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In terms of security and privacy, we always advise everyone to keep their holdings a secret to avoid being robbed or other by close relatives or targeted by criminals outside. But it's a different case when we talk about big names in the crypto industry, people who are CEOs of exchanges and other crypto holding companies. Everyone knows that such people are crypto holders. How can such a person protect themselves from being robbed? Even with their private security, nothing is still impossible. The head of a company specializing in cryptocurrency was kidnapped and held for ransom in downtown Toronto during rush hour Wednesday.
Police were called about a kidnapping in the area of University Avenue and Richmond Street W. just before 6 p.m., says a spokesperson with the Toronto Police Service.
The suspects forced the victim into a vehicle and made a demand for money, the spokesperson said.
The man was later located in Centennial Park in Etobicoke uninjured.
CBC Toronto has learned the victim is Dean Skurka, the president and CEO of Toronto-based financial firm WonderFi. He was released after a ransom of $1 million was paid electronically, a source close to the investigation said.
Skurka told CBC Toronto via email on Thursday that he had been involved in an "incident" Wednesday but is safe.
Source : Toronto crypto company CEO kidnapped, held for $1M ransom before being released
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November 10, 2024, 07:12:25 PM Last edit: November 10, 2024, 07:31:15 PM by Frankolala |
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Maybe, an insider plot for his kidnap or the CEO made a deal with someone who plot for his kidnap, because I don't see how someone as influential as that would be kidnapped easily. However, anything is possible and that is why when it is about your crypto investment, you need to keep it secret because you don't know who is an enemy that would make you his target. If I am outside, I act as if I am not a bitcoin investor and I have always warned my family members not to tell anyone that I have bitcoin for safety. Sometimes our loved ones can endanger our lives because they want to use your to brag outside.
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November 10, 2024, 08:00:43 PM |
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How can such a person protect themselves from being robbed? Even with their private security, nothing is still impossible.
There most likely is a breach in his private security details. I did not know the kind of relationship he must have had with his private security, but sometimes you need to show love and concern to these individuals risking their lives for you, keep them happy, and be on such good terms with them that they will think twice before deciding to sell you out. I know that there are terrible individuals that, regardless of the love you show them, will not hesitate to betray you at any opportunity they have, but we know that it will be easier to betray someone you don't love than someone you love. CEO's can have very bad attitudes sometimes and treat other people under them as trash. It is not proper, and such behavior can easily breed hatred.
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November 10, 2024, 11:26:16 PM |
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How can such a person protect themselves from being robbed? Even with their private security, nothing is still impossible.
There most likely is a breach in his private security details. I did not know the kind of relationship he must have had with his private security, but sometimes you need to show love and concern to these individuals risking their lives for you, keep them happy, and be on such good terms with them that they will think twice before deciding to sell you out. I know that there are terrible individuals that, regardless of the love you show them, will not hesitate to betray you at any opportunity they have, but we know that it will be easier to betray someone you don't love than someone you love. CEO's can have very bad attitudes sometimes and treat other people under them as trash. It is not proper, and such behavior can easily breed hatred. Well, that could also be. However, for most of the reasons, it could be financially motivated. Know that most of the kidnapped incidents involved millionaires and executives so they can ask big ransom from the wealth of these people. While there could be securities that have love or hatred for their bosses, still if money is involved, these kidnappers will do some criminal acts where they will be the one to benefit in the end.
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November 11, 2024, 04:12:00 AM |
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Details are still missing, so we can't speculate further. From the description, it sounds like he had no private security around him, which is surprising if that is true. It's also interesting that the security expert interviewed on that news stated this is the 171st case of physical violence involving Bitcoin. I dunno if that number is high compared to other crimes, but I'd expect high-profile individuals to realize the risk whenever they move from one place to another. Some regular joe holding less than $1k in crypto can be targeted for this crime. I don't think I've found one major case in my area though, albeit scams are rampant.
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November 11, 2024, 04:47:05 AM |
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But it's a different case when we talk about big names in the crypto industry, people who are CEOs of exchanges and other crypto holding companies. Everyone knows that such people are crypto holders. How can such a person protect themselves from being robbed? Even with their private security, nothing is still impossible.
Even if no one knows exactly how much your wealth is, they still know you are a powerful and wealthy man if your name is plastered in your company. Unless you want to go into complete hiding, and by that I mean going anonymous and not managing your company yourself, there will always be potential harm coming your way. It doesn't even have to come from strangers. Rich people are often targeted by those closest to them even their families. How can you protect yourself if you are a wealthy and powerful man? Get the best security and learn self-defense. Learn to value privacy and stop flexing on people. Earn your money and live quietly.
