Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck?

[Kemarit]

When I first saw the design of the games in the online casino I was very surprised. They looked like they were drawn by someone who can only draw in Paint. For example, the slot machine with the monkey and her bananas was really terribly designed.
And then I saw an interview with the casino designer and he said that everything is actually simple: the casino often makes the slot interface simple on purpose: and when gamblers see such a design, they think that such slots are as simple as possible, and this attracts them to the game. Yes, there are slots that are very beautifully designed, but I am sure that he was right and such a trick from the casino does take place.

You are wrong, maybe in the early days of slot machines, design could be terrible, but with the advancement of technology together with science, this slot designers could come up with something that will really attract even beginners to play and enjoy their games and so that's why slot machine games are one of those played in casino that really put a lot of money in the business.

Good question by the OP, and I have a discussions with my fellow friends and gamblers and we really think that online slots games really suck as far as giving them payout wins as compare when we played in a land base casinos. That is just base on our experiences though.

[satscraper]

I have a discussions with my fellow friends and gamblers and we really think that online slots games really suck as far as giving them payout wins as compare when we played in a land base casinos. That is just base on our experiences though.

I support this view of your fellows.  I'm playing  in the land based casinos more than often and have to say that the feeling that comes from the online slot games is not fit to hold a candle to that one which  originates from the physical sensation of handles/buttons on the fruit machines. And another thing, real sounds  coming form the rotated gears and the karma of the slot's pit ...nothing at online gambling may be compared to these.

[bakasabo]

I have a discussions with my fellow friends and gamblers and we really think that online slots games really suck as far as giving them payout wins as compare when we played in a land base casinos. That is just base on our experiences though.

I support this view of your fellows.  I'm playing  in the land based casinos more than often and have to say that the feeling that comes from the online slot games is not fit to hold a candle to that one which  originates from the physical sensation of handles/buttons on the fruit machines. And another thing, real sounds  coming form the rotated gears and the karma of the slot's pit ...nothing at online gambling may be compared to these.

How about putting on VR helmet and playing slots? Plus putting on hi-end sound system. Will it give same emotions? Or it is like with chips, crunching and rustling sound packaging makes make you want to eat more and more?

Anyway, a lot has been said already, but we barely speak about "what reward, winning amount, slots feature does not suck". What would be OK for free games in slots? If they would give higher rewards? Or increased probability of winning?

[traderethereum]

I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.

The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.

[l3pox]

You should understand it's business and bonuses are made to attract more customers and bring them in to try out the game o they cannot be giving you the best games as a bonus because if they do, you will definitely not have anything to anticipate or look forward to and having to get back on the game again but then when u have a trial that interest you, you would want to proceed further to get more of the game and that is the reason the bonuses feels like they aren't as good a s the main games, they need u to spend some money to get the fun u desire and probably win if u Lucky but before then, they should have made some money from you.

The bonuses advertised on slot games will of course be able to make anyone interesting to try it but when someone can't control themselves on the game will certainly continue to play to be able to feel what they have seen in the advertisement of the game and it's true as you said if they immediately give a win on the game of course they don't have any advantage from the bets that others play and even Some people who have spent a lot of their money on the game have not been able to get the winnings they want and only luck will be able to give them a win in the game.

bonuser are normal
everyone wants it
the thing is that you wouldn't accept a bonus to take hard drugs, right?
treat gambling as a hard drug and you'll probably be fine
most people are only focused on winning and the casinos know that.

[summonerrk]

When I first saw the design of the games in the online casino I was very surprised. They looked like they were drawn by someone who can only draw in Paint. For example, the slot machine with the monkey and her bananas was really terribly designed.
And then I saw an interview with the casino designer and he said that everything is actually simple: the casino often makes the slot interface simple on purpose: and when gamblers see such a design, they think that such slots are as simple as possible, and this attracts them to the game. Yes, there are slots that are very beautifully designed, but I am sure that he was right and such a trick from the casino does take place.

A friend of mine plays in a casino that uses a similar ugly interface with a macaque. And the whole point of this character is to make the gambler who loses to this macaque feel offended. It's a shame that the gambler is beaten by an ugly monkey, and he gets angry and loses control of himself. It turns out that this is the perfect way to piss off any gambler. It's a pity that casino owners order such a design without caring about the psyche of players.

[Zadicar]

I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.

The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.

There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.

[nara1892]

The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.

There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.

Basically I think it's right to say that free spins are not something that guarantees victory, in the end it's still no different from regular spins, victory can come from anywhere and not only from the free spins you get, for example, as experienced by OP where he was annoyed because lately the free spin bonus was really very bad. In the end as you believe that it all comes back to how lucky you are when playing, and I think the free spin bonus is nothing more than something provided by the casino to attract more gamblers, but it should be part of the fun and not put hope in it. We must immediately return to the fact that casino games are a type of probability game that really depends on your luck.

