Why not all dormant addresses are lost bitcoins.

[EL MOHA]

Today bitcoin reaches an historical high by breaking into the six figure value, 15 to 10 years ago only few people have actually predicted this  historical landmark. Congratulations to everyone who got and witnessed this, now let’s ride this to a million dollars.

The most frequently asked questioned by some investors is what happens to the lost bitcoin due to burning or losing seed phrase or private and the answer is that it adds to everyone’s value according to Satoshi which is a very satisfying feeling.

One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out.

As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

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As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

Some people just prefer to hold their bitcoin and not thinking about the bear markets. They know bitcoin value and they know that the price will continue to increase. Bitcoin did not disappoints them at all as it is increasing after a long period of time. Lost addresses can not be estimated until one, two or more centuries has passed.

[Fiatless]

One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out.

As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

Anyone who feels that all dormant addresses are lost Bitcoin is ignorant or a newbie in the Bitcoin space. It is in public space that there are many long term hodlers that have been keeping their holdings for a long time. Some of the dormant addresses might contain coins that have been kept as an inheritance that will be passed to heirs.

[Cookdata]

One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out.

As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

One thing I have learnt about Bitcoin holding is that if you have enough to eat and do others aspect of life, holding your Bitcoin will be easy. Some people that are desperate and run to sell Bitcoin they bought around $20k are probably in need of the money quickly, the people that are selling are holding since 2013 when it was very cheap, despite the past ATH that we have had, they have never sell and that's because they have dedicated to holding it until a particular price is reach.

You can't hold an asset forever, there is a place where you will definitely sell. The Blackrocks, Microstrategy and the rest pouring billions now aren't doing it because they have some money to marinate the Bitcoin market, they are doing it tomorrow so they can yield something. At some point in the future, they are going to sell probably in the million values or more. So I don't think people that are moving now are sending to another wallet, they would have done that before now; this is to exchange movement.

[Mia Chloe]

Yes I agree with you and infact I've not really been of the opinion that all dormant addresses are part of the category of either lost bitcoins or probably burned coins. The reason most people say so is because they see the concept of Hodling some bitcoins for over a period of 10 years very difficult to achieve and that's bey majority of HODLers today are actually looking to get huge profits in just a very short period of time like they usually make off with meme coins on the market.

The truth is people like this usually just keep those coins sitting in a wallet and have some very secure paper wallets backup or even a hardware storage for a long time without monitoring news or chart's like most hodlers do today. Sometimes along the line you get tempted to sell it you have the habit of following up with price too frequently.

[Abu-Naim]

As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

People really believe in Bitcoin, and most of these large Bitcoin holders have money which is why they were able to hold their Bitcoin this long; however, it’s a great thing to hold Bitcoin, but hiding is for who have spare money for other expenses.

I believe these dormant wallet holders will surely buy back these Bitcoins if they price of Bitcoin dip, and most of them just met their target that’s is why they maybe sold their Bitcoin and they will wait for more opportunity to buy more Bitcoin when the price dip.

[tvplus006]

...One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out. ..

There is no such opportunity to ascertain which Bitcoins are permanently lost, other than those sent to the genesis wallet address. Although there are such cases described in the press, as a hard drive with 8,000 bitcoins was accidentally thrown away. But it is impossible to say for sure if it was really thrown away or if it was done in order to show everyone that its owner no longer has BTC.

[AVE5]

As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

Some people just prefer to hold their bitcoin and not thinking about the bear markets. They know bitcoin value and they know that the price will continue to increase. Bitcoin did not disappoints them at all as it is increasing after a long period of time. Lost addresses can not be estimated until one, two or more centuries has passed.

You're right. we keep talking about long term investment of 4 to 8 years which is estimated to hold for 2 times bitcoin market circles but that's by the way to such aspirations. There're certainly investors who has been determined to hodl their bitcoin while a working class untill their retirements before they can begin to sell or take profits out of it and this could be a matter of youth age to an old age within a distance range of 15 years before they'd hit on their wallets.
Such investors are not panicked about what the market brings in a main time because they knows that as much they holds, they'll definitely make it bigly.

