Why There Are So Many Premier League 2024/2025 Threads In Gambling Discussion?

[Agbe]

Is this not spamming? And if it is not then what is "REALLY" spamming in the forum? And all the threads have the same purpose so I don't see any other person creating another thread when their is an already existing thread on that course. This thread Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025 was created on the August 24, 2020, 09:04:19 PM to discuss Premier League by Trofo and edited at August 01, 2024, 04:39:36 AM by Trofo to continue the discussion.

And again, this ⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽ by blue Snow in June 26, 2023, 12:43:19 AM and edited on July 16, 2024, 10:39:28 PM by blue Snow.

Again this ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2024/2025 was created for the same Premier League discussion on the September 12, 2020, 08:31:43 AM and edited on May 31, 2024, 02:02:03 PM by JollyGood.

Is it that one thread is not enough for the League discussion? And also those threads have been tagged as Mega threads and most campaign managers do not count posts from those threads. Though this not the born of contention here.

Since Premier League is seasonal, the threads should also be seasonal to follow up the league for effective discuss. And after the season, when new season is about to start, then the previous threads should be locked and new thread can be created to continue the discussion and not from the so called "MEGA THREAD".  And many users who made comments repeatedly on these threads are not spammers but others who make comments in them and in other threads in the gambling section are spammers. What is really happening in the forum?

I think one thread for Premier League is good enough for discussion. No harm and it is to know why? Or is there anything we have not yet known about the creation of threads in the gambling section? Because have not seen anyone says that those threads are related instead everyone follow up the threads. If other threads are one then likewise to the Premier League threads. One thread is good for the discussion. I really want to know something here.

[Helena Yu]

It was discussed before 4 Same Topic in Gambling Discussion section

Some users said this thread is created for sponsorship, that thread is created to prevent from spam, etc etc, but I don't care with that reasons, as long as the topic is same, the discussion is same, it should fall to "duplicate thread".

Is this not spamming? And if it is not then what is "REALLY" spamming in the forum?

The forum has double standard now, in the past someone that copied one post can get permanent banned, now even they already make multiple mistakes, they didn't get banned.

I believe there's someone who have report the thread, but if the thread didn't get locked, it means the forum didn't consider them as "spam".

Since Premier League is seasonal, the threads should also be seasonal to follow up the league for effective discuss. And after the season, when new season is about to start, then the previous threads should be locked and new thread can be created to continue the discussion and not from the so called "MEGA THREAD".

Anyone can create a new thread for each season, but you can't expect "them" i.e. @OP of that three thread to lock their old thread.

[_act_]

This belongs to meta and not reputation board. But such thread has been created before as you can see on the link that Agbe posted. What I just think is that we should leave it the way it is. Moderators have seen such complaints before in the but they do nothing about it.

[examplens]

Some users said this thread is created for sponsorship, that thread is created to prevent from spam, etc etc, but I don't care with that reasons, as long as the topic is same, the discussion is same, it should fall to "duplicate thread".

Users who open threads may have different motives or specific ideas of how it should look. Prediction thread, self-moderated etc... The result is that all such threads are active and a great place for gambling posts. In such cases, no matter what motives the users had for opening such discussions, it is very difficult to keep them in the right direction for years if there is the goal of fulfilling the signature quota.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I think the old thread opened by Trofo should stay and the rest that were open later on should be locked by mods.  What is the point of opening new threads if the old one is still active and is regularly updated by the OP who is also an active gambling board poster.

[hilariousandco]

There shouldn't really be more than one for the same thing, with the exception of if someone wanted to open up a self-modded one like Jolly good has done so that would be allowed.

[Majestic-milf]

 Personally I don't see the need for other threads that relate to Premier league when the one created by Trofo is meeting the requirement. This has been talked about before and I feel it's a matter that will be looked into but while we wait, instead of bringing up threads that may end up becoming part of the list of "unattended topics", the best thing is to post in the one you feel is suitable and relates to the matter you're discussing.

[xLays]

I already created a topic like this before. You can check Helena Yu's post where she mentioned the thread I created.

