Using casino bonus frequently is an abused?

[Lanatsa]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Winz.io and the casino you are trying to play at is not the same. Each casino has different rules.  Just because Winz has a bonus that resets every 3 days and allows you to avail that bonus every time, doesn't mean that the other casino will allow you to do the same. In fact most casinos will actually restrict you from claiming bonuses if you keep on winning from those bonus without risking anything. Read their terms. It is most likely written some where on their terms of service about the bonus abuse where just depositing to claim bonus is considered an abuse. If they completely restricted your account, you can ask them to return your funds. They usually return the deposited amount out of good will.

Then why they had put it up in the first place? If they do have that kind of treatment on which putting up some deposit bonus but since you are winning up then they would be just tagging you that you've been abusing it? LOL! Being lucky is something that would be totally random and we do all know that but just like the rest been saying on here that casinos do really hate up to those gamblers who do often win despite of the disadvantages on where these bonuses is really that having but still they do able to manage to have some withdrawal on which we know that only a few could be able to get out. Most casinos would really be having that identical terms and conditions when it comes to this and it would really be that too odd if those things you do mentioned above is really that their true approach into those gamblers who do took the bonus
and ending up on getting called abuser.  

We do know that bonuses does have that kind of terms and conditions on threshold on which it would really be putting up gamblers into disadvantages. For someone who doesnt mind about on the wagering requirement and really just that want to make their capital even more bigger to make that having that longer duration or period for them to play then they would really be that a fan of making use of these bonuses just for that sake.If it turns out that they are making money with it or profits then this do basically shows up that there would really be those people who are lucky enough.

[Akbarkoe]

There have been similar complaints against this casino. Even a neutral third party like AskGamblers could not find any justification for them accusing a player of abusing their bonuses.
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/winz-io-account-disabled-due-to-abuse

If they don’t like how players are using this bonus they should maybe change their terms to make it clear what is considered abuse. It is not a good look when they restrict players that haven’t broken any rules but are only playing in a way they don’t like.

This is already a serious case. I hope the player at least got his deposit back. Judging by the fact that this happened in 2023, the casino nevertheless drew conclusions and now only limits the player's ability to use bonuses (which, in my opinion, is quite fair since the bonus is basically the goodwill of the casino and not an obligation) and does not block his account completely.

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

[junder]

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

When a casino provides options or choices of promotions and bonuses that can be taken by players, of course they will maximize them by fulfilling what they have given to customers at the beginning, because it is indeed one of the conveniences for players so that they stay at their casino, because if they do not fulfill what they have given at the beginning to their customers, I think customers will feel disappointed with the possibility of being reluctant to visit and play again at the casino and of course it will reduce the reputation of the casino. In addition, I think the casino will provide an explanation that is detailed enough for its customers to understand, but sometimes there are people who do not understand enough to meet the requirements, I myself understand but with this understanding makes me reluctant to take or choose the bonus or promotion option, therefore I prefer to play with my own pure capital.

[ethereumhunter]

Casinos are running up a business on which it would really be that understandable that they would really be having that kind of ways on how to make themselves to be more profitable on which making up some bonuses
are part of it. Its true that i dont see any interesting something about bonuses on which we know that wagering requirements are really that too high. There's no way that you could really be able to make yourself
that having that kind of advantage but rather its a pure disadvantage for most gamblers not unless if you would really be that extremely lucky then you might be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage but in overall its really that hard to believe that you could really be able to make yourself that easily get out with using up some bonuses.

The issue on here is that when house do prohibits you out on acquiring or getting or activating some bonuses just because you are winning too much, then thats something a very shady act that been doing by a certain platform or casino. If you dont really like them because of such act then you could always choose up other platforms on which you cant be able to face up such limitation or ban or prohibition.
In return, then you could really make out some complaints and telling to those things that they did so that the community would be wary.

Casinos will give the promotion that benefits them because they know that from the exciting promotion, they will get more gamblers that will want to participate in the promotion. That means the casino will make a lot of money from that and that profit will be bigger if more gamblers can see the promotion. That is why they will share the promotion into their social medias to reach more gamblers to see the promotion and will go to their casino. That is why gamblers need to search more info about the promotion and read the requirement so they will not think that the casino is trap them with the promotion. The reputable casino will not trap their customer because they have a clear requirements that their customers to fills.

Casino will not allow their members to win many times so they will do something to hold you from participate or getting the bonuses. Maybe casino think that what you get from them is enough so they will allocate the bonus to the other gamblers. We really don't know how that can happen to us because we are just a gambler who playing gambling in their casino. It is our choice to playing gambling in certain casino but we have more option to playing gambling in the other casinos.

