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October 18, 2024, 09:51:50 PM
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I woke up today with this very sad news. A former sponsor of my domain and a good company which I use the signature for several months is now blocked in brazil.

This is the e-mail I received today , google translated to English

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We hope you are well. We wanted to let you know about an important update regarding access to our website from Brazil.

Due to regulatory requirements, access to our website from Brazil has been temporarily suspended while we work to obtain the necessary authorization to operate. We are working hard to resolve this issue and appreciate your understanding.

 Important Information for Brazilian Users:

If you are accessing the website from Brazil, please disable any VPN tools you are using to access our website. Accessing our platform from Brazil while using a VPN may still result in interruptions.

I hope that in near future our left-wing socialist President Lula stop censorship our country, after the blocking X (during elections) and now online casinos.

This is sad news for me and other Brazilian users..

We something similar happen recently with Twitter being blocked and it seems like the government of Brazil overplays it's hand quite often. It think's it has the power of the United States who can subtly force companies to bend to it's will without directly saying it, but many companies would rather leave than conform to onerous requirements or giving up the privacy of their players so the government could access things like tax information. They have recently been using the courts to impose censorship on sites that disagree with their rulings, which are often dictated to judges rather than being thought up independently by the legal system. They will probably reverse course or we may see further crackdowns on other sites too.

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October 18, 2024, 10:16:13 PM
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Well, it is something one could have expected to happen eventually, keeping in mind all the new regulation the government of Brazil is putting in place for them to be able to further tax gamblers (who get lucky enough to have wins). I am also certain this is going to be a temporary thing and this casino and others will get back online once they manage to contact Brazilians regulators and get licensed.
Also, this does not have anything to do explicitly with the left or the right movements in your country, this could have perfectly happened with either Lula or Bolsonaro in power, because we are talking about tightening gambling regulations and those casinos that do no initially comply are to be put down off Brazilian internet.
Now... It would be a completely different debate whether it is okey to tax money from gambling or not, so far Brazil seems to be determined to do so, one can only hope those funds are well managed and do not fall into corrupted hands.

Quite interesting the casino itself knows the Brazilian government is watching and do not suggest gamblers to avoid the blockage with a VPN.

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October 18, 2024, 10:30:18 PM
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In this space we should expect anything at anytime and government regulations is constantly involving with alot of aspects of human activities and long as you are located in such a region, whatever the government says will still rob up on you as a gambler, let say that in this case that Brazil ban Bc game if anything isn't done by the BC games team to lift that banned it is going to affect their market really much, and this is not just about a state but a whole Brazil getting restricted on a casino is quite a big list for that casinos based on the traffic that coming from that region to the gambling boards and even in the global board also, but being able to find alternative for now will be the best at this point.
Let hope that in the future their are going to give our friends from that country some priority to oash for them to have eat.

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October 18, 2024, 11:47:00 PM
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I woke up today with this very sad news. A former sponsor of my domain and a good company which I use the signature for several months is now blocked in brazil.

This is the e-mail I received today , google translated to English

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We hope you are well. We wanted to let you know about an important update regarding access to our website from Brazil.

Due to regulatory requirements, access to our website from Brazil has been temporarily suspended while we work to obtain the necessary authorization to operate. We are working hard to resolve this issue and appreciate your understanding.

 Important Information for Brazilian Users:

If you are accessing the website from Brazil, please disable any VPN tools you are using to access our website. Accessing our platform from Brazil while using a VPN may still result in interruptions.

I hope that in near future our left-wing socialist President Lula stop censorship our country, after the blocking X (during elections) and now online casinos.

This is sad news for me and other Brazilian users..

We something similar happen recently with Twitter being blocked and it seems like the government of Brazil overplays it's hand quite often. It think's it has the power of the United States who can subtly force companies to bend to it's will without directly saying it, but many companies would rather leave than conform to onerous requirements or giving up the privacy of their players so the government could access things like tax information. They have recently been using the courts to impose censorship on sites that disagree with their rulings, which are often dictated to judges rather than being thought up independently by the legal system. They will probably reverse course or we may see further crackdowns on other sites too.

Maybe there's a sort of influence by US, upon research this is what I see.

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SAO PAULO (AP) — Brazil on Friday started blocking over 2,000 gambling websites designated as irregular, part of a push by the government to regulate the sector. The move comes as concerns grow about addiction, especially among tens of millions of vulnerable people.

