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January 14, 2025, 09:29:19 PM
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Sticking to the plan you have set for yourself is what makes you a disciplined gambler, staking above what you planned on using to gamble is simply a lack of self-control and this is actually fueled by greed. With all the mistakes I Ve learnt in gambling the one that I can never make again is staking higher than the amount I plan to use which is always very low, you might be tempted sometimes to go for a high reward, this would require you to stake high, but you must always ask yourself what if it goes sideways?  Self-control is needed in gambling.
Self-control is easier said than practiced; we easily say that we can control ourselves in terms of how many percent of our bankroll we will place on a single bet. From the beginning, we might be able to keep that up, but until we allow greed to take control over us, or just when we have experience with one winning, which we think will never also be a winning game, the thought to increase the wager amount comes in, which is the first step to starting to break your own rules. Anyone who is disciplined enough to keep to his own rules has a little advantage over the system.

 
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January 14, 2025, 09:37:39 PM
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But I don't think there is anything completely wrong with that.
It’s wrong when you don’t learn to control yourself. As gamblers, it’s normal for us to get emotional during games and sometimes even chase our losses, which often leads to negative outcomes. The real problem is if you keep making the same mistakes repeatedly, that means your long-term goal will never be achieved. So, it’s important to change your mindset and realize that losing self-control is not okay. Focus on staying disciplined to avoid falling into the same traps.

Yeah is for one to learn from his mistakes , and not having good self-control is one of the problem most gamblers are passing through, due to always wanting to win big they are now being reckless with their gambling activities. Just like you said is natural for we humans to make mistakes but not learning from those mistakes is wrong .

Because you may only endup keep making things worse and hard for ya . So is better to focus on building a good self-control, than focusing on big wins.

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January 14, 2025, 09:42:14 PM
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Sticking to the plan you have set for yourself is what makes you a disciplined gambler, staking above what you planned on using to gamble is simply a lack of self-control and this is actually fueled by greed. With all the mistakes I Ve learnt in gambling the one that I can never make again is staking higher than the amount I plan to use which is always very low, you might be tempted sometimes to go for a high reward, this would require you to stake high, but you must always ask yourself what if it goes sideways?  Self-control is needed in gambling.
Self-control is easier said than practiced; we easily say that we can control ourselves in terms of how many percent of our bankroll we will place on a single bet. From the beginning, we might be able to keep that up, but until we allow greed to take control over us, or just when we have experience with one winning, which we think will never also be a winning game, the thought to increase the wager amount comes in, which is the first step to starting to break your own rules. Anyone who is disciplined enough to keep to his own rules has a little advantage over the system.
It's true mate because when we haven't started gambling we can promise to keep of limits but immidiatly we have win a huge money that we do not expect as you said previously, we change our minds cause we are happy about the winning we do not expect. At first, if we can set limit for ourselves and control our emotions we will not have more losses than winning. Even though we do, it's the amount we can afford to lose.

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January 14, 2025, 11:31:14 PM
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But I don't think there is anything completely wrong with that.
It’s wrong when you don’t learn to control yourself. As gamblers, it’s normal for us to get emotional during games and sometimes even chase our losses, which often leads to negative outcomes. The real problem is if you keep making the same mistakes repeatedly, that means your long-term goal will never be achieved. So, it’s important to change your mindset and realize that losing self-control is not okay. Focus on staying disciplined to avoid falling into the same traps.

Yeah is for one to learn from his mistakes , and not having good self-control is one of the problem most gamblers are passing through, due to always wanting to win big they are now being reckless with their gambling activities. Just like you said is natural for we humans to make mistakes but not learning from those mistakes is wrong .

Because you may only endup keep making things worse and hard for ya . So is better to focus on building a good self-control, than focusing on big wins.
We have very little tendency to learn from mistakes and if we make a mistake once, we should think about why we made the mistake and whether there are any long-term effects of this mistake. But we don't do anything about this important matter later on. Moreover, if we talk about gambling, it is clear that we do not learn from our gambling mistakes because of our greed for income from gambling and the desire to win long.











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January 15, 2025, 06:52:09 AM
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Most gamblers see it as something so difficult to exercise self-control in gambling, i don't know the specific reason for that, but am thinking it has to do with a kind of personal thing, because some had a rough experience right from their first time in gambling, also to talk on long winning, i don't think this one is something we may often see like that as we thought of it happening, winning long term is not that easy to achieve except by luck and it often times happens when we least expect.
First of all you must have not emotions from the game. Feel yourself like a robot - make the same bet, don`t care win you or lose, bet next bet. And repeat it day by day. If you have a strategy, don`t fond of gambling - you can get stable profit, but it isn`t just "easy money".
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January 15, 2025, 07:04:26 AM
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This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?
Self-control is very important, there are many who cannot control themselves not only on gambling platforms but in any field. I always keep myself in self-control while gambling because I know that gambling is only for entertainment, not for making money. If I lose in gambling, I do not lose self-control and do not participate in gambling later because if I lose my self-control and participate in gambling, then the chances of losing in gambling will be the highest because then my brain will not have very good analysis. Moreover, I use a maximum of 1 to 5 percent of my income for gambling, beyond that I never use too much money, moreover, I participate in gambling once to twice a week and a maximum of three to four times a month. I am very good at gambling platforms and I am in my self-control.


