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September 22, 2024, 06:51:05 AM
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I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.

 
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September 22, 2024, 07:29:09 AM
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I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



If you are using same casino account to get all the bonuses then I don't see it as an abuse or anything I guess the casino just want to give you a reason to stop the bonuses.. then on the other hand if I'm correct you said on your post that you have many casino accounts right? Do you continue to open new one because of the deposit bonus? If yes then you might been the cause of your restrictions.. if all these accounts you open are being tagged to the same user the casino will see the deposit bonus as a way to cheat the system. I guess that should be why they might be giving you the abuse tag.

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September 22, 2024, 09:56:45 AM
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I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



If you are using same casino account to get all the bonuses then I don't see it as an abuse or anything I guess the casino just want to give you a reason to stop the bonuses.. then on the other hand if I'm correct you said on your post that you have many casino accounts right? Do you continue to open new one because of the deposit bonus? If yes then you might been the cause of your restrictions.. if all these accounts you open are being tagged to the same user the casino will see the deposit bonus as a way to cheat the system. I guess that should be why they might be giving you the abuse tag.

Exactly and limiting his capability to avail those bonuses is like stopping him to win something from them that's why its really so shady on why the casino tag him as abuser especially that they are the one who give that bonuses to their players in first place. Its like they are using this to make their casino appealing to people and if they see that there are players winning then they limit their capabilities to win.

So in that case the same with other people say I provably quit on that casino and warn my friends not to gamble there. Since those scenario is frustrating and kinda crazy especially if you always look forward to follow their rules.

If they found OP cheating those bonuses thru multiple account using maybe there's valid reason on the casino side on why they do that.

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September 22, 2024, 10:29:31 AM
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If actually this was a very serious case of abuse, then your account must have been restricted  but if you didn't get ban or locked out of your account, I think you don't have to worry too much because it might not really be that you are misusing the bonus but there could be something else, like misuse of their own English.  For what I understand bonus can not be misused, so it actually depends on what they mean by that.

And in this case I think it makes no sense to say that a gambler has abused the bonus, because after all it is a facility provided by the casino, meaning it is the right of a gambler and they are free to use the bonus for anything and in any way.

Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

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September 22, 2024, 10:52:07 AM
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Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

How can a casino say that a player use the bonus more than he's supposed to while there is a clear limit on how many times a user can claim the bonus?
It would not be fair for the players if players take the bonus frequently as what is provided by the casino and then the players alleged to be abusing the bonus.
The case also specific where deposit is required, it can be different thing if the bonus is 100% free then lets say players only claim the bonus all the time without making any deposit (in this case I would be agreed if taking bonus only without any intention to make deposit is considered as abuse).

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September 22, 2024, 11:10:51 AM
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I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.

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September 22, 2024, 11:34:15 AM
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Those accounts are just possibly get flags once they detect multiple accounts in the same IP address that are keep using the feature of bonuses of their platform, but if you are just using a one account it seems they just seen that you are continuously using their platform and bonuses and they think its might an abuse. IMHO its okay to use their bonuses because its their featured promoted to get more engagement but its better too if they clarify that there's a limit at least. So if they prevevent like this it seems like they don't want to push through their promotional strategy.

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September 22, 2024, 12:30:34 PM
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If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.
Many people still trying to create multiple account even if they know that is abuse of the rules. They don't think about what will happen to them if the casino caught them and casino can do that easily. They just want to chase the bonuses from casino so they can get more rewards. Casino always check the members activities to find members who cheat them because of wanting to get more bonuses. Those people need to realize that they don't have to do that while they always playing gambling in that casino because casino will know and close their account. If that happen, even if they accuse the casino, they will still lost their account without getting their money.

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September 22, 2024, 12:45:11 PM
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If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.
Many people still trying to create multiple account even if they know that is abuse of the rules. They don't think about what will happen to them if the casino caught them and casino can do that easily. They just want to chase the bonuses from casino so they can get more rewards. Casino always check the members activities to find members who cheat them because of wanting to get more bonuses. Those people need to realize that they don't have to do that while they always playing gambling in that casino because casino will know and close their account. If that happen, even if they accuse the casino, they will still lost their account without getting their money.
Cheaters would always be a cheater and on the moment that they would really be able to see some hole then they would really be definitely be trying out to abuse it and this is something which isnt shocking
but we do know that these businesses are already that wary about these possible cheats on which we know that they are really that prepared for that. Whenever you do get caught then expect that you would be blocked and this is something that will really be that stopping these cheaters to do such thing. As for legit gamblers then they would really be sometimes lucky enough on dealing up with bonuses but
the platform did make out some words about such abuse on which its not really that relevant at all. Where's the abuse on this one?

