⚽ FIFA Club World Cup 2025 - USA: Discussion Thread ⚽

[cygan]

the 2025 club world cup is coming up next year. this time it will be held between june 15 and july 13 in 11 cities in the united states with 12 different stadiums.
a total of 32 teams will take part, divided into 8 groups. the draw (who gets to play against whom and consisting of 4 pots) will take place this thursday in miami.

here we want to create a discussion about the tournament for all football fans and fanatics and maybe there will be one or the other who will also attend a game... who knows

here is a visual representation of the pots and the venues for the matches:

[criptoevangelista]

My favorite club (Flamengo) can finally play against European giants, although in recent years Flamengo has been in decline (or bad lucky). Maybe with coach Filipe Luis, who is young and has a winning spirit, things will change, because the last coaches we had were nothing but disappointment after disappointment.

Among the Brazilian teams, the only team that had a bad season is Fluminense, which is fighting to avoid relegation in this year's Brazilian championship. I believe that the rest of the Brazilian teams can have a good Club World Cup. Botafogo (winner of the Libertadores) has even been playing the best football in Brazil.

[hosemary]

The draw for 2025 FIFA club world cup was concluded and here are the groups.

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Group A SE Palmeiras (BRA) FC Porto (POR) Al Ahly FC (EGY) Inter Miami CF (USA)	Group B Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) Atlético de Madrid (ESP) Botafogo (BRA) Seattle Sounders FC (USA)	Group C FC Bayern München (GER) Auckland City FC (NZL) CA Boca Juniors (ARG) SL Benfica (POR)	Group D CR Flamengo (BRA) Espérance Sportive de Tunis (TUN) Chelsea FC (ENG) Club León (MEX)
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Group E CA River Plate (ARG) Urawa Red Diamonds (JPN) CF Monterrey (MEX) FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)	Group F Fluminense FC (BRA) Borussia Dortmund (GER) Ulsan HD (KOR) Mamelodi Sundowns FC (RSA)	Group G Manchester City (ENG) Wydad AC (MAR) Al Ain FC (UAE) Juventus FC (ITA)	Group H Real Madrid C. F. (ESP) Al Hilal (KSA) CF Pachuca (MEX) FC Salzburg (AUT)
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Source: fifa.com

[LTU_btc]

I still don't know what to think about this tournament. FIFA is hyping it so much, but I'm not very excited about it yet. I don't know how important this tournament will be for clubs after long season fighting in national leagues and UEFA cups. But we will see.
Difficult to say something about groups. But we can expect that only clubs from Brazil and Argentina can compete with European clubs.

[bering]

I still don't know what to think about this tournament. FIFA is hyping it so much, but I'm not very excited about it yet. I don't know how important this tournament will be for clubs after long season fighting in national leagues and UEFA cups. But we will see.
Difficult to say something about groups. But we can expect that only clubs from Brazil and Argentina can compete with European clubs.

This is new format of FIFA world cup club and FIFA has decide to held this tournament for every 4 years so it is similar to World Cup but i am not sure this tournament will be effective or not even some or European Clubs has been protest about this tournament because they fear their players will gets the injury because FIFA pushing those players to still playing after long season at their domestic league

If we talking about the group phase certainly strong teams from European would be the favourite in this tournament and indeed the strong contender for European clubs probably Brazilian Clubs or Argentina Clubs however i have seen Inter Miami will be participate so automatically Messi will playing in this tournament and Group A is relatively easy because the strongest opponent on that Group probably Palmeiras

[coinlocket$]

The only positive thing about this tournament is that it will be free on TV, globally.
For the tourament its just a marketing money tournament.

Imagine teams that need to play in July and the following season starting 3 weeks later, with players without preparation of holidays.

It will be a such bad for the team involved here.

[Amphenomenon]

My favorite club (Flamengo) can finally play against European giants, although in recent years Flamengo has been in decline (or bad lucky). Maybe with coach Filipe Luis, who is young and has a winning spirit, things will change, because the last coaches we had were nothing but disappointment after disappointment.

Flamengo is in the same group with Chelsea which is the club I support especially from the fact that none of my country club made it this far. Is good to know Filipe Luis is now the manager of this club. It will be a reunion with him with his former club in the EPL which was Chelsea, I still remember he had a brief spare with Chelsea. Although they still have a high chance of making it pass group D, since there are 2 teams qualifying from each group to the next stage.

[nelson4lov]

When the initial list went live on X, a lot of people had questions about how Chelsea qualified when teams like Liverpool, City and Arsenal were much better last season and didn't make the cut.

Can someone share the eligibility requirements / criteria?

I enjoyed this Tournament when my team (Liverpool) competed and won it. Looking forward to doing the same even if we're not participating this time.

[Rruchi man]

After seeing Inter Miami, it would have been nice Al Nassr too; maybe we would have had the Messi and Ronaldo comparison to spark up the competition.

I see another competition that Chelsea can win, but hopefully it is not to the detriment of their Premier League season that is good so far, and they look like they will be able to secure a Champions League spot for next season.