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January 15, 2025, 07:29:01 AM
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Sticking to the plan you have set for yourself is what makes you a disciplined gambler, staking above what you planned on using to gamble is simply a lack of self-control and this is actually fueled by greed. With all the mistakes I Ve learnt in gambling the one that I can never make again is staking higher than the amount I plan to use which is always very low, you might be tempted sometimes to go for a high reward, this would require you to stake high, but you must always ask yourself what if it goes sideways?  Self-control is needed in gambling.
Self-control is easier said than practiced; we easily say that we can control ourselves in terms of how many percent of our bankroll we will place on a single bet. From the beginning, we might be able to keep that up, but until we allow greed to take control over us, or just when we have experience with one winning, which we think will never also be a winning game, the thought to increase the wager amount comes in, which is the first step to starting to break your own rules. Anyone who is disciplined enough to keep to his own rules has a little advantage over the system.
Not just greed, the hatred of losing can also be a factor and then there's a form of revenge wanting your money back in an instant after you lose a hefty amount.
This is where we are being tried if we can really control ourselves because there's always a choice of either depositing more or just walking out after a loss. We cannot say who is wiser between the two because there are those who came back and deposited again then somehow got their money back while there are others who are unlucky to make a comeback.
Those two quit after a loss could also be the wiser one because he might just really be having fun and once the money deposited is gone, he is out. I don't believe in winning long term, there will always be losses somehow. It's definitely harder.

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January 15, 2025, 07:41:24 AM
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Most gamblers see it as something so difficult to exercise self-control in gambling, i don't know the specific reason for that, but am thinking it has to do with a kind of personal thing, because some had a rough experience right from their first time in gambling, also to talk on long winning, i don't think this one is something we may often see like that as we thought of it happening, winning long term is not that easy to achieve except by luck and it often times happens when we least expect.
First of all you must have not emotions from the game. Feel yourself like a robot - make the same bet, don`t care win you or lose, bet next bet. And repeat it day by day. If you have a strategy, don`t fond of gambling - you can get stable profit, but it isn`t just "easy money".
Self-control in gambling is one of the factors that can prevent us from experiencing losses, but in this case indeed some of us are very difficult to control ourselves when we are in the game and that is also my personal experience, so far I have applied a limit on the amount of money I want to spend, but when I start to play the limit that I made the limit is destroyed and in the end I spend the balance I have,  I think in this case self-control in gambling games is more difficult to control than in betting, because indeed the fun factor that occurs in games such as poker and slots is more exciting than betting in  sports.

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January 15, 2025, 10:16:40 AM
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Most gamblers see it as something so difficult to exercise self-control in gambling, i don't know the specific reason for that, but am thinking it has to do with a kind of personal thing, because some had a rough experience right from their first time in gambling, also to talk on long winning, i don't think this one is something we may often see like that as we thought of it happening, winning long term is not that easy to achieve except by luck and it often times happens when we least expect.
First of all you must have not emotions from the game. Feel yourself like a robot - make the same bet, don`t care win you or lose, bet next bet. And repeat it day by day. If you have a strategy, don`t fond of gambling - you can get stable profit, but it isn`t just "easy money".
Self-control in gambling is one of the factors that can prevent us from experiencing losses, but in this case indeed some of us are very difficult to control ourselves when we are in the game and that is also my personal experience, so far I have applied a limit on the amount of money I want to spend, but when I start to play the limit that I made the limit is destroyed and in the end I spend the balance I have,  I think in this case self-control in gambling games is more difficult to control than in betting, because indeed the fun factor that occurs in games such as poker and slots is more exciting than betting in  sports.
No doubt that self control is one of many factors that can prevent us from the loss. But many gamblers still lose their control when playing gambling and makes them get more losses because their losses will affect to their emotion. They can not handle their emotion better and trying to recover their loss while they know that will not easy to get it. But they still insist to keep trying to recover by playing gambling longer than usual so that can only makes them loss more money. Self control is difficult to learn but that doesn't mean we can give up like that because without having a strong self control, we may face a big loss that we never imagine before.
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January 15, 2025, 10:36:51 AM
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Well, many things can't be done too easily when it comes to gambling. Even many people will say it's going to happen in just a few days, but quite frankly speaking, it takes months or even years.

