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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
Maybe you're under so much mental stress that you're venting here, but don't misunderstand that what has happened to you is purely due to your own recklessness, right? You are not wrong in giving a warning but when judging people fate will be the same as what happened to you then it is unethical as if someone gambling lust is equated with lust that you cannot control. Take a break and maybe some mental therapy will help you think clearly.
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Lucius
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November 29, 2024, 12:11:20 PM |
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~snip~ because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
It's actually a matter of approach, because gambling can and should be fun, and for me personally it's much less evil than drugs or alcohol, although of course I don't want to minimize the problems that arise from any kind of addiction. We can now discuss whether the greater blame lies with those who offer gambling or the greater blame lies with those who cannot control themselves - perhaps it would be correct to say that both sides bear the blame. -snip- Everyone has the right to share its personal opinion and I respect GofarChan for the ability to modulate the tone of his message even after losing a big amount (I guess) of money gambling.
I don't think the comparison is fair in general, but there are different degrees in the use and abuse of these substances and activities. There is a lesson to be learned when you make some decisions like trying (hard) drugs or (hardcore) gambling, and the price to pay for these lessons is high sometimes.I'm not saying that he doesn't have the right to his opinion, but I wonder if he has the "experience" to compare gambling and drugs in terms of addiction - for which I personally believe that the latter is far worse. Drugs destroy the mind and body, gambling addiction primarily affects the human mind and it is easier to get rid of it with great will and professional help.
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November 29, 2024, 12:21:52 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
How much have you lost in gambling ? because you sounds like a total gambling hater . If $20 seem like a less money to you it might be a lot for others, I don't have to know how much this person lost in gambling, I can already feel how pained he is for losing money on gambling. I hope he heals in no time and learns from his mistake, or gambling will forever be a hating ground for him, many people don't even understand the true meaning of gambling, if they do they will all trend slowly. You are on your own if you believe that gambling can change your story, learn to crave some enjoyment from gambling, that's all I can say, anything more than this you are on your own.
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November 29, 2024, 12:39:15 PM |
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Everyone has the right to share its personal opinion and I respect GofarChan for the ability to modulate the tone of his message even after losing a big amount (I guess) of money gambling.
I don't think the comparison is fair in general, but there are different degrees in the use and abuse of these substances and activities. There is a lesson to be learned when you make some decisions like trying (hard) drugs or (hardcore) gambling, and the price to pay for these lessons is high sometimes.
I'm not saying that he doesn't have the right to his opinion, but I wonder if he has the "experience" to compare gambling and drugs in terms of addiction - for which I personally believe that the latter is far worse. Drugs destroy the mind and body, gambling addiction primarily affects the human mind and it is easier to get rid of it with great will and professional help. Actually both are still bad addictions because the impact is not much different, but yes I seem to agree with you that drug addiction can be much worse than gambling, as you said that the effects of drugs damage the body and reduce a person's ability to think, I also have a friend who is really addicted to drugs, for financial problems of course drugs can also destroy a person's financial situation because the goods are bought with money but the more serious side effects are on the user's body, while gambling most of the impacts of addiction damage a person's financial situation and mind but do not damage parts of a person's body, basically as I said above that both are still bad impacts but maybe it can be said that drugs are much worse and more difficult to overcome because when someone does not consume illegal drugs usually their body will weaken and fall ill.
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summonerrk
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November 29, 2024, 12:44:35 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
Maybe you're under so much mental stress that you're venting here, but don't misunderstand that what has happened to you is purely due to your own recklessness, right? You are not wrong in giving a warning but when judging people fate will be the same as what happened to you then it is unethical as if someone gambling lust is equated with lust that you cannot control. Take a break and maybe some mental therapy will help you think clearly. However, it is a very correct step that he speaks out here. Believe me, it is always very important and is the first step to getting rid of problem gambling. Yes, we are all anonymous here, but nevertheless this guy is trying to help all strangers, warning them against uncontrolled gambling. A great step for him would be to speak out in person to people who understand the problem of gambling or who simply care. And this is much more important than any appointments with expensive doctors, who do not necessarily understand how to help such people.
