The banning or regularization of casinos by govs has not resulted in anything

[sompitonov]

Most people are unwilling to pay taxes, mistakenly believing that their money is not being spent on what they themselves would like. However, it should be understood that by betting on an unregulated casino via VPN, they deprive themselves of the opportunity to be protected by their government in case encounters fraud.

I might also have the same feelings because the government of my country are professional in corruption. Most of the taxes collected are not used for the benefit of the people but the majority of them go to private pockets. But we have to pay taxes because it is our moral responsibility. Regarding protection from the government, one cannot eat his cake and have it. If you have decided to invade tax, you should be willing to forgo the benefits that the government offers.

Of course, many people think that this is the case with gambling, but I think that this does not happen everywhere and not in all countries. Although it is obvious that some casino owners can offer good money for lobbying interests, or when deciding on construction on a specific land, when other competitors are laying claim to it. However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

[btc78]

If you have decided to invade tax, you should be willing to forgo the benefits that the government offers.

i mean yes i kinda understand the logic behind this corrupt government or not taxes is from the pockets of the citizens so it is only right for them to benefit from them no one else should benefit from the money aside from the payers themselves not those who do not pay most especially not the politicians

However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

i am pretty sure a lot of casinos are already evading taxes it is very common for casinos to money launder it is either the taxes are too high or they just really do not want to pay at all

[Huppercase]

Of course, many people think that this is the case with gambling, but I think that this does not happen everywhere and not in all countries. Although it is obvious that some casino owners can offer good money for lobbying interests, or when deciding on construction on a specific land, when other competitors are laying claim to it. However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

I don't know how other countries operate but in my country, they dare not try to ban gambling, there is going to be a problem because in my country, what people depend on as a source of living is gambling, it's working but that's what they used to feed, thats where some people has used to set up there business and other husle that get to them money, gambling is also one of the biggest place to the government makes their tax collection from, so it's not a possible move from my side.

The places where gambling is ban are just too strict or perhaps they are trying to make people live a decent life or it's also possible that gambling effects are been consider and it shows them how dangerous it's to their citizens and hence the ban. I don't see why a country is going to ban casino that people will freely do with their own money, something the casino don't have control over. It's a freedom to risk and that's why some people are playing despite the losses.

[tvplus006]

i am pretty sure a lot of casinos are already evading taxes it is very common for casinos to money launder it is either the taxes are too high or they just really do not want to pay at all

As a rule, all unregulated casinos do not pay taxes because they do not have a license. Either they are registered in offshore zones such as Curaçao and Malta, where these taxes are minimal or non-existent.

[batang_bitcoin]

I think that they understand it and how the internet works but, they just can't force these casinos and citizens to kneel over them and obey what they say. They're also aware of how things go on around with decentralization and they're giving people the freedom to do what they want. As for these casinos, I think it's a good idea that it's been mentioned that there should be a global cooperation or an organization where they meet in the midst of it making some standards and policies for the betterment not just of their business and industry but also to give benefits to the countries where they operate.

[Forsyth Jones]

If you have decided to invade tax, you should be willing to forgo the benefits that the government offers.

i mean yes i kinda understand the logic behind this corrupt government or not taxes is from the pockets of the citizens so it is only right for them to benefit from them no one else should benefit from the money aside from the payers themselves not those who do not pay most especially not the politicians

However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

i am pretty sure a lot of casinos are already evading taxes it is very common for casinos to money launder it is either the taxes are too high or they just really do not want to pay at all

I can't say for sure whether many casinos evade taxes, but it's true that companies in huezil (non-ironically brazil) don't pay taxes. They pass the costs on to consumers, and in the end, the tax is always paid by the lowest class in the pyramid, that is, the poorest class.

This is true for all countries, but in countries where there is no incentive to evade taxes, such as some Nordic countries, the incentive to evade taxes is lower... If you're from a Nordic country or any country where taxes aren't abusive, you can confirm this for me...

[Ziskinberg]

As a rule, all unregulated casinos do not pay taxes because they do not have a license. Either they are registered in offshore zones such as Curaçao and Malta, where these taxes are minimal or non-existent.

That’s why most casinos get their licenses in the countries you mentioned because of loose regulations and minimal user protection. This gives casinos a big advantage in disputes since users can’t expect much help from the licensing authorities or regulators.

However, I think this will change soon as there’s now a global standard for combating money laundering, and even these offshore casinos will have to comply. If they don’t, they risk being sanctioned by major countries like the U.S. for failing to implement standard rules.

For now, some casinos can still operate freely, but things will eventually get tougher which is actually good for us gamblers since we’ll have better protection. The downside? We might lose our privacy, as stricter KYC requirements will likely be enforced.

[TelolettOm]

Gambling problems are indeed not easy to solve easily, even by the government. In fact, in the country, gambling is clearly prohibited, it is illegal. But in reality? Gambling activities still exist, even though they steal places, or if it's an offline casino, they have to give a deposit to a certain party so that their business is safe.

