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February 13, 2025, 07:26:29 PM
Last edit: February 14, 2025, 02:07:55 PM by WillyAp
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This will only be a wake-up call to those countries whose leaders choose to give listening ears and not deaf ears, because it will definitely and certainly affect some of the citizens (especially those who can't afford or get access to good health services).

The piece you haven't understood is the very reason million emigrate to the US/EU.

The reason there is corruption in 3rd World Countries is that 1st world government let it happen. There are more than 2 options of give or not giving.
There are NGOs and a lot of churches which will work with aid and make it reach, or better teach them how to provide for themselves. And not only Africa. Asia, Latin America.

Start up funding and if those start up don't pay decent wages star up funding is limited.

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February 14, 2025, 10:58:58 AM
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Yes, I've heard this news, and this happened just moments after Trump was inaugurated as US president. What I know is that Trump made this decision because he was disappointed with the WHO, which he considered failing to tackle the Covid pandemic. This withdrawal of support will probably have an impact on world health management because the US is the largest donor to WHO (hopefully not). Will African countries get other donors? maybe, but it won't be as big as the US.

Its really huge loss for WHO for US to take out their support on their organization but they still have large donors which provably could sustain their operation even if USA is not on their side anymore.

See this list of their top donors here https://www.statista.com/statistics/1456464/largest-donors-who/

But with this actions they made provably there's lots of people will get affected on their decisions. But let see if WHO would do more better that can impressed Trump since maybe they are just giving them a lesson and provably will return their humanitarian support if there's great changes happen.

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February 14, 2025, 12:22:20 PM
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Imagine US withdraws their support and the government of these countries fails to provide these vaccines and drugs for their citizens,
Can the citizens afford the actual prices of these drugs?
Will the mortality rate not increase?
What will be the health care systems of citizens?
It's not a good idea to immediately withdraw support but things have to change. There is a huge corruption in organizations like that and there is even more corruption in countries that get funds. Politicians are corrupt, healthcare members are corrupt, doctors are corrupt, pharma companies are corrupt, most of the money that's spent on help is actually spent on making corrupts richer.

I think that things have to change in a way that everything should be more transparent and healthcare should be optimized on solving the real problem instead of getting free money. It should be carefully monitored who receives what vaccine and why.

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February 14, 2025, 03:50:33 PM
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I find it very unfortunate when a country rapidly changes a policy and stops funding something that is vital and on which many human lives depend. Even the stop of USAID has some impact like that because some of the programs funded through it were also about crucial medical care.
Withdrawal from the WHO will have a negative impact, and I don't think it will help the US in any way either. There is currently nobody big enough to step in, unless a country like China decides to replace the US and use this as a great opportunity for spreading its influence. That is why even if the US wants to reduce spending, there should be long periods of transition to make sure there is enough time and options for others to step in.

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February 14, 2025, 09:36:53 PM
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Imagine there is another pandemic that starts from Africa, and travels around the world, something like COVID for example, something that requires lockdowns, something that destroys stock markets, something that destroys production and sales. Will that be better and cheaper for USA? They claim that African nations should support themselves at this point, and I agree, if the west didn't went there and stole all their resources (and still do) then maybe things could have been different, or maybe it wouldn't have, we do not know because we do not have that option to go back in history and change things.

But we know one thing, if Africa doesn't save itself, then USA will be hurt a lot more than what they were paying to WHO, we know that much. This isn't fair, why would USA be hurt by Africans not taking care of their health industry, why should USA be responsible for it? Well they shouldn't be, and now they are not because they withdrew, nobody forced them to do it, it was in their best interest to do it, and now it is not so they are not going to do it. Lets see how it will go for USA, lets see if they will benefit from it.

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February 14, 2025, 10:59:26 PM
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Imagine US withdraws their support and the government of these countries fails to provide these vaccines and drugs for their citizens,
Can the citizens afford the actual prices of these drugs?
Will the mortality rate not increase?
What will be the health care systems of citizens?
It's not a good idea to immediately withdraw support but things have to change. There is a huge corruption in organizations like that and there is even more corruption in countries that get funds. Politicians are corrupt, healthcare members are corrupt, doctors are corrupt, pharma companies are corrupt, most of the money that's spent on help is actually spent on making corrupts richer.

I think that things have to change in a way that everything should be more transparent and healthcare should be optimized on solving the real problem instead of getting free money. It should be carefully monitored who receives what vaccine and why.
I am one of the people who think that Trump is wrong for withdrawing his support of some organisation.  But the revelation by a U.S Congressman,  Scott Perry who represents Pennsylvania thst U.S.Agency for International Development (USAID) is used in funding terrorist organisations, including Boko Haram, ISIS, and Al-Qaeda had began to make me change my view. Boko Haram has caused so much havoc in my subregion. 