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Plaguedeath
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November 11, 2024, 04:51:34 AM |
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I did not know the kind of relationship he must have had with his private security, but sometimes you need to show love and concern to these individuals risking their lives for you, keep them happy, and be on such good terms with them that they will think twice before deciding to sell you out. I know that there are terrible individuals that, regardless of the love you show them, will not hesitate to betray you at any opportunity they have, but we know that it will be easier to betray someone you don't love than someone you love.
CEO's can have very bad attitudes sometimes and treat other people under them as trash. It is not proper, and such behavior can easily breed hatred.
It's easy for you to said than done. Imagine you're the CEO and you want to get close with anyone, do you think they will not ask for money? most people will ask money from the rich because they think the rich has an unlimited money. If you didn't give them money, they will hate you and call you stingy. If you give your money, they either ask you more or not want to return it, when you ask them to return the money, they will give many excuses. And then they will say CEO have a very bad attitudes because they're rich but stingy.
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November 11, 2024, 04:57:37 AM |
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Re: Toronto crypto company CEO kidnapped, held for $1M ransom before being released  More of these kinds of incidents in the future. I mean the last incident regarding person that's involved into crypto was somebody that got robbed. Can't remember the details, but it's been months since that happened, and now it happened again. Not having a security when you're that wealthy is kind of surprising, but if you're a person that's involved into crypto, always protect yourself at all costs. --- How can you protect yourself if you are a wealthy and powerful man? Get the best security and learn self-defense. Learn to value privacy and stop flexing on people. Earn your money and live quietly.
Hmmm, wherever you go, always have your security team at your back. That's what will make you feel protected and secured all the time. As for self-defense, there are some that can do it, but most of them can't that's why they're hiring the best security team that can do it for them. As for privacy, this is also the reason why I'm not saying anything related to crypto to anybody around me. I might be flexing something today, but tomorrow, somebody might try to steal it from me through various things. Whatever the case is, always don't flex like you said, and to add, it's better to always live below your means.
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November 11, 2024, 05:10:06 AM |
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In terms of security and privacy, we always advise everyone to keep their holdings a secret to avoid being robbed or other by close relatives or targeted by criminals outside. But it's a different case when we talk about big names in the crypto industry, people who are CEOs of exchanges and other crypto holding companies. Everyone knows that such people are crypto holders. How can such a person protect themselves from being robbed? Even with their private security, nothing is still impossible.
Privacy matters. Anonymity matters. Small name or big name, famous or not famous, if your anonymity and privacy leaked, you have more risk. Risks of fund steal in hack, physical attacks like kidnap, murder. Physical Bitcoin attacks.All known physical attacks on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies (2014 - 2022).
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November 11, 2024, 05:34:40 AM |
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I don't know how someone as important as that could be kidnapped so easily, because usually important people have scheduled activities and they won't just meet people. But maybe his case is purely criminal or there is manipulation, or whatever we can't be sure. But indeed people who are involved in the crypto world are quite vulnerable to criminal acts, especially now that many people know how valuable a crypto is and that might be a motivation for criminals to target people like this.
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avikz
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November 11, 2024, 05:48:52 AM |
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Canada has become a playground for the terrorists! So it's nothing unusual! That's why a wise man once said -
When something good is happening - tell no one! When your life is experiencing good fortune - tell no one!
The whole point of crypto is anonymity! But when it comes to a crypto company, it's probably not kept hidden due to obvious reasons. The CEO might have invested in having personal security. Unfortunate incident!
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November 11, 2024, 06:45:21 AM |
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In terms of security and privacy, we always advise everyone to keep their holdings a secret to avoid being robbed or other by close relatives or targeted by criminals outside. But it's a different case when we talk about big names in the crypto industry, people who are CEOs of exchanges and other crypto holding companies. Everyone knows that such people are crypto holders. How can such a person protect themselves from being robbed? Even with their private security, nothing is still impossible.
It's high time some CEOs learn some lessons from Satoshi nakamoto. CEOs may try their best in being heavily protected always, keeping their current locations hidden and doing many other stuffs not to face situations like this. But as long as people konw their real identity, they will always be at risk. A simple insider job will blow up everything. It will be safer if these public figures invest more in staying anonymous just like Satoshi did. They should separate their personal lives from their businesses. If people don't know who they are, they won't see them as potential targets. Except they are 100% sure of protecting themselves with physical security, then we shouldn't care much since they can always take care of themselves.
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hugeblack
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November 11, 2024, 08:26:03 AM |
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This incident can be repeated if you buy a luxury car, an expensive watch, or any indicator of wealth that has nothing to do with cryptocurrencies. It is true that privacy will help you avoid 90%, but you cannot hide all your wealth, especially if you hold a position such as CEO. Then, staying in a safe area and with a security team will help reduce such incidents.
