we88 stole my profit 5400 myr ( ≈1200usd )

[olixirisug69]

What happened:
I made a deposit of 50 dollars, lost it after some time on sports betting, then I made a deposit and within a month I managed to make my balance about 1300 dollars, and when I tried to withdraw them they asked for a photo of my document, after some time they said that they would not withdraw my winnings, but only the last deposit. I consider them scammers, everything is fine when you lose your money on bets, but when you try to withdraw the money you earned, then you are a scammer, just block their topic

Scammers Profile Link:
https://www.we88my1.com/

Amount Scammed: 1200 usdt
Payment Method: USDT TRC 20

Proof of Payment:
8f53b4666402d0d8e8f1f4eff94d704eda51fdf51ff022788b70467957ef7b15  hash

PM/Chat Logs: https://prnt.sc/uL8vmLKMfcxK

https://prnt.sc/7Nhylawe-R0b

[noviesol]

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

[Cointxz]

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

[olixirisug69]

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

[noviesol]

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

For me it is unclear which rule you violeted according to the casino? Could you specify this?

[Cointxz]

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

I think you should be the one needs to read what you write in your own description. There’s no written statement that clarifies about not using bonuses. Using your own money is already given when you gamble so you should state if there’s bonus involved.

Besides, even without bonus doing arbitrage betting or other form of strategy which casino doesn’t allowed will always result to violation.

Again, if you are confident then follow what I suggest. I’m not defending the casino rather I’m just interpreting the support message that you attached.

[olixirisug69]

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

For me it is unclear which rule you violeted according to the casino? Could you specify this?

Dear Customer, Here is the final decisions by WE88 Management, We regret to inform you that you are under blacklisted by WE88 due to your account "denisbaran" activity violated the general rules of gaming. We will proceed to refund your last deposit of RM 444.56 and permanently terminate the account from now. Effective : 5/2/2025

Gentle Remind : If we figure out there's another new account got the same activities we will proceed to blacklist the account and forfeit all the funds from the account without any notice. Best Regards WE88 Management.

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

It looks like you violated their Terms of Service. Did you have more than one account?

It’s not about having multiple accounts alone that cause him violation of ToS. The support statement is referring that they will do the same in case this user has more account that will the same activity that violates the ToS.

Probably it involves arbitrage betting while availing the casino bonuses since this the popular trick of users that want to take advantage from casino offers promotion.

There’s no way to solve this unless OP is honest on his statement and avail the service of CG or AG.

I think you need to read the description carefully, that I only played with my own money, and I didn't use any bonuses, and I lost my first deposit, which they didn't refund. I'm glad you're trying to protect the casino, but this casino is just a scam

I think you should be the one needs to read what you write in your own description. There’s no written statement that clarifies about not using bonuses. Using your own money is already given when you gamble so you should state if there’s bonus involved.

Besides, even without bonus doing arbitrage betting or other form of strategy which casino doesn’t allowed will always result to violation.

Again, if you are confident then follow what I suggest. I’m not defending the casino rather I’m just interpreting the support message that you attached.

as far as I know they have 3 providers, and if there were any problems as you say with arbitration situations, then the provider would have stopped this moment, from this it follows that the casino allowed itself to simply zero out my winnings, because it did not want to pay them out

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[Cointxz]

as far as I know they have 3 providers, and if there were any problems as you say with arbitration situations, then the provider would have stopped this moment, from this it follows that the casino allowed itself to simply zero out my winnings, because it did not want to pay them out

What I’m trying to suggest is seek help with casino guru or askgambler because they can look closely on your case provided that you are innocent since they can ask the casino with supporting documents about their decision to ban your account.

Maybe @holydarkness can help you since he has connections with multiple casino representatives. I’m not trying to be negative here but issues that involves violation of ToS is very to win against casino.

Just accept their refund first then pursue your case.