Why is that happening? We are too emotional and a lot of temptation, that is the truth. In fact, despite having long gambling experience, I can't still say that I was able to manage myself all the time. Sometimes I lose emotions and overspend. But I'd never blame myself because I understand what I'm doing, and I am aware this could possibly happen no matter what. 
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No doubt that self control is one of many factors that can prevent us from the loss. But many gamblers still lose their control when playing gambling and makes them get more losses because their losses will affect to their emotion. They can not handle their emotion better and trying to recover their loss while they know that will not easy to get it. But they still insist to keep trying to recover by playing gambling longer than usual so that can only makes them loss more money. Self control is difficult to learn but that doesn't mean we can give up like that because without having a strong self control, we may face a big loss that we never imagine before.

Self-control is not a character trait but a developed habit that requires regularity. If you can't follow the rules you want to adhere to, try writing them down and treat them as instructions with clear points that cannot be violated, this can help. If this also does not work, then the person is not capable of self-control and will make the same mistake every time, which will exclude the possibility of earning money in gambling, and in this case, you should not count on any profit.

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January 15, 2025, 12:09:23 PM
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Self-control is easier said than practiced; we easily say that we can control ourselves in terms of how many percent of our bankroll we will place on a single bet. From the beginning, we might be able to keep that up, but until we allow greed to take control over us, or just when we have experience with one winning, which we think will never also be a winning game, the thought to increase the wager amount comes in, which is the first step to starting to break your own rules. Anyone who is disciplined enough to keep to his own rules has a little advantage over the system.
Selfcontrol in gambling for me depends on my mood. Sometimes I am more ambitious to spend all the winnings in the hope of finding a more satisfying sensation, even when I do not have the burden of buying some desired items. But on the other hand I withdraw my winnings faster if I have some needs that must be met without disturbing the main budget.

 
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We have very little tendency to learn from mistakes and if we make a mistake once, we should think about why we made the mistake and whether there are any long-term effects of this mistake. But we don't do anything about this important matter later on. Moreover, if we talk about gambling, it is clear that we do not learn from our gambling mistakes because of our greed for income from gambling and the desire to win long.

When it comes to gambling the truth is that people will never learn from there mistake and this why the addicted once always need extra hand to be able to quite because they always feel they have all the time they can get out of it, I notice one common thing when it come to mistakes we keep making the same mistakes over and over again but truly if you want to look at those mistakes you won't even worry your self to much because from the beginning you already know that gambling is risky, but people still win from it just that the way you manage your gambling life style matters a lot.

Self control is harde because when you continue to win constantly there is good possibility that when the winning stops then your habit of sticking to your hold habit by trying by all means to win, and that is were the issue of addiction starts coming in and all started from failed to control emotions ot is clear accept anything even if you don't win, you get matured in gambling if not you continue to struggle, and been in its bondage and when you understand gambling you then don't have issues with emotional control.











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January 15, 2025, 02:58:03 PM
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Sticking to the plan you have set for yourself is what makes you a disciplined gambler, staking above what you planned on using to gamble is simply a lack of self-control and this is actually fueled by greed. With all the mistakes I Ve learnt in gambling the one that I can never make again is staking higher than the amount I plan to use which is always very low, you might be tempted sometimes to go for a high reward, this would require you to stake high, but you must always ask yourself what if it goes sideways?  Self-control is needed in gambling.
Self-control is easier said than practiced; we easily say that we can control ourselves in terms of how many percent of our bankroll we will place on a single bet. From the beginning, we might be able to keep that up, but until we allow greed to take control over us, or just when we have experience with one winning, which we think will never also be a winning game, the thought to increase the wager amount comes in, which is the first step to starting to break your own rules. Anyone who is disciplined enough to keep to his own rules has a little advantage over the system.
Self control goes beyond increasing the amount of money that you want to bet with. Some people don't have money to gamble but because they think that they have a sure game, they use money for important things to gamble and when they lose the bet, they will be disappointed. Most at times is because of profits that makes us have less control over our gambling activities.

