Well done KYC.

[Nwada001]

Kyc should be requested when customers wants to withdraw a big amount of money but do not think that kyc is going to stop scammers or evil doers to stop committing crimes because there are many ways to receive money and the government would not be capable of tracking it. They can request for payment to be made in Bitcoin and then they mix the coin and you would not be capable of tracing the Bitcoin. There are other tools that they can use in the dark web that is not available to us and make their money disappear from being tracked. They can also receive fiats in physical form and that is the type of money that is the hardest to trace. Kyc on casino should not be too demanding because they make the gambler to not be comfortable when all our private information are being needed.

If you are just a normal citizen who just wants to protect his or her privacy, using those tools can help you cover up all your tracks since the person will take time to do it without being in a hurry, but in a situation where the person is using it for such an atrocious act, there is a possibility of the person making a little mistake that can lead the authorities right to his doorstep.
 
We have had cases where even people who are good at hacking and have emptied exchanges are caught just by the little mistake that they make. It's not as if they don't know what they are doing, but when you have been napped under surveillance, you never can be too careful.

[Jody.Drummer]

This incident is quite a unique incident because in my opinion it is very rare for a crime to occur that was previously unexpected to get a clue from the existence of KYC.

The case itself is quite rare, but authorities will trace online transactions and connect them to KYC. That's why criminals hate KYC- because they know it can expose their activities. In this particular case, the criminal’s stupidity made him pay the price. That’s why the KYC we dislike for privacy reasons won’t be something the government will let go, as they need it to enforce anti-money laundering laws, which this kind of incident likely falls under.

With the authorities certainly getting information about the perpetrator from the KYC on the gambling account, I think it means that the authorities are working with the casino involved, because if the authorities don't work with the casino involved, I don't think they will be able to find out the exact information. In addition, the perpetrator who did KYC for a requirement is also very annoying, I mean how could he be that stupid, I think this person is someone who is really addicted to gambling.
I agree with you, KYC is not just held like that, but of course there is a clear purpose behind all of this, one of which, as you said, is to prevent money laundering that could happen. I admit that sometimes I am reluctant to complete KYC, but lately I think this is quite important. Maybe we should even be able to find a casino that requires players to complete KYC.

[TopTort777]

Once again, why would casinos make KYC and obligatory requirement? Because if I have a wish to use casino for money laundering, they would help police to catch me? Or for casinos to make users databate of potential killers? Dont you want to be the first one to upload your KYC here, so that in case you want to commit a crime, we would already know where to find you?

You see, those  without  the intention of committing any crime via the internet wouldn't have any problem with KYC. To me, I'll love a regulated  system  where all casinos  requires  KYC so that cases of crime could be easily  traced to the source. Assuming you were in the position of the victim, or let's say a situation of hack, rubbery or scam. And KYC was used to trace the criminal and the person was caught. Its definitely obvious everyone would be happy justice was served using KYC.

Perhaps I have an incorrect understanding how police and person identification processes work, but I see that even if everything is knows about the person who has committed a crime, that persons isnt get caught with 100% probability, and even if he gets caught, I am not 100% sure he will get punished. As well as we see how people, who seems to be open to public, it is easy to get whole information about them, commit crimes. All that makes me think, that with our without KYC, people will still do bad things and some manage to get away with it. As well as KYC is just an information, it does not predict what is on persons mind. If passing KYC would prevent future crimes to happen, I would be both hands for it. But right now for me it is not more than a data base, to which I dont want to belong.

[michellee]

Now people are very conscious about their personal matters. Don't want to share your personal information anywhere unless it's necessary. The same is the case with gambling sides.

To me, while being conscious where I am sharing my info, I'll still be careful where I share. Just as you have said, I'll only do it when it's necessary and needed.
And most likely, I'll only do it when I am really gambling at that casino. But going with the actual situation of it, chances like this with the cooperation of the government and police, it's really a way to find persons of interest.

Being carefully when sharing our info is a must so we can avoids the bad things that can occurs. When we want to do KYC, the right thing that we must do is make sure that the casino can give protection to us by guarding their member's document. We need to responsible with anything we want to do and only share our info into the right place. We don't want to see our info abused by those who can not responsible because that is an important document that we will share to them. We must remember that when we share our info in other parties, there are no guarantee that our info will be safe but we can try to trust that parties to save our info.

