Previously hacked adroitful_one woke up and asked for $60 ... again ...

[Timelord2067]

Previously hacked adroitful_one woke up and asked for $60...

adroitful_one [BPIP] woke up and asked for $60

Their last post was on the 2020-06-29 a month after this (now locked) thread was started:
    
DO NOT TRADE WITH Adroitful_one! His account was Compromised!(FIXED) which was started by their "brother" - Devawnm367 [BPIP] (both users changed their passwords withing one week of each-other back in 2018)

Devawnm367 got slapped with a flag by @shasan for a loan default [here] [Flag] and had an alt exposed at that time hold-coins [BPIP] [Flag]

adroitful_one has given their "brother" Devawnm367 92 merit [BPIP] - Devawnm367 in turn has given their alt hold-coins 21 merit [BPIP] (hold-coins sent five merit back to their alt Devawnm367 [BPIP])

adroitful_one and Devawnm367 both DT trust each-other https://loyce.club/trust/2025-02-08_Sat_04.28h/407213.html


At the time of the "don't trade with..." thread, adroitful_one was sable to sign a message proving ownership using the wallet address 1GhxHtabWhEpdb7e7oEJ2vd542n33BwTHR which was on their profile page eight years ago [1] and as ccurrent as 2024-09-14 when this archive was taken [2]. (that archive suggests they were last online on February 08, 2021)

Currently, adroitful_one has the wallet address bc1qn9kcpklq6eh4hqxsvlewxm4llvvaem2gm593d0 [mempool] [ninja] posted on the profile page.  However, mempool shows there have been no transactions to the address, so I can't say for certain how long it has been on their profile page (but at a guess, they changed it when they woke up) and likewise, Ninja has not seen it either.

As one user observed at the time

Will do just busy at the moment. He called me and said people are making wierd post under his account redflag! I will update more when I know!

That's a tactic that's been used by hackers and scammers in the past.  Rather than changing the password, which would alert the owner the account has been hacked, they'll leave the settings untouched and just make posts, loan requests, send PMs, and hope the owner of the account doesn't notice.

adroitful_one started a thread Legendary Member looking for a loan of $60 for less than a week on 2018-09-14, seeking a $60 loan and wouldn't you know it eBay withheld their funds hence the loan.

2018:

I'm looking to borrow $60 until Wed. or Thur. I found a really nice camera at a pawn shop. It's a $350 camera and I can get it for less than 1/3 the price. I don't think they know what they have. I sold an item on ebay for $100, but for whatever reason, Ebay decided they wanted to hold the funds until 3 days after the user receives their item. They rarely ever do this to me. But, of course the one time I really need it, they decide to put it on hold. I will take that money from Ebay here in a few days and buy Bitcoin to pay you back. I'm really afraid someone else is going to get this camera before I get those funds. So I cam here asking to borrow $60. I will pay back $70 in BTC at current rates. I really don't think collateral in necessary for my rank and trading history, but I guess we can work something out if necessary. I will have the item shipped out to the people priority mail on Saturday. They should have it Monday or Tuesday at the latest. Then Ebay usually gives me my funds a day early. So somewhere around the Wed/Thur. mark i'll be returning payment. My signature campaign will be paying me twice within the next 10 days if all else fails. So i'll be able to repay the loan no problem. I really don't like having to do this, and rarely ever do. But I have always paid back my loan when I have(you can check my feedback). Please shoot me a pm if you can help. Thanks!

2025:

Looking to borrow like $60 until at most this next Friday..
Normally, I tend to avoid doing these things, but I recently got in to selling things online. That has actually been a lot better than expected. However, the problem I have now is Ebay holding my funds. I've had to pay out of pocket to cover all of the orders until the funds are released. What I'm doing is a form of dropshipping. So, I have to cover the cost of the orders until the funds are released. I used to have instant access to the funds, but I haven't sold anything on there in a couple years.

Anyways, to get to the point, my oil pump went out in my truck the other day so what I'm using to get to work is my motorcycle. But, it's gotten a hole in the tire. I've tried regular plugs, but they just pop out. I'm looking to borrow money to either try mushroom tire plugs(which i have heard work), or get a new tire. They're only $35 and then whatever it costs to have it put on the rim. Id like to try the mushroom plugs first and walmart has a mushroom plug kit. If not, I'd have enough money leftover out of this $60 to replace the tire.

I just need it for less than a week. Either when I get paid next Friday, or whenever ebay releases my funds.

I'll repay $70 because I know nobody wants to do this for free.

Thanks guys! You all have always come through for me in the past

adroitful_one 407213

Devawnm367 1713155

hold-coins 2339451


I suspect adroitful_one, his scamming "brother" Devawnm367 and the brother's alt hold-coins are one and the same (and adroitful_one *probably* never had their account hacked)

Devawnm367's account was unbanned on

Code:

2/24/2020 9:10:53 AM 	Profile unbanned 	New post
2/19/2020 9:37:51 PM 	Changed to Archived status 	Autoban user

Can anyone shed any light on why it was originally banned?