[$weetne$$]

The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.

Between people that loses their bonus and people that won, those that lost are more likely to continue gambling than those that won, that is what I think. There is going to be a feeling that they almost had it, for people that lost and this will make them to deposit money to wager for the same games they were playing. The money casino spend on bonus to attract gamblers has more impact than when they run ads for people to get to know about their casinos. People get attracted to free things and want to gain from it therefore they look for free bonuses from casino and go after them. Some people are lucky to win but many others are not lucky and this make them want to win something from the casino but the end up giving the casino more profits from their losses.

[South Park]

Hi fellow degens. This has always been in my mind for the past couple of months and I can't get a definitive answer to satisfy my curiosity.

I have been playing online slot games for a few years now, mostly from Pragmatic Games and Evolution. One thing I noticed is that they rarely give out free games (if you're not going to use the buy bonus feature), and sometimes it may take you up to 200 spins before you get a free game which will only give shit rewards after all the spins are exhausted. This got me thinking, are those free games/spins really designed to be shit compared to the normal spin feature which, surprisingly, gives me decent profit during my sessions? If it is, then I think using the buy bonus feature is a trap to lure people into losing their money faster to the casino.

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

There is no way to be sure unless we took a look at the code or there were enough players like you that were curious about this answer, and they took the time to pool their results and then draw some conclusions from them, however it would not surprise me if your thoughts are correct and this is just a trap to make players spend more money when playing slots, and in that case maybe it is time for you to try to find another game you may like.

[Moreno233]

For a while, I thought the free games feature is better considering that multipliers are added to the factoring of wins at the end of each spin, but on my observation, I am getting wins in a high RTP game with normal spins rather than the bonus games feature.

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

I thought this only happen to me because this is exactly my experience with free games too. I have never won something serious with free spin even though I have been offered that many times. Some days I will exhaust my free games without wins only to win with my other bets that I paid for. This make me to feel that maybe it is different algorithm that the casinos use for free bets and for paid bet, although there is no evidence to justify this because there are people who would have won with free bets. It could also be possible that the lack of winning from free bets might be because of the carelessness that follows free bets that is not like that with paid bets.

[Jemzx00]

There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.

Basically I think it's right to say that free spins are not something that guarantees victory, in the end it's still no different from regular spins, victory can come from anywhere and not only from the free spins you get, for example, as experienced by OP where he was annoyed because lately the free spin bonus was really very bad. In the end as you believe that it all comes back to how lucky you are when playing, and I think the free spin bonus is nothing more than something provided by the casino to attract more gamblers, but it should be part of the fun and not put hope in it. We must immediately return to the fact that casino games are a type of probability game that really depends on your luck.

Free spins and regular spins might be different when it comes to chances of winning as more of us are used to get little to nothing out of those free spins. But still, it's just an assumption as there are rare instances that players do win big on those bonuses or free spins given by the casino. We must also look into the amount of spins that we do on regular compared to the free spins since it can be a factor as to why we feel like we win more on regular than of free spins as the amount of spins we do are far more higher on regular spins. Still, luck is best determining factor since there proofs that people do win on those bonuses.

[junder]

I don't know whether people expect to win exorbitant bets on a free spin when it's just a free opportunity to spin. There could be trick to win some money in spin but it all depends on what we have to offer. Casinos are in the business to make money and given us the opportunity to try a free spin but than do not mean that winning is sure. Gambling is all about trying to make money from the house while the house is also trying to make money from gamblers so they can keep giving us free spins and bonus rewards. We should not always rely to make winnings from free spins since it's just a bonus to try to lay out hands on free bet.

The casino gives free spins to people to check their luck but unfortunately, not many people have a good luck in their gambling time. But that will not stops them to continue the games using real money because they are tempting to win some money.
If they realize that free games in online slot game is not suck and that depends on their luck, they will not angry or attract to continue playing but they will stop immediately after the free spins is end. They will not risk their money just to win the games.
After all, that is free spins that may help them to win some money. But if they can not win, that will not be a problem for them.

I agree with this, regarding slot gambling which is very dependent on luck, therefore the free spins given by the casino are one of the advantages for players in their luck factor, it is very rare for anyone to get a big win even though they have received repeated free spins and that is natural because luck will not come at all times, we just have to maintain our own limits so as not to do it excessively which can cause us big problems.
Someone who cannot accept the results of the free spins is disappointing, they will most likely chase victory by betting again and again or maybe doing the buy spin feature continuously, but that does not guarantee that they can win. The opportunity to win is there but you don't know when it will happen, the free spins you get are not a benchmark for players to get a profitable win, because if you are lucky, even without getting free spins, you can get a profitable win.