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November 29, 2024, 12:54:53 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I don't know how Satoshi comes in the picture gambling, but either way we are all entitled to our opinions...and just so you know number of gamblers both in forex trading and sports gambling are so many out there..and the only reason we continue having crazy numbers of depression, broken families etc is because we never risk what we can afford to lose, and greed has to top the chart.. I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs.
I don't know about this comparison but I know is that the name of the game is self control, if you can control yourself then you should be all good. Btw, in our world to survive you need to be a risk taker at times...if you chose to play it say then everything will be dictated to you.
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Porfirii
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November 29, 2024, 02:26:41 PM |
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~snip~ because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
It's actually a matter of approach, because gambling can and should be fun, and for me personally it's much less evil than drugs or alcohol, although of course I don't want to minimize the problems that arise from any kind of addiction. We can now discuss whether the greater blame lies with those who offer gambling or the greater blame lies with those who cannot control themselves - perhaps it would be correct to say that both sides bear the blame. -snip- Everyone has the right to share its personal opinion and I respect GofarChan for the ability to modulate the tone of his message even after losing a big amount (I guess) of money gambling.
I don't think the comparison is fair in general, but there are different degrees in the use and abuse of these substances and activities. -snip-
I'm not saying that he doesn't have the right to his opinion, but I wonder if he has the "experience" to compare gambling and drugs in terms of addiction - for which I personally believe that the latter is far worse. -snip- Yes, I didn't mean you meant that either, and I agree with you that addiction to substances are worse in general than gambling addiction, exceptions apart. For one reason gambling is legal in most non Islamic countries, but hard drugs aren't. Even if we compared gambling with legal substances like alcohol or tobacco, I would keep thinking that the comparison is unfair. But I can understand how someone who had a very bad experience, like the OP, can think otherwise.
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November 29, 2024, 02:26:45 PM |
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However, it is a very correct step that he speaks out here. Believe me, it is always very important and is the first step to getting rid of problem gambling. Yes, we are all anonymous here, but nevertheless this guy is trying to help all strangers, warning them against uncontrolled gambling. A great step for him would be to speak out in person to people who understand the problem of gambling or who simply care. And this is much more important than any appointments with expensive doctors, who do not necessarily understand how to help such people.
This kind of experience isn’t new actually, as gamblers, we should already know the risks far outweigh the rewards in gambling. @GofarChan problem happenned because of irresponsible gambling, and for sure we are familiar with this line.. "only gamble what you can afford to lose." ..So, if you don’t follow that rule, then you’re being an irresponsible gambler. The blame here isn’t on the gambling sites, but it’s on the gambler. so really, it doesn’t make sense to tell everyone to stay away from gambling just because someone didn’t play responsibly.
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danherbias07
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November 29, 2024, 02:37:13 PM |
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Gambling addiction or drug addiction is a problem that affects anyone who is addicted. A drug addict will be physically affected, while a gambler can be physically and mentally affected. Any addictive activity is not normal. That is why a person should determine his limits before becoming addicted. What happens in the case of gambling is that when a gambler tries to make more or suddenly has a strong desire to become rich, the possibilities of losing increase among those gamblers and at some point the gambler becomes addicted to gambling. If you take it as entertainment for a short period of time rather than earning money, there is no possibility of becoming addicted. I do not blame gambling for addiction, the gambler himself is responsible for it.
Yes, I do agree with your point. It's the gambler's responsibility to keep gambling under his control and be a responsible gambler too. If he becomes addicted to it, then that's his own problem and it just means he is weak mentally and should not be continuing that kind of habit. But, we have seen a lot of gamblers blaming online casinos as means of them becoming gambling addicts, but the truth is, it is our choice in the first place if we are going to bet or not, play or not, gamble or not. It's human nature to find something or someone to blame his own mistakes and I think this is why many online casinos had been injecting "gambling responsibly" features and self-exclusion to keep them safe from such blames.