[Makus]

Perhaps I have an incorrect understanding how police and person identification processes work, but I see that even if everything is knows about the person who has committed a crime, that persons isnt get caught with 100% probability, and even if he gets caught, I am not 100% sure he will get punished. As well as we see how people, who seems to be open to public, it is easy to get whole information about them, commit crimes. All that makes me think, that with our without KYC, people will still do bad things and some manage to get away with it. As well as KYC is just an information, it does not predict what is on persons mind. If passing KYC would prevent future crimes to happen, I would be both hands for it. But right now for me it is not more than a data base, to which I dont want to belong.

Well, You are correct. Kyc is just a data base containing your information,  but that information could give the security team clue on how to get the defaulted. This is not the first case were KYC in general  has been used to catch a criminal, there are more cases, that explains the relevance of KYC that its  function doesn't end being a data base only but can serve other purposes when need arises. For instance a crypto hacker who made a mistake by depositing his stolen crypto to an could be caught by using his kyc information. Though I understand there are times were we don't want to be recognized in an online platform not because we're planing a mischief but just a personal view of things, but KYC requirements shouldn't be the reason not to use a service.

[Mahanton]

Perhaps I have an incorrect understanding how police and person identification processes work, but I see that even if everything is knows about the person who has committed a crime, that persons isnt get caught with 100% probability, and even if he gets caught, I am not 100% sure he will get punished. As well as we see how people, who seems to be open to public, it is easy to get whole information about them, commit crimes. All that makes me think, that with our without KYC, people will still do bad things and some manage to get away with it. As well as KYC is just an information, it does not predict what is on persons mind. If passing KYC would prevent future crimes to happen, I would be both hands for it. But right now for me it is not more than a data base, to which I dont want to belong.

Well, You are correct. Kyc is just a data base containing your information,  but that information could give the security team clue on how to get the defaulted. This is not the first case were KYC in general  has been used to catch a criminal, there are more cases, that explains the relevance of KYC that its  function doesn't end being a data base only but can serve other purposes when need arises. For instance a crypto hacker who made a mistake by depositing his stolen crypto to an could be caught by using his kyc information. Though I understand there are times were we don't want to be recognized in an online platform not because we're planing a mischief but just a personal view of things, but KYC requirements shouldn't be the reason not to use a service.

KYC is highly frowned upon here on crypto space and we cant deny that this one is really the main reason on why this market had become that popular or become known because of the anonymity and decentralization that it do gives if we do speak about the utility but we do know that exchange platforms or any other platforms that running up a business that related to money incoming or outgoing then it will really be that resulting into such
potentially that government would really be trying out to impose some regulations on which it will really be ending up for these platforms from being decentralized to become centralized. This is where they would really be starting on requiring those KYC and its users would really be the main that will be affected. Yes, there would be still platforms who might not asked out but sooner or later they would really be changing up.

KYC is really having that main purpose on tracing out someone and it will really be that be very useful on the time or moment that it will really be having such  having this kind of tracing specially
if there would really be some criminal cases on which these informations would really be needing up. So lets just not be focusing too much about into its negative but also we should
really be that also be mindful or considering out its positive uses too on which we could say that it will really be that helpful on these kind of times.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Most gamblers don't like submitting KYC because of many reasons. I don't blame them because personal data shouldn't be exposed to avoid invasion of privacy and other negative activities. But I read a story in the news that portrays the importance of KYC.

I don't even have a reason to argue with the system and their policies of passing the KYC verification test... Regardless of whatever has been happening ( extracting and selling of anonymous data on the dark web) I'd still trust my informations to be safe on the right platform... Why does anyone have to be hesitant when the casino is registered and licensed?

Using the document he submitted, law enforcement agents were able to track him and he was finally arrested. His arrest was made easy because of a KYC request from the gambling platform.

This was an ugly case... The rate of insurgencies has increased over the years and we all have to be careful where we at, what time we gotta leave and how frequent we make a move to anywhere... Murdering someone after getting the desired ransom was just out of place and I hope the man is charged with due course according to the law. Let's hope everyone learns from this awful experience..

