Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

[moneystery]

maintaining long-term winning is harder in my opinion than just maintaining self-discipline. for example, if you place a bet and win at some time, you cannot be sure that you will continue to win on the next bet. as for self-discipline, even though it is something that can make you win, it is not something that can be a guarantee that you will win in the long term. even when you bet more than your bankroll at one time, at least it does not make you lose continuously in the long term, and you can return to betting according to your bankroll on the next bet.

[AVE5]

Lack of self control in gambling on regular basis is of no different from the addicted gamblers whose actions are thrilled by chasing profits or playing for fun while they looses their personalities and couldn't realize when they're on their right gambling budgets or not which outcomes doesn't let them feel like taking a break or just quit.
Winning is just being tempting and profitable which I don't think regular players on regular winnings would be sabotage or criticize by anyone of being addicted even though they find it difficult to leave or quit as once the winnings are usually coming it feels really good and wishes like it's unending.
So to me they're both difficult to take control on.

[Dewi Aries]

maintaining long-term winning is harder in my opinion than just maintaining self-discipline. for example, if you place a bet and win at some time, you cannot be sure that you will continue to win on the next bet. as for self-discipline, even though it is something that can make you win, it is not something that can be a guarantee that you will win in the long term. even when you bet more than your bankroll at one time, at least it does not make you lose continuously in the long term, and you can return to betting according to your bankroll on the next bet.

Of course, I mean I totally agree that maintaining long-term winning is much harder than maintaining self-discipline, the reason here is that we never know when we will be able to win because after all, winning in gambling is a result that can never be known at any time, while self-control is something that can be planned and done according to the wishes of a gambler, they only need discipline to be consistent in its application.
Honestly, I really feel strange about why there are people who compare maintaining winning in gambling with other things because after all, winning is something that can never be ascertained when it will come.

[Frankolala]

maintaining long-term winning is harder in my opinion than just maintaining self-discipline. for example, if you place a bet and win at some time, you cannot be sure that you will continue to win on the next bet. as for self-discipline, even though it is something that can make you win, it is not something that can be a guarantee that you will win in the long term. even when you bet more than your bankroll at one time, at least it does not make you lose continuously in the long term, and you can return to betting according to your bankroll on the next bet.

I think self control kills it all. If most gamblers could control themselves, we would not have addicts everywhere on the streets. We as gamblers know the theory of responsible gambling but we cannot put it into practice. Only few gamblers can control their gambling activities, and that's why you see that casinos are growing bigger everyday. It's impossible to be a long-term winner because luck comes by chance.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

For me, I could gladly say that it's easier to learn how to master self control, than learning how to mastering winning in gambling over long term, and the reason for this is as follows, because since "self control" is a physical  phenomenon, it is easy to adjust for a physical behavior, than gambling whose outcome is always as a result of random algorithms, whereby both luck and skill plays a major role in your ability to succeed in a long term, which is still not guarantee. Hence I will say Self Control is easier to master when compared to gambling success.

[mak013]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

I think that it is common problem. I have such problem mostly when i win. The thought are like "You are winning, you can lose some more money. Your bankroll increased, just increase the bet" and something else like it.
But i still have success in my struggle. And i added one more rule in my strategy. Bankroll and bet size recalculated the same time, once per week, on Monday.

[lovesmayfamilis]

For me, it is very simple. There are different times when I can afford to play for large sums. When I do not have extra financial support from some of my activities from which I occasionally earn, I will never allow myself to spend much. But there are other times when there is a profit, and why not spend more? There should always be a balance. If there is extra money, the loss of which will not be catastrophic, you can play. If there is no money, then you should not live in debt. In addition, in those moments when you manage to win a certain amount, then the game for this amount should never exceed the pre-planned limit.

[AGULIS]

To combat this, you probably need to focus on building positive habits.
I'm talking about self-discipline, which is the result of an ongoing process. Even if you occasionally deviate from your plan, each time you recognize it and correct it, you are reinforcing better habits for the future.
Success in gambling is not only about strategy, but also about maintaining the mindset to execute it despite short-term setbacks.

[kotajikikox]

In fact, a gambler who cannot control his gambling process will not achieve long term success. Because when he loses bets repeatedly, he will control himself and stop betting. Some gamblers quit gambling altogether after winning a few times, thereby falling short of achieving long-term success.