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January 15, 2025, 03:11:11 PM
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Sticking to the plan you have set for yourself is what makes you a disciplined gambler, staking above what you planned on using to gamble is simply a lack of self-control and this is actually fueled by greed. With all the mistakes I Ve learnt in gambling the one that I can never make again is staking higher than the amount I plan to use which is always very low, you might be tempted sometimes to go for a high reward, this would require you to stake high, but you must always ask yourself what if it goes sideways?  Self-control is needed in gambling.
Self-control is easier said than practiced; we easily say that we can control ourselves in terms of how many percent of our bankroll we will place on a single bet. From the beginning, we might be able to keep that up, but until we allow greed to take control over us, or just when we have experience with one winning, which we think will never also be a winning game, the thought to increase the wager amount comes in, which is the first step to starting to break your own rules. Anyone who is disciplined enough to keep to his own rules has a little advantage over the system.
Self control goes beyond increasing the amount of money that you want to bet with. Some people don't have money to gamble but because they think that they have a sure game, they use money for important things to gamble and when they lose the bet, they will be disappointed. Most at times is because of profits that makes us have less control over our gambling activities.
Of course, you can learn to earn money, this can even happen to those who have been able to control themselves for a long time and earned quite a lot, but then they had a terrible day and decided to try to play for a larger amount. I want to say that self-control is very important for any player, no matter how well they play and how much they earn through the game. Losing self-control can destroy everything to the ground and whether a player who earns money will find the strength to get up again and go through this path is a big question. Here it may not help him if he loses the ability to control himself.

 
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January 16, 2025, 02:59:46 AM
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Self-control is not a character trait but a developed habit that requires regularity. If you can't follow the rules you want to adhere to, try writing them down and treat them as instructions with clear points that cannot be violated, this can help. If this also does not work, then the person is not capable of self-control and will make the same mistake every time, which will exclude the possibility of earning money in gambling, and in this case, you should not count on any profit.
Only by learn, we will have a strong self control and will not tempt from the promotion easily because we know that is too risk for us. Writing the rules that you want to follow if good but that will need discipline while we know discipline is not easy for us to follow. But learning to have a strong self control will be necessary for us because that can help us stay away from the problem. While winning for long term will not be easy as in gambling, we will not know when we can win. So it is better we keep learning self control because that will help ourselves and be better in the future.
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I think both are quite difficult, but what is more difficult is getting consistent wins in the long term, actually it is not impossible but it is unlikely because after all the casino is always superior to the gamblers, and actually there is a difference in terms of self-control and getting wins in the long term, self-control can still be learned and trained but getting wins can never be trained because after all we never know about what the right way is that can guarantee victory comes, and even if it could then it would no longer be called gambling.

This means that in my opinion it does not make sense if you want to learn how to always be able to produce wins in the long term, and also that means you can only learn self-control although yes I understand that it is not easy.
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Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.
Self-control is certainly important for achieving long-term success. It is impossible to predict when a gambler will win or lose. But if a gambler can be patient in gambling and is able to survive in gambling for a long time, then he can definitely expect something good from gambling, which we can consider as success. Gamblers who are not able to manage controlled gambling will never be successful in gambling. Gambling is not difficult, but it is much more difficult to manage long-term controlled gambling. Self-control not only brings a gambler victory but also helps him in taking appropriate decisions. That is why self-control is of the utmost importance for long-term success in gambling.











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Most gamblers see it as something so difficult to exercise self-control in gambling, i don't know the specific reason for that, but am thinking it has to do with a kind of personal thing, because some had a rough experience right from their first time in gambling, also to talk on long winning, i don't think this one is something we may often see like that as we thought of it happening, winning long term is not that easy to achieve except by luck and it often times happens when we least expect.
First of all you must have not emotions from the game. Feel yourself like a robot - make the same bet, don`t care win you or lose, bet next bet. And repeat it day by day. If you have a strategy, don`t fond of gambling - you can get stable profit, but it isn`t just "easy money".
Self-control in gambling is one of the factors that can prevent us from experiencing losses, but in this case indeed some of us are very difficult to control ourselves when we are in the game and that is also my personal experience, so far I have applied a limit on the amount of money I want to spend, but when I start to play the limit that I made the limit is destroyed and in the end I spend the balance I have,  I think in this case self-control in gambling games is more difficult to control than in betting, because indeed the fun factor that occurs in games such as poker and slots is more exciting than betting in  sports.
I don`t interest in casino games - they don`t give me an opportunity to change the result, it is impossible to predict something(except losing, lol). Only poker and sport betting give us an opportunity to predict result, without guarantee, but we can increase win chances. I can`t compare difficulty of control in such games, but i can say, that even in such calm kinds of gambling i want to increase bet sometimes, or to make an additional bet. But i stop myself every time. We must remove emotions from the game if we want to get profit.
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January 16, 2025, 06:24:03 AM
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This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?
Preach! Self-control is indeed the ultimate challenge for gamblers. I've been there too, with a solid strategy and bankroll management plan in place, only to succumb to impulsive decisions.

It's frustrating when we know what we should be doing, but our emotions get the better of us. For me, it's about recognizing those triggers and taking a step back to reassess.

I've found that setting realistic goals, tracking my progress, and having a support system in place helps me stay on track. But it's an ongoing battle, and I'm constantly reminding myself to stay disciplined.

Thanks for sharing your struggles – it's reassuring to know I'm not alone in this!

Self-control isn't something that comes naturally to everyone, but it's definitely a skill that can be developed over time with effort.
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