[bubilas]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

I think it is completely unlawful to limit a gambler in bonuses, as they did with you. I understand that in the terms of bonus programs it is always written in small print that they themselves determine who and how much bonuses to give, while they reserve the right to exclude participants from bonus programs without explanation. But the casino provides bonuses to lure players and appear in a better light, so why do they show themselves as misers who do not want the gambler to win a few dollars because of these small bonuses?
After all, the casino has a lot of money.
To my opinion this is strange and ugly actions.

If they are in a country where gambling is legal then yes the casino's policy may be against the law but if it is the other way around in the sense that they are in a country where gambling is prohibited then I don't think there is anything they can do because reporting the problem to the law would be a suicide idea anyway.
On the other hand I think the casino is a casino that is proven to be unfair, they limit the winnings of gamblers, even though it is clear that they are the ones who provide the bonus feature within a certain period of time which means that no matter how much the winnings are generated by the gamblers through the bonus it should not be a problem.

In the end I think it is better to avoid casinos like that if you really feel uncomfortable with all these unreasonable rules.

Yes, and I told this case, which connected with me to all my friends who were at this casino. But this is an old case, and recently I have not encountered something like this. In general, I want to express my respect to all the casinos presented on our forum, because I received bonus deposits from three different casinos - Blackjack, casino500 and BC, and they all showed themselves excellent. It was a pleasant experience, and what surprised me was that the casinos did not even allow you to play with bonus money, but you could immediately withdraw it! I did not expect that bonus programs in crypto casinos are now so loyal to customers.

[Odusko]

Sometimes it depends on the nature of the casino, but at most I always look away from bonuses to safe myself from the troubles that comes with them, sometimes the casino use bonuses as a form of a trapetfor the gamblers, but most times those casino have a long track record of unfriendly approach and even some have unresolved cases and accusations.

Most bonuses are a trap because the casino use them to hold you with that bonus and you have to keep betting more which makes make you to lose more money than you will be capable of winning. Casino bonuses are nice when they do not have too many criteria before you can benefit from the bonuses. There are some casino that their bonus are not worth it because it is difficult to get to activate the bonus. Constant using casino bonus is not an abused, you got the bonuses legitimately because the casino wants to appreciate their active users or new users and you are not abusing the bonus but when you open many accounts to try to cheat the bonus by getting offered the same bonus on your many accounts. Using just one account and getting many bonus is not an abuse.

We can't deny the fact that bonuses are some form of trap for gambler's because in a way, the casino only give you bonuses when you are about to start using their site, and also give you bonuses when their feels you have spent enough money on the casino and their feels you may want to leave the casino, and also casinos tend to change their bonus rule so easily and that is not how it surpose to be because an agreement is an agreement once a rule is made, there is no point going back to it anymore.

And once the rules is violated it means an abuse on the side of the gambler because at that point he will definitely feels cheated, so I have to deviate from the both of you in a bit since looking at things, there are time's that you may likely call the bonus a trap and at other times you may see those bonuses as savior, but the overall benefactors of those bonuses is the casino, since you will still have to gamble all the bonuses on their platform and without the ability to take them out of the platform, most cryptocurrency casinos have some rules in place and at some level those rules may be highly targeted to some level of gambler's most especially the high roller clients because that is where the money is for the casino.

But also lastly, in all, the most comfortable level of bonuses are those that are given without any form of conditions, at least no condition on high wager requirements on the bonuses this is some how easier to control.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

[Zadicar]

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

When a casino provides options or choices of promotions and bonuses that can be taken by players, of course they will maximize them by fulfilling what they have given to customers at the beginning, because it is indeed one of the conveniences for players so that they stay at their casino, because if they do not fulfill what they have given at the beginning to their customers, I think customers will feel disappointed with the possibility of being reluctant to visit and play again at the casino and of course it will reduce the reputation of the casino. In addition, I think the casino will provide an explanation that is detailed enough for its customers to understand, but sometimes there are people who do not understand enough to meet the requirements, I myself understand but with this understanding makes me reluctant to take or choose the bonus or promotion option, therefore I prefer to play with my own pure capital.

On the moment that people or gamblers would really be disappointed then they would really be leaving out the casino and would look for another one. Just like into this case on which a certain
user hadnt been able to acquire or activate some bonuses just because he do able to win up and telling that he's been abusing it? Even myself will really be finding this to be shady
and this is something that you would really be having the rights on going or playing into other platform on which we know that when it comes to this then you do have the choice.
It is really just that too shady if they will really be having that kind of claims about abuse without really giving out the real reason on whats the abuse is all about?