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September 22, 2024, 12:49:21 PM
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Those accounts are just possibly get flags once they detect multiple accounts in the same IP address that are keep using the feature of bonuses of their platform, but if you are just using a one account it seems they just seen that you are continuously using their platform and bonuses and they think its might an abuse. IMHO its okay to use their bonuses because its their featured promoted to get more engagement but its better too if they clarify that there's a limit at least. So if they prevevent like this it seems like they don't want to push through their promotional strategy.

Most of us misunderstood OP. The guy said has account on multiple casinos. Not on multiple account in one casino which he cleared by the OP. So, it is strange that the casino decided not to allow any bonus to him. But I am not surprised because I have seen casinos disabling bonus for some specific users. One of our local forum members got his account banned on a casino just because he was regularly using promo codes to get bonuses. If a casino think, a certain player is not profitable for their business, they just disable bonus or sometimes even close the account. There is nothing we can do about it since the casino has the right to do it.

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September 22, 2024, 12:49:26 PM
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I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.

Putting limits on bonuses for gamblers is indeed very possible for casinos to do, but is it a fatal mistake because a gambler managed to win quite a lot by using the bonus? I don't think so, the casino should not say that the gambler is "abusing" the bonus, because after all it has been provided for gamblers to enjoy, and for the problem of winning it should not be a benchmark to become a problem or cause for the determination of the restriction rules.

This means that I think that there is most likely something else that triggers the problem, not because the gambler always manages to win by using the bonus, because if that was the reason then maybe I would say that the casino is unprofessional.

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September 22, 2024, 12:56:34 PM
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Like someone already stated that the reason why the casino said it's an abuse could be because the OP have been using the bonus more frequently than the way he's supposed to. I actually gave it a thought yesterday and I think that must have been the cause.

How can a casino say that a player use the bonus more than he's supposed to while there is a clear limit on how many times a user can claim the bonus?
It would not be fair for the players if players take the bonus frequently as what is provided by the casino and then the players alleged to be abusing the bonus.
The case also specific where deposit is required, it can be different thing if the bonus is 100% free then lets say players only claim the bonus all the time without making any deposit (in this case I would be agreed if taking bonus only without any intention to make deposit is considered as abuse).


If OP have only been making use of the deposit bonus without using his real funds to bet, I think it's possible that casino must have observed that OP is only too lucky with the advantage of the bonus, so they expect him to also use his own funds to gamble.

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September 22, 2024, 01:19:54 PM
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It is impossible to describe in detail all the cases that can occur, and even if it were possible, several days would not be enough for you to study such a ToS. For this case, any ToS always states that “the organization reserves the right to resolve disputes not described in the ToS.”
Personally, I have enough common sense to understand that a deposit every 3 days for the sake of a bonus will be considered abuse.

If that is the case then in the phrase “bonus abuse” and any attempt to get bonuses consistently like that can be said to be unwritten rules, but this is difficult to accept for those who do not understand it and maybe even those who are provoked can say the casino is a scam, it is true that this will be difficult to explain in detail for every casino that has such a bonus mechanism, but it is good that they have to provide an explanation, and past problems can be ignored because of the updated rules.

Our whole life consists of unwritten rules (common sense), it's normal. I think you've heard of such a concept as an Italian strike - when workers do everything strictly according to the rules/instructions... and as a result it reduces productivity several times if it doesn't stop work at all.
In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

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September 22, 2024, 01:26:27 PM
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In relation to the casino/player, both parties must be honest and not abuse the trust. I generally try to avoid bonuses and everything else so as not to have problems with it.

That's the point, both sides need to be transparent with it. In this case, OP didn't do anything wrong if he has been using a bonus that the casino offers every week or so, if they don't want their players to use that bonus, they shouldn't offer it in the first place, or if they say they are running this promotion to attract new players then they should have some conditions and restrictions for the bonus such as only newly registered users can avail it or only those who made their first deposit can use the bonus and not old players.

If the casino isn't transparent about the rules of a bonus or promotion, they can't blame a user for abusing the bonus because who wouldn't use a bonus if they see it's available for them? I wouldn't mind getting a bonus for a deposit that I would do anyway.

If a player is only using 1 account on the platform and is completely honest and loyal, the casino needs to show some transparency as well. That's my opinion.

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September 22, 2024, 01:57:36 PM
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Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.
I understand the point you are making and where you are heading; there is a limit to the bonus, but then again, when the casino keeps on giving you the bonus, when ever the gambler meets the bonus requirement, what do you expect the gambler to do?
 
Ignore the bonus or contact the casino that they gave him or her a bonus that's not supposed to be awarded, and in a situation where how often the bonus will be given is not also mentioned on the bonus TOS, what do you expect the person to do in such a situation?
 