So you are saying that someone with no self control and gamble excessively would not achieve long term success because he will always lose but someone with too much control will also not achieve long term success because he would not achieve his maximum potential when it comes to gambling. That is a pretty tough line to stay in between in. To me as long as you have won and taken profit then that is enough of a success to me.

There's nothing wrong with trying to be disciplined so it's actually better to limit the amount of bets or allocations we pay so we don't go overboard.

I understand that being too scared to bet would not lead to any profit but also being too reckless would not give any profit hence why having a balance would be the ideal situation. Set a budget to not go overboard on and to keep you on track but gambling will always be risky and you can never do anything to make it completely safe so might as well just try to bet the most you can within your budget.

[Zigabel]

I think self control kills it all. If most gamblers could control themselves, we would not have addicts everywhere on the streets. We as gamblers know the theory of responsible gambling but we cannot put it into practice. Only few gamblers can control their gambling activities, and that's why you see that casinos are growing bigger everyday. It's impossible to be a long-term winner because luck comes by chance.

The possibility of winning in the long term is very much achievable but the challenge has always been with the patience and discipline to be able to handle all that comes with it, other gamblers mostly wants to win almost immediately accumulating a huge number of odds and so they don't have that patience of stacking up gradually and that keeping it at that pace for a week, month or month's long, they just want the huge pay out almost immediately and that has cost them to loose even more but they wouldn't want to be patient.

[ethereumhunter]

Self control will be hard to learn because besides or learning, we must practice that in many aspects so we can use that without a problem. We must remember that we can lose control in gambling without we notice so that can make us lose our money and slowly becomes addicted to gambling.

If we don't want to lose control, we must be careful playing gambling and always check our bet first before we press the button. But winning long term will also difficult because we will not easy to win instead just lose our money. It is better to have a good self control so we don't lose too much money in gambling and we can enjoy our time by playing gambling.

[rachael9385]

maintaining long-term winning is harder in my opinion than just maintaining self-discipline. for example, if you place a bet and win at some time, you cannot be sure that you will continue to win on the next bet. as for self-discipline, even though it is something that can make you win, it is not something that can be a guarantee that you will win in the long term. even when you bet more than your bankroll at one time, at least it does not make you lose continuously in the long term, and you can return to betting according to your bankroll on the next bet.

I think self control kills it all. If most gamblers could control themselves, we would not have addicts everywhere on the streets. We as gamblers know the theory of responsible gambling but we cannot put it into practice. Only few gamblers can control their gambling activities, and that's why you see that casinos are growing bigger everyday. It's impossible to be a long-term winner because luck comes by chance.

You are right. Like we all know that many gamblers find it very difficult to control themselves when it comes to gamble and it also makes them become an addicted gambler too. Self-control over gambling should be the number one priority a gamble should practice because without that, the person will probably be addicted to it overnight.
Actually, few gamblers knows that theory's of responsible gambling but the find it very very hard to over come it because they do not have self-control over their gambling habit.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Self control means being discipline and it not usually easy for most people to practice self control. I must say that am like you, who goes against my rules most of the time but that doesn't mean that I totally neglects it, I still don't gamble recklessly because I quickly realize myself and call back my minds in oder when am going wrong. In gambling, one can not define their rate of success but you can manage the amount of money that you will lose, therefore I think it's easy to learn self control.

[Ruttoshi]

I feel we don't need to compare something that is possible with something not possible. Why I said so is because, it's possible to have self control when you are gambling. It's something that you must develop and discipline yourself through practice.

On the one hand, to win for long is impossible because luck comes once in a while. If it happens that you are gambling when it's isn't your lucky day, you must lose, and that's what happens most times.

[dimonstration]

Do we have the same struggle?

Winning long term can’t be learned since it’s statistically almost impossible to achieve this on gambling due to the house edge even if you are playing sports betting with insane analysis skills. I included sports betting because casino can restrict/limit any user that consistently winning that makes you impossible to achieve long-term profit through skills.

On the other hand, Self control can be learned through years of gambling with same patter such as the frequency, bankroll, games and other factor that can be fixed with same pattern.

Self control can’t be learned instantly. It’s a gradual process until you can manage to do it.

[rahmad2nd]

Do we have the same struggle?