[holydarkness]

as far as I know they have 3 providers, and if there were any problems as you say with arbitration situations, then the provider would have stopped this moment, from this it follows that the casino allowed itself to simply zero out my winnings, because it did not want to pay them out

What I’m trying to suggest is seek help with casino guru or askgambler because they can look closely on your case provided that you are innocent since they can ask the casino with supporting documents about their decision to ban your account.

Maybe @holydarkness can help you since he has connections with multiple casino representatives. I’m not trying to be negative here but issues that involves violation of ToS is very to win against casino.

Just accept their refund first then pursue your case.

Unfortunately, I am not well connected to this casino as they're relatively new and barely under my radar, thus I have not ever been in touch with them. And I agree, as this is a multi-acc accusation, it's a very hard case to disprove their claim. Though a neighboring Asia-focused casino once relied on me to help resolve a dispute with multi-acc by reviewing their claims, I don't think WE88 will want to pursue the same path. Hence, the best way will still be to hand it to an arbitrator like CG or AG where the casino can provide their proof-of-connection and the mediator can review and validate those proofs.

Though I can't find them on AG, WE88 is available for mediation on CG.

[DGUDGUDGU]

I have had the exact same message and also been scammed.
Although what you will find on this forum is people auto siding with the casino operators instead of waiting for their reply and making an evaluation, they automatically default to "you must of done something wrong or they would of paid your funds."

Goodluck getting paid out, I think we both aren't seeing that money again lol.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I have had the exact same message and also been scammed.
Although what you will find on this forum is people auto siding with the casino operators instead of waiting for their reply and making an evaluation, they automatically default to "you must of done something wrong or they would of paid your funds."

Goodluck getting paid out, I think we both aren't seeing that money again lol.

You are wrong. This is not always the case. I have seen several scenarios where casino operators or support have been asked to reply or resolve the issues. The problem is there are also bad loses who will want to use all the available means to extort casinos. So it's a thin line between honestly and dishonesty.

I would love OP to inquire from them, and they state to him what terms exactly he breached. As advised, casinoguru could be a good place to start from.

[DGUDGUDGU]

I have had the exact same message and also been scammed.
Although what you will find on this forum is people auto siding with the casino operators instead of waiting for their reply and making an evaluation, they automatically default to "you must of done something wrong or they would of paid your funds."

Goodluck getting paid out, I think we both aren't seeing that money again lol.

You are wrong. This is not always the case. I have seen several scenarios where casino operators or support have been asked to reply or resolve the issues. The problem is there are also bad loses who will want to use all the available means to extort casinos. So it's a thin line between honestly and dishonesty.

I would love OP to inquire from them, and they state to him what terms exactly he breached. As advised, casinoguru could be a good place to start from.

I inquired from them, they told me to message them on this very forum a week ago, and I have been contacted.
They commented publicly on my scam thread and clarified absolutely nothing.

[holydarkness]

I have had the exact same message and also been scammed.
Although what you will find on this forum is people auto siding with the casino operators instead of waiting for their reply and making an evaluation, they automatically default to "you must of done something wrong or they would of paid your funds."

Goodluck getting paid out, I think we both aren't seeing that money again lol.

Umm... I would beg to differ. Each cases are treated as unique and approached with case-by-case basis. We were not exactly generalizing and auto siding with the casinos. There are instances, plenty, where casinos are inquired to provide evidence [when they can] or to find a way to settle with their players. We are here to deescalate a situation and find a resolution, not to stir the pot and assign blame.

As a case on point, we encouraged OP to escalate to CG [I had it in mind to offer him a guidance on how to submit a dispute on CG, suppose OP asked] instead of simply saying, "OP, you clearly breach a ToS here, good luck getting your fund back."

With OP and your case being raised, I'll try to reach their rep to provide a middle ground, but the best way I have in mind is for you both to raise to CG, where they can provide their findings in confidence.

I'll add both of your cases, as well as creating a new entry for this casino, on my list, and will try to reach their rep for the time being.

