Location of next European Bitcoin Conference (London v Berlin)

[Ente]

Fuck everything else in town

I'd be fucking pissed if it wasn't all-day.

Relax, dude! lol

Ente

[muyuu]

+1 London

[D.H.]

Well, people can do both, you know.   Don't be so squared.

If I flew all the way from South Korea to go to a conference/convention, I'd be fucking pissed if it wasn't all-day.

And here's how some other people might think: "Berlin, yeah that's not too far and I wanted to see Berlin anyway. Let's see if my girlfriend want to go for a weekend trip, I don't have to attend everything at the conference anyway so we'll have some time together to see Berlin too".

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I really don't understand or appreciate the "there are lots of other things to see in town too!" arguments. Fuck everything else in town, no one is going for a sightseeing expedition of a town, they're going to a convention/conference.

Well, people can do both, you know.   Don't be so squared.

If I flew all the way from South Korea to go to a conference/convention, I'd be fucking pissed if it wasn't all-day.

Matt, you can be at the conference all day. Come 8 o clock, I want a beer and a joint.

[muyuu]

And here's how some other people might think: "Berlin, yeah that's not too far and I wanted to see Berlin anyway. Let's see if my girlfriend want to go for a weekend trip, I don't have to attend everything at the conference anyway so we'll have some time together to see Berlin too".

Same can be said for London. There's plenty to do and see in London as well.

[D.H.]

And here's how some other people might think: "Berlin, yeah that's not too far and I wanted to see Berlin anyway. Let's see if my girlfriend want to go for a weekend trip, I don't have to attend everything at the conference anyway so we'll have some time together to see Berlin too".

Same can be said for London. There's plenty to do and see in London as well.

Yes, of course, this was just a response to Matthew's "Fuck everything else in town, no one is going for a sightseeing expedition".

[muyuu]

London is the #1 city for banking and trading in Europe, by far. If this event has decent media coverage a lot of capital could be entering the bitcoin market.

I'd say the fact that it's quite unknown here in London is an argument to have the conference here. Also, it's well connected to Asia and America.

I don't know what are the expectations for this event though. If it's going to be mostly a get-together, then probably Berlin is better as it's closer to a bigger number of current users.

[Matthew N. Wright]

And here's how some other people might think: "Berlin, yeah that's not too far and I wanted to see Berlin anyway. Let's see if my girlfriend want to go for a weekend trip, I don't have to attend everything at the conference anyway so we'll have some time together to see Berlin too".

Same can be said for London. There's plenty to do and see in London as well.

Yes, of course, this was just a response to Matthew's "Fuck everything else in town, no one is going for a sightseeing expedition".

Hehe. Yes well, nothing wrong with stopping to smell the roses, but I'd prefer that the roses be at the conference.

[Ente]

London is the #1 city for banking and trading in Europe, by far. If this event has decent media coverage a lot of capital could be entering the bitcoin market.

I'd say the fact that it's quite unknown here in London is an argument to have the conference here. Also, it's well connected to Asia and America.

I don't know what are the expectations for this event though. If it's going to be mostly a get-together, then probably Berlin is better as it's closer to a bigger number of current users.

What you say about London being more of a banking capital seems true.
Will that help Bitcoin? Is Bitcoin "grown up" enough to look for contact with the old banking system? Should we ever do something in that direction at all? And finally, even if we decided to do so, what would it change? Walking in all major banks and telling them "Hey, we'll have this awesome conference in a month!"? :-)

Unfortunately I didnt attend Praque. But I imagine it is more of a get-together than a coordinated connect-to-the-banks/finance/government..

Ente

[muyuu]

London is the #1 city for banking and trading in Europe, by far. If this event has decent media coverage a lot of capital could be entering the bitcoin market.

I'd say the fact that it's quite unknown here in London is an argument to have the conference here. Also, it's well connected to Asia and America.

I don't know what are the expectations for this event though. If it's going to be mostly a get-together, then probably Berlin is better as it's closer to a bigger number of current users.

What you say about London being more of a banking capital seems true.
Will that help Bitcoin? Is Bitcoin "grown up" enough to look for contact with the old banking system? Should we ever do something in that direction at all? And finally, even if we decided to do so, what would it change? Walking in all major banks and telling them "Hey, we'll have this awesome conference in a month!"? :-)

Unfortunately I didnt attend Praque. But I imagine it is more of a get-together than a coordinated connect-to-the-banks/finance/government..

Ente

Actually "contact" with the old banking system is very needed. We need capital to switch to bitcoin.

[becoin]

Actually "contact" with the old banking system is very needed. We need capital to switch to bitcoin.

I doubt we need capital to switch to bitcoin. But even if you feel you need looking for capital the old banking system is the wrong place to look into. There is no capital there. There is only debt. And not just debt but extremely leveraged debt!

[muyuu]

Actually "contact" with the old banking system is very needed. We need capital to switch to bitcoin.

I doubt we need capital to switch to bitcoin. But even if you feel you need looking for capital the old banking system is the wrong place to look into. There is no capital there. There is only debt. And not just debt but extremely leveraged debt!

There is a lot of people with capital close to the banking system or into it. Having cities like London well aware of bitcoin would be a massive boost. Some of the biggest news agencies in the world have their European (or global) HQs here in London as well.

The strength and actual real world usability of bitcoin largely depends right now of its exchange for fiat. Fiat rules the world right now, not acknowledging that is absurd. Implying that the bitcoin economy doesn't need capital to switch sounds delusional to me.

That said, maybe this conference won't have a big publicity impact, or is not even expected to. As I said before, if the main goal is to get the most current bitcoin users together, then Berlin makes more sense. It's closer to most bitcoin users in Europe.

[Nefario]

It's going to have a very public impact.

Trust me.

[muyuu]

Would this be in March or April? it would be nice to know with enough time in advance to book for cheaper.

[BTCurious]

Would this be in March or April? it would be nice to know with enough time in advance to book for cheaper.

Not before August, if I recall correctly.

[wareen]

Would this be in March or April? it would be nice to know with enough time in advance to book for cheaper.

To quote from Amir:

Yeah, we're going to make an announcement soon after we confirm the venue. We're shooting for either September or December.

[Nefario]

The conference is going to be in December so there will be ample time to prepare.

[disclaimer201]

I'm not sure if it's the right year for going super public and carrying Bitcoin to London yet. There are still many important problems to solve and bitcoin is far from going mainstream. The media won't help much until those issues are resolved. They will write about it as some of them already have and illustrate all the shortcomings of the system esp its security issues (recent and last years hacks) and its volatility. No banker in their right mind will take it seriously, esp since it's a system whose promotion will put their job on the line in the future.

If you ask me, we are still (and should be) in an underdog position working things out, making a strategy, and forming a community. Berlin would be the right (ie cheaper) place for that. Instead of London in December 2012, make it spring 2013. No big difference.

[Forp]

There will be a Bitcoin tutorial and workshop in Braunschweig as part of the German computer scientists meeting. It will be mixed language (English and German).

http://bitcoin.uni-rostock.de

The results of the workshop will be published as a special issue of Future Internet.

http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ajax/events/futureinternet

[molecular]

There will be a Bitcoin tutorial and workshop in Braunschweig as part of the German computer scientists meeting. It will be mixed language (English and German).

http://bitcoin.uni-rostock.de

The results of the workshop will be published as a special issue of Future Internet.

http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ajax/events/futureinternet

Clemens Kap is probably involved. Those of you who have been to the Prague conference know him. He had this hw-device... wonder what's become of it.