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April 01, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
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I bought a S1 and got this PSU http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vs-seriestm-vs550-550-watt-power-supply

I use the paperclip trick, turn on the PSU(works fine), the antminer also powers up and I can access the settings panel, but after 2 minutes or so, the PSU just outright shuts down...what the hell is wrong?

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April 01, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
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was doing bit of research when I bought my PSU just in case this would happen anyways I refer

anyone have list for power supply that work with S1 ?
I just kill a Corsair VS550 after 3 minutes powering S1.
one member say use corsair RM850, any cheaper ?
Is it actually dead? The problem is that the VS series is group regulated, so it uses both the 5V line and the 12V line in its feedback circuit. If you draw current from only the 12V rail, the voltage on the 12V rail will drop a lot (sometimes under 11V) and the 5V rail will go really high, which can cause it to shut down. I have a VX450 that is similar, it will shut down if I try to run a Single or S1 on it, but if I draw 1A from the 5V rail it runs fine.

so you need to suck up 1Amp usage on the 5V cable
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April 01, 2014, 02:44:37 PM
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was doing bit of research when I bought my PSU just in case this would happen anyways I refer

anyone have list for power supply that work with S1 ?
I just kill a Corsair VS550 after 3 minutes powering S1.
one member say use corsair RM850, any cheaper ?
Is it actually dead? The problem is that the VS series is group regulated, so it uses both the 5V line and the 12V line in its feedback circuit. If you draw current from only the 12V rail, the voltage on the 12V rail will drop a lot (sometimes under 11V) and the 5V rail will go really high, which can cause it to shut down. I have a VX450 that is similar, it will shut down if I try to run a Single or S1 on it, but if I draw 1A from the 5V rail it runs fine.

so you need to suck up 1Amp usage on the 5V cable
And how do you do that?

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April 01, 2014, 02:48:27 PM
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HI, I have the same problem with Corsair VS550. So I have to use 2 Corsair VS550  per 1 ANTminer S1. so I don't understand where they claim that they can use 550W. I use other brand which is cheaper one. It work fine. any idea?
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April 01, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
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Im pretty sure I just answered your question above

it be easier, cheaper and safer if you bought a proper one

Dogie's made a list of power supplies you can use

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486121.msg5354145#msg5354145

Also Jonny Guru does a lot of testing of power supplies

http://www.jonnyguru.com/
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April 01, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
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Im pretty sure I just answered your question above

it be easier, cheaper and safer if you bought a proper one

Dogie's made a list of power supplies you can use

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486121.msg5354145#msg5354145

Also Jonny Guru does a lot of testing of power supplies

http://www.jonnyguru.com/
Too late, already bought it, no time to replace. So what do I do to make it work exactly?

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April 01, 2014, 03:04:29 PM
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like I said you need to power something on the 5v cable so that the power supply can balance the power.
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April 01, 2014, 03:39:09 PM
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Looks like I'm screwed, I called the retailer and told him I want to swap the PSU for something else as this one isn't "enough", obviously the answer I got wasn't satisfying, so guys. Suggest me how to make it work, I have no devices to plug in the 5v line, and the ones that I did were not enough.

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April 01, 2014, 07:00:14 PM
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And how do you do that?

I plug a spare PC fan on the red/black cable on a molex connector.

Other options are to attach an old hard drive, floppy drive, CD/DVD drive etc.

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April 01, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
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Looks like I'm screwed, I called the retailer and told him I want to swap the PSU for something else as this one isn't "enough", obviously the answer I got wasn't satisfying, so guys. Suggest me how to make it work, I have no devices to plug in the 5v line, and the ones that I did were not enough.


here you go

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-JUMP-START-ATX-20-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/251029011014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a727eba46

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-PCS-JUMP-START-EPS-ATX-24-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/251029052533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a727f5c75

here is a fancy one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUMP-START-ON-OFF-ATX-20-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/261256302157?pt=US_Power_Cables_Connectors&hash=item3cd416ce4d


if you buy one please tell the seller I told you.   philipma1957

  I buy a lot from him.  he will drop price about 25 - 50 cents on one piece.

also once it runs  try under clocking to freq 325 vs standard 350.

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April 01, 2014, 09:56:32 PM
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Looks like I'm screwed, I called the retailer and told him I want to swap the PSU for something else as this one isn't "enough", obviously the answer I got wasn't satisfying, so guys. Suggest me how to make it work, I have no devices to plug in the 5v line, and the ones that I did were not enough.


here you go

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-JUMP-START-ATX-20-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/251029011014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a727eba46

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-PCS-JUMP-START-EPS-ATX-24-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/251029052533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a727f5c75

here is a fancy one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUMP-START-ON-OFF-ATX-20-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/261256302157?pt=US_Power_Cables_Connectors&hash=item3cd416ce4d


if you buy one please tell the seller I told you.   philipma1957

  I buy a lot from him.  he will drop price about 25 - 50 cents on one piece.

also once it runs  try under clocking to freq 325 vs standard 350.
The problem was not the paperclip trick, the problem was as explained by GiLa. Plugging in a simple CD-ROM drive/HDD fixed the problem for me. However, it's a dirty fix.