[Jody.Drummer]

Free spins and regular spins might be different when it comes to chances of winning as more of us are used to get little to nothing out of those free spins. But still, it's just an assumption as there are rare instances that players do win big on those bonuses or free spins given by the casino. We must also look into the amount of spins that we do on regular compared to the free spins since it can be a factor as to why we feel like we win more on regular than of free spins as the amount of spins we do are far more higher on regular spins. Still, luck is best determining factor since there proofs that people do win on those bonuses.

In addition, many people think that they can get a big win by getting free spins even though it does not guarantee it either, people who hope for free spins will definitely experience emotions with results that tend to be disappointing as you said with the results that can happen are small or even none at all. Very lucky for those who win big with the free spins they have received, because things like this rarely happen because it still involves luck.
I agree with what you said, luck is indeed the main factor that will determine everything, we cannot get definite results even though we manage to get free spins with a high bet amount. Now unpredictable luck can come at any time, even by placing bets with a low amount. However, people who bet large amounts and get big wins are very lucky people.

[nara1892]

Basically I think it's right to say that free spins are not something that guarantees victory, in the end it's still no different from regular spins, victory can come from anywhere and not only from the free spins you get, for example, as experienced by OP where he was annoyed because lately the free spin bonus was really very bad. In the end as you believe that it all comes back to how lucky you are when playing, and I think the free spin bonus is nothing more than something provided by the casino to attract more gamblers, but it should be part of the fun and not put hope in it. We must immediately return to the fact that casino games are a type of probability game that really depends on your luck.

Free spins and regular spins might be different when it comes to chances of winning as more of us are used to get little to nothing out of those free spins. But still, it's just an assumption as there are rare instances that players do win big on those bonuses or free spins given by the casino. We must also look into the amount of spins that we do on regular compared to the free spins since it can be a factor as to why we feel like we win more on regular than of free spins as the amount of spins we do are far more higher on regular spins. Still, luck is best determining factor since there proofs that people do win on those bonuses.

Yes there is a little difference, but not every time, sometimes the free spins I get really go really bad, and also sometimes when I try to buy a free spin bonus with a capital of $ 20 but the contents in it are not more than $ 5, meaning I lose about $ 15, this incident happens very often regardless of whether you buy it or get it for free through manual spins.
But yes I also agree that there are indeed quite a few who have managed to get a fairly large amount of winnings through free spin bonuses where I have also won maxwin several times.
One thing I will say is that if you feel that you often lose at a type of casino game, or the amount of your losses is much greater than your wins then you should understand that it is very natural considering the casino's advantage and winnings that depend on luck.

[bubilas]

When I first saw the design of the games in the online casino I was very surprised. They looked like they were drawn by someone who can only draw in Paint. For example, the slot machine with the monkey and her bananas was really terribly designed.
And then I saw an interview with the casino designer and he said that everything is actually simple: the casino often makes the slot interface simple on purpose: and when gamblers see such a design, they think that such slots are as simple as possible, and this attracts them to the game. Yes, there are slots that are very beautifully designed, but I am sure that he was right and such a trick from the casino does take place.

A friend of mine plays in a casino that uses a similar ugly interface with a macaque. And the whole point of this character is to make the gambler who loses to this macaque feel offended. It's a shame that the gambler is beaten by an ugly monkey, and he gets angry and loses control of himself. It turns out that this is the perfect way to piss off any gambler. It's a pity that casino owners order such a design without caring about the psyche of players.

This could well be the casino's idea. These guys are thinking 24/7 about how to profit from ordinary gamblers. Moreover, I have encountered online casinos that made the deposit withdrawal window unclear and unusable.
Obviously, casinos do not like when gamblers withdraw money, but they receive commissions from players anyway, so why arrange these unfair games with the interface? I do not understand whether their owners are so greedy, or the design department wants to appear in a better light in front of the management with such ideas.

[hyudien]

I agree with this, regarding slot gambling which is very dependent on luck, therefore the free spins given by the casino are one of the advantages for players in their luck factor, it is very rare for anyone to get a big win even though they have received repeated free spins and that is natural because luck will not come at all times, we just have to maintain our own limits so as not to do it excessively which can cause us big problems.
Someone who cannot accept the results of the free spins is disappointing, they will most likely chase victory by betting again and again or maybe doing the buy spin feature continuously, but that does not guarantee that they can win. The opportunity to win is there but you don't know when it will happen, the free spins you get are not a benchmark for players to get a profitable win, because if you are lucky, even without getting free spins, you can get a profitable win.

I will tell you a little about free spins and also the buy free spin feature. Several times I was the one who spammed buy free spins, and do you know what happened? yes on one occasion from all the buy free spins that I did there was no return at all.  
This is an experience that we can take that whatever as long as we are not lucky we will not get a win, even though we try several times. The problem is when I play I immediately buy the feature and until my balance is not enough to buy the available feature. Even when I get free spins repeatedly there is no big win.
Yes, indeed in gambling it will return to the luck that we experience when playing.