IMO, most of the problems with gamblers are maintaining their discipline especially related to self-control. I am sure we bettors/gamblers often experience situations like what you said, even though we have been equipped with various experiences also involving responsibility and self-control. but in practice we often get carried away by the atmosphere, whether it is the emotion of losing or being confident because we are in a profitable game. based on my experience, we are often influenced by various factors that have an impact on our gambling psychology. the facts vary, some are detrimental or vice versa. but in long-term winning mode I think it all depends on what we play or bet on. well, even though we have an agenda in our gambling, I mean with a strategy scenario in betting, we will never be able to always be consistent or even disciplined. technically we can learn it, but in practice it all depends on the situation and our emotional involvement during the betting session. so just enjoy it, but it is important to remember that we must have certain limits so that it does not have a very detrimental impact later.

[TelolettOm]

Gambling is exactly what shows the degree of our self-control and we cannot deceive ourselves in this. We must be honest with ourselves, and if we feel that we are betting more than required, we can continue to play even knowing this. Self-control is really a very difficult event. I still think that professionals have enough self-control, because if not them, then who will have it at all. And as you know, there are very few professionals compared to other players in the gambling industry, this reflects the real small percentage of those who have real self-control.

This is what often backfires. Although the standard and ideal is that a gambler must be able to have very good self-control skills, in reality, even if they are not addicted gamblers, they must still fight hard not to lose control. Because it is indeed difficult when it is needed in certain conditions, where our brain is quite down and our mentality is quite bad. So, our self-control will be quite difficult to manage.

But at least, we must continue to learn to manage self-control, especially to limit our gambling expenditure, which is usually quite difficult to control. And sometimes, this is done with quite a bit of coercion.

but it turns out that after reading this, the casino must have clever ways to keep gamblers stay and indulge in gambling.

Source: Anti-Gambling Educational Resource

[Jody.Drummer]

maintaining long-term winning is harder in my opinion than just maintaining self-discipline. for example, if you place a bet and win at some time, you cannot be sure that you will continue to win on the next bet. as for self-discipline, even though it is something that can make you win, it is not something that can be a guarantee that you will win in the long term. even when you bet more than your bankroll at one time, at least it does not make you lose continuously in the long term, and you can return to betting according to your bankroll on the next bet.

I think self control kills it all. If most gamblers could control themselves, we would not have addicts everywhere on the streets. We as gamblers know the theory of responsible gambling but we cannot put it into practice. Only few gamblers can control their gambling activities, and that's why you see that casinos are growing bigger everyday. It's impossible to be a long-term winner because luck comes by chance.

if many people who gamble can control themselves then there will be no cases of them losing a lot of money because of gambling, because we know that quite a lot of cases that occur are someone who experiences the destruction of his life because of being too excessive in gambling, it indicates the absence of self-control that is mastered well, also if comparing responsible gamblers and those who are not, there are definitely more irresponsible people than those who are responsible for their behavior towards gambling.
I agree with you, it is impossible to have a win that can be obtained in the long term because gambling relies on luck and luck will not always happen in every gamble that is done, if it were like that, maybe many people would choose not to work in the real world.

[eisen33]

if many people who gamble can control themselves then there will be no cases of them losing a lot of money because of gambling, because we know that quite a lot of cases that occur are someone who experiences the destruction of his life because of being too excessive in gambling, it indicates the absence of self-control that is mastered well, also if comparing responsible gamblers and those who are not, there are definitely more irresponsible people than those who are responsible for their behavior towards gambling.
I agree with you, it is impossible to have a win that can be obtained in the long term because gambling relies on luck and luck will not always happen in every gamble that is done, if it were like that, maybe many people would choose not to work in the real world.

Gambling can also be considered a job if you can make money from it, and it will be a very difficult job emotionally. In this case, both judgments from the title must be achieved, there must be self-control and profit in the long-term game, without self-control there will be no winnings, and without long-term success there will be no point in doing this on a permanent basis, otherwise it will simply lose its meaning and you will need to look for a job that can cover all our expenses.

[hahay]

I feel we don't need to compare something that is possible with something not possible. Why I said so is because, it's possible to have self control when you are gambling. It's something that you must develop and discipline yourself through practice.

On the one hand, to win for long is impossible because luck comes once in a while. If it happens that you are gambling when it's isn't your lucky day, you must lose, and that's what happens most times.

That's right, I can't think of how one can think of winning for the long term, because if gambling can be planned like that then it should be an easy way to make  money. Because anyway, the reality is not the case because to get a win for a short period of time is also a difficult mission to obtain. Therefore,   there are many who assume gambling is a game of luck and also, gambling is just for fun. That means, gambling is not an easy way  to make money, so to win for long term is a difficult target  or just a fantasy.