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November 11, 2024, 09:53:01 AM |
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While keeping crypto holdings private is smart, incidents like the kidnapping of the CEO of WonderFi in Toronto show that with increased security, high-profile crypto leaders carry different risks. The case mentioned by OP, which pretty much outlines how big security efforts can be breached when criminals target specific individuals for their perceived wealth in crypto. It should, however, be put into perspective that while those cases are cause for concern, they are relatively few in number and often involve complex networks of crime. There are also protective measures that might be employed by crypto CEOs and other high-profile figures to anonymize transactions and use custodial services to separate personal identity from holdings. It's not a perfect shield, but inbuilding extra layers of privacy and security, risk is reduced along with complicating targeting.
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November 11, 2024, 10:01:05 AM |
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Canada has become a playground for the terrorists! So it's nothing unusual! That's why a wise man once said -
When something good is happening - tell no one! When your life is experiencing good fortune - tell no one!
People need to do this for their safety first, it is most important thing in their lives, because they can lose their lives too. No matter that they're living in a good or bad nation, which has low or high criminal cases and rate reported, they must always take care of their own safety and lives. The whole point of crypto is anonymity! But when it comes to a crypto company, it's probably not kept hidden due to obvious reasons. The CEO might have invested in having personal security. Unfortunate incident!
People belong to many types and we can see that not all people joined this market because they want either privacy or anonymity. From their practice, we can know about their main interests in this industry. Most of people are participating in this industry to find chances of getting rich as either millionaires or billionaires. They don't actually care about privacy or anonymity, and their practice proves this.
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November 11, 2024, 12:23:07 PM |
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Damn, that's a tough one. Just tells you that it's always better to fly under the radar, unless you are will to pay some protection service or whatever. But obviously this also comes to a cost of limited privacy of course. At least it ended well and he got released, that's not so common as well. Sometimes they will just ask for more (because the people showed willingness to pay) or they straight up kill the hostage not to leave any "lose ends". The article says the ransom was paid "electronically" so it's fair to assume it was some crypto. Let's see how smart these guys are to actually get away with it. Often enough these clowns are found because of some unsafe form of cashing out the dirty coins, hopefully they are stupid enough to be like that. 
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November 11, 2024, 01:43:35 PM |
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Someone definitely made a mistake somewhere. Either in terms of protecting the man or in terms of keeping his location anonymous. You don't "just" kidnap anyone and then ask them for a ransom of 1m lol, most unplanned ones would probably end up with a body down the river. When something good is happening - tell no one! When your life is experiencing good fortune - tell no one!
Words to live by. Heck, I reckon you can live your life pretty well without telling anyone anything, good or bad. Can probably share about personal problems but that's about it. Anything outside of "persona", aka money involved stuff, you're probably better off hiring professionals to help than getting that "free" advice from someone. God knows what they're planning for you.
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November 11, 2024, 01:59:55 PM |
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It was definitely unethical for them to pay a million dollars to reward them for the kidnapping. We can now expect more people to be kidnapped because of that unethical behavior. The correct answer is to neutralize the threat using elevated force. Canadians can strengthen their mental state to one of tough love for situations like this. Of course any CEO without adequate security can be kidnapped, not just a crypto CEO.
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November 11, 2024, 03:10:33 PM |
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if there is anything i hate about stories like this its the fact that the kidnappers get rewarded for their evil deed.one of my favorite slogans in a movie still remains 'we do not negotiate with terrorists' cause where does the cycle stop? the more ransom keeps getting paid to kidnappers the more people continue going into it cause they will see it as a very lucrative endeavor and enterprise which creates more dangers to the society. secondly i think wealthy people should be very security conscious cause kidnap cases are a matter of life and death,they should not just have a security detail but the best they can find and also try to be under the radar.you can't be that wealthy and you were so easily kidnapped without any gun battle so i think his security apparatus was really weak.
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November 11, 2024, 03:37:09 PM |
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There most likely is a breach in his private security details.
Or he did not have private security at all? Not all CEOs walk about with security details, some just go about their normal life. The difference is they are rich so they don't go to places where crime is rampant. In a city like Toronto, I'm sure many high-profile guys go about their day as normal individuals. They're not celebrities so they won't be recognised on the street by anybody as an influential person. This is not just a bitcoin thing btw. We often say don't let people know how much you have in your wallet, but with rich people, there's no way you can hide your wealth. People may not know how much you have but where you work or what company you own is public and aside from getting a security detail, I don't think there's any way you can protect yourself in that situation. All I can say is, high profile people should just keep to high profile areas to avoid such situations.
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