As of now Joe Biden has btc ath under his belt when will trump take it from him?

[bbc.reporter]

@EFS. We can be very much certain that bitcoin and much of the cryptocoins and tokens in the cryptospace will very much pump to all time high. The Trump pump began when the Donald promised to have a procrypto administration and we witnessed that he is keeping his promise. The Trump pump has occurred again after he was declared victorious on the election on November. There will certainly be more Trump pumps.

Also, it would be very headshaking to compare bitcoin's performance under the Biden administration and imply Biden was a better president for bitcoin. I reckon we should move on from this because if we cannot, a better comparison between Biden and Trump on bitcoin's performance would be Trump's first term and Biden's term.

[philipma1957]

I hope we can see a new ATH this year but the momentum seems to have completely faded. Trump's return to power after the elections was expected and this is a very bad situation for both the US and the world. Unfortunately the world's biggest country is being run by incompetent people. In such an insecure environment, no investment instrument feels safe. Those who thought Trump's election and his appointment of Musk would be good for Bitcoin have been proven wrong so far. I still find it safer to stay in Bitcoin rather than national currencies, but I don't see a high probability of experiencing a crazy bull market again.

yeah a massive influx to gold and silver over 300 billion from BTC + eth into silver and gold markets.

Not sure trump will ever right the ship.

Still stacking as best as I can.

@EFS. We can be very much certain that bitcoin and much of the cryptocoins and tokens in the cryptospace will very much pump to all time high. The Trump pump began when the Donald promised to have a procrypto administration and we witnessed that he is keeping his promise. The Trump pump has occurred again after he was declared victorious on the election on November. There will certainly be more Trump pumps.

Also, it would be very headshaking to compare bitcoin's performance under the Biden administration and imply Biden was a better president for bitcoin. I reckon we should move on from this because if we cannot, a better comparison between Biden and Trump on bitcoin's performance would be Trump's first term and Biden's term.

well so far trump and Biden both killed off bull runs.

2018 laws passed by trump ended all like kind tax free trades for crypto and stocks. dealing a crushing blow to crypto in 2018 Jan.

My tax returns are over 200 to 300 pages long in year where I make under 20k profit and 300 to 400 pages long when I make over 40k profit. all on trump in 2018

and yes Biden did a pump and dump in 2021 and then 2022


they both seem like more of the same.

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[franky1]

well so far trump and Biden both killed off bull runs.

2018 laws passed by trump ended all like kind tax free trades for crypto and stocks. dealing a crushing blow to crypto in 2018 Jan.

My tax returns are over 200 to 300 pages long in year where I make under 20k profit and 300 to 400 pages long when I make over 40k profit. all on trump in 2018

and yes Biden did a pump and dump in 2021 and then 2022

they both seem like more of the same.

you really think bitcoin economics just follows the whitehouses twitter feed... you just lost 100 respect points
the bitcoin events of the 2018 correction from the 2017ATH ,, and the 2021 ATH was not related to politics
its time you learn about bitcoin again

[hero_the_bossman]

you really think bitcoin economics just follows the whitehouses twitter feed... you just lost 100 respect points
the bitcoin events of the 2018 correction from the 2017ATH ,, and the 2021 ATH was not related to politics
its time you learn about bitcoin again

It is all intertwined and works in combinations, in my opinion.

We can't deny any factors that affect the situation and the sentiment.

[philipma1957]

Franky1 it's just math.

If I recall you live in UK not USA.

Trump's like kind bill really put a nail into the 2017 dec peak once that bill came out in Jan 2018. Coinbase had a huge drop in trading. AS EVERY SINGLE TRADE YOU DO BECAME REPORTABLE.

2018 we slumped steady from. JAN TO DEC. It is a direct corelation  was it the only reason we crashed no it was a reason.

In 2022 sbf robbed billions and crashed out a slumping market. Was it the only reason we crashed no lots of other reasons but sbf had a direct link to the dem party which had a direct link to Biden.

So I certainly would argue Biden aided the 2022 crash just like I argue Trump aided the 2018 crash.

THREADS LIKE THIS ARE A BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK. I find it amazing that the inability to read a chart and a clock has at least two or three people
 
On this thread actually think Biden is not the king of the ATH for btc.

And Biden has a second kingdom he is the King of ETH ATH.

I AM SURPRISED at you frank1y as I like  the way you think.

Joe Biden is still the King of the two highest market cap coins both BTC and ETH.


Do I really think Trump or Biden are good for crypto nope they only care about themselves.

Which is worse don't care to judge them that way.

I only worry about the musky trumpeter  as he is in charge now as over 300 billion left btc and eth since he got in.  WHERE did it go gold and silver.

SO the musky trumpeter  seems old school and helps metals so far.

[cryptosize]

I only believe in halvings.

Everything else is just noise...

[franky1]

philipma1957.. let me tell you this, without knowing who the next US president is, nor what bills/EO's they will sign

in 2028 will see the next halving which will price in a 2x of its preceding price 6 months before halving
then ~1.5yr after halving(2029) would be that cycles ATH, followed by a ~2yr bear season of correcting back to that cycles new value bottom discovery.. to then start to prep for the next cycle.