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April 01, 2014, 10:18:21 PM
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The problem was not the paperclip trick, the problem was as explained by GiLa. Plugging in a simple CD-ROM drive/HDD fixed the problem for me. However, it's a dirty fix.
Those items also include a load resistor to eliminate the need for a HDD.
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April 02, 2014, 12:36:16 AM
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Looks like I'm screwed, I called the retailer and told him I want to swap the PSU for something else as this one isn't "enough", obviously the answer I got wasn't satisfying, so guys. Suggest me how to make it work, I have no devices to plug in the 5v line, and the ones that I did were not enough.


here you go

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-JUMP-START-ATX-20-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/251029011014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a727eba46

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-PCS-JUMP-START-EPS-ATX-24-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/251029052533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a727f5c75

here is a fancy one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUMP-START-ON-OFF-ATX-20-PIN-POWER-SUPPLY-WITHOUT-A-MOTHERBOARD-MADE-IN-USA-/261256302157?pt=US_Power_Cables_Connectors&hash=item3cd416ce4d


if you buy one please tell the seller I told you.   philipma1957

  I buy a lot from him.  he will drop price about 25 - 50 cents on one piece.

also once it runs  try under clocking to freq 325 vs standard 350.
The problem was not the paperclip trick, the problem was as explained by GiLa. Plugging in a simple CD-ROM drive/HDD fixed the problem for me. However, it's a dirty fix.

First off why do I want to remember remember the 5th of november? Really I am curious .


second those links all include a resistor to give you a proper load ,    They are the clean fix!

and the cheapest one is about 5 bucks or less.

 The paperclip solution is a fire hazard and if you burn you place down your insurance may not pay, using an hdd or a cd player along with the paperclip is truly stupid cheap .

 no offense  as I prefer to say:

 stupid cheap

 and  not use the politically correct:

 Pennywise and pound foolish.



When it is what should be done!


This goes out to all s-1 miners myself included.  We pay about  600 USD for the s-1 with the psu and the router the switches, cat 6 cables.  plus power bill or close to

700 usd  and then you don't buy  a 4 dollar plug to do the psu correctly.  That is stupid cheap.

BTW I have the plugs as  being 'stupid cheap' has burned me more then once!  LOL

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April 02, 2014, 12:48:52 AM
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How is it wired?  You are probably not using the other 12 volt rail.

I had this problem, at first I had the 6 pin connector plugged into one card and then I bought this wire convertor that changed two 4 pin plugs into a 6 pin, it over heated quick and shut down every time.  Furthermore if you have two 6 pin connectors on the same wire(as in jumped together) and are using them this is your problem and use my fix as they are on the same rail, see below.

The problem was there are two 12 volt rails and I was only using one rail. I had to cut the ends of the eight(Two for pin) 12 volt plug and wire into the terminals for one card, and plug the 6 pin connector into the other card.  Basically 1 rail to CPU and stuff, 1 to GPU and stuff.
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April 02, 2014, 01:40:35 AM
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Looks like I'm screwed, I called the retailer and told him I want to swap the PSU for something else as this one isn't "enough", obviously the answer I got wasn't satisfying, so guys. Suggest me how to make it work, I have no devices to plug in the 5v line, and the ones that I did were not enough.

You can use a resistor, I've had luck with a 56 Ohm 1/2 Watt resistor between 5v and ground on the 24pin connector.  Your supply might need something that draws more power if your really do need to draw 1 Amp.  There was a helpful thread on reddit a few days back about this same exact problem.  Make sure the wattage rating on the resistor is high enough or you will start a fire...

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/216epw/need_help_with_antminer_s1/cgasnca
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April 02, 2014, 03:09:40 PM
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are you making good contact with the paperclip or is it loose?  I'm running 2 overclocked antminers per 1 RM850 corsair psu.  For the psu, I used a jumper wire(radio shack) and folded the ends(to make it thicker) before inserting into connector.
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April 03, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
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There's a lot of derp in this thread.

OP - the jumpers philipma1957 posted do work and eliminate the need for a cd-rom or HD plugged in.  I've used them on several different PSUs on Ants and Cubes.

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April 03, 2014, 12:23:59 PM
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You don't need to anything with the cd-rom crap.. I've had 4 ant miners powered for 3 weeks straight..
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April 03, 2014, 04:47:03 PM
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Yeah, what is the need for a cd-rom drive?    1. insert jumper wire into atx-24 pin connector   2.  connect psu to antminer and power on  3. disable wifi on laptop and connect to antminer using ethernet cable   4. set wifi or ethernet settings and set miner configuration settings, save and apply  5. wait 30-40 seconds for ants to start mining, system --> reboot if necessary.

edit: you will need a wifi antenna if wireless mining.  
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Yeah, what is the need for a cd-rom drive?    1. insert jumper wire into atx-24 pin connector   2.  connect psu to antminer and power on  3. disable wifi on laptop and connect to antminer using ethernet cable   4. set wifi or ethernet settings and set miner configuration settings, save and apply  5. wait 30-40 seconds for ants to start mining, system --> reboot if necessary.

edit: you will need a wifi antenna if wireless mining.  

Some ATX power supplies are crappy and won't work if you only have things plugged into the +12 volt lines.  The CDROM or resistor trick loads the +5 volt line as well and makes the crap supplies function normally.  It's mostly older and super cheap supplies that have this problem so it is kind of rare.
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