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October 05, 2024, 09:39:41 AM
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People now supporting and betting on underaged kids beating up themselves? People are getting sicker Huh
I do not find this cool myself because I put myself in the shoes of these children, but that is not the case, once it is allowed in any country, it is not illegal, my friend. Fights like that are part of sports and these children and their parents know what they signed up for. It doesn't matter whether it is being played by an adult or a teenager or even lesser age. All that matters is for it to be officiated well to avoid severe injuries.

There could be some stricter rules that are not in the adult style, so if any casino offers it, it's nothing so far it is a sport and not a real fight or war. This will even bring more popularity and sponsorship to these kids.

This translates to more money for them.

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October 05, 2024, 01:57:21 PM
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There could be some stricter rules that are not in the adult style, so if any casino offers it, it's nothing so far it is a sport and not a real fight or war. This will even bring more popularity and sponsorship to these kids.

This translates to more money for them.

At some point, I was actually thinking like this but what troubles me is that, despite any strict rules that is attached, the strength and abilities of those children can not be compared to adults and if by chance, there's   any slight hit on the wrong point, it could lead to something else, saying. We know how brutal it is at times with the adult boxing and wrestling, talk more of engaging kids in a similar game.

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October 05, 2024, 04:03:36 PM
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I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

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October 05, 2024, 11:34:37 PM
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I remember when I was a kid and got involved into streetfights and you're right that there's no referee but only friends that were watching or bystanders that just passed and helping to stop the fight.

So, there are counter measures and some ways of stopping the fight. As long as someone has seen to be incurred with an injury or some blood has been flowing likely on the nose then that's the sign that the fight should be stopped.
That will also happen with that junior if they are fight in MMA. I guess they will have serious injuries in their body and maybe their bone can be harm too. Although they have a fast recovery but that still give something inside their body and their behavior will be change too because they trained to be aggressive. Maybe they can trained to be a master of martial art but not in that fight. Their emotional is not yet stable and they can lose their control when something is disturb them.

It needs attention for their parents so they can know what their children needs and not just follow what their parents wants. Children needs to grow normally like other children and without trained like that, they can also get good achievements. There are many other ways for the children to develop well.
Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.

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October 06, 2024, 06:19:52 AM
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Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.
One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.

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October 06, 2024, 06:35:07 AM
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Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.
One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.

Although I don't like kids fighting, MMA for kids is meant for sports. Just like taekwondo or boxing. Yes, we know how brutal MMA fights are. But if it is considered a sport, it should be supervised better for younger age groups. The rules for training and competitions should be supervised and made well. Anyway, MMA fights are becoming more popular. And it can motivate kids to learn early to become MMA fighters.

At a young age, I just hope it is made a sport and there will be no betting markets listing MMA fights for kids.

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October 06, 2024, 07:02:23 AM
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Honestly, it's sad to think that in this day and age we're going to see one of the most popular fighting sports platforms: kids fighting instead of adults. It's amazing that the MMA owner was allowed to do that. Isn't what they do like abuse?

Instead of those children enjoying their age that they have, that is not what is happening because what they are doing is causing pain and hurting others physically. Or we don't know if those two fighters are facing a difficult life, so they agreed to fight in exchange for money because of the difficulty of life.

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always check the reputation of a site when this is the only one offering bets on a certain series of events.
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Never seen yet a casino offering an MMA for junior division and I guess the casino does not support this game too, why? the age of consent even tho its a junior event still there is violence happening right there under the legal age and of for sure the casino knows this thing and they don't want to risk themselves and their company to show this kind of event, its so harsh but even though it's a competitive match title still those are under age and I don't like seeing young one having a dangerous fight.

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I've seen kids training while they're young but not into this kind of sport. Whoever gave a permission for this are to be blamed and the first people that I can think of are these kids' parents'.

Sportsbook shouldn't tolerate this and shouldn't put it into their books neither give any of these kids a sponsor to discourage that there's no sense doing this whether for passion or for money.

Stop. You want to blame parents because the have send their kids into such kind of sport? The whole idea of the sport these kids are in is fighting. I see nothing wrong if kids train martial arts, nothing wrong if they compete. After all, there is a referee in the cage that will save them from serious danger. Bleeding nose, black eyes, that is ok if your kid trains martial arts. If you have opposite opinion, then at what age should they start training? In my town, martial arts welcome kids starting from 7 years. They dont fight each other at such age, but at 10+ they already participate in competitions. And did you know, that in many martial arts, you cant get a black belt, if you dont participate in tournaments and win them.

But what I dont support is betting on junior martial arts competitions. Whenever someone looses a bet, he will always blame a fighter he has bet on. That is wrong, as they are young, inexperienced amateurs.
I agree with you, although most parents will definitely forbid their children from fighting, but if the child has a passion for something like this, then parents must support them as long as they fight officially with a referee as the mediator. I think MMA for juniors is not entirely wrong, because what you said is true, self-defense is something that each of us must have, even for some people they consider this important. In my own country, there are very strict laws, but for some parents, this martial art requires their children to learn it, even when they are not old enough, it doesn't matter, because they think self-defense must be learned to protect themselves. I think that with their parents who work as soldiers, they will usually educate their children to be able to learn martial arts, or indeed for parents who work as martial arts teachers, of course their children will be educated to be able to defend themselves from an early age.

