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September 14, 2024, 02:27:29 PM
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The Chinese don't play around when it comes to sentencing wrongdoers 🥵
What's what make China great, they're harsh and objective with the punishment they gave. Harsh punishment is better than unfair punishment.

Their brutal judgement may also be the reason Son accepted he did it, because in an interview his response showed some signs of innocence. And he also mentioned being forced to accept the allegation, or his wife will go into detention. Who do we believe?

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"I never took part in match-fixing," Son told a news conference. "The only evidence they have is my false confession made under coercion," he added, breaking down in tears.
"I was threatened that if I didn't accept the charges, my wife would be arrested and investigated, too."

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In this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyheP28eeuM he testified that the judge promised him freedom, in 3 days, if he agrees to the allegation of receiving $28,120, and he'll also continue his career. We can look into the story from both sides. Is it admissible for a player to risk his career because of 28k dollars? Also, for the profits involved, wouldn't he get a bigger offer above what he allegedly got? Overall, why would he cry for nothing? Something may have been concealed behind the scene.

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September 14, 2024, 02:27:56 PM
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It's good that they have been caught and will be imprisoned for manipulating the games. I think having direct contact with teams and betting on them would result in bad things. I think they would reach the point where they know that they will be caught.

It might have been easy for them if they had the right connections, and people who are greedy will also be influenced.

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September 14, 2024, 02:38:19 PM
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Match fixing has always been a problem in sports and the stakes are higher at the higher level. At modern times, high level leagues and national sports associations keeps a good eye on players activities and balances and we believe there are lesser of those match and spot fixings. But again sports is also used as a way of laundering your money as well as tax evasion, leagues associated with business and clubs bought by rich people. When there's too much money involved, there could be many loopholes to take advantage of.
The correct response to every proved instance of match fixing and spot fixing is life time ban but it would have not much effect when they are already retired or have kept their money on some safe haven and enjoying their life.

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September 14, 2024, 02:38:38 PM
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In my opinion, the punishment should go beyond just a lifetime ban. Corruption in sports affects millions of fans and bettors worldwide who trust the outcomes to be fair. Players who take part in these activities should face criminal charges as well, depending on the severity of their involvement.

As for the connection with casinos, it’s quite possible that some of these players work with gambling establishments or criminal networks behind the scenes. It’s not just an individual decision, it often involves organized groups that profit from rigged outcomes. The whole system, from players to gambling institutions, should be investigated and held accountable to protect the integrity of the game.

It is true that cases like this must be resolved to the root, where sometimes the champion has to be willing to lose for the sake of greedy people, I think this does not only happen in China but in every country, and this incident often occurs when there is an event between countries such as the World Cup

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September 14, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
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This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.
And now I know the reason why an athlete in some sports are usually banned from gambling, most especially same game, in other to avoid stories such as this, because it's literally not fair for these people to have been taking advantage of games to their personal profit, despite the fact that they knew such act was against the rules.

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If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?
Banning them for life from gambling should be a reasonable punishment giving to people that fall victim to this illegal act, because you literally can't kill them, hence, preventing them from having access to fix a game later in the future and gambling is a better punishment

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Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?
Most times, I think a casino may have a hand in fix matches, especially on games on small league, whereas, when it comes to big leagues, then the referee or coach likely to do that.

 
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September 14, 2024, 04:06:00 PM
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Imagine if law enforcement could track the amount of money they robbed from people. Anything over $1 million stolen results in death by firing squad or something crazy. Really no reason tax payers of any country should have to pay to house these fucktards for the next xxx years. Maximum punishment might really put an end to the corruption.
The article mentions that they were fixing matches for a period of approximately two years; imagine how many matches were fixed and for what amounts of money we're talking. And that's if we suppose that the two years are actually two and not more. Imagine the amounts of money we're talking about; I'm guessing it should be at least a few million dollars worth of bets. It would be interesting to see if law enforcement went through their bank accounts and confiscated all their funds.

 
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September 14, 2024, 04:54:08 PM
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Match-fixing is an act that is detrimental to many parties, because it not only benefits the parties involved but also they tarnish the sportsmanship of football through the actions they take. Chinese officials have done the right thing by banning them for life for these despicable activities. This also proves that match-fixing is still a problem in football and there are many mafias, officials, and players, who still take advantage of it to make a profit - and that further risks bettors who want to bet on smaller leagues because of this problem.

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September 14, 2024, 05:09:33 PM
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If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?
Because it's only a life ban given as an offense, that's why the issue of corruption and match-fixing exists in football matches despite a life ban. If a few months or years of imprisonment are added as an offense to players or top officials who default to gambling, this terrible act will be curtailed

It's quite fortunate that some human beings are ready to risk their careers for personal benefits which can be classified as greediness. You can imagine how shameful it can be that one's career is over because of a simple act they can afford not to be involved with.

