notblox1 vs AB de Royse777 controversy discussion thread

[Poker Player]

I didn't want to get involved in this matter, especially not to play devil's advocate, but what you can't do is start a reputation thread and delete almost all the responses just because you don't like what they're saying.

Since you're not letting people share their opinions in your thread, I'm opening this one so people can give their thoughts on you, on AB de Royse777, or the issue that seems to have sparked your thread—namely that he didn't pay you for a review on another forum.

The fact that you've deleted 80% of the responses so far is pretty ridiculous.

In case somebody reading this hasn't heard what's going on, this is the original thread:

Damaged by Royse?

And this seems to be the origin of the dispute:

Possible related discussion outside this forum, https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324112.0. CMIIW.

[mindrust]

That's why I almost never post in self moderated threads. I ignore them mostly. People say they'll remove spam but that is usually not what happens. They only remove the posts the don't like. Then what's the point? I don't even need to read what's in the thread because I know that's some coward posting crap and afraid of the potential answers.

[Coyster]

I don't think it is necessary for drama to be spilling over from another forum into this one, since it happened in the other forum, i think it should stay there, because "teleporting accounts" is the only reason why you can identify a single user on both forums.

Deleting posts that you don't like in a self moderated thread is not right, why start the thread in the first place if all you want to hear is what you like. If you start a thread against another user, you should leave it open for others to contribute.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

That's why I almost never post in self moderated threads. I ignore them mostly. People say they'll remove spam but that is usually not what happens. They only remove the posts the don't like. Then what's the point? I don't even need to read what's in the thread because I know that's some coward posting crap and afraid of the potential answers.

That's unfortunate, but I know exactly where you're coming from and I tend to be wary of them myself.  I've noticed that whenever I've started up a self-moderated thread I get way fewer responses than I'd normally get if it was just a standard, moderator-moderated one. 

Anyway, that is indeed messed up if notblox1 is deleting posts en masse because of reasons not related to quality or being on-topic or whatever.  He could have made a local rule (or multiple rules) in the OP and then reported posts to the mods if they violated them.  Not great forum etiquette.  BTW, what the hell kind of forum is altcoinstalks?  Just that name alone makes my head hurt.

With regard to what notblox1's thread was about, I've dealt with Royse off-forum and didn't have much in the way of problems with him, but that was before his reputation got tarnished.  Once that happens to some members, where they end up becoming a pariah in the community, sometimes they just roll with it and their behavior takes a turn for the worse.  I've seen that happen here before with members like aTriz and some others--and I'm not saying that's what happened with Royse, just stating my thoughts.  After the Bitlucy thing, it seemed like Royse couldn't do anything right in the eyes of our critical bitcointalk circles. 

[Cantsay]

Deleting posts that you don't like in a self moderated thread is not right, why start the thread in the first place if all you want to hear is what you like. If you start a thread against another user, you should leave it open for others to contribute.

I didn’t say anything about the issue at altcoinstalks [I honest don’t know what happened] but what I know for sure is that the reason he created that thread or he decided to move the thread to this forum was because the mod and admin of the other forum refused to moderate his thread so he could not do anything about it.

Those that read the topic over there [it also spread to a different area of the forum] and saw how it ended would instantly know that this thread here would be massively moderated and anything that doesn’t fit well with him will be removed.

[Charles-Tim]

I posted on his thread. Some other people posted on his thread. He deleted most of the posts. I wished to have given him neutral trust as a warning for people to know how he is deleting people's posts on the self-moderated thread but I just do not want to be biased about it. But for what notblox1did by deleting people's posts and also moderating accusation thread again someone, I think he is out of his mind.

Edit:
I guess I have no option but to let people know not to post on that thread. He still keep deleting people's posts.

[Rikafip]

BTW, what the hell kind of forum is altcoinstalks?  Just that name alone makes my head hurt.

As the name name says, its crypto forum with focus on altcoins. It became more popular after mixer ban on bitcointalk as its possible to advertise mixers there.

