and make the world a better place. Money can be used  for good if you let it. Blaming money is kinda missing the point - it's really all about personal choices and morals. Plus, without money, how would we trade or get things done?

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Right now the person value in society is based on how wealthy they are and what they own and how much that costs what they own.

Instead of that the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed but instead of this how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.
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I guess then you are living in the wrong society. You should start looking for new friends that wont judge you by your wealth.

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October 06, 2024, 04:32:55 PM
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Money as root of evil and root of fear.
Maybe it's better If our goverments will just provide us food and housing and we rather own nothing at least we don't need to worry about getting more money more more more ....i think even those wealthy people are tired of chasing money together with other people in society.

The fear that money is finish all the time could be the reason why we live in very stressful and depresive world.
We can say that that's way how it is but we haven't tried different ways.

Even tho you working at the Job the goverment should always guarantee for you no matter what you have food and housing what ever you work yourself that's for extra.
I belive it's all possible with AI and with more automated world when robots can produce a lot things cheaper and way faster then human workers.

Right now the person value in society is based on how wealthy they are and what they own and how much that costs what they own.

Instead of that the fair system will be judging person value by the merits of the person doing in society not just how wealthy they are or how good they are to take from others with super greed but instead of this how much they give to others in terms of their skills talents and knowledge.

So If robots and ai machines coming then it could be possible that goverments can support us fully no matter what right now there is too much money chasing by everybody and person don't put his energy nowhere else then just chasing the money it's like the shadow you never catch that If goverment become on full aid for people then many people can live without that fear that they not getting enough money and people can focus on their talents skills energy and time to be more creative and useful for society instead of just chasing the money.
Maybe it's even ban money for indviduals and instead of money you get "tokens for food travel and clothing "
Im sure If we eliminate use of money people will be less evil and more happy also the fact that you own something and i don't own it's unfair and If your life is better by luck that you had maybe some wealthy parents so you live better life that's unfair and it's not based on person own merits in society....maybe it's better If nobody owns nothing or If they own that would very very exdronary case

This is a trope that has been around for a long time, there is an element of truth to it but it passes the buck of blame from the actual people who are doing the deeds. Money is a tool that can allow bad people, or even corrupt good people, but it's a necessary method of trade that needs to exist. The alternative would be everyone trading what individual goods they produce - one person might make nails, another might be a tomato farmer, but that is a terrible inefficient system of barter that simply does not work in a world with billions of people. Blaming notes and coins for the actions of people is a cop out, a way of absolving blame on an inanimate object, that should not be continued.

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October 06, 2024, 05:05:46 PM
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It is not wrong about what you said about the point of poverty and also the point of becoming rich, because in my own area the poor people are people who do not have a job that is so decent so they do not have a stable income in their own lives. In addition, those who are still poor also have shortcomings in creating new things to attract everyone even though they have the opportunity to do so. However, because they also have limitations in terms of the knowledge they have, their time and opportunities also become useless so they have to continue to work hard with their own physical abilities without caring about other things they can achieve.

Yes, you are right and it is a fact that things are that way , sometimes the capabilities of people can make them even poorer , a person who has a lot of wealth can use it to get better Opportunities , what happens is that in most countries to be able to study you have to have a lot of money, there are countries that Allow free education, therefore that is what you have to see and Understand , in a country that offers you free education there are no excuses for Poor People , because if you are poor it is because you are lazy and you do not like to Work , but if you have Opportunities to get ahead by working it is something that should be done.


The opportunities that rich people have are more open compared to the opportunities that poor people have, I think there will be differences of opinion from some people, but that is my view. I will explain why I dare to say that.
The opportunities for rich people are more open, one of the reasons is capital. When they build a business, they don't have to be confused about looking for capital because they already have it, and even when they fail they will get up faster because they have reserve capital to allow them to start over again.
While poor people can't do that, they have to collect capital first and that might take time. The bigger problem is when they have to feel failure, they won't be able to get up quickly because they don't have reserve capital, and it might take a long time for them to try again.

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October 06, 2024, 06:17:11 PM
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Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist
Are you trying to contradict what the Bible have said  or bringing it in your own way? Money is the root of all evil because the word "root" means foundation. We all want to make money but their are some people that would not mind doing illegal things just to make sure that there is money in their hands. Their are people that don't want to work but want to be making money which is obvious that such kind of person can go extra miles to ensure they make money. This is where the evil aspect comes in. Due to the high level of inflation in various countries, it has lured many people to think of scamming others just to make this money and buy properties and lots of cars living a luxury lifestyles.

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October 06, 2024, 08:26:30 PM
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Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist

As we put it this way, we really need money to survive in thislife. We may not aim for riches but hard to get by your everyday survival without money.

Money is life. I am always confident to mention this statement and I have my reasons for arriving at such conclusions. When you are rich and buoyant, you can afford the basic and advanced things of life and give yourself  the treatment you deserve as well as the comfortability. According to the MASLOW hierarchy of needs, food, shelter, water and clothing, among others form the basic and bottom level of the pyramid which is also referred to as the physiological needs. Meaning without these things, life may remain miserable and meaningless to anyone even if they have other levels of the pyramid including safety and security, love and belonging, self esteem and self actualization.

What I'm saying in all essence is that all or majority of these physiological needs are not satisfied without having money. The level of the wealth you have can greatly determine the quality of the food, clothes, and shelter. This is to say that money is life because without money, you cannot afford all these basic and primary things which will determine the secondary ones.

