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September 28, 2024, 01:06:29 PM
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When you join regular freerolls, the players are so aggressive that you can't even play a few hands. Maybe people do have multiple accounts on the same table and they benefit from loss of one. The only freerolls that are worth playing are which have limited access for limited people. The freerolls initiated through this forum are example of such. Most of the players are either trying to learn or are one that are to enjoy the game. There is some degree of aggressiveness as it's free to join but there's to some degree of self control as ids are associated with the forum identity. An full on aggressiveness on every hand is generally not considered a good personality.
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September 28, 2024, 03:09:14 PM
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When you join regular freerolls, the players are so aggressive that you can't even play a few hands. Maybe people do have multiple accounts on the same table and they benefit from loss of one.
Personally, I haven't joined any of the freerolls but I would like to know is that even allowed at Stake.com to have multiple accounts? As far as I know, most casinos don't like players to have multiple accounts and I guess Stake should have similar rules when it comes to multiple accounts. I guess even if something like that is allowed but still one should not do that as that ethically not a good practice.

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September 28, 2024, 03:18:17 PM
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I began to play poker and as a beginner I won a lot of things (it ever happens), so as more I learned more I lost. I really was concentrating all my energy on being a better player, but I was in a cicle with "Playing >> Losing >> Studying >> Playing...". After losing a lot of money and a lot of time a lot of times even having a reazonable knowledge about the game, I've decided in first place stoping to waste money, because of this I began to play freerolls (Free tournaments of poker). People that know freerolls are scared on playing them, they say that playing them is impossible because freeroll players use one of the most important weapons of poker: The agressivity, they are suicide agressive players level. But freerolls give to you for free the first trainning: The patience (it's a profit). The second thing is that you can earn real money without put money in the game, you earn cents most of times, when you earn off course, but is better than losing tens of dollars maybe hundreds, then my money began to reverse his flow. Now I play cheapper games but I am satisfied because I can hit my chest and say "I am a winner player".
Poker has changed a lot since it became popular at the beginning of this century, as at the time there were a lot of people interested on it but that were not very good players, this allowed a person with a relatively low amount of knowledge about the game to become a winner, but eventually the scene evolved and now even the low stakes games are full of skilled players, so it is not easy to beat them at all when they have so much experience and high skills as well.
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September 28, 2024, 03:27:38 PM
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But freerolls give to you for free the first trainning: The patience (it's a profit). The second thing is that you can earn real money without put money in the game, you earn cents most of times, when you earn off course, but is better than losing tens of dollars maybe hundreds, then my money began to reverse his flow. Now I play cheapper games but I am satisfied because I can hit my chest and say "I am a winner player".
I am not a fan of poker game but somehow I can relate with terms of gambling and from experience with other games I know the pains you were passing through though. Initially you were thinking of becoming over night millionaire from poker but I will assume that then you didn't understand the ethics of gambling and how it works, otherwise if you knew correctly there wouldn't had been a day you would lose this big before falling back to freeroll. What I mean is that, you could have started with freeroll before finally stake money on it may be after winning some decent amount you can decide to put real money to also watch your accuracy, I think it's the lesson you learnt that brought you down to this experience.

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September 28, 2024, 07:34:49 PM
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Poker is one of my favorite gambling games because it isn't entirely based on luck, and players compete against each other at the table. I believe that every poker player has at least some experience with freerolls and tournaments, which helps them notice the significant difference between risking real money and playing with free chips. This difference is mainly due to the risks involved.
It's important to understand that good money management is crucial for becoming a successful player often even more than skills. In the case of freerolls, the concept of money management isn't as important when you are playing with free chips, which highlights the difference here. However, that doesn't stop some players from consistently making a profit in these tournaments.

Also feel free to join the some tournaments on forum since you like playing poker.