I think who're skeptic about such investors would muchly assume their wallets are lost, abandoned or dormant.
I don't think of any possibilities of any investors engaging to invest on bitcoin over a decade because it can't be imagined of what generation you'd be investing for when you, your children and the grandchildren ain't going to benefit from it.
So dormant wallet can only be determined by time factors that it has been on generation to generations without being active.

[EL MOHA]

There is no such opportunity to ascertain which Bitcoins are permanently lost, other than those sent to the genesis wallet address. Although there are such cases described in the press, as a hard drive with 8,000 bitcoins was accidentally thrown away. But it is impossible to say for sure if it was really thrown away or if it was done in order to show everyone that its owner no longer has BTC.

Exactly the same argument I have there is just one way to actually tag an a bitcoin lost and it is the one sent to the genesis address or maybe the coin is sent with the OP_Return script which permanently locks the output, this two to me are the only way we can say those bitcoin are lost for ever. Even if an address remains dormant for centuries maybe because the seed phrase is lost and not that backup is destroyed there is still chances of it to be recovered and the bitcoin gotten access too. Most of this long term dormant addresses are even for inheritance purposes

[Doan9269]

Today bitcoin reaches an historical high by breaking into the six figure value, 15 to 10 years ago only few people have actually predicted this  historical landmark. Congratulations to everyone who got and witnessed this, now let’s ride this to a million dollars.

The most frequently asked questioned by some investors is what happens to the lost bitcoin due to burning or losing seed phrase or private and the answer is that it adds to everyone’s value according to Satoshi which is a very satisfying feeling.

One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out.

As bitcoin got to $100k today many dormant address started been active again by moving large amount of bitcoin out maybe to a safer wallet or to take profit. Which  signifies that dormant address are not lost bitcoins

The little additional challenge we may have to ask about is on how we are going to differentiate between a dormant address and the one that is holding bitcoin for a long term, because we cannot assume an address being dormant to loss it bitcoin, while the coins lost maybe attributed to the ones sent on a wrong address and as such is being redistributed back to the network.

[Hazink]

I don't consider dormant wallets and their holdings to be lost bitcoin unless the coins are sent to a burn address; if not, there is no way to prove that those coins are for real lost. 
 
Over the past few years, there have been news of wallets that have been dormant for years since their first transaction that recently got activities of funds being moved from them to a new wallet, and as time goes on we will see more of such happenings, which I'm not surprised about.

[tabas]

No one will ever know if those dormant addresses are lost forever. We've seen cases of it for every bull run that many of these dormant addresses that have huge amounts of Bitcoins become alive again and transfer their balances into exchange ready to be sold. That's why those that assume that they're all lost forever, we will never know. While there really are those dormant addresses that are likely lost forever due to forgotten keys or the owner of it has died, it's best not to think that all of them are lost forever but if they do, thanks to their contribution and donation to the economy.

[nakamura12]

That's just a speculation that all dormant wallet address with bitcoin in it are lost unless it is proven that it's really a lost wallet where the owner lost his/her wallet information like the private key or seed phrase. Some people may not think that it is not considered as lost just like what you can read to some of the post in this thread but i'd say that he is wrong. If it's not lost then does the bitcoin can be sent to another wallet, if the answer is yes then it is not lost but if the answer is no then it is lost.

[BlackBoss_]

The most frequently asked questioned by some investors is what happens to the lost bitcoin due to burning or losing seed phrase or private and the answer is that it adds to everyone’s value according to Satoshi which is a very satisfying feeling.

One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out.

It's because like other assets, if Bitcoin holders only hold their bitcoins in their wallets, you never know that what's happened with these bitcoins like these coins were lost forever or just in holding mode. You only can have stronger reason to conclude that it is more likely lost bitcoin after like 50 years or longer when it passes through limit of human lifespan, but it is another assumption. Even that initial Bitcoin holder passed away, these bitcoins can still be inherited to other people like children, grandchildren and are still dormant.