Source https://apnews.com/article/brazil-online-gambling-sports-betting-blockage-addiction-690db8befc532b57349fc07f43c4fabc

If this is really happening in their country then I guess they are just saving the lives of their people and normal for officials who's not into gamble to do that since addiction somehow could bring some disaster in human life.

I guess they didn't think about other way to control and they just want to immediately shut it down so that there would be no further issues arise towards gambling matters.

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October 18, 2024, 11:56:50 PM
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I hope that in near future our left-wing socialist President Lula stop censorship our country, after the blocking X (during elections) and now online casinos.

This is sad news for me and other Brazilian users..
What a sad development. I hope it's just a temporary move.

I believe the Government is trying every way possible to tap into the revenue those platforms are making by forcing them to register and comply with their regulations, which turn out to be unfair most of the time. This is always how the whole bullshit starts, at least according to what I have seen in the past

Most of the platform will obviously not agree and just would rather stop operating in a certain jurisdiction until the conditions become favourable or softer.

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October 18, 2024, 11:58:27 PM
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In this space we should expect anything at anytime and government regulations is constantly involving with alot of aspects of human activities and long as you are located in such a region, whatever the government says will still rob up on you as a gambler, let say that in this case that Brazil ban Bc game if anything isn't done by the BC games team to lift that banned it is going to affect their market really much, and this is not just about a state but a whole Brazil getting restricted on a casino is quite a big list for that casinos based on the traffic that coming from that region to the gambling boards and even in the global board also, but being able to find alternative for now will be the best at this point.
Let hope that in the future their are going to give our friends from that country some priority to oash for them to have eat.
Like I've learnt, Bc.game wasn't the only online gambling casino that was banned in Brazil, the Brazilian government banned over 2000 online gambling casino, and the cause for this might be as a result of the government's fight against unlicensed companies providing services to the citizens of Brazil, where as this companies are making money from Brazil, but are not paying any form of tax to the Brazilian government.

According to what I know, the government of Brazil has not banned gambling in the country, they only banned gambling casinos, which simply means that any of this affected casinos that still want to have a market in Brazil can easily approach the country's licensing office, from where they can obtain a license that can allow them operate in Brazil as a tax paying and regulated service.

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We all know that it is the government itself that generates poverty due to the high deficit in public accounts and excessive taxes. As a result, the poorest population seeks ways to make "easy money" and in a miraculous way, and gambling is one of the main targets.
It's not really only the government that keeps people poor, it's their culture, attitude and work ethic. Also, lack of education motivates poor people to start gambling for making money. That's paradox, doesn't make any sense, casino is not a charitable organization.

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I hope that in near future our left-wing socialist President Lula stop censorship our country, after the blocking X (during elections) and now online casinos.

This is sad news for me and other Brazilian users..
What a sad development. I hope it's just a temporary move.

I believe the Government is trying every way possible to tap into the revenue those platforms are making by forcing them to register and comply with their regulations, which turn out to be unfair most of the time. This is always how the whole bullshit starts, at least according to what I have seen in the past

Most of the platform will obviously not agree and just would rather stop operating in a certain jurisdiction until the conditions become favourable or softer.
Banning of online casinos can't be a temporary move to my mind because for any party, it's more beneficial to say no to casinos than to give them a green light, especially when they are already banned. Imagine you are a party and want votes, you'll gain lots of votes if you stay populist but if you come up with an idea that the society doesn't like, then you'll lose lots of votes.

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I hope that in near future our left-wing socialist President Lula stop censorship our country, after the blocking X (during elections) and now online casinos.

This is sad news for me and other Brazilian users..
What a sad development. I hope it's just a temporary move.

I believe the Government is trying every way possible to tap into the revenue those platforms are making by forcing them to register and comply with their regulations, which turn out to be unfair most of the time. This is always how the whole bullshit starts, at least according to what I have seen in the past

Most of the platform will obviously not agree and just would rather stop operating in a certain jurisdiction until the conditions become favourable or softer.

What Lula , the president, said is that he will try to enforce strict regulations. If that doesn't solve "the problem" he will just ban all casinos.

I think it is hard to reverse such move


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There are still others here that are good, like duelbits, stakes, and others that have been around for a long time in this field of the crypto world. No matter which country implements such
policies or rules, we cannot do anything.