[Ambatman]

Well Trump is lucky in been elected during this Period.
Biden ATH isn't as impressive as Breaking the $100K mark.
The only thing is if we seeing a New ATH after a bigger correction or we going from here.
Personally would prefer a correction
To reduce the likelihood of we ever going that low when we start breaking ATHs again.


Just give it sometime. People will loss interest on what Trump can do and focus on what Bitcoin can do.

philipma1957.. let me tell you this, without knowing who the next US president is, nor what bills/EO's they will sign

in 2028 will see the next halving which will price in a 2x of its preceding price 6 months before halving
then ~1.5yr after halving(2029) would be that cycles ATH, followed by a ~2yr bear season of correcting back to that cycles new value bottom discovery.. to then start to prep for the next cycle.

Any president as long as they don't outright start making transacting with Bitcoin illegal
We are going to see ATH after halvings.


@4999 was too tempting not to turn to 5000.

[franky1]

philipma1957.. let me tell you this, without knowing who the next US president is, nor what bills/EO's they will sign

in 2028 will see the next halving which will price in a 2x of its preceding price 6 months before halving
then ~1.5yr after halving(2029) would be that cycles ATH, followed by a ~2yr bear season of correcting back to that cycles new value bottom discovery.. to then start to prep for the next cycle.

Any president as long as they don't outright start making transacting with Bitcoin illegal
We are going to see ATH after halvings.

@4999 was too tempting not to turn to 5000.

the halving and ATH has nothing to do with us politics, never has, never will.. its part of bitcoins underlying economics of mining.
and cheers for the merit. i like round numbers.. shame i had waste my 30,000th post to tell philipma the obvious. i could have used it to make a more iconic message

[Ambatman]

To be sincere what are we even waiting for?
I sure damn know that many are already losing interest in the BSR happening anytime soon.
It's like institutions are holding the price to accumulate cheaper
Because looking since inauguration
We have been hovering from $90K -$109K.
Bitcoin should do something beyond this point.

[Call_Me_Guru]

@EFS. We can be very much certain that bitcoin and much of the cryptocoins and tokens in the cryptospace will very much pump to all time high. The Trump pump began when the Donald promised to have a procrypto administration and we witnessed that he is keeping his promise. The Trump pump has occurred again after he was declared victorious on the election on November. There will certainly be more Trump pumps.

Also, it would be very headshaking to compare bitcoin's performance under the Biden administration and imply Biden was a better president for bitcoin. I reckon we should move on from this because if we cannot, a better comparison between Biden and Trump on bitcoin's performance would be Trump's first term and Biden's term.

well so far trump and Biden both killed off bull runs.

2018 laws passed by trump ended all like kind tax free trades for crypto and stocks. dealing a crushing blow to crypto in 2018 Jan.

My tax returns are over 200 to 300 pages long in year where I make under 20k profit and 300 to 400 pages long when I make over 40k profit. all on trump in 2018

and yes Biden did a pump and dump in 2021 and then 2022


they both seem like more of the same.

Trump gained with crypto, that was the catch, his plan, he gained so much.

He is one man, bitcoin community is bigger than one man, don't let us rely on him. The bitcoin community should focus on sustaining itself, we have overcome many, here we are still close to $100k, so applaudable.

[Shishir99]

It doesn't really matter when Trump took over the White House. The price of Bitcoin did not pump just because Mr. Biden was going to leave office. It is because Mr. Trump is going to take over the office, and the price is pumped because of his influence. You guys cry more and more, saying it happened during Biden's term, and that will be a waste of your time and energy.

The reality is that it is Mr Trump who influenced the market. But I did not like how he played with the crypto market launching his own shitcoin. He shouldn't have done that because a lot of people believe he won't manipulate the market.

[STT]

Arguably the Federal reserve head is superior to the presidents office because they control the purse strings.   The irony is if the dollar tanks in value which possibly might be a result of political failure then it might help BTC rise but we should not hope for any real negative to governance and these rises from currency weakness arent a real positive imo.

I'd much rather focus on crypto itself and actual utility increases, both potential and actual usage.   If thats true then the ongoing drama of politics is just the weather we cant control.

[Perfectbaby]

I hope we can see a new ATH this year but the momentum seems to have completely faded. Trump's return to power after the elections was expected and this is a very bad situation for both the US and the world. Unfortunately the world's biggest country is being run by incompetent people. In such an insecure environment, no investment instrument feels safe. Those who thought Trump's election and his appointment of Musk would be good for Bitcoin have been proven wrong so far. I still find it safer to stay in Bitcoin rather than national currencies, but I don't see a high probability of experiencing a crazy bull market again.

You know politicians and how they structure their political movements, I know Trump has been eagerly to come back second tenor but that needs a serious political strategy and for that to happen, he has to look after the people's attention and their major focus and like we know, he uses Bitcoin to achieve his desires of becoming US president by Putting Bitcoin at first with his fake promises to make US and some part of the nation a Bitcoin Friendly Nation.