[memehunter]

Uploading the image posted by OP;
OP can you give us screenshots of your bets placed? This can be crucial in terms of proving your accusations. Clearly, the casino in question is accusing you of some exploit (as per my inference of the email and tonality) and you have to prove (yes, unfortunately, the onus is on you) that you have not gained any edge through illegal means.   



 

[olixirisug69]

Uploading the image posted by OP;
OP can you give us screenshots of your bets placed? This can be crucial in terms of proving your accusations. Clearly, the casino in question is accusing you of some exploit (as per my inference of the email and tonality) and you have to prove (yes, unfortunately, the onus is on you) that you have not gained any edge through illegal means.   

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it's all funny how everyone is trying to defend this casino that hasn't even paid out all my deposits, I can't send you screenshots of my bets, I don't have access to the casino.

[memehunter]

it's all funny how everyone is trying to defend this casino that hasn't even paid out all my deposits, I can't send you screenshots of my bets, I don't have access to the casino.

I assure you, this is not the case and your assumptions are totally unfounded. You know it, because that is exactly why you chose this forum to share your difficulties.
Having said that, since you are unable to post screenshots of your betting history, can you tell us what is the nature of your betting pattern? I mean, what sports? What games? This will allow room for further discussions.
   

[holydarkness]

Uploading the image posted by OP;
OP can you give us screenshots of your bets placed? This can be crucial in terms of proving your accusations. Clearly, the casino in question is accusing you of some exploit (as per my inference of the email and tonality) and you have to prove (yes, unfortunately, the onus is on you) that you have not gained any edge through illegal means.   

[image snip]

it's all funny how everyone is trying to defend this casino that hasn't even paid out all my deposits, I can't send you screenshots of my bets, I don't have access to the casino.

It's not everyone is trying to defend the casino, we asked for further evidence [screenshot] because that's how this board runs: by evidence. We can't just take statements without any screenshot or other form of evidence backing it up.

And as I previously said, I think the best way will be to get it escalated to CG, where they can scrutinize over the evidence provided by both sides. So yes, in a way, the casino will have to provide supporting evidence to their findings that's otherwise can not be provided here due to several sensitive reason, suppose you escalate it to CG.

[BC.GAME.SCAM]

Uploading the image posted by OP;
OP can you give us screenshots of your bets placed? This can be crucial in terms of proving your accusations. Clearly, the casino in question is accusing you of some exploit (as per my inference of the email and tonality) and you have to prove (yes, unfortunately, the onus is on you) that you have not gained any edge through illegal means.  

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/09/e7MFa.png

 

it's all funny how everyone is trying to defend this casino that hasn't even paid out all my deposits, I can't send you screenshots of my bets, I don't have access to the casino.

Friend. The people on the forum work for the casinos, they will make it seem like you are the one who did things wrong, they are all in cahoots to scam you, try to scam you, the same thing happened to me, the casino sponsors bitcointalk and most of these rat men users sponsor them in their signatures, don't believe anything they tell you, they are just as scammers as the casinos.

The user called "holydarkness" always claims to have a contact who works for the casino where you have the problem, but this is totally false. Be very careful with "holydarkness" he is one of the biggest scammers on the forum.

[LEVSKI7]

It's true. These paid geeks always act like that. scum

[ryzaadit]

The user called "holydarkness" always claims to have a contact who works for the casino where you have the problem, but this is totally false. Be very careful with "holydarkness" he is one of the biggest scammers on the forum.

A scam is not being moderated in here, everyone in here is a user and helping you is do a voluntary job. Watching him @holydarkness, helping a case are mostly via PM BTT or first time he reached the casino could be via (Live-chats or Emails). If you think, his help are not helping then you are freely to ask some other help and perhaps tried CASINO Guru or AskGambler. Man, you're blamming for someone who doing a charity work while scam is not being moderated in BTT. Gods, help me.