[terrific]

Now people are very conscious about their personal matters. Don't want to share your personal information anywhere unless it's necessary. The same is the case with gambling sides.

To me, while being conscious where I am sharing my info, I'll still be careful where I share. Just as you have said, I'll only do it when it's necessary and needed.
And most likely, I'll only do it when I am really gambling at that casino. But going with the actual situation of it, chances like this with the cooperation of the government and police, it's really a way to find persons of interest.

Being carefully when sharing our info is a must so we can avoids the bad things that can occurs. When we want to do KYC, the right thing that we must do is make sure that the casino can give protection to us by guarding their member's document. We need to responsible with anything we want to do and only share our info into the right place. We don't want to see our info abused by those who can not responsible because that is an important document that we will share to them. We must remember that when we share our info in other parties, there are no guarantee that our info will be safe but we can try to trust that parties to save our info.

As much as we don't want to see our documents and identities being exploited by the casinos, we'll never know where it will go next once it's already on them.
The thing about it is to look at how they are trustworthy and your confidence with them. If you're okay with that being asked about it then you're free to proceed.
But if not, the important matter is for you to just look at it as a normal requirements being conducted by them and it's up to you if you're going to comply or leave them.

[Makus]

KYC is highly frowned upon here on crypto space and we cant deny that this one is really the main reason on why this market had become that popular or become known because of the anonymity and decentralization that it do gives if we do speak about the utility but we do know that exchange platforms or any other platforms that running up a business that related to money incoming or outgoing then it will really be that resulting into such
potentially that government would really be trying out to impose some regulations on which it will really be ending up for these platforms from being decentralized to become centralized. This is where they would really be starting on requiring those KYC and its users would really be the main that will be affected. Yes, there would be still platforms who might not asked out but sooner or later they would really be changing up.

KYC is really having that main purpose on tracing out someone and it will really be that be very useful on the time or moment that it will really be having such  having this kind of tracing specially
if there would really be some criminal cases on which these informations would really be needing up. So lets just not be focusing too much about into its negative but also we should
really be that also be mindful or considering out its positive uses too on which we could say that it will really be that helpful on these kind of times.

I can't deny the fact that I love to enjoy anonymity  here in the crypto space  because  to helps to improve  my security and keeps  me unnoticed by anyone. There is no doubt anonymity in crypto is the reason  we have lots of users who are interested in the service, because  keeping your asset in crypto on non custodian wallet helps you stay in full control of your asset without anyone knowing your worth. But when it comes to gambling platforms, I don't think there is any need for keeping my identity anonymous from the casino when I'm  assured they won't leak my info to a third-party.

[$weetne$$]

Being carefully when sharing our info is a must so we can avoids the bad things that can occurs. When we want to do KYC, the right thing that we must do is make sure that the casino can give protection to us by guarding their member's document. We need to responsible with anything we want to do and only share our info into the right place. We don't want to see our info abused by those who can not responsible because that is an important document that we will share to them. We must remember that when we share our info in other parties, there are no guarantee that our info will be safe but we can try to trust that parties to save our info.

How do we know that the casino can provide us with privacy of our document's after we are done with the kyc. We can not know that our information has been exposed until we see them on other website. Kyc is very dangerous but we do not have any options but to do it because we need them to be capable of withdrawing our wins. We have to trust the casino that are doing our kyc that they would not sell our kyc to scammers and advertisers but some casino that do not care about their customers, they are guilty of selling their kyc to those that are willing to pay for it. Some of their clients are advertisers that want to make use of our information as advertising statistic for business that are willing to pay to get their products out there. Don't trust any casino because most of them are the same.

[yahoo62278]

Most gamblers don't like submitting KYC because of many reasons. I don't blame them because personal data shouldn't be exposed to avoid invasion of privacy and other negative activities. But I read a story in the news that portrays the importance of KYC.

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace. The mother paid some money into the account and was hoping that her daughter would be released.

When this murderer went to withdraw the money from his betting account, the gambling firm asked for more KYC which included the National Identification Number. Out of desperation and ignorance, the criminal uploaded the information.

Adeleye’s capture came through tracing his SportyBet account, where he had uploaded his National Identification Number.