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September 28, 2024, 07:45:31 PM
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Freerolls is not real poker.  Like ypu said most are just insanely aggressive and luck is really the only thing driving those wins.  You actually create bad poker habits by playing free money games.  Trying to apply what you learn there in real money poker games will get you broke.  I'm not saying they are terrible to play just don't think it's gonna help you with in game skills.
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The freerolls are a great option for those who want to gamble but don't want to risk their money, and the fact that it's free doesn't always mean is little money involved, some free rolls are for descent amounts, but isn't easy to win them because people don't take them seriously and they pay all-in with terrible hands, the worst part is when they win that all-in.

I enjoy playing freerolls and when i have some free time i try to join them, some casinos have daily freerolls and others only on special events.

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September 28, 2024, 08:08:31 PM
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I remember my first freeroll, I won it, but my skills were terrible. Apparently, this made me stay in the poker space for 2 years. If we win at the beginning, it leaves such a strong mark in our memory that we remember it throughout our lives. Aggression is at the highest level there, so the most important thing is to be patient and the profit will definitely come. Although it is difficult to maintain patience looking at what is happening there. So I played a lot of freerolls, until I realized that my dollar per hour is too low and I got tired of it. However, I do not want to advise anyone what to play, let everyone decide for themselves.
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September 28, 2024, 11:59:43 PM
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Any experience is good if you are beginner, main ingredient is patience to learn.    If you are playing too simply or without consideration of your actions then the learning will be slow to non existent because Poker involves alot of consideration to the opponents actions which is guessing but also recognition of all the factors known and unknown by all parties in the game.

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You actually create bad poker habits by playing free money games.

That is possible but if a person weighs their actions properly you can advance more then you lose by not playing the full wager of a poker tournament.   I think its about discipline, to measure your actions not rely on the free factor too much.    Some people may place bets on horses or football teams but they are playing only for pts system to say they won.   I wont say you have to be big money to be part of a real game, just paying isnt enough by itself to qualify whats a good proper game or not.

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September 29, 2024, 02:04:16 AM
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Finally, you can be wise to treat gambling by using freeroll and realizes that you can make money from poker. You can learn by experience so that makes you wise and know what you need to do.
If you can use freeroll without using money, that will be good for you because you don't lose anything but you get more experiences by playing against other people. But you have a chance to earn cents and when you can win many time, that cents will become bigger.
Patience is indeed needed to collect from one win to the next win and that is not easy because you will meet many good players which have a high skills. But you can play without emotion because you have many experiences before so that will help you to survive in that game.

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I began to play poker and as a beginner I won a lot of things (it ever happens), so as more I learned more I lost. I really was concentrating all my energy on being a better player, but I was in a cicle with "Playing >> Losing >> Studying >> Playing...". After losing a lot of money and a lot of time a lot of times even having a reazonable knowledge about the game, I've decided in first place stoping to waste money, because of this I began to play freerolls (Free tournaments of poker). People that know freerolls are scared on playing them, they say that playing them is impossible because freeroll players use one of the most important weapons of poker: The agressivity, they are suicide agressive players level. But freerolls give to you for free the first trainning: The patience (it's a profit). The second thing is that you can earn real money without put money in the game, you earn cents most of times, when you earn off course, but is better than losing tens of dollars maybe hundreds, then my money began to reverse his flow. Now I play cheapper games but I am satisfied because I can hit my chest and say "I am a winner player".



It seems like the appropriate measure taken in order to spare your future earnings and give yourself a chance to scratch that itch and make some other investments in its place. I wish you the best of luck with your endeavors OP

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Any experience is good if you are beginner, main ingredient is patience to learn.    If you are playing too simply or without consideration of your actions then the learning will be slow to non existent because Poker involves alot of consideration to the opponents actions which is guessing but also recognition of all the factors known and unknown by all parties in the game.

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You actually create bad poker habits by playing free money games.