From what I understand, one of the reasons there are so many English Premier League threads is because of sponsorships by some online casinos. For example, there are separate discussion threads about contests or tournaments, like those by Sportsbet.io and another open thread about the Premier League by DGBet.fun. They should only discuss the pool tournament in that thread, but they can't hide that they also discussing what's happening in the EPL. The discussion about EPL should only be discussed in the original thread created by Trofo.

[LTU_btc]

That's actually even more Premier League threads. You didn't mentioned prediction pool and fantasy threads. But it's different stuff.
I agree that there shouldn't be multiple topics about same league. One regular thread and one self-moderated. Though, there should be some exceptions like fantasy or prediction pool because it's different kind of topics.

Since Premier League is seasonal, the threads should also be seasonal to follow up the league for effective discuss. And after the season, when new season is about to start, then the previous threads should be locked and new thread can be created to continue the discussion and not from the so called "MEGA THREAD". 

I don't see issue about it, unless author of topic is inactive and he doesn't update topic anymore, don't change it's title to new season.

[_BlackStar]

There shouldn't really be more than one for the same thing, with the exception of if someone wanted to open up a self-modded one like Jolly good has done so that would be allowed.

I think there should be a rule pinned to gambling discussion boards that say something like this. So the positive thing to hope for is that there are no more double thread about the same topic like the Premier League, La Liga or whatever. If such a rule is enforced - then every thread with the same topic can be reported for deletion instead of just being locked.

[Stablexcoin]

I believe this mistake was made once by the other persons who created a new premier league thread after trofo did. It is only the premier league thread that was created multiple times. Other threads like the LaLig, Champions League, Bundesliga, and AFCON only have one discussion thread. However, it is too late to delete those threads as some persons have found each of them worth discussing.

[Pokapoka124]

Since Premier League is seasonal, the threads should also be seasonal to follow up the league for effective discuss. And after the season, when new season is about to start, then the previous threads should be locked and new thread can be created to continue the discussion and not from the so called "MEGA THREAD".

The premier league season stretches from August to May. That’s about 9 months….there is no way a thread that is active for a 9 month period will not become a mega thread.

This topic was discussed a while back and Helena Yu gave the link to the post. The topic contains a lot of information about why these threads are still existing.

And many users who made comments repeatedly on these threads are not spammers but others who make comments in them and in other threads in the gambling section are spammers. What is really happening in the forum?

If you’re worried about getting mixed with spammers, you can post in the EPL thread that is self moderated. The OP is a football fan and does his best to clean the thread. The narrative that the Gambling board and Altcoin discussions is a spammer’s den is not going to change because there is some truth to it.

[Learn Bitcoin]

I remember creating a discussion thread for World Cup cricket a year ago or so, which was deleted within a couple of hours. I did not know the reason, but later, I found that another user had created a similar thread to discuss World Cup cricket. So, possibly, that thread was deleted because of a duplicate discussion. But if you check all of the gambling boards, there are a couple of discussions that are duplicates, and Agbe just mentioned one of them. There were some threads in the Bitcoin discussion board about teaching Bitcoin to children, and I guess there were more than two threads ( I guess three). If you do not allow duplicate threads at all, it is okay. However, double standards for some specific threads are not appreciated.

[Lucius]

There shouldn't really be more than one for the same thing, with the exception of if someone wanted to open up a self-modded one like Jolly good has done so that would be allowed.

Does this mean that each topic could have at least one more duplicate if it were self-moderated, or could there be more if each was self-moderated? Given that everyone will moderate in their own way, someone could say that this would justify a hundred identical topics started by a hundred different users.

[hilariousandco]

There shouldn't really be more than one for the same thing, with the exception of if someone wanted to open up a self-modded one like Jolly good has done so that would be allowed.

I think there should be a rule pinned to gambling discussion boards that say something like this. So the positive thing to hope for is that there are no more double thread about the same topic like the Premier League, La Liga or whatever. If such a rule is enforced - then every thread with the same topic can be reported for deletion instead of just being locked.

Well the general forum rules apply to that board. If you think threads break the rules then you can report them for such.