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September 14, 2024, 05:14:52 PM
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The Chinese don't play around when it comes to sentencing wrongdoers 🥵, and for a country that I dont really consider as a footballing nation .this is a harsh punishment to be honest, why not go for a hefty fine and a couple of years behind bars so that when they serve they can be the ambassadors to dicourage their fellow professional footballers from this bad business practice that seems to be growing all around the world...

Am just hoping these are the big fish and not some agents being implicated.

Well the thing is, in China not only is match fixing obviously against the law but also gambling. So the culprits in question basically got double the punishment because of double the damage. A life sentence is truly crazy and over the top but they took the risk and got caught, if you do this in a place like China then god be with you.  Tongue
That's what you need to be aware of if you do something like this in China unfortunately, officials ( also obviously corrupt as fk ) don't play around when something like this happens. Guess the guys didn't pay off enough people.

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September 14, 2024, 05:26:01 PM
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It is avoidable and you can reduce the chance of your bet to be of fixed matches. Go for top leagues like EPL, La Liga, Seria A, France Lique 1 and some the top leagues.

It is true, the chances of match fixing in top leagues like the ones you mentioned should be next to impossible because the clubs and players are very rich. I doubt that anybody that is personally involved in these leagues will risk their reputations and the kind of money that they earn to be involved in match fixing. But I won't be surprised about match fixing scandals in lower and unpopular leagues because you can't compare them in anyway with these top reputable leagues. I'm not very familiar with the Chinese football league and I guess that match fixing is possible there and in any other regular leagues. China, is a no nonsense country and I'm not surprised to hear about their harsh punishment on the offenders
I don't know how frequently people watch the Chinese leagues and other leagues that are not too popular. But if I must say I understand and agree that match-fixing can happen in those leagues. Their officials are not so strict like the Premier League and other top leagues in football. And any player who has decided to be part of those who are interested in fixing a match even then does not value their football career. Such players are not allowed to support their country in international games.
I do not watch South Korean footballs but I am sure that I have staked in some of their games lately and I can't remember if the match ended well or not. Well, leagues that are not popular can easily tricky, just like the way Son Jun-ho for fixing football games. I don't believe that such things also exist in those popular leagues that you mentioned.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?
The ban is okay, and I suggest that they should be given a second chance. Maybe after a long time.
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No they don't, the players are just selfish because they are gaining something from the games that they fixed. If they are not gaining anything from in those games that they are fixing they wouldn't have been doing it.











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September 14, 2024, 05:38:31 PM
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If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?
I'm not sure that either such players work hand in hand with some bookies but I'm pretty sure that match-fixing is a very bad act one does and such person should get proper punishment for that act.

Getting banned from gambling for life time is a good punishment for such match fixers but I believe that there should be some more punishments for such fixers like fining them with at least $100k or even more severe punishment than that.

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Am I the only one who is noticing the term Allegedly?

It means there's no proof yet to claim the wrong doings so you can sentence someone based on suspicion and even banning the player doesn't seem fair I smell some political game involved in this.

I doubt we will see any severe punishment even if they were proved to be involved in match fixing, they can ban the player temporarily or permanently.

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From what I read on Portuguese news channels, Son Jun-ho told the South Korean press that he is innocent and did not understand anything of what he was being accused of. He also said that the Chinese threatened his family and that is why he had to confess to something he did not do. But he considers himself innocent. Cameroonian Ewolo Donovan was also punished. In my opinion, I would not trust anything that comes from China. They may be doing this as a way of sending away foreign players who receive high salaries. Because there are cases of players and directors who are involved in this alleged scheme who received less severe punishments. Which clearly shows that this is a case with obscure motivations on the part of the Chinese government.

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September 14, 2024, 06:18:09 PM
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It is avoidable and you can reduce the chance of your bet to be of fixed matches. Go for top leagues like EPL, La Liga, Seria A, France Lique 1 and some the top leagues.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?
They should also be put in jail for like 6 months would be better. But the reason they are not doing that is because they believe the name of the player has no reputation again. No club will buy the player. No salary again. So they do not consider jail to be worth it.

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos?
They do not need to work with bookies before they will manipulate.
The truth is that there is no League that could not be vulnerable to such match fixing scheme, this is the most events that give birth to some games call fixed game's, although the chances for a match to be fixed are lower in the international league and very visible in the local league, the Chinese government have strict punishment for corruption as you can see from the news that some other offenders got life in prison, this is hard enough and I wish other countries around the world will treat corruption in such light as china.


Match fixing have been a lot visible since the coming of gambling and the whales will always want to manipulate the market, that is why most countries bans football officials and players from gambling, but even at that some of them still gamble and involved in match fixing in one way or the other.