That is possible but if a person weighs their actions properly you can advance more then you lose by not playing the full wager of a poker tournament.   I think its about discipline, to measure your actions not rely on the free factor too much.    Some people may place bets on horses or football teams but they are playing only for pts system to say they won.   I wont say you have to be big money to be part of a real game, just paying isnt enough by itself to qualify whats a good proper game or not.

Betting on horses or sports with free money doesn't alter the way you play a game.  Poker is a game, and yes you can practice your own skills but poker is more than just you and your skills.  It's more about understanding how people at your table play and then using that to your advantage.  Freerolls inherently are played overly aggressive.  You can't help but carry some of that into real money poker.
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September 29, 2024, 04:07:09 PM
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Are you having free rolls with poker? It means money in the game, right? Then you build it up, and then you could go into withdrawing the money that you have made, right? I think that’s what I do in the online casinos I have played with, especially since they give free currency. As long as you do your management and maybe make it on your own, I think there’s no problem.

I agree that using free money instead of your actual money is better, but it will be more challenging.

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September 29, 2024, 04:18:59 PM
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Maybe that will make you happy in gambling but for me, not at all because I find it difficult to control my patience so I never win when it comes to freerolls in poker games. Indeed, there will always be bluffs made by other participants and although at first I can still be patient and not provoked by the bluffs they make, but over time I get provoked too and finally lose. It takes more time to enter the next session and thus, I can't always play that way, so playing normally/regularly by making a deposit is what interests me because then we will also be more disciplined in gambling.

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September 29, 2024, 05:11:05 PM
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I don't really understand the game of poker, I once joined a free roll, I only lasted 5 card changes and I couldn't wait, in the end I went all in and lost, it was hard to focus because it was free, if it was with real bets, maybe I would be more careful, sometimes free rolls are not suitable for learning

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September 29, 2024, 11:44:07 PM
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What OP means about "free roll" on Poker is you will have a chance to have some chips that are free and able to play with other people (real people)?

If this is that free roll works, then it's kind of a free chip also where the experience of the free roll is different that other casinos because some suspect the RNG or the luck you have in using free roll to bet is kinda different, like the low chance of winning than actual real betting (using real money).
And don't expect huge money with free things such as free rolls.

It's part of how they want their customers to be attracted to what they do. Attracing everyone with free rolls to get involved in the tables and be emotional later on when things are no longer doing good according to what they have planned to.

I don't really understand the game of poker, I once joined a free roll, I only lasted 5 card changes and I couldn't wait, in the end I went all in and lost, it was hard to focus because it was free, if it was with real bets, maybe I would be more careful, sometimes free rolls are not suitable for learning
It's a game of emotion and you shouldn't be too emotional because one factor here is to be the most patient and at the same time, you should be good at joking(bluffing).

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September 29, 2024, 11:59:28 PM
Last edit: September 30, 2024, 07:12:50 PM by AmoreJaz
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What OP means about "free roll" on Poker is you will have a chance to have some chips that are free and able to play with other people (real people)?

If this is that free roll works, then it's kind of a free chip also where the experience of the free roll is different that other casinos because some suspect the RNG or the luck you have in using free roll to bet is kinda different, like the low chance of winning than actual real betting (using real money).
And don't expect huge money with free things such as free rolls.

It's part of how they want their customers to be attracted to what they do. Attracing everyone with free rolls to get involved in the tables and be emotional later on when things are no longer doing good according to what they have planned to.

I don't really understand the game of poker, I once joined a free roll, I only lasted 5 card changes and I couldn't wait, in the end I went all in and lost, it was hard to focus because it was free, if it was with real bets, maybe I would be more careful, sometimes free rolls are not suitable for learning
It's a game of emotion and you shouldn't be too emotional because one factor here is to be the most patient and at the same time, you should be good at joking(bluffing).