Of course, what else will the government of Brazil think? Their priority for sure is that they will benefit and the protection of their subjects, their citizens, in fact.

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... and well, the list of Casinos blocked in this part of the world (and actually any other) is long, I can mention Roobet, a shame that's why I no longer participate in their promotions, Duel, Wolfbet... etc. (beware, my case)

It sucks when it's your favorite casino or one of the favorites, people always tell you, "it doesn't matter, there are others..." it's blah, blah, years of "comfort" are lost-etc. Hopefully this will be solved soon and they will be able to obtain the appropriate permits so that above all it doesn't affect them from the legal point of view as a Brazilian citizen.

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What Lula , the president, said is that he will try to enforce strict regulations. If that doesn't solve "the problem" he will just ban all casinos.

I think it is hard to reverse such move
Everything is possible, though. I have seen countries ban, let's say, cryptocurrencies before, only for them to reverse the decision afterward when the citizens continue to show defiance. Or [erhaps a change in the Government can also help if the citizens rise up. It's no easy thing though.

There are still others here that are good, like duelbits, stakes, and others that have been around for a long time in this field of the crypto world. No matter which country implements such
policies or rules, we cannot do anything.

Of course, what else will the government of Brazil think? Their priority for sure is that they will benefit and the protection of their subjects, their citizens, in fact.
All those you have listed are also probably banned as well


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October 20, 2024, 08:08:25 AM
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Hopefully this will be solved soon and they will be able to obtain the appropriate permits so that above all it doesn't affect them from the legal point of view as a Brazilian citizen.
If they want to get licensed, they will need to stop using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as a means of payment. If that is not done, do not expect something good will happen for now.

Everything is possible, though. I have seen countries ban, let's say, cryptocurrencies before, only for them to reverse the decision afterward when the citizens continue to show defiance. Or [erhaps a change in the Government can also help if the citizens rise up. It's no easy thing though.
Know that the government may not fully explain the reason for their actions. There are hidden reasons. I guess Brazilian government wants to discourage their citizens from foreign gambling sites. I guess all local gambling sites in Brazil are not supporting cryptocurrencies.

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That's a sad news but pretty similar to one of our local friends here have experiennce..
And this is his post last night.
Same din sakin na accessible yung ibang website na nabangggit mo. Itong Stake.com lang at bc.game ang hindi accessible through Globle ISP. Tyaga nlng dn siguro muna ako sa mirror link since wala nmn problema so far even sa speed.

If translated, it means he can't access Stake and BC.Game using a specific ISP but can access them through another ISP.


Since your government is strictly enforcing the rules in yorur country, BC.Game has no choice but to avoid any potential legal issues. The government is really tightening its grip now—it feels like they’re taking away our freedom to enjoy gambling.

The only difference is that they received an email, while we didnt. Back when my ISP was PLDT, whenever I accessed the domain bc.game, a note would pop up saying that accessing this website is illegal. But with Converge, you cant access it at all—it's like you don't have an internet connection. As of now, it's okay to use BC.Game with mirror links available. I've deposited and withdrawn here a few times and so far, everything's been fine. I can deposit and withdraw with Gcash & Maya.

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October 20, 2024, 11:25:27 AM
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The only difference is that they received an email, while we didnt. Back when my ISP was PLDT, whenever I accessed the domain bc.game, a note would pop up saying that accessing this website is illegal. But with Converge, you cant access it at all—it's like you don't have an internet connection. As of now, it's okay to use BC.Game with mirror links available. I've deposited and withdrawn here a few times and so far, everything's been fine. I can deposit and withdraw with Gcash & Maya.

GCASH is owned by Globe while Maya is under Smart or PLDT, so that’s why you can’t deposit using their online wallet. Their rules are pretty clear, but for us, there aren't any specific rules—it’s just that the ISP might block it. Glad you were able to access the mirror though, so the fun keeps going for you!

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Of course, what else will the government of Brazil think? Their priority for sure is that they will benefit and the protection of their subjects, their citizens, in fact.

The Brazilian government is cracking down on many different internet services, so it's no wonder that crypto casinos have come to the fore. What do they think they are going to achieve with this? They probably just want more control over what happens in the country and over their citizens. My opinion is that they are going a bit over the top….

