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December 21, 2011, 11:52:31 AM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
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December 22, 2011, 04:35:04 AM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
What is your sample size for this "Holiday Slump" effect?
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December 22, 2011, 08:43:31 AM
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There are tons of peeps who have "extra" cash to play around with after Christmas so I don't really see much of a slump happening  Wink

Furthermore the 50% fee discount coming into effect on the 25th to the end of the year ought to do something for volume as well.

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December 22, 2011, 09:03:16 AM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
What is your sample size for this "Holiday Slump" effect?
I don't remember anything specific - but on the way up it was quite common that on weekends and bank holidays there were slumps - because no new money was coming in.  On the way down this effect disappeared - but now we are back on an up trend aren't we?
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December 22, 2011, 02:05:35 PM
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Can't say this was unexpected.

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December 22, 2011, 04:02:32 PM
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Furthermore the 50% fee discount coming into effect on the 25th to the end of the year ought to do something for volume as well.

Could you elaborate? What fee is being discounted?
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December 22, 2011, 04:04:17 PM
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Furthermore the 50% fee discount coming into effect on the 25th to the end of the year ought to do something for volume as well.

Could you elaborate? What fee is being discounted?

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December 22, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
What is your sample size for this "Holiday Slump" effect?
I don't remember anything specific - but on the way up it was quite common that on weekends and bank holidays there were slumps - because no new money was coming in.  On the way down this effect disappeared - but now we are back on an up trend aren't we?

With Dwolla Instant that effect will be lessened.

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December 23, 2011, 05:47:39 AM
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Hmm - seems that the sell pressure got discharged, maybe there is nothing left for the holidays?
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December 23, 2011, 05:53:39 AM
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Money doesn't disappear, it changes hands. Stop worrying so much about what other people are doing with their money and start worrying about what you're doing with yours.

Also, if you are so interested in how much money is coming in to Bitcoin, why not do something to get more money into it? Speculation = circle jerk of people who can't "do".

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December 23, 2011, 09:14:04 AM
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Money doesn't disappear, it changes hands. Stop worrying so much about what other people are doing with their money and start worrying about what you're doing with yours.

Also, if you are so interested in how much money is coming in to Bitcoin, why not do something to get more money into it? Speculation = circle jerk of people who can't "do".

It is kind of dumb to 'do something' without thinking what you are doing and advising it here is simply trolling.  I predicted this slump and saved a lot of money in this way.
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December 23, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
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I wouldn't call it a slump... It's more like 1 guy cashed out $100,000 worth of bitcoin.  The good news is several people bought all those, so it makes the event harder to repeat.  As soon as the sale finished the price rapidly recovered.  Not fully, but $100,000 is huge volume.

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December 23, 2011, 01:20:36 PM
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I have gone long on bitcoin.  In the very recent past (no, not $4.50+).  Which means, bitcoin is doomed and about to crash.  Everything I buy ends up going the other way in price.  I surely have the death touch when it comes to investing.  Beware.

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December 23, 2011, 07:29:53 PM
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I have gone long on bitcoin.  In the very recent past (no, not $4.50+).  Which means, bitcoin is doomed and about to crash.  Everything I buy ends up going the other way in price.  I surely have the death touch when it comes to investing.  Beware.

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December 23, 2011, 08:45:50 PM
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I wouldn't call it a slump... It's more like 1 guy cashed out $100,000 worth of bitcoin.  The good news is several people bought all those, so it makes the event harder to repeat.  As soon as the sale finished the price rapidly recovered.  Not fully, but $100,000 is huge volume.

It's impressive how $100k hardly makes any impact on the closing price these days.  Just a few months ago, $100k could trigger a HUGE 50%-price-drop selloff.

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December 23, 2011, 10:24:50 PM
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I wouldn't call it a slump... It's more like 1 guy cashed out $100,000 worth of bitcoin.  The good news is several people bought all those, so it makes the event harder to repeat.  As soon as the sale finished the price rapidly recovered.  Not fully, but $100,000 is huge volume.

It's impressive how $100k hardly makes any impact on the closing price these days.  Just a few months ago, $100k could trigger a HUGE 50%-price-drop selloff.

Exactly.  It works the other way too, which is why I'm skeptical of seeing high prices any time soon.

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December 23, 2011, 11:54:34 PM
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I wouldn't call it a slump... It's more like 1 guy cashed out $100,000 worth of bitcoin.  The good news is several people bought all those, so it makes the event harder to repeat.  As soon as the sale finished the price rapidly recovered.  Not fully, but $100,000 is huge volume.

It's impressive how $100k hardly makes any impact on the closing price these days.  Just a few months ago, $100k could trigger a HUGE 50%-price-drop selloff.

Exactly.  It works the other way too, which is why I'm skeptical of seeing high prices any time soon.

High prices now have to be based on the merits and depths of the bitcoin economy rather than on some manipulator buying large sums of bitcoin. On the other hand, I believe, it is easier now to increase the price of bitcoin than to decrease it as more and more bitcoins are in the hands of more and more people. People has now it seems stopped panic selling.
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December 24, 2011, 01:29:27 AM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
What is your sample size for this "Holiday Slump" effect?
I don't remember anything specific - but on the way up it was quite common that on weekends and bank holidays there were slumps - because no new money was coming in.  On the way down this effect disappeared - but now we are back on an up trend aren't we?

With Dwolla Instant that effect will be lessened.

Dwolla Instant is a non-issue. They have already been overwhelmed and had to cut the service off. Another amateur move by dwolla, but did anyone see giving away free money as going well?

Regarding the slump...what slump? Bitcoin is double the price of last month.
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December 24, 2011, 05:21:39 AM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
What is your sample size for this "Holiday Slump" effect?
I don't remember anything specific - but on the way up it was quite common that on weekends and bank holidays there were slumps - because no new money was coming in.  On the way down this effect disappeared - but now we are back on an up trend aren't we?

With Dwolla Instant that effect will be lessened.

Dwolla Instant is a non-issue. They have already been overwhelmed and had to cut the service off. Another amateur move by dwolla, but did anyone see giving away free money as going well?

Regarding the slump...what slump? Bitcoin is double the price of last month.

That's true, but it's a little more than 4x less than the price 6 months ago.  Maybe this is a major reversal.  It isn't out of the question, but only time will tell.

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December 24, 2011, 08:09:14 AM
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So it seems that so many investors waited for the holiday slump that their bids cumulated into a critical mass.  But will the slump arrive?  I think it is still a possibility - after the investors spent the surplus money in the rally.
What is your sample size for this "Holiday Slump" effect?
I don't remember anything specific - but on the way up it was quite common that on weekends and bank holidays there were slumps - because no new money was coming in.  On the way down this effect disappeared - but now we are back on an up trend aren't we?

With Dwolla Instant that effect will be lessened.

Dwolla Instant is a non-issue. They have already been overwhelmed and had to cut the service off. Another amateur move by dwolla, but did anyone see giving away free money as going well?

Regarding the slump...what slump? Bitcoin is double the price of last month.

That's true, but it's a little more than 4x less than the price 6 months ago.  Maybe this is a major reversal.  It isn't out of the question, but only time will tell.

I would venture a theory that 6 months ago, the world got a little too excited and the price shouldn't have shot up to over 30.  Now we've got some balancing of the equation, so I would weight the fact that bitcoin is twice what it was a month ago more heavily than the fact that it's still down 75% from 6 months ago.

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