We only can know that it is not Lost bitcoin when there is a Bitcoin transaction to move it on-chain.

You can not know how many bitcoins are actually lost based on this HODL waves.
https://www.bitcoinmagazinepro.com/charts/hodl-waves/

[Findingnemo]

There's no way to categorise that all the address that didn't happen to have any activity in years considered it as lost. As you said it could be a whale's long term storage.

But if we assume all those Bitcoins are lost too, still doesn't do any harm and actually it just helps the price of spendable Bitcoin value to go higher so we don't need to be focusing on the wallet activities, all we need to focus on how to acquire more Bitcoins as we can since the growth is unstoppable and it's going to be expensive day by day.

[Popkon6]

The accounts where the whales of the past deposited Bitcoins are currently active and the owner or Bitcoins have not been lost. Because they were inactive for a long time, their Bitcoins are now going to be active since they have achieved their target. Investors who targeted $100,000 and experienced investors are ready to take the benefits.
The accounts that were holding Bitcoins from 2011 to 2017 are basically selling their holdings at the moment because they have been able to achieve the benefits they want, but I think the keys or owners of all these inactive or hidden Bitcoin accounts are dead or lost. These accounts are not being recovered at the moment, but other active and inactive accounts are being revived.

[Apocollapse]

Why do actually investors need to know how much Bitcoin that likely to lost forever? investors are long term holder, they almost don't care with everything, especially like lost Bitcoin. They only care if the future isn't bright or something big happen that could make Bitcoin dead.

While big coins moved is more affect the traders.

[Publictalk792]

It shows that person who created Bitcoin means Satoshi had great idea. People who started using Bitcoin early on believed in it and helped it grow. Some people worry about Bitcoins that are lost because someone forgot their password or threw away their computer. But Satoshi said that these lost Bitcoins actually help make remaining Bitcoins more valuable.It is also important to know that just because someone has not used their Bitcoin in long time it does not mean it is lost forever. Mostly these people are just waiting for right time to use their Bitcoin. Today when Bitcoin reached $100000 many people who had not used their Bitcoin in long time started using it again.They moved their Bitcoin to safer places or sold some to make money. It just means they are waiting for right time to use it.

[ABCbits]

One thing I found out is some investors usually have this mindset that all dormant addresses are lost forever, which is not true but most of these dormant addresses are simply long term holders who have set a price target or year to move them out.

Not only investor, but it also applies to people who attempt to crack or brute-force "lost" wallet/address.

Why do actually investors need to know how much Bitcoin that likely to lost forever? investors are long term holder, they almost don't care with everything, especially like lost Bitcoin. They only care if the future isn't bright or something big happen that could make Bitcoin dead.

While big coins moved is more affect the traders.

In short, it's because they think less accessible Bitcoin equals less market supply where investor expect it'll make Bitcoin price rise more quickly.

[hd49728]

Why do actually investors need to know how much Bitcoin that likely to lost forever? investors are long term holder, they almost don't care with everything, especially like lost Bitcoin. They only care if the future isn't bright or something big happen that could make Bitcoin dead.

Because they want to be cooked by narratives and fud. They love these things and they chase for these things, and fortunately they are fed by these things from Market Makers.

Unfortunately, after being fed by these unhealthy things, they failed to control their mind, belief, and actions so they turned to panic sales and lost money.

While big coins moved is more affect the traders.

It affects all people in this market, traders are most vulnerable but investors are affected too. Especially newbie investors are sensitive with these things, but they're similar to traders, love to chase such news and will be beaten down by such 'unhealthy and unnecessary' news.

Experienced investors will be immuned against such news, because they know that news comes and goes, selling pressure appears and disappears, so they don't have to worry about it while Bitcoin adoption continues its growth, demands on Bitcoin becomes bigger with time, future supply is less because of future Bitcoin halvings. They comprehensively understand these fundamentals and are able to hold their bitcoins.