Deleting posts that you don't like in a self moderated thread is not right

People start self moderated threads due exactly that reason, but in that case it would be good to set some local rules so people don't waste their time posting there. Or at least not delete posts without a good reason.

[The Cryptovator]

When you raise allegations against someone or against an organisation, then the thread shouldn't be self-moderated. I saw yesterday that thread and ignored to respond there. If anyone has any complaints against Royse, then they should discuss it openly, it doesn't necessarily mean sending evidence or something else in DM. Problems could be solved in public discussion. If something is private, then it should be solved privately. However, personally, I don't have any issue with Royse, nor am I involved with any of his business. 

[worldofcoins]

The guy is likely pissed for not getting 30$ for his review.

Edit: The guy reserved 2 more posts after ranting on a big page in alttalk 

[cryptoaddictchie]

Deleting posts that you don't like in a self moderated thread is not right, why start the thread in the first place if all you want to hear is what you like. If you start a thread against another user, you should leave it open for others to contribute.

I think thats right. Self moderated in my opinion has been there to let the OP clean up some possible spam and out of topic response to sort out the cleanliness of the subject.

But with regards with this one, its the opposite since he deleted mostly of the comment. Nobody wanted dispute on forum. I also commented on that and seen my post deleted too.

The guy is likely pissed for not getting 30$ for his review.

Yeah so the thread on altcointalks, it seems that the cause of heated drama. Anyway hope they settled it soon to lessen issues here.

[LTU_btc]

Not really sure what happened between them and I'm not really interested. But for me it's a bit strange behaviour when you ask question or opinion and when you get responses, you delete it. But it's self-moderated topics, you shouldn't be surprised when such things happens.

[notblox1]

This is going to be my first and last post in this topic.

I said in my topic that I dont like wasting time talking about other members, unlike pokerplayer, and I only asked people to contact me if they have been damaged by royse.
I was not asking for conspiracy theory conversations about other members, speculations, cookbook recipes, guide how to stop being an addict, or anything else.
It is not my problem if someone doesnt understand that.

OP thank you for calling me a fool for being a moderator in my own self-moderated topic, and if you have nothing better to do in your life than talk about me if you want.

 

[Agbe]

When you raise allegations against someone or against an organisation, then the thread shouldn't be self-moderated. I saw yesterday that thread and ignored to respond there. If anyone has any complaints against Royse, then they should discuss it openly, it doesn't necessarily mean sending evidence or something else in DM. Problems could be solved in public discussion. If something is private, then it should be solved privately. However, personally, I don't have any issue with Royse, nor am I involved with any of his business.

Exactly and that was what I said in his thread and he deleted the comment. Such attitude is not really good. Poker Player thanks for this thread to discuss the guy. I wanted to create such thread only for me to this one. If notblox1 has issue with AB de Royse777, he doesn't need third party to provide evidence for him to use it to nail AB de Royse777 to the wall but he has to find the evidence by himself and if any other person has issues with AB de Royse777, the person should also create his or her own thread. Don't use another person evidence to accused person. notblox1 would have died the matter over there in the other forum. But extending it to this side shows that, he is not matured enough. If he wanted to discuss what happened there in this side then there was no need to delete other people comments again. With what he has displayed, he is an incompetent poster in the forum. Yes it is good to air his anger but it is not with this manner.

[SamReomo]

It's better to not make posts in threads that are self-moderated because in those thread you can't really share your honest opinion about an issue because if your opinion somehow offends the OP of the thread then that might gets deleted without any prior warning.

I personally try to avoid posting in self-moderated topics because it's just like waste of one's energy and nothing else. But, I believe that topics in reputation board should not be self-moderated as in that board everyone should be allowed to share their opinion fearlessly.

[worldofcoins]

This is going to be the my first and last post in this topic.

I said in my topic that I dont like wasting time talking about other members, unlike pokerplayer, and I only asked people to contact me if they have been damaged by royse.
I was not asking for conspiracy theory conversations about other members, speculations, cookbook recipes, guide how to stop being an addict, or anything else.
It is not my problem if someone doesnt understand that.

