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December 09, 2024, 09:35:32 AM
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After examining the historical cycles of rise and fall, Turchin identified four factors that lead to the structural instability of a country or civilization:

The widespread economic deterioration that leads to mass unrest: When the overall economic situation deteriorates, causing widespread hardship, it often triggers mass movements and social unrest.

The expansion of the elite class, which can lead to internal conflicts: As the elite class grows, internal conflicts may emerge, weakening the unity and stability of the governing structures.

The worsening fiscal situation and the weakening of national legitimacy: A deteriorating fiscal condition, combined with a weakening sense of legitimacy in the government, erodes the foundation of a state's authority.

Geopolitical factors: External geopolitical pressures, such as conflicts, invasions, or international tensions, also contribute to the instability of a nation.

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December 10, 2024, 03:35:41 AM
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Got any links to support those theories?

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February 26, 2025, 11:11:02 PM
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Corruption gave birth to the economic crisis because the commonwealth of the nation is being diverted into personal gains this has become the reason why most countries that have witnessed one form of revolution or another be it economic or political revolution are all triggered by bad economic conditions of the citizens where the countries currency can no longer purchase the basic need items of the citizens and there is a high rate of inflation, hunger and starvation all this contribute and fuel any social unrest within the country.

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February 27, 2025, 09:52:34 AM
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when the gap between the Elites and the commoner is too wide and the commoners feels there is nothing worth living for, it results in disaster of different kind like war, civil unrest and anarchy. corruption stands as the root cause of war in many empires that have been brought down in the process of the war. even in nations that feels that her colonial master's or some tier A countries are responsible for her difficulty, if proper analysis is being carried out, it will reveal greatly that the major problem is an internally generated one that is as a result of the internal corruption that is happening within rather than without.

if internal political systems and structures are working perfectly, external geopolitical pressure can be easily suppressed such that it doesn't get flamed up into what is capable of bringing down an empire or a nation.

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February 28, 2025, 10:03:28 AM
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No group of elitists, government or empire holds power forever. There is always somebody or a group of people ready to challenge the status quo & eventually they or somebody else will succeed. We have seen this throughout history. I guess it’s a good lesson to all of us in life.
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February 28, 2025, 11:20:08 AM
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The worsening fiscal situation and the weakening of national legitimacy: A deteriorating fiscal condition, combined with a weakening sense of legitimacy in the government, erodes the foundation of a state's authority.


This is a natural phenomenon that a neighbouring empire might crave for expansion and the way they can achieve that is to conquer and take over the less powerful one.

Sometimes, the policies of government may not be favourable to some sections and that will lead to internal crisis and it might result in military coup to take over the overbearing leadership or government.

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February 28, 2025, 12:35:18 PM
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Corruption gave birth to the economic crisis because the commonwealth of the nation is being diverted into personal gains this has become the reason why most countries that have witnessed one form of revolution or another be it economic or political revolution are all triggered by bad economic conditions of the citizens where the countries currency can no longer purchase the basic need items of the citizens and there is a high rate of inflation, hunger and starvation all this contribute and fuel any social unrest within the country.
I completely agree with you, the elite are the ones who makes decision that affect the overall interest of the majority, they always want to have tha majority of the common wealth shared amongst them, then the leftovers should be shared amongst the populist, all of this decision will certainly make life difficult for the citizens and then they will push back and demand for their right, which will in turn cause crisis. Building a just society requires selfless leaders who don't see nation building as a means of enriching themselves, however a mass movement of the people speaking in one voice too needs to be awakened to keep the governing class in check, else they govern without rule of law.











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February 28, 2025, 06:14:11 PM
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Corruption gave birth to the economic crisis because the commonwealth of the nation is being diverted into personal gains this has become the reason why most countries that have witnessed one form of revolution or another be it economic or political revolution are all triggered by bad economic conditions of the citizens where the countries currency can no longer purchase the basic need items of the citizens and there is a high rate of inflation, hunger and starvation all this contribute and fuel any social unrest within the country.

This is the reason why most of the African francophone countries like Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger etc engaged in one form of revolution or the other was as a result of similarly related pertinent issues which boiled down to some root causes such as economic hardships, corruption and neo-colonialism. When you look at the triggers in those countries, one thing was common to all of them and it was the poverty line which was drawn to the bar.

Most of those countries were already improvished with lack of basic amenities, lack of access to education and lack of job opportunities due to government's inability to perform in its full capacity leading to frustrations by the youths and other pressure groups which then resulted to revolutions.

Corruption is another issue that mostly stems from the economic hardship because it is usually as a result mismanagement of public funds and unaccountability of public officials who violate work ethics and code of conducts, this then lead to the economic hardships and crops into public tensions.

What was very common with the countries I mentioned above was the modern slavery otherwise known as neo-colonialism practiced by the French colonies where their so called sovereignty states were systematically controlled by France and even their domestic currencies were bought by the government.

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February 28, 2025, 07:32:12 PM
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This is a natural phenomenon that a neighbouring empire might crave for expansion and the way they can achieve that is to conquer and take over the less powerful one.
For less powerful country to protect itself against any external aggression or evasion by a more powerful country with an expansionist intend it's best to go into alliance or join a bloc among powerful nations to guarantee your protection and creating a deterrence against any  expansionist.

Sometimes, the policies of government may not be favourable to some sections and that will lead to internal crisis and it might result in military coup to take over the overbearing leadership or government
In some cases it may not be about the government policies leading to internal crisis from some section. At time it could be that the incumbent government isn't collaborative or not in the interest of some foreign powers and so therefore they tend to secretly sponsor a particular sect to emerge serving as conflicting opposition causing security crisis to the government in power. Example is what we have in Burkina Faso and Niger.

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