Moreover, online gambling can now be accessed easily. The government has tried to provide clear regulations on gambling, fines, and sanctions. However, that does not stop gambling players or online gambling site owners. In fact, it is getting busier and more and more sites like that are popping up. Yes, because they make big profits, because more and more people are entering this online gambling. While the government's efforts to block various online gambling sites are not easy, for example, if 1 is blocked, a thousand more will appear.

[Weawant]

I think if there seems to exist any form of regulation from the government on some of these private online  companies a lot of unchecked exploitation would have been the order of the day and a lot of us would have clamoured for a regulatory involvement of government even to the online casinos as it is right now. The regulations though strikes  some considerable form of balance which we can say it's also to the advantage of the gamblers just as it in other ways appears to be disadvantageous from the few cited areas in the OP.

There are regulatory measures for online casinos but then this doesn't really apply to many countries, only in some few who has tried regulating it, and for some the regulations do work meanwhile for the others it's literally different as they may not be functional enough and the casinos gets to by pass them. But like you have said the regulations at some point becomes really important to the gamblers and even the casino at some point.

[Lida93]

I think if there seems to exist any form of regulation from the government on some of these private online  companies a lot of unchecked exploitation would have been the order of the day and a lot of us would have clamoured for a regulatory involvement of government even to the online casinos as it is right now. The regulations though strikes  some considerable form of balance which we can say it's also to the advantage of the gamblers just as it in other ways appears to be disadvantageous from the few cited areas in the OP.

There are regulatory measures for online casinos but then this doesn't really apply to many countries, only in some few who has tried regulating it, and for some the regulations do work meanwhile for the others it's literally different as they may not be functional enough and the casinos gets to by pass them. But like you have said the regulations at some point becomes really important to the gamblers and even the casino at some point.

What I do perceive about the difference in regulatory measures from one country to another is a subject of how much or less these countries depend on the profits gained through loyalties and taxes from these casinos.

Those countries that takes the regulatory measures very seriously are probably the ones that puts their citizens before the profits they make through these casinos by ensuring that sanctions are strictly meted on those casinos that try to exploit the customers.

 It's rather the government of those countries that heavily depends on the taxes raised from these casinos under their jurisdictions that are less functional in terms of applying strict regulatory measures so they don't lose the huge  funds coming in from that industry. This is just my perspective tho.

[danherbias07]

i am pretty sure a lot of casinos are already evading taxes it is very common for casinos to money launder it is either the taxes are too high or they just really do not want to pay at all

As a rule, all unregulated casinos do not pay taxes because they do not have a license. Either they are registered in offshore zones such as Curaçao and Malta, where these taxes are minimal or non-existent.

What @tvplus006 said was the ongoing problem of many countries. A lot of online casinos coming out that are not licensed or regulated and all they do is take the money of the people and get out without a single scratch of the money they made. No tax at all.
It doesn't really hurt them, they just want freedom in what they do and perhaps most of them are doing some fishy business which is why they don't want any country regulating them. Obviously, they will take a peek at their system and algorithm first and dig some information before they give them a license and new online casinos don't want that.
What they will do is recreate another name but with the same settings once the other one is captured or banned.

[LUCKMCFLY]

However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

To be honest, I do not agree that playing in a casino means paying a tax to the government, why? All people anywhere in the world have the right to have fun as they want as long as they do not harm others, and the one who should pay the corresponding taxes for this should be the casino, there will come a time when the government or governments of the world will want to charge for the air that is breathed because they believe that it is a luxury for people, that is why in this case I applaud the total irreverence.

[Hispo]

However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

To be honest, I do not agree that playing in a casino means paying a tax to the government, why? All people anywhere in the world have the right to have fun as they want as long as they do not harm others, and the one who should pay the corresponding taxes for this should be the casino, there will come a time when the government or governments of the world will want to charge for the air that is breathed because they believe that it is a luxury for people, that is why in this case I applaud the total irreverence.

Ironically, gambling can be rather a synonym of poverty within a community than a sign of luxury and excess of wealth, gambling is one of those industries which do not discriminate and see whether clients/gamblers are rich or poor. Actually, in Venezuela there have been several examples on how gambling is a sign of people going through bad economical times, it was back during the worst phase of inflation here when the "Animalitos" Roulette started to spread widely in this country, I recall it very vividly because those small gambling kiosks appeared all around my home town.

It would be quite short-sighted of governments to assume all gamblers are risking money they can afford to lose, many of them see gambling as a mean of survival in desperate times, so taxing gamblers for money they got in a context of extremely high risk is quite unfair. It is the main reason I tend to applaud countries which allow gamblers to keep 100% of their earning, as it is the case of Australia.

[Ever-young]

To be honest, I do not agree that playing in a casino means paying a tax to the government, why? All people anywhere in the world have the right to have fun as they want as long as they do not harm others, and the one who should pay the corresponding taxes for this should be the casino, there will come a time when the government or governments of the world will want to charge for the air that is breathed because they believe that it is a luxury for people, that is why in this case I applaud the total irreverence.