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November 29, 2024, 02:49:04 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
How much have you lost in gambling ? because you sounds like a total gambling hater . If $20 seem like a less money to you it might be a lot for others, I don't have to know how much this person lost in gambling, I can already feel how pained he is for losing money on gambling. I hope he heals in no time and learns from his mistake, or gambling will forever be a hating ground for him, many people don't even understand the true meaning of gambling, if they do they will all trend slowly. You are on your own if you believe that gambling can change your story, learn to crave some enjoyment from gambling, that's all I can say, anything more than this you are on your own. It is true that all risks depend on each individual, in fact there is nothing wrong if people urge us to stop gambling immediately, it does not mean that the person is against gambling, because we do not know what will happen to us in the future, it is better to accept suggestions or advice from other people, before no one wants to advise us.
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November 29, 2024, 03:03:16 PM |
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For someone who is deeply addicted staying away from gambling might be very difficult. It's not easy to break an addiction, you can only come out of it with conscious consistency to change your lifestyle. Most gamblers find it hard to quit because they have hopes that they might win big someday or recover everything they have lost. You have had terrible experiences with it and that's very unfortunate, every gambler has a story to tell. One thing I wouldn't advice anyone to do is borrow money to gamble, it's really unwise, your debts would have been avoided if you didn't take loans to gamble, well it's a lesson to you.
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dansus021
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November 29, 2024, 03:33:59 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
Stay away from gambling before it's too late. Good advice really hahahha Im just addicted as you freenn I believe you are a higher rank here in Bitcointalk but you choose to register new account to make sure you safe, smart move. But it is a good advice freenn stop gambling is hard I tried it till this today but sometimes is just fill my head just do gamble responsible and dont gamble outside your budget. Only money that you can afford to lose
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~snip~ because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
It's actually a matter of approach, because gambling can and should be fun, and for me personally it's much less evil than drugs or alcohol, although of course I don't want to minimize the problems that arise from any kind of addiction. We can now discuss whether the greater blame lies with those who offer gambling or the greater blame lies with those who cannot control themselves - perhaps it would be correct to say that both sides bear the blame. -snip- Everyone has the right to share its personal opinion and I respect GofarChan for the ability to modulate the tone of his message even after losing a big amount (I guess) of money gambling.
I don't think the comparison is fair in general, but there are different degrees in the use and abuse of these substances and activities. -snip-
I'm not saying that he doesn't have the right to his opinion, but I wonder if he has the "experience" to compare gambling and drugs in terms of addiction - for which I personally believe that the latter is far worse. -snip- Yes, I didn't mean you meant that either, and I agree with you that addiction to substances are worse in general than gambling addiction, exceptions apart. For one reason gambling is legal in most non Islamic countries, but hard drugs aren't. Even if we compared gambling with legal substances like alcohol or tobacco, I would keep thinking that the comparison is unfair. But I can understand how someone who had a very bad experience, like the OP, can think otherwise. While most persons even claim to be addicted, at times it is not a case of such what literally is the problem is greed, some people are not addicted they just want to risk it all knowing they have minimal chances of hitting the target. Getting gambling addicted is not as easy as we might claim, a lot of people quit gambling as soon as their loses keep going over their wins unlike drugs and substances that has side effects as soon as one tries to avoid it, doing that comparison is totally insane, gambling addiction is far less compared to drugs addiction. If at all OP had made fortunes from his gambling he would have turned to a gambling motivator and advices on how to trust feelings into taking risk, there is always repercussions for either of our choices, so if he lost then he is paying for his actions.
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November 29, 2024, 03:45:37 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
I think this message should be for those who are addicted to gambling and are struggling with gambling, I don't think it is a bad message for them, but you can't totally condemn gambling because it is a game for fun, and for those who are into it you can only advice them to know their limit and work with, and to also gamble with the money they can afford to lose. Gambling have been existing for a long time and there is nothing you can do to end it. I don't think gambling is the problem , the problem is that people go for it the wrong which is very effective. If people should get the understanding of how gambling works , I don't think it will be a problem affecting finance.
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OgNasty
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November 29, 2024, 04:05:20 PM |
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I don’t know if staying away from gambling is something so dire that people need to be fearmongered away from it. Certainly there are more positive forms of entertainment or healthier activities one could be partaking in to pass the time, but gambling is a long established method to find enjoyment and for some it isn’t a problem.