I will never believe that there is a legal promotion, that will allow kids to fight till death or serious injury. I wont believe that there would such a cruel manager, promotion owner or referee, that wont stop a fight when one kid is about to do a serious damage to another. I think that most of the kids, when they see opponent has blood from bleeding nose or lip will point referee on that, as well as injured kid will stop fight and will think of surrender when he sees his own blood.

Now about gambling, I believe that such junior mma fights or any other martial arts tournaments are not so popular to get into betting list. Even though they are named as national, or country, or universe tournament, they arent very popular in general for audience. Bookmakers I think wont add to a list of betting a tournament, where each kid is unknown, and people would make 1 or 2 bets during whole tournament.

 
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Yes, protective gear indeed.

So, there seems to be a consensus and opinions meeting in the middle about this is just fine as long as there are protective gear while they do it. And one strong blow should be the end of the match.

I don't know actually, you'll never know how dangerous are these because I've seen amateur fights that ended up badly. But then, an opinion is an opinion, all have points though.
One strong blow can change everything and that child can get serious injuries which can affect to his future. We don't know how good those children control themselves while they fight with their opponent. Even if they can control their emotion, they can become unstable to handle their anger because they are still young and can trigger by many things to make their emational.

I have seen some younger fights in the street and harm many of them and have serious injuries to some children around that fight. But even that fight in the MMA competitions, that still dangerous to them. Hopefully, the government pay attention to this and will not allow that competitions to children.
I have seen that in the amateur fights and sadly, some of them can't recover anymore as that blow have been vital and able to hit some of their important pulse or joints.

Anyway, if the fight becomes professional and there are some referees and medical team on the side ready to assist, that will do the thing but there's still no guarantee if the hit becomes so vital.

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Couldn't help but wonder that with the set up, the kit and display of fighting skills by these fighter as well as the organization of the organizers, that the fight may have some background bettors betting on their favourite kid to win without a care for the law of the state against junior matches and betting on these children as well.

*Are there any  known gambling sites that allow or are there clearly laid out rules against betting on junior MMA fights in your region or in any region you know of?

For any casino, whether online or offline, to allow their users to bet on such fights like this, or even take a step further to sponsoring it simply means the casino is supporting underaged gambling, which is a major crime in almost every part of the world, in most places that I know of, teenagers are to be above the Age of 18, to 19 to 20 years before they can participate in any thing gambling related.

So, the find an MMA match where kids under the age of 18 and allowed to fight themselves is a pure abuse if you ask me., those kids are being used by some people behind the scene to make money for themselves, and I highly doubt that they would want to take such a match to the casinos for listing and for the public to begin betting on such games.

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I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
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I didn't even know that MMA had a junior division, first of all it's a deadly sport meaning that it's possible for fatal accidents to happen even if safety precautions are been taken.i don't think this is ideal based on age factors, it's an illegal business that might put the organizers of this in a whole lot of trouble. I'm pretty sure that they are no gambling site that will sponsor this because it's obviously child abuse because we are talking about underage kids here...This is going to fold up very soon, it's not right for them to use kids for their entertainment.

I fully and agree with your arguments against the introduction of a junior division in MMA, as it is on account of circumstances that surrounded various conflicts. Such an allocation touches the highest and most serious questions of ethical and safety when presented to young children. We should therefore take to heart the welfare of our young athletes and not expose them to danger.

Sports have great scope to provide discipline, teamwork, and confidence in children. However, at all times, it should be safe and age appropriate for the child. Forcing minors into such exploitative companies for entertainment or profit is highly disturbing and may also affect the organizers legally.

Regulators and parents need to support more effective alternatives. It involves the youth in exercise and skill development without costing their safety. Hopefully, enough response from the community can be seen that prevents the plan from going through.


That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
be considered right and normal.


I see your surprise and concern about the situation. It is disturbing to think that children could be placed in such horrific conditions. And the potential for child abuse in such situations is alarming. Whether or not the photos are real raises serious ethical and legal questions for those involved. Including those responsible for such events.

Use of children for adult entertainment Especially in a dangerous sport like MMA, it's not only inappropriate. This is morally unacceptable. The fact that there may be adults gambling on these races adds to the exploitation further. We must support stronger laws to protect young athletes. and ensure that their safety and well-being are more important than entertainment or profit.

I sincerely hope this is not a widespread truth. and officials will take steps to prevent such incidents from occurring It is important that we protect our youth and ensure they can participate in sport in a safe and ethical manner.

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October 07, 2024, 08:07:49 AM
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That's what's surprising because it's clearly child abuse, in which the owner of MMA can even be charged, unless the photo was edited and the photo of the two children who fight.
And that's really dangerous at ages like that who are not yet adults; it's even a pity if it's true that something like that is really happening at this age. But I hope that is not really true.