[dansus021]

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? Online slot games are designed to make the casino rich that's all.

I think based on my experience there no difference between spins in a normal gamer or in bonus game, you can buy free spin that not actually free in online slot is all based on your luck only maybe the rtp and one or two thing can make different but they designed to make the owner rich. heck if you win just withdraw your initial money  and you to stay play with rest

[danherbias07]

Can someone here who knows these things too well enlighten me if there's a difference between spins in a normal game and spins in a bonus game? Does each have their different RNG formulas?

Are free games in online slot games designed to really suck? Online slot games are designed to make the casino rich that's all.

I think based on my experience there no difference between spins in a normal gamer or in bonus game, you can buy free spin that not actually free in online slot is all based on your luck only maybe the rtp and one or two thing can make different but they designed to make the owner rich. heck if you win just withdraw your initial money  and you to stay play with rest

Suppose it will be that easy. Once you withdraw your initial money and lose the rest, a gambler will possibly deposit back the initial money. That's most of the case when chasing losses or just wanting to try again.

Back to the topic, I seem to understand other online casino tricks. It's not about the slot games, it's about the online casino itself. Just recently I won x2700 in one of the games of Red Tiger, but before I won that, I lost like 2500 too so, I profited just a little. Right now, I am playing again in different slot providers on the same online Casino and I cannot seem to win any. Everywhere I jump the free spins are not coming out for 100 - 200 rolls and sometimes even longer.
That happened to me 3 times now. Last week I lost a total of 3400 in our currency depositing 200 each in different slot games and then I won it back after 3 days of playing in one game.
So, I don't really believe in RTP for every slot provider. It's about how deep your wallet is so that the RTP of the online casino itself will give it back, maybe less or maybe more.

[traderethereum]

There are people  that might be lucky and able to make up some wins and able to withdraw but 99% of them wont really be able to make it out or would be losing those free spins or even with those bonus ones.
We do know that when it comes to this manner then house do always win at the end and there's no way that you could be able to make yourself having that kind of advantage.
Free games are good if you are really that trying out to make some fun and wont really be trying out to spend tons of money for you to have some fun. If you are someone
whose really that easily get that addicted or really that being impulsive then you would really be falling into their trap.

I believe that because I see in this forum, some people have their luck and win huge money. They can also withdraw the money without having a problem so they can enjoy the money. But we should know that free spins can not always gives the huge winning because that will depends on our luck
The house will always win at the end, so no matters how hard we try, we may lose the money. We can against the house and only need to enjoy the game without think about the winning.
Our concern is just how to prevent from playing gambling excessively to save our money.

Between people that loses their bonus and people that won, those that lost are more likely to continue gambling than those that won, that is what I think. There is going to be a feeling that they almost had it, for people that lost and this will make them to deposit money to wager for the same games they were playing. The money casino spend on bonus to attract gamblers has more impact than when they run ads for people to get to know about their casinos. People get attracted to free things and want to gain from it therefore they look for free bonuses from casino and go after them. Some people are lucky to win but many others are not lucky and this make them want to win something from the casino but the end up giving the casino more profits from their losses.

I agree with you because those who losses their bonus will curious why they can lose even with free spins. They think that free spins can give them huge win but that doesn't like that because free spins still need luck to win.
They must realize that free spins is just part of the games so we can not have a big expectation to win much money. We don't have to feel jealous with people who can win huge money because we will have our time to win.
If they attract with the free bonuses, they must know that gambling will not give that without spend some money. So they should playing gambling using more and more money but the result will not always as we want.

I agree with this, regarding slot gambling which is very dependent on luck, therefore the free spins given by the casino are one of the advantages for players in their luck factor, it is very rare for anyone to get a big win even though they have received repeated free spins and that is natural because luck will not come at all times, we just have to maintain our own limits so as not to do it excessively which can cause us big problems.
Someone who cannot accept the results of the free spins is disappointing, they will most likely chase victory by betting again and again or maybe doing the buy spin feature continuously, but that does not guarantee that they can win. The opportunity to win is there but you don't know when it will happen, the free spins you get are not a benchmark for players to get a profitable win, because if you are lucky, even without getting free spins, you can get a profitable win.

Although free spins is the advantages for players, they must thinks that free spins is just an attraction to them to continue playing gambling and spends more money. If they knows for that, they will not trying to continue after the free spins is end and they will leave the casino without think to try for more.
It is normal if we feel disappointing when we can not win from free spins but that doesn't mean we can continue our gambling activity and chase the winning because that can make us to lose more. We must remember that free spins is not always gives the money so we should treat as part of have fun.
We can win someday so we don't have to playing slot too hard and use more and more money because we realize that slot game will depend on luck.