So I agree with the headline, leftwing censorship sees no limits... unfortunately, I doubt that this is the end of various restrictions in Brazil, and I believe that similar things will happen in some other countries.

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Of course, what else will the government of Brazil think? Their priority for sure is that they will benefit and the protection of their subjects, their citizens, in fact.

The Brazilian government is cracking down on many different internet services, so it's no wonder that crypto casinos have come to the fore. What do they think they are going to achieve with this? They probably just want more control over what happens in the country and over their citizens. My opinion is that they are going a bit over the top….

So I agree with the headline, leftwing censorship sees no limits... unfortunately, I doubt that this is the end of various restrictions in Brazil, and I believe that similar things will happen in some other countries.
Internet service that are unlicensed is their major target, and if any other country will join in this same movement, I believe it's going to be based on this same goal, except for countries that may outrightly declare that a certain type of service is completely banned in the country.

I  think I've said this before, but let me say it again that Brazil did not ban online gambling, whether it be crypto casinos or not, but they simply have gone after online casinos that are unlicensed in the country, this i believe is part of the regulation most of us clamore for for cryptocurrencies and services related to it.

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Of course, what else will the government of Brazil think? Their priority for sure is that they will benefit and the protection of their subjects, their citizens, in fact.

The Brazilian government is cracking down on many different internet services, so it's no wonder that crypto casinos have come to the fore. What do they think they are going to achieve with this? They probably just want more control over what happens in the country and over their citizens. My opinion is that they are going a bit over the top….

So I agree with the headline, leftwing censorship sees no limits... unfortunately, I doubt that this is the end of various restrictions in Brazil, and I believe that similar things will happen in some other countries.

For now maybe their agenda is to save people for possible gambling addiction. Although this is just a absurd decision to make but maybe they are trying to find solution on how they can solve effects of online gambling to people.

If they found out that they cannot stop this activities since people could find way to access online casino then provably that they would just think about regulate it and think about other approach to regulate online casinos. But then again let see what will happen next if they extend this censorship to another level or they would think about creating things that more beneficial to their people.

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October 21, 2024, 02:33:51 AM
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It's nothing new that the government often blocks websites whenever it wants. But considering you live in a country where you have freedom of speech and people can talk about everything, I don't think the Government will block websites without any valid reason. If they do not have any valid reason, you can always expect to get it unblocked. All I expect is crypto casinos aren't illegal there, right?

But in my country, crypto is illegal, and so is gambling. When the Government blocks a domain, I do not bother much and use another mirror domain if available. Sometimes, I try a VPN as well, and it works. But before I login to my account, I ask the casino support if it is okay to use a VPN. In your case, it seems they requested that you not use a VPN.


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For now maybe their agenda is to save people for possible gambling addiction. Although this is just a absurd decision to make but maybe they are trying to find solution on how they can solve effects of online gambling to people.

If they found out that they cannot stop this activities since people could find way to access online casino then provably that they would just think about regulate it and think about other approach to regulate online casinos. But then again let see what will happen next if they extend this censorship to another level or they would think about creating things that more beneficial to their people.
Based on government reports, 70% of people who enjoy some welfare package in the form of financial assistance spend it on gambling. So one can assume that the government is fighting gambling addiction. I don't know how the government got the statistics but from my view, the design and implementation of "Bolsa Familia" are faulty. I don't think this welfare support is going to the targeted less privileged. Or people may be receiving multiple payments. A poor man wouldn't use the funds that he needs to provide his basic needs for gambling except he is an addict.

So instead of attacking the gambling industry, the government should probe the welfare scheme and also tackle gambling addiction through public awareness and education. This is because they cannot stop gambling in this technological age. However, I support the banning or restrictions placed on shady gambling platforms.      

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October 21, 2024, 12:20:43 PM
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Unfortunate, but from what I looked up it sounds like its temporary? Seems like Brazil is setting up some sort of infrastructure for handling casinos online. That, or they just started managing it again for some reason and sadly, BC game wasn't there. Looks like they're doing all they can to get themselves authorized so I don't think it's going to be permanent. Unless ofc the government does its usual government things and at that point can't blame anyone but them really. Hopefully, it's not permanent. As I've usually parroted before, regulation is better than ban since the latter just brings illegal ones in and doesn't stop anything lol.
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