There shouldn't really be more than one for the same thing, with the exception of if someone wanted to open up a self-modded one like Jolly good has done so that would be allowed.

Does this mean that each topic could have at least one more duplicate if it were self-moderated, or could there be more if each was self-moderated? Given that everyone will moderate in their own way, someone could say that this would justify a hundred identical topics started by a hundred different users.

I don't know. Theymos will have to clarify. It would be a bit of a loophole if allowed. I guess for serious threads we should allow people to moderate them as they like, but maybe not just generic sports discussion threads which are already spammed to death with poor quality posts.

[YOSHIE]

Why There Are So Many Premier League 2024/2025 Threads In Gambling Discussion?

The Premier League is one of the football leagues that is easy to discuss and is generally known by many people, farmers, sailors and even officials who follow the Premier League, so don't be surprised if you make a thread about this league in one hour it can cover two pages, From people talking about the corner of the goal to the corner of the field.

Talking about many Premier League threads in the betting section, that's their right as I said, you discuss clubs and game schedules, other threads discuss pitch angles, after all not everyone likes the threads you make, for some reason, so they want to also take part in it, I'm talking regardless of spam, it's a mod thing that judges.

[Agbe]

Why There Are So Many Premier League 2024/2025 Threads In Gambling Discussion?

The Premier League is one of the football leagues that is easy to discuss and is generally known by many people, farmers, sailors and even officials who follow the Premier League, so don't be surprised if you make a thread about this league in one hour it can cover two pages, From people talking about the corner of the goal to the corner of the field.

Talking about many Premier League threads in the betting section, that's their right as I said, you discuss clubs and game schedules, other threads discuss pitch angles, after all not everyone likes the threads you make, for some reason, so they want to also take part in it, I'm talking regardless of spam, it's a mod thing that judges.

This subboard is like the Supreme Court where the final verdict is taken/given and also used for future reference and preceded or persuasive in other case and that is why when we make comments on things like this we should be careful. As you can see from the above comments, Lucius asked hilariousandco a very good question and he carefully answered it and said let theymos answer question, because what we say here has a very big meaning so we don't just have to come here say things from ordinary mindset but critical reasoning with logic answers. If you are saying "Premier League is an important game or event there multiple threads are allowed to be created" so that everyone should discuss the one they like, no problem. Remember we will use it as preceded when another important events/games take place in the forum and multiple threads are created to discuss. And I raised many issues on those threads. 1. They are Mega threads so some managers not count on them. 2. Since they are multiple there. Are they not spamming?

These are critical issues to discuss and what hilariousandco said in his first clause was nice and what Lucius said about the second clause is good as well. Multiple (the same purpose) creation of threads were strongly against the rules, and that was why in 202/223 would cup, many threads were deleted and locked. But seen this is somehow confusing. I asked again, if this multiplication is not a spammer then, Who is a spammer?

[_BlackStar]

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Well the general forum rules apply to that board. If you think threads break the rules then you can report them for such.

I understand - but so far I have never reported duplicate threads when both owners have different motives. I mean - one of them makes the thread self-moderated, the other one doesn't and it already has thousands of pages. But maybe - I'll also get some other threads to report if I think one of them is breaking the rules.

One thing that annoys me about reports on gambling discussions is that - many of them are not handled or even end badly. That's why I rarely report posts there anymore - but whenever I find a useless post, a report will definitely be sent.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

I never noticed on this until Op made the mention on it, though by seeing it, what i sue to think of is about their season differences, but seeing that we have many threads on the same season is what should be more checked on, though there are lots of threads on the gambling section and the creation of more topics and posts are often observed as well, which may also make it hard to notice except one is checking with a closer look, just as Agbe did.

[uchegod-21]

This has been like this for a while and the community has discussed it severally. None of those threads is less than 100 pages, so they are already established. What I will not like to see is another person creating new thread again. Let's make due with these ones available. That is the reason I made this appeal at the beginning of this season and locked the thread. Hey! It's a new season
So, no one has created an identical thread since I raised the topic.