The casinos are to be in the right place to pay tax to government and not the players, the casino are the ones benefiting from the money which the people who play for fun is spending in the casino so their won’t be any offense for them to spend little amount of that money to settle up tax, the only place the government can come in for tax is on profit tax which they can also consider gambling winnings as profit which is added to the money which the gambler use in playing the game and the government will want their own share from that profit which looking at it from another angle they shouldn’t even be doing that but then again the government want to benefit from everywhere that their citizen benefit from.

[freedomgo]

The casinos are to be in the right place to pay tax to government and not the players, the casino are the ones benefiting from the money which the people who play for fun is spending in the casino so their won’t be any offense for them to spend little amount of that money to settle up tax,..

This is what we prefer as gambler, but in some countries there are laws requiring gamblers to pay taxes on their winnings. So it seems like the government could take whatever they want through taxes even though gamblers aren’t really winners in the long run,  but since it's the law, there’s not much we can do, unless we’re willing to face the consequences if we get caught.

Also, it all depends on how effectively the government can enforce its laws. If they can’t implement them properly, casinos will likely continue operating without a license as long as they’re still getting players.

[Btcdeybodi]

To be honest, I do not agree that playing in a casino means paying a tax to the government, why? All people anywhere in the world have the right to have fun as they want as long as they do not harm others, and the one who should pay the corresponding taxes for this should be the casino

If a government decides to charge gamblers to pay taxes then they should also be able to make some refunds to them when they gamble and lose let us now see between them and gamblers who will be at the losing end because if they calculate the amount gamblers losing on a daily basis and for them to pay gamblers according to the percentage of losses they have incurred. If a government charge taxes on those operating casinos it is reasonable instead of taxing those who are playing in a casino, if am even in such country we will just hold a meeting among gamblers that no one should gamble then let us see how they will get the tax they are asking them to pay.

[EluguHcman]

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this).

Let us not still understand estimate the power of the governments because they have conditional regulatory power in the system that they can shut down the internet.
They would not just do so because they also need it for interceptions and communal services.

Check it this way... If every other countries governments steps forward that casinos in their respective places will be regulated with the taxation policies including foreigners using their local casinos sites will be effected on the taxes on the casinos, I don't think if the Brazilians would heartedly make it a success in using the VPN of other regional locations to visit their own local casinos as a course of trying to boycott payment of taxes.

But in anyway, the governments can kot successfully take all sets of regulatory compliances upon the whole world as the internet too do have decentralized leakages which technically can be privatized for accessibility. It is all about technologies.

[Ziskinberg]

If a government decides to charge gamblers to pay taxes then they should also be able to make some refunds to them when they gamble and lose ...

We're just dreaming if we think that will happen because in reality, the law requiring gamblers to pay taxes on their winnings usually has a threshold, meaning you only have to pay taxes if your winnings exceed a certain amount. It’s meant for big wins, so if you’re just betting small and winning small  you’re not required to pay taxes.

And honestly, even if that law exists, if the government isn’t strictly enforcing it, many gamblers can still get away with it and enjoy their winnings tax-free.

[macson]

When the government thinks that the rules they make are able to reduce people from getting involved in gambling, but with the existence of technology as small as VPN it is able to overcome the firewall block that they put on gambling websites, it makes the rules they make useless. because now people are smarter, even though their government puts a firewall to prevent them from accessing the site, these gamblers can use VPN on their devices, and that can solve all the problems. That makes this rule achieve nothing and the government is just wasting their energy.

[abhiseshakana]

Let us not still understand estimate the power of the governments because they have conditional regulatory power in the system that they can shut down the internet.
They would not just do so because they also need it for interceptions and communal services.

Check it this way... If every other countries governments steps forward that casinos in their respective places will be regulated with the taxation policies including foreigners using their local casinos sites will be effected on the taxes on the casinos, I don't think if the Brazilians would heartedly make it a success in using the VPN of other regional locations to visit their own local casinos as a course of trying to boycott payment of taxes.

But in anyway, the governments can kot successfully take all sets of regulatory compliances upon the whole world as the internet too do have decentralized leakages which technically can be privatized for accessibility. It is all about technologies.

China has begun to take control or become the head of international gambling with the aim of increasing state revenue. In addition, ethnic Chinese are a single segment of the Asian gambling market, their fondness for gambling is well known. The Chinese government does not want money circulating in other countries. even in early 2024, the Chinese government banned its citizens from gambling abroad. Even cross-border gambling is a violation of the law. This shows how serious China is about the potential profits of the gambling business.

Actually, it is very easy for a country's government to stop online gambling. Only the problem is like what happened in Indonesia. There are several staff members of the Ministry of Telecommunications and Information who received bribes from bookies to turn a blind eye when they found out. Where there is profit there is a way, especially in developing countries where the level of corruption, collusion and nepotism is still very high.