 
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The article mentions that they were fixing matches for a period of approximately two years; imagine how many matches were fixed and for what amounts of money we're talking. And that's if we suppose that the two years are actually two and not more. Imagine the amounts of money we're talking about; I'm guessing it should be at least a few million dollars worth of bets. It would be interesting to see if law enforcement went through their bank accounts and confiscated all their funds.

I doubt if it's just going to be a few million dollars but rather a huge unimaginable sum of money that they have accumulated from their greedy corrupt act, while they must have also cost bettors to lose a huge sum of money. If the authorities can actually go through their account and cease some of those funds, then sentence them to jail too.

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We usually hear how some players and top officials are corrupt in terms of football matches, just in China, Son Jun-ho, a form former South Korean player and 43 other were banned for life for gambling and match-fixing.

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Chinese football on Tuesday banned 43 people for life over alleged gambling and match-fixing, including three former China internationals and South Korean player Son Jun-ho,

The 43 were among 128 people implicated in total in a two-year probe into illegal gambling and match-fixing in the domestic game,

The Chinese Football Association (CFA) accused Son, who played for Shandong Taishan in the Chinese Super League, of participating in match-fixing and taking bribes.

China’s football governing body has itself been under scrutiny — about 10 high-ranking CFA officials have so far been brought down in corruption probes.

The government in March handed a lifetime prison sentence to Chen Xuyuan,

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This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?

I would not like to be this guy, because of all the places to get caught cheating - China is probably one of the worst. The government their does not like anything that tarnishes their reputation, they are quite happy with cheating going on if it makes the country look better, but if it is ever found out and released publicly then you will pay dearly. Not quite to the levels of North Korea punishing generations of your family, but they can make you disappear rather easily or give you a very long jail sentence. It sounds like a wide scale scam as well and the ringleaders usually get punished quite severely. They will likely have to pay back any money with fines on top, along with getting prison sentences.

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September 14, 2024, 08:07:32 PM
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If the authorities can actually go through their account and cease some of those funds, then sentence them to jail too.
That would be a good move from the authorities as such criminals should go to jail and they may not get bail for at least a year so they can understand the pain of others. They fulfill their own desires and loot money of the poor players by fixing the matches, and for such act they should get behind the bars for at least a year or more.

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September 14, 2024, 08:34:43 PM
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This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.
Most of the games that are being fixed are the domestic leagues, most of these top leagues are always difficult to fix because the officials already know the risk involved in fixing matches. That’s why I don’t just involve myself in most of the local sports in my country because I know most of the top officials are corrupt, and even if things like this happen, it’s going to be difficult to figure it out because even the people that are supposed to investigate things like dis are corrupt already.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?
That’s cheating. seriously, I will say ban is not really enough, their punishment should be more, they have committed a great crime by cheating people, that’s just greediness, so seriously, I will say their punishment should be more, at least it will serve as an example to others trying to do the same.

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Match fixing is a serious business and highly secretive. How they were able to uncover this large scale match fixing scandal is really a mystery and shows how big the business is. Now it make more sense how some matches turn out in terms of their results because I remember suffering devastating losses in the Chinese Super League many times in the past. I can only imagine how many matches these group of 128 persons have influenced thereby making the general gambling public to lose money whereas only those with insider information will make money from the fixed matches.

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September 14, 2024, 09:47:28 PM
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We usually hear how some players and top officials are corrupt in terms of football matches, just in China, Son Jun-ho, a form former South Korean player and 43 other were banned for life for gambling and match-fixing.

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Chinese football on Tuesday banned 43 people for life over alleged gambling and match-fixing, including three former China internationals and South Korean player Son Jun-ho,

The 43 were among 128 people implicated in total in a two-year probe into illegal gambling and match-fixing in the domestic game,

The Chinese Football Association (CFA) accused Son, who played for Shandong Taishan in the Chinese Super League, of participating in match-fixing and taking bribes.

China’s football governing body has itself been under scrutiny — about 10 high-ranking CFA officials have so far been brought down in corruption probes.

The government in March handed a lifetime prison sentence to Chen Xuyuan,

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This suggests that some match that we stake on usually get influenced by some corrupt players or top football official and we are not aware of this.

If any player is caught is such corrupt act, do you think they should only be ban for life from gambling or more punishment should be attached to it?

Also, do you think that those players work hand in hand with some casinos bookies?
There's no saying what the real situation was for those players that were banned, that is, if they worked in collaboration with the bookies or not, but it could be possible that something of such can be arranged, because the gambling owners will surely make a good cut and keep the business running.

Still, it is not as if the society sees gambling as a holy and worthy game of sort, but banning such persons shouldn't be just enough punishment without having  a detailed confession on accomplices and alibi present.

Corruption like this, is no longer restricted to politics and football and other sports, it is a shadow that sticks to the money trail of those greedy people who love to exploit systems for their selfish gains.
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