It's not good to see young children being used when the only ones who can watch are adults who are betting on those children just because they like to gamble, something that can no longer
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Honestly, I dont get why you call it a child abuse. When someone starts to train any sports, it is suggested to start from at an early age. Tournament is one of the ways to check if you are doing great in any sport. Sport is different. Some train martial arts, some do dancing, some play chess or swim. Without a help and watch of professionals, any sport can be dangerous. What is bad from those who train martial arts test what they have learned? Or you think those who train should only do shadow boxing/fighting, perform Kata? Take football for example, you want kids only to learn how to dribble, and shoot at a goal when there is no goalkeeper in? Because goalie can get hit by ball for example.

As to betting on junior MMA. Children should not be stimulated by bets. If someone find out his is an underdog by bookmakers, that will affect his performance for sure. Bookmakers should not force children to fight more and more, because there are many who wants to bet. But there is really not that much of a bad thing to bet on junior MMA. I would have skipped, because not much interested in a fighting. But it isnt different from betting on junior chess tournament honestly.

 
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October 07, 2024, 08:22:49 AM
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I'm not sure if there is one site that allow or sponsor this kind of junior MMA bets.

But to be honest, at least in my country, I have seen some fights in tiktok about as young as 10 or 12 years old and just fighting on the street. It could be some tradition on their village. And that setup is that there is a referee and others in the crowd too.

If they see that the fight is just one sided, or the fight is a mismatch, they are going to stop it regardless if the other side want more action. This is to the safety of the kids and I haven't heard of any physical or even death as a result of this kind of fights.

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A lot of people forgot, that before the fight happens, coach always ask his student if he is ready, wants to test himself in a real fight and not in sparring and so on. Nobody forces those kids to fight. For many kids, coach is like a second father or mother. If coach is adequate and is not a complete degenerate, he will either throw towel or will remove his fighter from the battle if he sees and feels like opponent is much stronger and it will be mismatch and beating.

And Kemarit has touched a nice point of discussion below. What if casino is one of the sponsors of such tournament or league. No doubt that kids wont fight for money on purpose (means they wont make as their income), but they will be very happy to receive a reward after, not just a congratulation certificate and a cup.

 
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But to be honest, at least in my country, I have seen some fights in tiktok about as young as 10 or 12 years old and just fighting on the street. It could be some tradition on their village. And that setup is that there is a referee and others in the crowd too.
As long as these kind fight or tradition aren't used to gamble, it's all fine. People will see it's just a normal thing, where the kids doing that just for fun or learn something, not necessary it's all about money.

Gambling is for people who're at least 17 years old, it's not only for the gamblers, but also with the fighters or players. It's kind of exploitation if we're betting on underage sports.

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Although I don't like kids fighting, MMA for kids is meant for sports. Just like taekwondo or boxing. Yes, we know how brutal MMA fights are. But if it is considered a sport, it should be supervised better for younger age groups. The rules for training and competitions should be supervised and made well. Anyway, MMA fights are becoming more popular. And it can motivate kids to learn early to become MMA fighters.

At a young age, I just hope it is made a sport and there will be no betting markets listing MMA fights for kids.
If that is for sports, I don't mind to see kids fighting in MMA. But we know that MMA sports have less rules than taekwondo or boxing or other martial arts events. That kids should have learn control better so they will not make their opponent have serious injuries. In their ages, they can lose control easily especially if they are beaten by the opponent too often. That can makes them anger easily which and beat or kicks their opponent brutally.

Hopefully, no betting sites for junior MMA and only the match that is available on some program tv but that should be in the night where kids are already sleep. That will not make them watch the fights.

I have seen that in the amateur fights and sadly, some of them can't recover anymore as that blow have been vital and able to hit some of their important pulse or joints.

Anyway, if the fight becomes professional and there are some referees and medical team on the side ready to assist, that will do the thing but there's still no guarantee if the hit becomes so vital.
Hopefully, referees and medical team and other people involved will take care of the match and make sure there is no kids have serious injuries.

The kids itself must wear protection for their bodies to prevent the  injuries because that fights can be brutal reminding they can lose their control in the match.
But if some casinos want to give a bet for junior MMA, they must know that this fight is under 18 so they must follow regulation from regulator before they give this option for gamblers.

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October 08, 2024, 07:36:45 AM
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But if some casinos want to give a bet for junior MMA, they must know that this fight is under 18 so they must follow regulation from regulator before they give this option for gamblers.

What regulations should regulator casino or bettor should follow? I dont get it. Could you please explain.

Imo, we should not pay major attention to age factor. Fact that they are underaged should not make any difference for betting. We should not focus our attention on injuries that they can get. Athletes can get injury in any sport. When people say that underaged should not participate because of injuries, think of artistic gymnastics. No one prohibits to bet on it during Olympic games. But female athletes, that participate, are always underaged (because body is more flexible at such an age). Those girl who participate are from 14 years of old (some even cheat their age to participate at early age). And 18 is considered an age of retirement already. However nobody complain about underaged, injuries, and betting.

 
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