But after using Bitcoin to achieve his desires he never gave or made any presentation or a convincing statements towards Bitcoin to show that he's words were in line to his political campaign, because that was his major point of interest for gaining such a higher numbers of votes.

Of course you are right, there is every slim chance for the price to soar or hit new ATH anytime soon, as he is not longer influencing Bitcoin as we may have think. But lets watch how Q3 or Q4 would be for Bitcoin and to the entirety of cryptocurrency.

[philipma1957]

It doesn't really matter when Trump took over the White House. The price of Bitcoin did not pump just because Mr. Biden was going to leave office. It is because Mr. Trump is going to take over the office, and the price is pumped because of his influence. You guys cry more and more, saying it happened during Biden's term, and that will be a waste of your time and energy.

The reality is that it is Mr Trump who influenced the market. But I did not like how he played with the crypto market launching his own shitcoin. He shouldn't have done that because a lot of people believe he won't manipulate the market.

dude you are sad you think it means I like Biden and hate trump.

it does not mean that at all.

the both suck in different ways.

all it means is the chart read Biden is the champ.

the fact is there.  And the part that everyone was so excited to so trump cause he was pro btc was wishful thinking for price.


it is cool that wishful thinking helped the price out.

but lets go back in time and ask when did BTC ETFS get approved hmmm Joe Biden

who passed the laws the dems and Joe Biden not the musky trumpeter

who past the law that ended BTC like kind trading

Donald mother fucking trump Jan 1 2018

How big is my tax return due to that. 100 to 300 pages 2018 return to 2024 returns.


the reality is trump has yet to pass a single law to help BTC.

but he did do a pump and dump trump coin.

I will give trump credit for maybe trying to move illegal immigrants out.

But as far as I know it is under 10,000 of 11 to 20 million

[Agbamoni]

Seems the name Trump is beginning to look like Dump to me. Every statement I expected to be very bullish since he resumed office has become bearish.

Well I would say market correction will bring back bitcoin to six (6) digits again which is in this same month February but a new ATH under Trump might not be guaranteed this month but if it does then I see 128kish price per bitcoin.

In the vote I will take March

The earlier you wake up from the delusion, if you still believe trump has the influence to take Bitcoin to a new ATH. The news does and can influence the price of Bitcoin and not Trump himself. Bitcoin is not bound to any political entity and government manipulation. At least we can see the evidence. The Trump coin he launched we can see how easier it is for him to manipulate the system and Dump the coin. He cant do that to Bitcoin and i know you know why he cant.

Let us just focus on what we can accumulate now that the price has not break a new ATH, rather than focusing on political promises as if the power was in is hand from the very day he sworn into sit.

[philipma1957]

Look there is no arguing who the king is. it is Biden and will remain Biden you btc gets past 109.5k or

maybe we tank and trump never passes him leaving it to the next president.

[Tonimez]

Look there is no arguing who the king is. it is Biden and will remain Biden you btc gets past 109.5k or

maybe we tank and trump never passes him leaving it to the next president.

There are other factors that act on bitcoin that feel is the reason for the bearish market behaviour recently. Note that under biden, the announcement of Trump's victory in the polls was a very big stepping stone to a new ATH under biden. This happened because of the hope placed on Trump which led to the influx of investors with momentum.

Post-inauguration, bitcoin has witnessed several bear market due to disappointment coming from his new coins. His introduction of Trump instead of supporting the bitcoin as campaigned killed every zeal in investors. But we can't be too fast to conclude, the moment investors understand that bitcoin has existed before trump and has also recorded other ATH in his absence, that's when a new ATH would be possible. For now, focus on accumulation while waiting for a turnaround.

[philipma1957]

Look there is no arguing who the king is. it is Biden and will remain Biden you btc gets past 109.5k or

maybe we tank and trump never passes him leaving it to the next president.

There are other factors that act on bitcoin that feel is the reason for the bearish market behaviour recently. Note that under biden, the announcement of Trump's victory in the polls was a very big stepping stone to a new ATH under biden. This happened because of the hope placed on Trump which led to the influx of investors with momentum.

Post-inauguration, bitcoin has witnessed several bear market due to disappointment coming from his new coins. His introduction of Trump instead of supporting the bitcoin as campaigned killed every zeal in investors. But we can't be too fast to conclude, the moment investors understand that bitcoin has existed before trump and has also recorded other ATH in his absence, that's when a new ATH would be possible. For now, focus on accumulation while waiting for a turnaround.

the reality is he would execute any and all coins if he gains in another way.

basically he only wants more power more wealth and simply does what he thinks will help him out.

but no more trump bashing. when do you think he beats that 109.3 k number.

I still hope for Oct-Dec 2025

[Shishir99]

Look, Phil, I believe you are biased because of your political point of view. I assume you are a supporter of the Democratic Party. If it is real, then I will assume whatever I said was right. I accept that Trump did some messy shit, but you should know he was a Bitcoin/crypto hater back then. You can judge him from his previous tweets and his comments.

You can criticize previous Trump for these things. But I appreciate what he promised for the Bitcoin community and what he has done so far. No matter how hard you try to prove that it is Biden who got the ATH under his belt, the reality is something else.