OP thank you for calling me a fool for being a moderator in my own self-moderated topic, and if you have nothing better to do in your life than talk about me if you want.

 

You could have said “I don’t enough proof to take down someone who didn’t pay me 30$ and if someone has something against the user I am targeting then please send it to me I can’t see them progress in life”

Btw what’s left to write in those 2 reserved posts after complaining that long.

You have a weird fetish of appreciating being called fool for making a thread.
It’s another thing you’re deleting on-topic replies from the users who are neutral/against the matter… The topic is supposed to talk on the matter.. You said “Contact me on the matter” could have locked the thread after your miserable post after it and keep on bumping it up in hope you get your revenge for not getting 30$.

[Stalker22]

I dont want to take sides in this or the previous case that led to the creation of this thread. However, I do think that people have the right to delete any posts they want in their self-moderating threads. Thats the very purpose of a self-moderating thread. If you dont like this and are concerned that your post might be deleted, it is probably best to avoid replying in such threads.  Although, I agree with Rikafip, some local rules and basic guidelines would be welcome to help maintain a more positive and productive discussion.  Of course, even with well-defined rules, there will always be room for interpretation. So, it is again up to the OP to decide which posts to delete and which not to.

[worldofcoins]

I dont want to take sides in this or the previous case that led to the creation of this thread. However, I do think that people have the right to delete any posts they want in their self-moderating threads. Thats the very purpose of a self-moderating thread. If you dont like this and are concerned that your post might be deleted, it is probably best to avoid replying in such threads.  Although, I agree with Rikafip, some local rules and basic guidelines would be welcome to help maintain a more positive and productive discussion.  Of course, even with well-defined rules, there will always be room for interpretation. So, it is again up to the OP to decide which posts to delete and which not to.

The guys is not telling what not to write in the thread, deleting the replies of users he thinks not helping him or prevent others from giving him proof against 🌹. He however didn’t delete Dave’s reply for some reason.

And not locking the thread.

[KingsDen]

I posted on his thread. Some other people posted on his thread. He deleted most of the posts. I wished to have given him neutral trust as a warning for people to know how he is deleting people's posts on the self-moderated thread but I just do not want to be biased about it. But for what notblox1did by deleting people's posts and also moderating accusation thread again someone, I think he is out of his mind.

Edit:
I guess I have no option but to let people know not to post on that thread. He still keep deleting people's posts.

I personally do not think that the neutral tag is worth it. I read your post in his self moderated thread, it was very much on topic and doesn't deserve to be deleted. My own post was also deleted by him but I took it in a good fate.
If you are going to post in a self moderated thread, be willing to accept harsh moderation

[Stalker22]

The guys is not telling what not to write in the thread, deleting the replies of users he thinks not helping him or prevent others from giving him proof against 🌹. He however didn’t delete Dave’s reply for some reason.

And not locking the thread.

Again, not playing devil's advocate here, but he did mention what he expected from his thread. Everything else can be considered off-topic according to his view. He has every right to delete whatever the hell he wants in his self-moderating thread. Just like anyone else can.

[JollyGood]

There could be many reasons why self-moderated threads are created. I currently actively support several threads that are self-moderated to keep spammers away and one of them is the Premier League thread. It was created in 2020 and as of now shows: 560 posts by 54 users with 2 merit deleted.

Keeping that aside, I noticed the self-moderated thread before many of the posts were deleted. If he had explained the rules clearly in his OP (in a way that did not leave room for multiple interpretations), the subsequent mess most probably would have been avoided.

I dont want to take sides in this or the previous case that led to the creation of this thread. However, I do think that people have the right to delete any posts they want in their self-moderating threads. Thats the very purpose of a self-moderating thread. If you dont like this and are concerned that your post might be deleted, it is probably best to avoid replying in such threads.  Although, I agree with Rikafip, some local rules and basic guidelines would be welcome to help maintain a more positive and productive discussion.  Of course, even with well-defined rules, there will always be room for interpretation. So, it is again up to the OP to decide which posts to delete and which not to.