It is possible that some of the money given to international organisations like WHO might enter into the hands of terrorists. Some of these funds disbursed for certain health projects are not closely monitored which could end up entering the wrong hands. The US government should check or evaluate these agencies or organisations to ensure that all waste channels used by corrupt politicians are blocked. 

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February 15, 2025, 05:01:15 PM
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I am one of the people who think that Trump is wrong for withdrawing his support of some organisation.  But the revelation by a U.S Congressman,  Scott Perry who represents Pennsylvania thst U.S.Agency for International Development (USAID) is used in funding terrorist organisations, including Boko Haram, ISIS, and Al-Qaeda had began to make me change my view. Boko Haram has caused so much havoc in my subregion. 

It is possible that some of the money given to international organisations like WHO might enter into the hands of terrorists. Some of these funds disbursed for certain health projects are not closely monitored which could end up entering the wrong hands. The US government should check or evaluate these agencies or organisations to ensure that all waste channels used by corrupt politicians are blocked. 
It's definitely wrong but logical at the same time, the problem is that it's very corrupt and the sad part is that poor citizens of Africa are going to pay for it, not those filthy rich people who were abusing funds. Scott Perry wasn't using funds for terrorist organizations, he accused USAID for funding terrorist organizations.

By the way, I don't know how much money ends up in the hands of terrorists, I really doubt that happens but I'm sure that politicians of poor countries are using funds for their own benefits, to build a mansion, to buy luxury cars, fragrances and spend a good time.

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February 15, 2025, 05:05:56 PM
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I don’t necessarily think this is a bad thing. I don't trust Fauci or Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus one bit, the lies & the real origins of COVID which destroyed the world economy lay at their feet. How many of those creeps are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies that made the vaccines. How much money did they make from the pandemic. I have no problem with Trump pulling financial support.
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February 15, 2025, 06:23:24 PM
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Imagine US withdraws their support and the government of these countries fails to provide these vaccines and drugs for their citizens,
Can the citizens afford the actual prices of these drugs?
Will the mortality rate not increase?
What will be the health care systems of citizens?

I don't want to go political but I can assure you that there is nothing reasonable that has been done by WHO in my own opinion, this people just have the same pattern of money distribution to show they are doing their work but they are not doing anything. The medicine isn't reaching the end users and the poor people that doesn't have the privilege to acquire some of this expensive drugs. HIV drugs is very expensive but WHO has way of distrubuting it for free but only few people do have free access to it.

Some of them where protesting that Trum was trying to break the system of making things hard for the less privilege, the people that need this assistance but guess why they spoke up, if it never affected them they will never speak up or say anything but because Trump has seen the loopholes and stop them from earning, they will cry on the internet some of them condemn so it can go viral but we know it's all behind the camera, there is more than what is been displayed on the screen.

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February 15, 2025, 06:28:29 PM
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For a nation in debt and still having to fund certain programs to aid those in need at the other end of the world, it’s one of the things that made them great, a big brother nation to developing countries but then, if it ain’t really serving good purpose as some of it gets largely politicized, it becomes a wake up call for nations who are at the end of it. Trump is solely about the IS now as he should be, he’s got the votes of the people and I don’t see this to be a wrong step maybe. Let the nations to have been at the end of this wake up to responsibilities.

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Imagine there is another pandemic that starts from Africa, and travels around the world, something like COVID for example, something that requires lockdowns, something that destroys stock markets, something that destroys production and sales. Will that be better and cheaper for USA? They claim that African nations should support themselves at this point, and I agree, if the west didn't went there and stole all their resources (and still do) then maybe things could have been different, or maybe it wouldn't have, we do not know because we do not have that option to go back in history and change things.

But we know one thing, if Africa doesn't save itself, then USA will be hurt a lot more than what they were paying to WHO, we know that much. This isn't fair, why would USA be hurt by Africans not taking care of their health industry, why should USA be responsible for it? Well they shouldn't be, and now they are not because they withdrew, nobody forced them to do it, it was in their best interest to do it, and now it is not so they are not going to do it. Lets see how it will go for USA, lets see if they will benefit from it.
I'm sure US is well equipped to withstand any unforeseen pandemic outbreaks that may occur. Wether the outbreak may start from African countries or not I feel they are ready for it. Because taking such decision they know that there are consequences such as pandemic outbreaks that may start from African countries and spread to them, so I'm very sure inorder to avoid it in their state. They may put some policies in place that restrictions exit and entry into the country or even other more strict policies that would work for them.

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Yes, I've heard this news, and this happened just moments after Trump was inaugurated as US president. What I know is that Trump made this decision because he was disappointed with the WHO, which he considered failing to tackle the Covid pandemic. This withdrawal of support will probably have an impact on world health management because the US is the largest donor to WHO (hopefully not). Will African countries get other donors? maybe, but it won't be as big as the US.