[hosemary]

When the initial list went live on X, a lot of people had questions about how Chelsea qualified when teams like Liverpool, City and Arsenal were much better last season and didn't make the cut.

Chelsea quilified for 2025 FIFA club world cup as the winner of 2020–21 UEFA champions league.
Note that Manchester city will take part in the tournament too. They qualified as the winner of 2022–23 UEFA champions league.

Can someone share the eligibility requirements / criteria?

UEFA has 12 slots in the tournament.
Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester City qualified for the tournament as the winners of the last 4 editions of the champions league and the other teams qualified through their four year ranking.

[uneng]

I'm going to watch Botafogo's matches on this tournament, as it's the team I'm fan and as I'm enjoying their current season pretty much. I like the charisma of the team, besides the performance they are displaying. I'm not sure yet if I should be excited about this tournament, because I don't know how strong the another clubs are going to be, but I hope to watch some exciting and thrilling games, like the ones from Brasileirão 2024 and Libertadores da América 2024 involving Botafogo.

For other people who don't have a strong connection with any of the participant clubs, I think this tournament won't be very interesting, though.

[Franctoshi]

I still don't know what to think about this tournament. FIFA is hyping it so much, but I'm not very excited about it yet. I don't know how important this tournament will be for clubs after long season fighting in national leagues and UEFA cups. But we will see.
Difficult to say something about groups. But we can expect that only clubs from Brazil and Argentina can compete with European clubs.

Yes, the Brazilian teams are definitely kind a of force to be reckoned with base on their performance , we have five teams qualify this tournament from Brazillian league, Flamingo ,Boca Juniors, Fluminense, and Botafago will also do well in the 2025 tournament,  furthermore,  we will have club like inter Miami from USA to challenge any of the European clubs due to the presence of Argentina Lionel Messi. Would be an interesting tournament to watch it's games.

[criptoevangelista]

My favorite club (Flamengo) can finally play against European giants, although in recent years Flamengo has been in decline (or bad lucky). Maybe with coach Filipe Luis, who is young and has a winning spirit, things will change, because the last coaches we had were nothing but disappointment after disappointment.

Flamengo is in the same group with Chelsea which is the club I support especially from the fact that none of my country club made it this far. Is good to know Filipe Luis is now the manager of this club. It will be a reunion with him with his former club in the EPL which was Chelsea, I still remember he had a brief spare with Chelsea. Although they still have a high chance of making it pass group D, since there are 2 teams qualifying from each group to the next stage.

I remember when Filipe Luis played for Chelsea. He was a reserve and was very disappointed with José Mourinho for not playing, but he really wasn't doing so well defensively at that time. As for his career as a coach, he has been demonstrating a way of working that has been very pleasing to the fans. It's a style very similar to what Jorge Jesus did during the 2019 season, when he reached the Club World Cup final playing on equal terms with Liverpool.

Chelsea last played against Brazilian teams in 2022 against Palmeiras, one of the best teams in Brazil. I'm really looking forward to this championship. It's not every day that we get to see Brazilian teams playing against the big European teams.

[Slow death]

Liverpool will not be playing in this competition, nor will Barcelona, ​​which are great teams and if they were in this competition, it would make things more competitive. But looking at the teams that are in this competition, I would say that it will be an interesting competition, because there will be African teams that will play against European teams that have African players and we will also see cases where there will be African teams with a very low financial condition compared to the European teams, so it will be interesting to see if the African teams can win and go far.

[Marvelockg]

After seeing Inter Miami, it would have been nice Al Nassr too; maybe we would have had the Messi and Ronaldo comparison to spark up the competition.

I see another competition that Chelsea can win, but hopefully it is not to the detriment of their Premier League season that is good so far, and they look like they will be able to secure a Champions League spot for next season.

it's good to see inter Miami being featured in this club world cup and we get to see Messi playing again with this current generation of super stars that he inspires. it would have been more exciting to see his rival participate in the tournament but it's certainly not happening since Al Nasir isn't part of tournament. with the teams in the tournament, inter Miami won't even go far even though they might scale through the group stage. With Dortmund, Chelsea, real Madrid, man city, Bayern and Milan all fully represented in the tournament, it is going to be a tough one for them to scale through these guys knowing that the Saudi pro league is far less intense compared to what's going on in the premier league, LaLiga and Bundesliga.

group stage might not really be too fierce but once they key teams we are all looking out for successfully gets out of the group stage and gets featured against themselves, that is going to be when the tournament has started fully. for Chelsea that are not in a tough league other than the premier league and that are looking forward to the champions league in the coming season if the make it to top four at the end of the season, performing well in this tournament will give them an idea on how the champions league will look like if they qualify for it.

[Amphenomenon]

My favorite club (Flamengo) can finally play against European giants, although in recent years Flamengo has been in decline (or bad lucky). Maybe with coach Filipe Luis, who is young and has a winning spirit, things will change, because the last coaches we had were nothing but disappointment after disappointment.