Using the document he submitted, law enforcement agents were able to track him and he was finally arrested. His arrest was made easy because of a KYC request from the gambling platform.

Source: Why I killed 18-year-old female church member – OOU student

This is a completely random event and IMO has nothing to do with really good reasoning for KYC. Not many people are going to be dumb enough to kidnap someone, then ask for ransom, and have it sent to their gambling account. You ever heard of Americas dumbest criminals? This would be a perfect case for that old TV show.

KYC is nothing other then a way for the government to tax a person on their gambling winnings in the long run. You think you're just sharing your info to a site to confirm you are of legal age? They have to share that info with the proper government agencies for tax purposes. If you live in a country where you have to report earnings, you might be fucking yourself by submitting KYC if you were trying to avoid taxes at least.

[danherbias07]

This is a completely random event and IMO has nothing to do with really good reasoning for KYC. Not many people are going to be dumb enough to kidnap someone, then ask for ransom, and have it sent to their gambling account. You ever heard of Americas dumbest criminals? This would be a perfect case for that old TV show.

I watched that TV series back then.
The kidnapper is probably a rookie or didn't even plan on how he/she will receive the money. The plan ended as soon as they got the victim. Maybe they thought they would not pay because he is ready to kill his friend and out of desperation and stupidity he made a big mistake by using a gambling account.

KYC is nothing other then a way for the government to tax a person on their gambling winnings in the long run. You think you're just sharing your info to a site to confirm you are of legal age? They have to share that info with the proper government agencies for tax purposes. If you live in a country where you have to report earnings, you might be fucking yourself by submitting KYC if you were trying to avoid taxes at least.

That's what I said in my other reply here. It's a way for the government to monitor their people especially when it comes to taxation. They don't want anyone getting away from it particularly those who win big and those who are depositing huge amounts which means they have lots of money in their assets.
Those people will become targets if they are really paying the right taxes to their government and it will not be fun to be in that position.

[michellee]

As much as we don't want to see our documents and identities being exploited by the casinos, we'll never know where it will go next once it's already on them.
The thing about it is to look at how they are trustworthy and your confidence with them. If you're okay with that being asked about it then you're free to proceed.
But if not, the important matter is for you to just look at it as a normal requirements being conducted by them and it's up to you if you're going to comply or leave them.

That is why we must check their reputation and the easy thing that we can do is always search from this forum. We can finds the reputable casino from this forum so we don't have to worry from scam. But we must be careful if we want to do KYC to any casino.

We responsible with our document so we must selective to choose the casino and not tempt by their promotion so we forget to check their reputation. We also don't have to join in the casino that we found in out there. We don't know how good their reputation so we must be careful.

How do we know that the casino can provide us with privacy of our document's after we are done with the kyc. We can not know that our information has been exposed until we see them on other website. Kyc is very dangerous but we do not have any options but to do it because we need them to be capable of withdrawing our wins. We have to trust the casino that are doing our kyc that they would not sell our kyc to scammers and advertisers but some casino that do not care about their customers, they are guilty of selling their kyc to those that are willing to pay for it. Some of their clients are advertisers that want to make use of our information as advertising statistic for business that are willing to pay to get their products out there. Don't trust any casino because most of them are the same.

You needs to ensure that the casino can give that to their members so you will not worry if something bad happens to that casino. It needs time to find the right casino to us because we must search for one by one of the casino. I admit that KYC is very dangerous if the document is in a wrong parties so we must be careful when we send the document.

We don't have to join in any casino if we think that is too risky to us. No one will force you to playing gambling in the casino and doing KYC in that site. You decide what you want to do so you know the risk and could avoids if you think that is not right for you. That is a form of responsibilities from us to our document.

So you must research before deciding anything including in gambling. All decisions will be on us so we careful to take decision because that will be our responsibility.

[Die_empty]

That's what I said in my other reply here. It's a way for the government to monitor their people especially when it comes to taxation. They don't want anyone getting away from it particularly those who win big and those who are depositing huge amounts which means they have lots of money in their assets.
Those people will become targets if they are really paying the right taxes to their government and it will not be fun to be in that position.