We all know that the US is the shadow and biggest support system of the World Health Organization(WHO). Earlier this year,President Trump officially signed and disapproved the US from funding and catering for the needs of the WHO organization because he sensed some lapses in their role of responsibility and accountability.

Also forgetting that this disapproval has severe implications to the global healthcare services and it has also tarnished the US's roles to maintain adequate influence in shaping world global health.

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I'm sure US is well equipped to withstand any unforeseen pandemic outbreaks that may occur. Wether the outbreak may start from African countries or not I feel they are ready for it. Because taking such decision they know that there are consequences such as pandemic outbreaks that may start from African countries and spread to them, so I'm very sure inorder to avoid it in their state. They may put some policies in place that restrictions exit and entry into the country or even other more strict policies that would work for them.

It sounds easy but in reality fighting any pandemic is not easy and the covid pandemic has shown us that. Despite being considered the country with the largest and most advanced healthcare system in the world but they have also failed to fight covid. Millions of Americans have also died from covid and the economy has been hit as hard as many other countries . So don't exaggerate about them, and underestimate the pandemic.

I also feel quite sorry that the US is no longer supporting WHO because they are the largest donor and this will cause significant losses to WHO and countries that depend on WHO support like Africa . But Trump also seems right to make that decision because , as some have pointed out, corruption needs to stop .

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February 17, 2025, 05:53:02 PM
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The Initial agreement from history was for the US to help fund theses health care systems until the African Countries are able to get enough funds and fund their own health care system in their individual country. But till now these African countries are yet to be able to fund them selves and are still depending on the US aid.
The agreement seems like it was never going to end because of the corruption of most African leaders, that regardless of the resources, their country is still impoverished because they will rather spend public funds on personal needs than public funds on things like improving their healthcare and preparing for times like this.

Maybe this will be a wake-up call to them.



Exactly the reply I was looking forward to reading.
Of course, I can agree with others who feel that trump's action might affect so many, but looking at how most of these African countries has developed today, isn't it high time to start leaving their responsibilities to them. In terms of financing health care, many African countries has failed despite having what it takes to do so. These countries do generate good revenue, but don't allocate reasonable amount to health care. Besides, most of African government threat themselves overseas, so understanding the importance of these health improvement doesn't concerns them much.

This will only be a wake-up call to those countries whose leaders choose to give listening ears and not deaf ears, because it will definitely and certainly affect some of the citizens (especially those who can't afford or get access to good health services).

I feel the best way to have tackled this issue is for all western countries to pass a law that no one from the African countries have access to their health care systems in any of their countries. I believe this will be a wake up call for our leaders for them to develop and equip our health care systems, putting both good manpower and machineries in place so that they will be forced to use them. By this every country leader will fight to have good health care systems in their own country at least for their sakes and the sake of their loved ones.

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Imagine US withdraws their support and the government of these countries fails to provide these vaccines and drugs for their citizens,
Can the citizens afford the actual prices of these drugs?
Will the mortality rate not increase?
What will be the health care systems of citizens?
It will be a really concerning situation if the US withdraws their support for funding healthcare systems in African countries. The dependency on external aid for vital healthcare needs is a critical issue that needs to be addressed. The need to seek alternative sources of funding or support from other countries, from international organizations, or NGOs will increase if African countries face a situation where they lose support from the US.
The potential increase in mortality rates due to limited access to essential healthcare services is another valid concern. Governments would need to prioritize healthcare spending and potentially seek innovative financing mechanisms to ensure the continuity of healthcare services for their citizens.

African countries need to really come together to work towards building self-sustaining healthcare systems, even though the transition may require time, support, and collaboration from various top stakeholders to ensure the well-being of their citizens.
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The United States of America has recently announced that it will stop funding the World Health Organization. Such an announcement will naturally have a wide-ranging impact on countries that receive services funded by the health organization. Such a sudden decision will act like a bomb for all Africans. If America, which supports the World Health Organization the most, stops funding, the world's poorest countries could face a serious disease epidemic.

There are many African countries that provide free services for the prevention and treatment of diseases, including various vaccines. If these services are stopped in the countries, then the health sector of those poor African countries will definitely increase. The number of deadly diseases including HIV virus, diarrhea, malaria and others will increase in those countries.



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There are some African countries that try to allocate a significant part of their budget to health. But even though that grant is much higher than their country's, it is not adequate in reality. The World Health Organization has worked to fill that gap. According to THEGUARDIAN, the United States provides 18% of the total grant to the World Health Organization.

However, if the United States does not provide funds, African countries will have to ensure the necessary health services themselves, instead of depending on others.

Along with government initiatives, everyone must be able to take all the necessary measures. The steps that need to be taken for this must be implemented quickly. We should be self-reliant, instead of depending on others.