[shasan]

If Devawnm367  is the brother of adroitful_one then we may ask adroitful_one to repay the loan which his/her brother took from me and/or convince his/her brother to repay the loan which has been defaulted. Otherwise, as it is blood related relationship can we mark loan default as the person adroitful_one too as they are related to each other?
Note: I am sending a message to adroitful_one.
edit: message sent

[DireWolfM14]

If Devawnm367  is the brother of adroitful_one then we may ask adroitful_one to repay the loan which his/her brother took from me and/or convince his/her brother to repay the loan which has been defaulted. Otherwise, as it is blood related relationship can we mark loan default as the person adroitful_one too as they are related to each other?
Note: I am sending a message to adroitful_one.
edit: message sent

They are both grown men, you can't hold one brother accountable for the actions of the other.  Tagging the adroitful_one account for the actions of Devawnm367 would be an abuse of the trust system.

[Timelord2067]

Worth investigating.

I've been looking at some very old meriting activities from 2018 where ten or more merits were gifted to or from these three to other users who have since gone dark.

Both Flags supported.

[Zwei]

If Devawnm367  is the brother of adroitful_one then we may ask adroitful_one to repay the loan which his/her brother took from me and/or convince his/her brother to repay the loan which has been defaulted. Otherwise, as it is blood related relationship can we mark loan default as the person adroitful_one too as they are related to each other?
Note: I am sending a message to adroitful_one.
edit: message sent

if your brother defaulted a loan, would you want to be held accountable for it?

you can ask @adroitful_one if he wants to clear his brother debt, nothing wrong with that. but he has zero obligation to do that.
you can't tag him for the loan his brother defaulted just because they are blood related. (unless more evidence proves the two accounts belong to the same person, which is not the case atm)

[Timelord2067]

We've only got the word of a scammer (Devawnm367) that adroitful_one is their brother and not actually their alt as is the case with hold-coins.

There has been no trust feedback (good, bad or indifferent) slapped on any of these three UID's since the one year old loan default was reported by shasan last year.

I'm prepared to keep my powder dry for the duration - lets see what response shasan receives.

[Wiwo]

I saw the loan request thread yesterday and I was what the heck is this guy thinking, waking up after a long period of dozing and the first post is a loan request this shows that the account may have changed hands again and looking for a way to take an exit loan from unsuspecting forum members, the person controlling that account must be a newbie that doesn't know a thing about the forum and how things work over here as regards to trust reviews and how it helps to get whatever you want here in the forum, to say that the account is not in any active campaign to begin with aside the bad trust.

Timelord2067 nice observation and thank you for bringing this up here, I wanted to do the same but I was too lazy to create the thread when I first saw the thread last night.

Flag supported at least leaving a neutral trust for this is appropriate.

[examplens]

We've only got the word of a scammer (Devawnm367) that adroitful_one is their brother and not actually their alt as is the case with hold-coins.

There has been no trust feedback (good, bad or indifferent) slapped on any of these three UID's since the one year old loan default was reported by shasan last year.

This is the most common excuse when it comes to situations like this. If they are brothers, they surely know that one of them incurred a debt that he did not pay. It's quite rude to come here again and ask for money, knowing that the "brother" has defaulted on the debt. Maybe he has no obligation to repay his brother's debt, but it is certainly impudence to ask for a new loan.

[shasan]

They are both grown men, you can't hold one brother accountable for the actions of the other.  Tagging the adroitful_one account for the actions of Devawnm367 would be an abuse of the trust system.

Good point, I will try my best to find out anything that might be related to each other. Also, I will send adroitful_one private message if the user can help me or not to recover the loan. If it is that will be okay if not that would be acceptable as well. I do not want to abuse the trust system also do not want that anyone abuse the trust system as well.

[JollyGood]

There is always a possibility this is all a drama created to misdirect and the accounts are being controlled by the same person. If they are not operated by the same person it seems pointless adding a negative tag to account that did not default, maybe adding a neutral stating the relationship to the loan defaulter would be an appropriate option.

If Devawnm367  is the brother of adroitful_one then we may ask adroitful_one to repay the loan which his/her brother took from me and/or convince his/her brother to repay the loan which has been defaulted. Otherwise, as it is blood related relationship can we mark loan default as the person adroitful_one too as they are related to each other?
Note: I am sending a message to adroitful_one.
edit: message sent

[shasan]

There is always a possibility this is all a drama created to misdirect and the accounts are being controlled by the same person. If they are not operated by the same person it seems pointless adding a negative tag to account that did not default, maybe adding a neutral stating the relationship to the loan defaulter would be an appropriate option.

You are correct and I agree with you. Those who maintain multiple account as farming (only to participate bounty/signature camapaign/raffle etc usually bgide their identity and also try hard so that no-one can be able to identify them using multiple account. When there is any clue they try to say something like brother/friend only few users who have used a wallet or something like that proved as multi account.