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September 27, 2024, 12:40:00 PM
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Tornado Cash is a crypto-mixing platform co-founded by Roman Storm. Similar to a typical mixer, its purpose is to provide transaction anonymity. However, regulators see it differently, claiming it’s often used for money laundering.


The way you put this together sounds funny to me,  if you create anything that can hide the information of the sender and the receiver wouldn't that make it a good option for money laundering? We don't like accepting the fact on this forum and I am not ready to prove anything to anyone but I will still stand my ground that the existence of mixers are a bigger threat to the safety of our countries.

This is just common sense, yes it is good for people who want to hide their tracks or have some privacy, but that's even if they are good people, so how will you tell if someone is good or bad in this case? Pretty hard isn't it.

This days almost everyone is a bad ass when it comes to money, people do crazy things this days and go to church on Sunday like nothing happened, we are in a world where criminals and killers will go to holy grounds to pray, like the audacity is disgusting as f***.

People are mostly bad, that's all I know, don't come to my face trying to play innocent, if people see ways to get away with crimes they will do it.

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September 27, 2024, 12:51:48 PM
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They are trying to give him the Ross Ulbricht treatment just for developing a mixer that they couldn't take down.

As has been said before, they are going to go after the developers of every single privacy service and try to wipe it off the internet. When? That is unknown, but you can safely assume that if whatever technology you are working on crosses the bad side of governments, then you're done for.

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September 27, 2024, 01:21:45 PM
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The future developers of privacy services need to be anonymous and lead a satoshi-type of a life to stay that way. That's, of course, an impossible dream to most people. Privacy services should be up and running for a few months and then disappear and go offline. The same people should then create a different service and work with that a few months. Law enforcement is slow and takes time. Once the government is set up and ready to act, the service disappears. Trusting such services and their honesty will be difficult, though.   

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September 27, 2024, 02:30:00 PM
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I think what play games with usa low's is bad idea, Ofcause, this mixer was used to laundry dirty money. Tornado cash will be arrested sooner or later, bat will have big problem. Yes, tornado cash jast a boy from USSA village, but, government not be patient to this.

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September 27, 2024, 04:32:59 PM
Last edit: September 27, 2024, 04:45:01 PM by franky1
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They are trying to give him the Ross Ulbricht treatment just for developing a mixer that they couldn't take down.

As has been said before, they are going to go after the developers of every single privacy service and try to wipe it off the internet. When? That is unknown, but you can safely assume that if whatever technology you are working on crosses the bad side of governments, then you're done for.

no they are not
its not about being a developer..

seems even you have fallen into the social media trap..

the charges are not about being a coder..
the charges are about knowingly and directly facilitating and aiding criminals to do laundering and accepting payment for that direct involvement of facilitating laundering

the lame social media is trying to turn it into a story about developers to freak developers out. but it has nothing to do with developers
the charges are purely about conspiring to offer and facilitate laundering services, whilst also knowing the customers using the services are known sanctioned entities/criminals.

..

lets make things short and sweet
lets say that dave brad and ken are known criminals and have been using your service, and then authorities come along and inform you that these entities have been using your service, and the authorities warn you to do something or be treated as assiciates of criminal activity. you inform the authorities you will act on their information and do things to prevent further negative actions being inposed by authorities on yourself, informing authorities you will become compliant to evade you getting caught up in the mess.. however you then privately message your business partner to say your not going to effectuate anything that will prevent the laundering(though you could)
the crimes still continue and you then become associated with facilitating the crimes and knowing doing it because you have been previously been informed and warned, yet you continued to do it...

its got nothing to do with "just a dev" its about being informed and warned of particular customers, being warned that you need to become compliant to evade you being tied up in criminal charges.. and yet you pretend to be compliant whilst still allowing the criminal activity
and ontop of that taking a handsome income from facilitating the criminal activity even after the warning..

the indictments even from last year dont reveal all the evidence gathered by authorities but if you read through it with a clear un bias confirmed mind, with a fresh prospective you can garner enough information that its got nothing to do with "just a dev" and everything to do with continuing to facilitate crimes even after being warned, and also taking income from facilitating it, directly knowing that the income was coming from certain sources

there are many laws and regulations that if followed would have protected these guys from prosecution if they did follow through, but by ignoring the warnings and not following also got them another charge

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September 27, 2024, 05:04:09 PM
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They are trying to give him the Ross Ulbricht treatment just for developing a mixer that they couldn't take down.

As has been said before, they are going to go after the developers of every single privacy service and try to wipe it off the internet. When? That is unknown, but you can safely assume that if whatever technology you are working on crosses the bad side of governments, then you're done for.

no they are not
its not about being a developer..

seems even you have fallen into the social media trap..

the charges are not about being a coder..
the charges are about knowingly and directly facilitating and aiding criminals to do laundering and accepting payment for that direct involvement of facilitating laundering

the lame social media is trying to turn it into a story about developers to freak developers out. but it has nothing to do with developers
the charges are purely about conspiring to offer and facilitate laundering services, whilst also knowing the customers using the services are known sanctioned entities/criminals.

..

lets make things short and sweet
lets say that dave brad and ken are known criminals and have been using your service, and then authorities come along and inform you that these entities have been using your service, and the authorities warn you to do something or be treated as assiciates of criminal activity. you inform the authorities you will act on their information and do things to prevent further negative actions being inposed by authorities on yourself, informing authorities you will become compliant to evade you getting caught up in the mess.. however you then privately message your business partner to say your not going to effectuate anything that will prevent the laundering(though you could)
the crimes still continue and you then become associated with facilitating the crimes and knowing doing it because you have been previously been informed and warned, yet you continued to do it...

its got nothing to do with "just a dev" its about being informed and warned of particular customers, being warned that you need to become compliant to evade you being tied up in criminal charges.. and yet you pretend to be compliant whilst still allowing the criminal activity
and ontop of that taking a handsome income from facilitating the criminal activity even after the warning..

the indictments even from last year dont reveal all the evidence gathered by authorities but if you read through it with a clear un bias confirmed mind, with a fresh prospective you can garner enough information that its got nothing to do with "just a dev" and everything to do with continuing to facilitate crimes even after being warned, and also taking income from facilitating it, directly knowing that the income was coming from certain sources

there are many laws and regulations that if followed would have protected these guys from prosecution if they did follow through, but by ignoring the warnings and not following also got them another charge

Agree, all ramsovare move they "profit" in sach mixers

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