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Will African countries look for other support or sponsors for this very Vital thing or are they willing and capable to fund health care systems that has been funded free for them over the years.


To hell there is no proper free medications in Africa, if you are attended freely in the medical free center in Africa as I know you are just wasting your time with the hope to get remedies to your health because you will be poorly attended to when you visit the government medical centers. Even, their medical facilities are just there like art of occupying spaces between they are not working.
We depend more of ourselves and even, when you want to get a better medical attention, the private medical centers are always recommended but you have your money at hand to pay for your services.

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I don’t necessarily think this is a bad thing. I don't trust Fauci or Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus one bit, the lies & the real origins of COVID which destroyed the world economy lay at their feet. How many of those creeps are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies that made the vaccines. How much money did they make from the pandemic. I have no problem with Trump pulling financial support.
They made billions of dollars. Btw in my country people haven't been vaccinated and yet there are no Covid cases since Russia-Ukraine war. It's funny that Covid can disappear during war. Btw our government was paying $100 or something like that to people to get vaccinated. It's funny, isn't it?

Btw I understand Trump in this case, it's a logical action from him but the problem is that poor citizens will be forced to pay for it. A few years ago I was in touch with USAID. It has a reputation in my country and I thought it was something cool and very serious but then when I saw the members of the project that they funded with millions and I wanted to cry. The project was poorly managed, employees were lazy and in the end, money was spent on nothing. They wanted to train IT professionals but they had contracts with very bad institutions that were actually scammers as I understood from my deep research and multiple feedbacks online.
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I don’t necessarily think this is a bad thing. I don't trust Fauci or Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus one bit, the lies & the real origins of COVID which destroyed the world economy lay at their feet. How many of those creeps are in bed with the pharmaceutical companies that made the vaccines. How much money did they make from the pandemic. I have no problem with Trump pulling financial support.
They made billions of dollars. Btw in my country people haven't been vaccinated and yet there are no Covid cases since Russia-Ukraine war. It's funny that Covid can disappear during war. Btw our government was paying $100 or something like that to people to get vaccinated. It's funny, isn't it?

Btw I understand Trump in this case, it's a logical action from him but the problem is that poor citizens will be forced to pay for it. A few years ago I was in touch with USAID. It has a reputation in my country and I thought it was something cool and very serious but then when I saw the members of the project that they funded with millions and I wanted to cry. The project was poorly managed, employees were lazy and in the end, money was spent on nothing. They wanted to train IT professionals but they had contracts with very bad institutions that were actually scammers as I understood from my deep research and multiple feedbacks online.

It was said that DOGE exposed these guys which the US is not funding these corrupt organizations anymore. I couldn't say its the right thing to do because there are definitely lots of lives going to be affected when US gets out of WHO. I guess its time for African countries to be more independent when it comes to their health.

They're going to have to take care of themselves and find vaccines among their neighbors after all there are more countries still members of the WHO.
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The United States of America has recently announced that it will stop funding the World Health Organization. Such an announcement will naturally have a wide-ranging impact on countries that receive services funded by the health organization. Such a sudden decision will act like a bomb for all Africans. If America, which supports the World Health Organization the most, stops funding, the world's poorest countries could face a serious disease epidemic.

There are many African countries that provide free services for the prevention and treatment of diseases, including various vaccines. If these services are stopped in the countries, then the health sector of those poor African countries will definitely increase. The number of deadly diseases including HIV virus, diarrhea, malaria and others will increase in those countries.



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There are some African countries that try to allocate a significant part of their budget to health. But even though that grant is much higher than their country's, it is not adequate in reality. The World Health Organization has worked to fill that gap. According to THEGUARDIAN, the United States provides 18% of the total grant to the World Health Organization.

However, if the United States does not provide funds, African countries will have to ensure the necessary health services themselves, instead of depending on others.

Along with government initiatives, everyone must be able to take all the necessary measures. The steps that need to be taken for this must be implemented quickly. We should be self-reliant, instead of depending on others.
The move by the U.S to withdraw from WHO may have raised concerns but one thing we must not fail to acknowledge is the fact that Africans also contributed to the development and growth of the U.S and it's no wonder why it is easier for our African professionals to be offered citizenship or permanent residency and work in the U.S due to their IQ in a specific area of expertise and professionalism.

 Now, many of these professionals may have to be sent back home to come develop their country if worse comes to worse, and without anymore funds to care for their families back home in form of financial aid or support from an organization like the WHO, there might be an economic shift that would affect trading, there will be less immigrants, there will be more politicians being more dutiful and responsible because there aren't any foreign support and eyes will be on the national portfolio to sanction and prosecutor any public servant mismanaging government funds for personal gains.

It's a wake up call really and I hope African countries will take this as an initiative to develop their country and institute the right policies to better cater for times of national emergencies and disasters.

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