tshel_bt (OP)
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March 31, 2014, 09:51:49 AM |
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I am 31 years old, lucky enough to be financially affluent( not rich). But everyday I see people, by that I mean friends, cousins, uncles and coworkers all always in tight financial situations. These are good people, kind people who would help u when u are in need. Why did human invent money, it is the root cause of most of the problem in our world. I wish we had a world without money, surely there must be a better way than this necessary evil ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Are we people doomed to be narrow minded and selfish. Is money the only carrot for us donkeys. my fate in humanity is at an all time low. Why cant I trust u not to screw me and why cant u trust me not to cheat u ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . We will all be better of if only we could trust. sorry this is off topic and I am just sick of the rat race.
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DubFX
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March 31, 2014, 09:54:13 AM |
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You're not alone my friend but there's nothing we could do about it at all. Money=god of this era sadly.
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BTCLotto
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March 31, 2014, 10:01:01 AM |
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Going back to simple way of living would be nice indeed. Trading commodities and helping one and another out, but would we have all this technology without money?
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tshel_bt (OP)
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March 31, 2014, 10:12:31 AM |
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technology can exist without money, its human nature of distrust that leads to such suffering and idiotic world
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Kiki112
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March 31, 2014, 10:32:37 AM |
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boy.. I wouldn't like to live in that world ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I like my bitcoins ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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hilariousandco
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March 31, 2014, 11:06:51 AM |
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Money isn't the root of all evil - people are. Money is just a logical medium, but it's human greed and materialism that causes most of the problems.
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bitkanu
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March 31, 2014, 11:15:26 AM |
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Money isn't the root of all evil - people are. Money is just a logical medium, but it's human greed and materialism that causes most of the problems.
yeah it creates many like problem like " we do not buy clothes,food and house without money . all these three things are necessity of humans for survivor "
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March 31, 2014, 11:18:34 AM |
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Money isn't the root of all evil - people are. Money is just a logical medium, but it's human greed and materialism that causes most of the problems.
yeah it creates many like problem like " we do not buy clothes,food and house without money . all these three things are necessity of humans for survivor " Indeed, but we are greedy and gluttonous. We only need a little to survive or be comfortable, but people want lots of food and clothes and big houses, and people can buy them all with money.
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bitgeek
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March 31, 2014, 11:29:06 AM |
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The money itself is not the problem. The modern society is. Everyone thinks he's better with a smartphone in one hand and car keys in the other. Media shout every day "you need a new phone, you need clothes designed by that guy". If there are no money people will find other valuables to trade with like diamonds, precious metals and continue to buy junk they don't need.
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Thyaga
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March 31, 2014, 01:54:27 PM |
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Would be like a hundred years ago, to get what we want we have to Trading commodities, would be no Technology, No Sport Car, No Fancy Jewelry, only, how to farming.
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bitgeek
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March 31, 2014, 06:16:34 PM |
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Would be like a hundred years ago, to get what we want we have to Trading commodities, would be no Technology, No Sport Car, No Fancy Jewelry, only, how to farming.
At least if I grow food on my farm and eat it, the government won't take part of my food in taxes
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durrrr
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March 31, 2014, 06:24:17 PM |
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i have always thought about a world without money. wouldnt this work if you didnt have to pay for anything and everyone was given the sme thing and the same food and water and such every month . we would still have our jobs that you could be tested into as a child. woudlnt this help society a lto?
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mgburks77
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March 31, 2014, 06:29:21 PM |
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As soon as collectivized production reaches a surplus a market will emerge to distribute whatever surplus is produced. If you don't want markets there is central planning or participatory planning for distribution alternatives.
So you can't really go backward to individual production as in what transpired before complex social organization emerged so you have to go forward.
However there are technical advances that will enable individualized production again without real surplus being developed now. If we are able to decentralize or even individualize production and political economy through technical means there would be no need to for the individual produce surpluses for sale in order to actualize their potential.
There is also the idea of each citizen receiving a living wage simply for existing, in which collective production could remain but you still have automation of most jobs to consider.
Anyway you slice it coercive economic pressure to control behavior or to enforce social conformity is counterproductive when long range considerations are part of the perspective.
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mgburks77
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March 31, 2014, 06:32:15 PM |
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The money itself is not the problem. The modern society is. Everyone thinks he's better with a smartphone in one hand and car keys in the other. Media shout every day "you need a new phone, you need clothes designed by that guy". If there are no money people will find other valuables to trade with like diamonds, precious metals and continue to buy junk they don't need.
The actual purpose of money is to provide a standard in which social status can be symbolized. The more money you have the more access to society's production you are entitled to. So that is the entire motivation for it. It's pretty primitive really because it's still just a fancy version of shells or beads that were used for this purpose in earlier times.
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March 31, 2014, 06:36:58 PM |
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faith in TRANSACTION is what we need.
a boolean credit card that either accepts or denys your transaction based on your lives story (hee hee)
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i am here.
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March 31, 2014, 06:40:53 PM |
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Money is simply a tool of exchange, with which two parties may trade values in a way that benefits both, without having the problem of finding a buyer for bartering specific goods you produced. There's nothing evil about this. The fiat system is indeed corrupted in an evil way, but a currency whose value is not based on whims of political parties solves that problem (of course, Bitcoin) . Please, if you're not convinced, read this excerpt from a book by Ayn Rand, about money: http://capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/
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mgburks77
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March 31, 2014, 06:57:17 PM |
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Ayn Rand?
c'mon
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March 31, 2014, 07:09:27 PM |
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You're not alone my friend but there's nothing we could do about it at all. Money=god of this era sadly.
This is the truth right here. MONEY IS GOD.. Paper.. controlled by a select few has become our god. Money.. or at least the idea is needed though as trading for everything just won't work. The problem is our monetary system is controlled by a cartel.
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March 31, 2014, 07:10:43 PM |
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well once we get credit cards workin we can get a public credit card for poor people that withdrawals from Bitcoin wallet 2112
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i am here.
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March 31, 2014, 07:16:29 PM |
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Money is nothing but an exchange medium. Its us that are making it evil. We are running for money all our life rather than enjoying it. Its become a human mature to do this. And if we don't change will be go on damaging our lives and everthing thing else, for just a trading medium
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