[KTChampions]

This is already a serious case. I hope the player at least got his deposit back. Judging by the fact that this happened in 2023, the casino nevertheless drew conclusions and now only limits the player's ability to use bonuses (which, in my opinion, is quite fair since the bonus is basically the goodwill of the casino and not an obligation) and does not block his account completely.

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

It is impossible to describe in detail all the cases that can occur, and even if it were possible, several days would not be enough for you to study such a ToS. For this case, any ToS always states that “the organization reserves the right to resolve disputes not described in the ToS.”
Personally, I have enough common sense to understand that a deposit every 3 days for the sake of a bonus will be considered abuse.

[fullhdpixel]

The thing is that frequent use of bonuses is something I really like and I can spend more time on it to get additional spins or increase our first deposit and so on. Obviously, the casino does this to attract new users, and of course they don't like it when the same players start using it, especially old ones and those who don't bet too much. But what's important is whether it is written in the rules that you can't use it multiple times. I understand that they will write that you can't abuse these promotions in the rules, but then let them write about it in the next line and in capital letters, then it will be clear that they feel sorry to give away part of the money for this.

But who wouldn't like them? I'm only referring to the literal bonus where it is given freely or without any catch or strings attached because I'm also aware that many casino bonuses are like that. It is like they are misleading their users. They are only lucky if they still can get a lot of customers but this can be because they still have something good (for real) to offer. Frequent use of bonus is not a form of abuse as long as we are following the rules properly.

Bonuses can come in many forms and it wasn't only the newbie users are rewarded but also and most importantly are the loyal users who keeps on coming back on the site because they are mainly the ones who bring a life to the casino. So, there is no need for a new user to abuse and avail the same type of bonus. They are only putting their accounts and funds at risk for it. I think most of us don't have an eye problem for us not read the rules clearly, so I think there is no need for them to capitalize it or highlight it.

Anyways, I haven't seen one who does that. That is only exaggerating. Gamblers must be on the right age and on their right minds to know what is wrong and what is right, so even if we say that there are no rules written about it, it does not mean that we will now proceed on abusing it.

[nara1892]

If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

Yes, what you said makes sense that if an account user is identified as committing a violation or when a gambler is notified that they have committed a serious violation, then the casino should block or limit their account at least for a certain period of time. And if your account can still be used until now, then it clearly means that there is no serious problem, or there is no serious violation.

And in this case I think it makes no sense to say that a gambler has abused the bonus, because after all it is a facility provided by the casino, meaning it is the right of a gambler and they are free to use the bonus for anything and in any way.

[Akbarkoe]

Even though the bonus is a good intention of the casino, but it's true what he said, at least the casino provides clarity on the terms of the bonus, I actually it is an obligation of the casino to its users, because after all they promised the bonus in their promotion, and it deserves to be accounted for by every casino that promises bonuses.

Using this statement of misuse makes little sense if there are no rules, as the user is blamed for using the bonus he received, for us users certainly need an explanation of the rules regarding the bonus, so that we no longer abuse again in the future (casinos must be wise in this regard).

It is impossible to describe in detail all the cases that can occur, and even if it were possible, several days would not be enough for you to study such a ToS. For this case, any ToS always states that “the organization reserves the right to resolve disputes not described in the ToS.”
Personally, I have enough common sense to understand that a deposit every 3 days for the sake of a bonus will be considered abuse.

If that is the case then in the phrase “bonus abuse” and any attempt to get bonuses consistently like that can be said to be unwritten rules, but this is difficult to accept for those who do not understand it and maybe even those who are provoked can say the casino is a scam, it is true that this will be difficult to explain in detail for every casino that has such a bonus mechanism, but it is good that they have to provide an explanation, and past problems can be ignored because of the updated rules.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

As long as you didn't utilize it the wrong way, why should it be labeled an abuse? Everything depends on how you go about them... But, I get it -- the casinos may have set a restriction to evade the frequent use of the bonus option.... Is this about WINZ.io?

Moreso, i don't even find too much of an interest in their bonuses whatsoever... I can't remember when I claimed any bonuses aside the strater packages so go ahead and have fun with the little you deposit man.

Yes, what you said makes sense that if an account user is identified as committing a violation[...]