If the casino forgot and has continuously given the person a bonus, why not just say you have used up your bonus limit rather than using the word "bonus abuse" if there is nothing to prove that the person abused the bonus system?

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September 22, 2024, 02:38:26 PM
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I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.
I agree with you, indeed the casino will certainly provide limits on the bonuses they provide to their customers, but if the player has a problem with the bonus he has taken, the casino must be able to handle it to make customers have confidence in their casino and maintain their reputation so that it remains good. Even with people who are already regular customers, I think they can get bonuses but there will still be limits set. Giving bonuses or promotions is something that casinos will most likely do, because it is one of their strategies which aims to get more profit or make players more comfortable betting in their casino. In addition, players who place bets at a casino certainly want to win even though their goal in betting is to have fun but winning is something that cannot be lied to, with the bonuses provided players can get it as long as they meet the requirements, and I don't think there are any players who will abuse the bonuses that have been provided.

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September 22, 2024, 02:48:38 PM
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Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.
That’s serious, and this is just the first time I'm going to hear about something like this. They even replied to you that you were abusing the bonus. If they don’t want people to be making use of the bonus, or they don’t want people to win, then why give out the bonus right from the beginning? That’s really annoying and bad. I don’t really know the casino that you are making use of, but I will recommend you just have to be careful, because time might come when they will restrict your account, and they are going to tell you that you have gone against some of their rules.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit.
No. Just that maybe the casino doesn’t like the way you have been winning frequently, and they can’t stop you, so they decided to use that. They can’t be giving you free money, and you will decide to gamble with it and still win always.
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If you create dummy accounts because you want to avail the bonus that the casino has, it can be said that it is abuse. Even if we say that you will use different names and different IDs when the casino demands KYC.

That's why we know that there are casinos that are also good at tracking the cheating activities of their gamblers on their platform. And often what they base it on is the one IP address that is used, especially if only one wifi is used that is logged in to their casino platform.
Many people still trying to create multiple account even if they know that is abuse of the rules. They don't think about what will happen to them if the casino caught them and casino can do that easily. They just want to chase the bonuses from casino so they can get more rewards. Casino always check the members activities to find members who cheat them because of wanting to get more bonuses. Those people need to realize that they don't have to do that while they always playing gambling in that casino because casino will know and close their account. If that happen, even if they accuse the casino, they will still lost their account without getting their money.
Yes, perhaps the most frequent violation is the creation of a second account to obtain a referral bonus. Even when I was just starting to get involved in the interpent of Gambling, I created myself a second akaty for referral obstacles but I was banned a day in a week. After that, I don’t do it anymore because those commissions that could be there There were definitely not two accounts.I think a lot of newcomers did this, because this is a rather cunning trick.

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September 22, 2024, 04:48:54 PM
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I made a topic related this matter before on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468782.msg62929040#msg62929040.

I forgot that I’m limited on using the bonus of this casino due busyness on other casino. I deposit and wait for the bonus that didn’t arrived so I contacted the support about this.

Surprisingly, they gave me a reason that I’m restricted to the casino bonus due to the bonus abused?! I understand if they will just restrict me to use this bonus because I’m winning using it but using the word bonus abused while you are just using it properly is a bit harsh.

Is it an abused if you use the bonus on your deposit. On this specific case, Winz.io has wheel that resets every 3 days so I made deposit every 3 days to avail this bonus. I don’t understand what part is the abused on this case.



On this situation there's always a strong restrictions that might have caused it, and as far as bonuses is merely concerned here of course we felt being abused. However we need to manage well that bonuses, and when you don't hsve any deposit I think the system itself will trigger restrictions.

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September 22, 2024, 04:55:57 PM
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I think making use of the bonus given to play games and winning continuously shouldn't be enough reason why they are going to restrict you from bonus, that means they might have suspected that you could probably be doing something else as against their policy, well, this is left for them to decide on the cognate reason for that, but as from your end, i don't think you have done anything that wrong to have deserved a bonus ban by all you have stated, i also don't understand if perpetual winning on bonus could lead to a bonus ban.
Have you ever thought that there is simply a separate limit on bonuses for each player? Yes, this is also practiced and quite often. There is no need to look for pitfalls where they simply do not exist. Everything is quite simple and logical, if you look from the outside. Well, the casino cannot give bonuses so often. There is a limit to everything.

Yes, as per my understanding too the casino will give limited bonus to every player and they already have this calculation in place. In case, you are getting a bonus again and again, then it is your right to use this bonus as frequently as you can because it is allowed by the gambling site. Usually, the gambling casino will put high wagering requirements on such casinos, so even if you are getting the bonus every now and then, you won't be able to cash it out.

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