Free rolls should not be treated to be a high stake winning opportunity. The reason why freebies are free because they need to attract the attention of the players and try the game. Very few will offer high rewards. Also, the reason why a  "poker face" is very popular when someone is referring to seemingly no emotion, even if you are angry or excited or happy. And free rolls are getting used fast. That is when you can evaluate the program of the site if it is indeed successful or not. Because if there are so many players availing such perks, it means, they are still keeping up with the site even if there are times that they are not active anymore on the site.

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September 30, 2024, 12:14:24 AM
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What OP means about "free roll" on Poker is you will have a chance to have some chips that are free and able to play with other people (real people)?

If this is that free roll works, then it's kind of a free chip also where the experience of the free roll is different that other casinos because some suspect the RNG or the luck you have in using free roll to bet is kinda different, like the low chance of winning than actual real betting (using real money).
And don't expect huge money with free things such as free rolls.

It's part of how they want their customers to be attracted to what they do. Attracing everyone with free rolls to get involved in the tables and be emotional later on when things are no longer doing good according to what they have planned to.

I don't really understand the game of poker, I once joined a free roll, I only lasted 5 card changes and I couldn't wait, in the end I went all in and lost, it was hard to focus because it was free, if it was with real bets, maybe I would be more careful, sometimes free rolls are not suitable for learning
It's a game of emotion and you shouldn't be too emotional because one factor here is to be the most patient and at the same time, you should be good at joking(bluffing).

Free rolls should not be treated to be a high stake winning opportunity. The reason why freebies are free because they need to attract the attention of the players and try the game. Very few will offer high rewards. Also, the reason why a  "poker face" is very popular when someone is referring to seemingly no emotion, even if you are angry or excited or happy.
I understand what you mean guys, but the problem with some gambling platforms is they are not transparent, they don't have even a disclaimer that let's say the free rolls that the customer got a low chance of winning or do not behave the paid roll.

It's kinda a bait for customers for them to use paid rolls. Well, I believe it's not illegal, it's just some misconception from the customer and it is also a technique from these gambling operators to earn more profits and get more customers, like a marketing.

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September 30, 2024, 03:51:58 AM
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Are you having free rolls with poker? It means money in the game, right? Then you build it up, and then you could go into withdrawing the money that you have made, right? I think that’s what I do in the online casinos I have played with, especially since they give free currency. As long as you do your management and maybe make it on your own, I think there’s no problem.

I agree that using free money instead of your actual money is better, but it will be more challenging.

Yes, something like that, it means that you can participate without spending money and you can win some money, generally low amounts. As for withdrawing will depend on the ToS, surely you will have to reach a certain threshold to be able to do so.

I understand what you mean guys, but the problem with some gambling platforms is they are not transparent, they don't have even a disclaimer that let's say the free rolls that the customer got a low chance of winning or do not behave the paid roll.

It's kinda a bait for customers for them to use paid rolls. Well, I believe it's not illegal, it's just some misconception from the customer and it is also a technique from these gambling operators to earn more profits and get more customers, like a marketing.

Yes, that happens in every business, giving something for free usually increases the clientele and in the long run the revenue. In this case I don't think they have to say that the probability is low is not a secret and is something you can find out with a simple search. If you play a freeroll of 2,000 people and you are the best poker player in the world do not think you have a very high probability of winning, instead of being 1/2000 which is what it would be if it were random maybe you have 20/2000 and at most 40/2000 if the field is very bad, and the OP is by far not the best poker player in the world. That's why those who play tournaments play a lot of them in order to make a profit.

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I used to play freeroll tournaments long time ago, but dropped that due to a huge random factor in the tournament. Like people say here, many participants play aggressive or play crazy. Since its a free tournament, a lot of players dont care much about chips. Why I say there is a huge random factor, is because on the way to final tables, you can face good players and really do you best to win, or you can get those who go all-in with any cards and are easy to beat. Some manage to build huge chip stacks on those newbies, and when you meet a good player, who have 10x chips than you, because he had easily take them away from newbies, it make hard to play against him.

 
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