You can't violate what hasn't been made a policy; any rule that wasn't on the TOS during the registration process, or updated prior to the mishap doesn't count as violation if done by a user. These casinos go too far with it sometimes that they lock your account without giving you an underlying reason

[mirakal]

I can't tell it's abused too since you met the requirements and you pay the price before you claimed it. It's just unfortunate for them if you end up winning on their bonus. But I clearly understand if they'll restrict you from claiming your bonuses after your consistent winnings because that would only mean, putting the casino bonuses funds at stake of losing. Although bonuses are part of their strategy to attract more winnings on their part, but they won't also allow us taking all the advantage and win all those bonuses.

[Jemzx00]

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Based on this, you may have not violated or abused the bonus being provided but rather utilize it to gain more advantage on your chances of winning.
It may be harsh to hear that they're think that you're abusing their bonuses but looking into their perspective, it may look like it especially with your luck and continuous winnings.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

Per policy, it may not be an abused as it's given that there's a limit for bonuses which is the 3 days cooldown but if you only play and deposit to always take advantage of the bonuses and more likely win then it may look like an abused though allowed with the requirements assigned, it's more like a loophole or something.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Bonuses are simply one of the marketing tools for casinos. Casinos probably conduct marketing research to find out the effectiveness of their promotions and bonuses, among other things. It is important for them that players use bonuses as intended. As a rule, bonuses are a one-time promotion. Usually, these are welcome bonuses for registration. Often, these bonuses need to be worked off. But in general, casinos consider bonus hunting as a negative phenomenon. This is money going down the drain, essentially a direct loss for the casino. It is not surprising that casinos fight bonus hunters with all available means.

[carlfebz2]

Bonuses are simply one of the marketing tools for casinos. Casinos probably conduct marketing research to find out the effectiveness of their promotions and bonuses, among other things. It is important for them that players use bonuses as intended. As a rule, bonuses are a one-time promotion. Usually, these are welcome bonuses for registration. Often, these bonuses need to be worked off. But in general, casinos consider bonus hunting as a negative phenomenon. This is money going down the drain, essentially a direct loss for the casino. It is not surprising that casinos fight bonus hunters with all available means.

Bonuses and promotions are really that a tool on which this would really be hooking up gamblers to play into the site. They would really be that making it appealing as much as possible on which we know
that when it comes to this then gamblers are really that a huge disadvantage but there are really people who are really that able to get out and make withdrawal if they are lucky enough.
On the moment that you would really be trying out to make multiple accounts to abuse bonuses then this is literally can be called abuse, but if we do speak about activating bonuses and
making a win from it then why would the heck the house telling that its been abused? Why they cant just accept that there are gamblers or players who are really that lucky enough to reach
those threshold? Just like the rest been saying that this is really that a shady act.

[Dunamisx]

Well, as to the ethics of some gambling platform, they will count on some other things which we may not see as an abuse a punishable act when we do them, though to us, it may not look absurd or bad, while on them, they may try to see it an a means to create a loophole on their own system setup, that is why gambling in so many cases couldn't be fully predicted because the two ends may not really meet together between the gambler and the casino.

[Samlucky O]

I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.

For me the betting site I have used previously only gave a welcome bonus once in registration, after that you can't be able to recieve another bonus except you open another account for such purpose, which of course is not advisable. And I thought abuse of bonus only happens when a person opens countless accounts for the sake of getting welcome bonus. But this your case looks different and I think Maybe you often fund your account specifically for the bonus and after usage you don't fund regularly to play game, but only focusing on the 3 days interval bonus. And they have noticed you are cheating them or probably you are using their site only because of their bonus.

[alastantiger]

Bonuses are simply one of the marketing tools for casinos. Casinos probably conduct marketing research to find out the effectiveness of their promotions and bonuses, among other things. It is important for them that players use bonuses as intended. As a rule, bonuses are a one-time promotion. Usually, these are welcome bonuses for registration. Often, these bonuses need to be worked off. But in general, casinos consider bonus hunting as a negative phenomenon. This is money going down the drain, essentially a direct loss for the casino. It is not surprising that casinos fight bonus hunters with all available means.

Casino have to fight them because if they allowed them to continue, they're going to be spending too much and not getting a better value for the money that they're spending. Bonuses are supposed to attract new customers to the casino. Both the old ones that haven't used the casino for a long time are suppose to be attracted with the bonus and they begin to gamble again but for people that don't gamble but are only interested in hunting for bonus, the casino are going to close down their accounts when they get found. It isn't wrong for casino to do this because this hunters aren't useful to them. Depending on bonus shouldn't be our concern as gamblers, the games to make money is already there and when we gamble we can become lucky and get victorious. For people that gamble often, they're going to get the privilege to be eligible for more bonus and that's the best way to get the bonus and not by cheating.