Flamengo is in the same group with Chelsea which is the club I support especially from the fact that none of my country club made it this far. Is good to know Filipe Luis is now the manager of this club. It will be a reunion with him with his former club in the EPL which was Chelsea, I still remember he had a brief spare with Chelsea. Although they still have a high chance of making it pass group D, since there are 2 teams qualifying from each group to the next stage.

I remember when Filipe Luis played for Chelsea. He was a reserve and was very disappointed with José Mourinho for not playing, but he really wasn't doing so well defensively at that time. As for his career as a coach, he has been demonstrating a way of working that has been very pleasing to the fans. It's a style very similar to what Jorge Jesus did during the 2019 season, when he reached the Club World Cup final playing on equal terms with Liverpool.

Indeed his spare at Chelsea wasn't has he wanted but he returned to his club Atletico Madrid where we got him after a season.
I haven't been following up much on him after then and didn't know he has become a coach at Flamengo. Chelsea will have a club legend reunion in that game, which is David Luiz. Realised he is playing here and will be play against the blues again, I anticipate this game more.

Chelsea last played against Brazilian teams in 2022 against Palmeiras, one of the best teams in Brazil. I'm really looking forward to this championship. It's not every day that we get to see Brazilian teams playing against the big European teams.

I remembered when Chelsea lost the club world Cup final time Corinthians, it was a really heartbreaking one, especially from the fact that it took us almost a decade to win our first club world Cup and then we defeated Palmeiras during competition. Although Corinthians didn't get to this stage while Palmeiras has a chance of moving pass this stage, since their group is not too difficulty, they just need to make good use of every opportunities they have on every match.

[Lida93]

From the results of the draws for each group it obvious that we have the big team's in Europe in each of the group  which gives me a sense of humour and whim that all the big boys like Real Madrid, Manchester City, Juventus, Borussia Dortmund,  Inter Milan, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain,  and FC Porto are mostly going to get through the group stage. For this reason, I am inclined to believe that this tournament is going to start getting interesting and classy from the round of 16 when most weak clubs must have bowed out at group stage.

I read that Donald Trump who would be sitting as US President by then would likely give an open speech to the opening of the tournament. I am thrilled to hear what his speech would be, I love to see that man speak in public.

[swogerino]

That is something I have always wanted to see, a so called "Champions League" of all continents together and I think it is a great format for this one, I am not sure if I have seen this before, I have seen those tournaments between good teams playing in USA and I don't know if it was this tournament yet that was with lower amount of teams. I love to see a Flamengo vs Dortmund game which is about to happen here, I love to see Brazilian football clubs or Argentinian football clubs fighting against Europe great guys like Manchester City and alike teams. This is definitely needed and good for betting, over 2.5 goals should be easy to get in such type of games where team of different continents face each other.

[un_rank]

This tournament promises to be an exciting one. Inter Miami with Messi will be up against top European sides adding to the thrill of the tournament. With how their group is set up, they should be able to get to the knockout phases of the tournament.

How much attention do you think clubs will give the tournament?

I see another competition that Chelsea can win, but hopefully it is not to the detriment of their Premier League season that is good so far, and they look like they will be able to secure a Champions League spot for next season.

The tournament will not be taking place in the middle of the season as before, but in the summer break between this season and the next.

- Jay -

[Akbarkoe]

The draw for 2025 FIFA club world cup was concluded and here are the groups.

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Group A SE Palmeiras (BRA) FC Porto (POR) Al Ahly FC (EGY) Inter Miami CF (USA)	Group B Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) Atlético de Madrid (ESP) Botafogo (BRA) Seattle Sounders FC (USA)	Group C FC Bayern München (GER) Auckland City FC (NZL) CA Boca Juniors (ARG) SL Benfica (POR)	Group D CR Flamengo (BRA) Espérance Sportive de Tunis (TUN) Chelsea FC (ENG) Club León (MEX)
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Group E CA River Plate (ARG) Urawa Red Diamonds (JPN) CF Monterrey (MEX) FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)	Group F Fluminense FC (BRA) Borussia Dortmund (GER) Ulsan HD (KOR) Mamelodi Sundowns FC (RSA)	Group G Manchester City (ENG) Wydad AC (MAR) Al Ain FC (UAE) Juventus FC (ITA)	Group H Real Madrid C. F. (ESP) Al Hilal (KSA) CF Pachuca (MEX) FC Salzburg (AUT)
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Source: fifa.com

The Brazilian League seems to be the one that sent the most representatives to the Club World Cup this season. At least they sent 4 teams, namely SE Palmeiras, Botafogo, CR Flamengo, and Fluminense FC. and Corinthians became the most successful Brazilian club that was able to win the Club World Cup title twice, but it is very unfortunate that this season the club is not included in the list of participants in the Club World Cup. And the last trophy they got was in 2012, this was the last year that a Brazilian club was able to win the title.

and with so many Brazilian teams participating this season, I hope one of them can win the title.

On the other hand, Real Madrid is the team that has won the most and dominated this competition, but currently the team's condition is not good, and maybe this will be a fairly difficult season for Real Madrid to get the title.