The government might have different reasons for asking for KYC. It could be for taxation, checking crime and surveillance. However, in this situation, we saw a clear case of the government fighting crime with personal information submitted to a casino. In some countries, gambling revenue is not taxed, so there is no need to try to avoid tax. Other people might not care much about their privacy. The good choice for people who don't want to give out KYC is to gamble with casinos that don't ask for them. But if you are mandated to pay tax from gambling win, that's your obligation to the state for the public services you enjoy from the government.

[carlfebz2]

That's what I said in my other reply here. It's a way for the government to monitor their people especially when it comes to taxation. They don't want anyone getting away from it particularly those who win big and those who are depositing huge amounts which means they have lots of money in their assets.
Those people will become targets if they are really paying the right taxes to their government and it will not be fun to be in that position.

The government might have different reasons for asking for KYC. It could be for taxation, checking crime and surveillance. However, in this situation, we saw a clear case of the government fighting crime with personal information submitted to a casino. In some countries, gambling revenue is not taxed, so there is no need to try to avoid tax. Other people might not care much about their privacy. The good choice for people who don't want to give out KYC is to gamble with casinos that don't ask for them. But if you are mandated to pay tax from gambling win, that's your obligation to the state for the public services you enjoy from the government.

It would really be all!

Government will really be wanting or liking that they could be able to trace up everything and we've seen that on any services that we are trying out to get involved with then
it will really be basically be asking out our personal details and other information on which you could be able to tell that they do handle out those important informations on which
soon it could really be used into other things things or means on which its not shocking anymore.

It does really have that good usage too when tracing up criminality. It is really just that people who do really frowned upon about KYC or centralization
here on crypto space and thats why they wouldnt really be liking about other correlated things about it but basing up into the condition or situation which is written on OP
then its a good thing that it do help out on resolving the case and caught up the murderer.

[LDL]

Most gamblers don't like submitting KYC because of many reasons. I don't blame them because personal data shouldn't be exposed to avoid invasion of privacy and other negative activities. But I read a story in the news that portrays the importance of KYC.

A girl was kidnapped and later murdered by her friend. The murderer contacted the girl's mother and asked for ransom. He requested that the funds be paid into his online betting account to avoid a trace. The mother paid some money into the account and was hoping that her daughter would be released.

When this murderer went to withdraw the money from his betting account, the gambling firm asked for more KYC which included the National Identification Number. Out of desperation and ignorance, the criminal uploaded the information.

Adeleye’s capture came through tracing his SportyBet account, where he had uploaded his National Identification Number.

Using the document he submitted, law enforcement agents were able to track him and he was finally arrested. His arrest was made easy because of a KYC request from the gambling platform.

Source: Why I killed 18-year-old female church member – OOU student

It is a completely continuous phenomenon where the entire eco system is being blamed for an unintended accident. Most of the gamblers usually do not want to do KYC verification with their personal documents on the gambling account especially in this case the security of their personal documents is likely to be leaked. There are many countries that have to participate in gambling by taxes under the government or face additional taxes to participate in gambling with cryptocurrencies. In this case, KYC is very easy to identify, which is why many members do not want to submit their personal documents to gambling accounts. Since the kidnapping and subsequent killing of gambling accounts are rare and inconsequential, it does not seem reasonable to hold a gambling site responsible and the entire ecosystem for KYC.

[Oilacris]

It is a completely continuous phenomenon where the entire eco system is being blamed for an unintended accident. Most of the gamblers usually do not want to do KYC verification with their personal documents on the gambling account especially in this case the security of their personal documents is likely to be leaked. There are many countries that have to participate in gambling by taxes under the government or face additional taxes to participate in gambling with cryptocurrencies. In this case, KYC is very easy to identify, which is why many members do not want to submit their personal documents to gambling accounts. Since the kidnapping and subsequent killing of gambling accounts are rare and inconsequential, it does not seem reasonable to hold a gambling site responsible and the entire ecosystem for KYC.

If it would be having its cons then it will really be also having its benefit and this is something which is really that totally helpful in cases like these.
Its true that this market is really that highly doesnt want or like about KYC on which it is really that totally normal because this is why crypto market is really that becomes famous
because we do really like that anonymity and privacy. Somehow it would really be also having its cons too and into this situation then it will really be needed up
for everything to be traced and thats why these informations would really be that something need or crucial.