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
Stay away from gambling before it's too late. Good advice really hahahha Im just addicted as you freenn I believe you are a higher rank here in Bitcointalk but you choose to register new account to make sure you safe, smart move. But it is a good advice freenn stop gambling is hard I tried it till this today but sometimes is just fill my head just do gamble responsible and dont gamble outside your budget. Only money that you can afford to lose Of course, if you are addicted it becomes a big problem on you, because all the money you are making will be put into gambling without anything to show for it. I feel is greed that make people to gamble excessively in order to make profits. Unknown to him that the more he is gambling, the more he is losing and the more he can get addicted easily. This is why self control is very important when gambling, and for you to be able to control your gambling activities, you need to set up a gambling budget and time limits for your gambling activities to prevent irresponsible gambling.
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From your content, I noticed that you saying all these from experience but you can't say gambling is total nonsense no it is not. It is not because gambling didn't favour you that didn't favour another gamblers. People loss small amount in a week and win big in another weeks. Op you can't tell us that gambling is lie in what sense. But if you are talking about casino games well I will not argue with you but even at that it is your decision to take . Casinos never force you to play gamble in their websites. And if you are comparing gambling to drugs, I will prefer choosing gambling because even I am addicted to gambling there will be a day I will win some percentage of my gambling losses but in drugs addiction, you are always on the losing side.
Gambling addiction is much more decent than drugs addiction. Drugs addiction can make you to commit crimes which can lead you to live imprisonment. Though it is a good decision you have made to stop gambling.
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Issa56
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November 29, 2024, 06:11:18 PM |
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You should stay away from gambling because it's all a real lie, to hell with gambling and the like. to satoshi thank you for making all the new buzz. if you are still in this world I'm sure you will make another breakthrough for many people who are addicted to gambling. because I think gambling is the worst substance than drugs. but it seems like you are gone, and I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
It’s obvious you have gotten bad experience from gambling, but that doesn’t mean you should say gambling is bad. I know gambling has caused harm to lots of people, but those people are the ones that are addicted to gambling, which is really bad. Addicted gamblers do crazy things just to get money to gamble, if you see what addicted gamblers do, if you don’t really know much about gambling, then your perspective is going to change towards gambling. There is nothing bad with gambling, but we should make sure we don’t get addicted to gambling. When you are gambling, don’t be desperate to make money from gambling, just gamble freely, and if you win, then you can make use of the money, but don’t have plans for the money that you haven’t win.
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Jaycoinz
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November 29, 2024, 06:23:47 PM |
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Sorry you had to experience that. I will suggest you seek professional help, addictions do not just go away and when the means present itself you could relapse to gambling again.
I will tweak your message slightly to say that anyone who cannot control their gambling habits should seek help to quit and do not over expose yourself to any activity to reduce the risk of developing a dependence.
- Jay -
Seeking professional help is a nice idea but it's not the only thing required to come out of gambling addiction, the gambler must also put in effort to make sure that he's also trying to stay disciplined. People relapse back into their old habits because they lack self control, there are lots of people that spend on therapy and it still doesn't yield any positive results. There's someone I know that was one take to a rehabilitation center due to his gambling addiction but he there was no improvement because that wasn't enough, without discipline and self-control all of that would be a waste.
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November 29, 2024, 06:43:43 PM |
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I will also catch up with you if I don't get a way out from the gambling trap that ruined my finances until I'm deeply in debt.
Sorry for your experience while gambling. Gambling is not meant for everyone. If you know that you are gambling with the money that you can not afford to lose and you can not control it, it is better you should quit gambling. Gambling is not a way of making money but I think that got you into gambling addiction. Best is to quit gambling. This is correct, and if he also gambles for the sole purpose of earning from it instead of using it as a means of having fun and for entertainment purposes, the pattern those who gamble for fun use and those who gamble for the sole reason of making a profit is not the same, which is why it's easier to fall into gambling addiction or blame the system for losing.
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