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Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist
Are you trying to contradict what the Bible have said  or bringing it in your own way? Money is the root of all evil because the word "root" means foundation. We all want to make money but their are some people that would not mind doing illegal things just to make sure that there is money in their hands. Their are people that don't want to work but want to be making money which is obvious that such kind of person can go extra miles to ensure they make money. This is where the evil aspect comes in. Due to the high level of inflation in various countries, it has lured many people to think of scamming others just to make this money and buy properties and lots of cars living a luxury lifestyles.
Don't just read a piece of the bible it will be the wrong thought, money can indeed be assumed like that, but it goes back to himself, how he controls his mind and heart, precisely the root of the problem in this world is the mind and heart of man because from there arise many feelings and ideologies of various kinds including about money, money is only made a scapegoat in this view, everything analysis or view you have to compare that more people can get money but in a much better way, meaning committing crime and for crime is a form of problem in humans themselves.

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I guess then you are living in the wrong society. You should start looking for new friends that wont judge you by your wealth.

"Society" when used in general refers to communities, people living together, and in simple terms, it's used to refer to people living together and I'm sure OP wasn't referring to a specific community he lives in but the whole world in general.

However, he isn't wrong in what he is saying. The world has become this way, those who have no money have no respect or identity in society. We live in an era where someone's respect is measured based on his status and not his general being, it's unfortunate but it's the truth, and since we can't change that single-handedly, we are supposed to adapt and accept that.

So for a person to become recognized, and respected, and to have at least some power, he has to become rich. If you are okay without all these things, you can still live your life in peace with yourself fulfilling your own needs with whatever you can earn. Even relationships these days are bound to become stronger when there is money involved.

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October 06, 2024, 09:20:52 PM
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I dont think money is the root of all evil. It's more about how people choose to use it. Sure, some people do bad stuff for money like crimes, stealing, killing others, but that's on them, not the money itself. It is the person that is doing those stuffs who is evil. There are tons of people who use their wealth to help others and make the world a better place. Money can be used  for good if you let it. Blaming money is kinda missing the point - it's really all about personal choices and morals. Plus, without money, how would we trade or get things done?

In the end, money is just an object and the nature of them depends on us who are the subjects using the object.
In actual conditions it is not wrong to say that money is a source of evil but it needs to be underlined that not everything happens like that because in the end there is not a little money that is indeed a source of blessing when used by the right people.

Therefore there is a notion that do not want to be enslaved by money and indeed it is a thing that I agree with until now because in the end even though we all definitely need money because this is one tool that can change anything even that cannot be changed but we also should not be governed by money because when that happens it is precisely what is listed from the title where money becomes a source of evil can occur, Not a few people who go crazy and even darken their eyes just because of money so this is our function in placing ourselves whether we want to be the devil who only focuses on money and makes it a negative thing or instead we try to control money and do it as one of the blessings for ourselves.

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I dont think money is the root of all evil. It's more about how people choose to use it. Sure, some people do bad stuff for money like crimes, stealing, killing others, but that's on them, not the money itself. It is the person that is doing those stuffs who is evil. There are tons of people who use their wealth to help others and make the world a better place. Money can be used  for good if you let it. Blaming money is kinda missing the point - it's really all about personal choices and morals. Plus, without money, how would we trade or get things done?

In the end, money is just an object and the nature of them depends on us who are the subjects using the object.
In actual conditions it is not wrong to say that money is a source of evil but it needs to be underlined that not everything happens like that because in the end there is not a little money that is indeed a source of blessing when used by the right people.

True even the Christian scripture believes that money is not the root of evil, it is the love for money .  See the term love, putting money above all else makes it possible to be the root of evil since this triggers greed and we all know greed is one of the 7 deadly sin in Christian belief.  It is not the money but the greed spout out of the love of money that is the root of all evil and fear.

Therefore there is a notion that do not want to be enslaved by money and indeed it is a thing that I agree with until now because in the end even though we all definitely need money because this is one tool that can change anything even that cannot be changed but we also should not be governed by money because when that happens it is precisely what is listed from the title where money becomes a source of evil can occur, Not a few people who go crazy and even darken their eyes just because of money so this is our function in placing ourselves whether we want to be the devil who only focuses on money and makes it a negative thing or instead we try to control money and do it as one of the blessings for ourselves.


In short, let us be the one to control money not the love of money controlling us.
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The opportunities that rich people have are more open compared to the opportunities that poor people have, I think there will be differences of opinion from some people

Clearly things are like this when we refer to their money, because they are people who have the means to be able to cover everything they have as people , capital is something they have in order to solve any problem, while a poor person or someone from a middle class stratum, things are more difficult because almost everything is measured, so yes, the reason for money can vary between many people, this is what we need to see , however , for it to change from poor to rich is very difficult and many stay on the way, this is what influences the moment of the Difference between rich and poor.

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Money is actually not the root of evil, I agree with you on your view that a person's value in society is now a function of how much is in your bank account this is so because over time money has been worshipped and taken over the place of God, because the value that has been given to money by society is too much that is like if you don't have money is like you don't even exist
To say money is the root of evil is the same as saying Bitcoin is the source of money laundering. Money can be used for good or bad. After all, it's just a mean of exchange for organized socities.

However, it's true that money and those who have large sums of money on their banking accounts are worshipped by most people in society. Moreover, people are valued based on how much money they possess, instead of being valued by their true character. It's actually a big issue, because this dynamic encourages people to make money at all costs, while giving up on ethics and principles, since these aren't important in the modern relativist society we live.

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