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February 09, 2025, 02:19:58 PM
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No one in their right mind doubts that Excimer is a troll.

And I put this case as over time I have seen others but at some point they get tired and leave. In the case of Excimer we only have to take a look at his threads:

Excimer's Meritsource Position Application

Tell me if it is not trolling that request in that it has not followed the rules imposed by theymos.

What about this one?

All questions to me. I am Excimer


Which he self-moderately created and in which he deleted all posts except his own.

I could give many more examples, but I wonder: is there anything positive that he is contributing to the forum? I don't think so.

I sounds to me that rule 3 used to be enforced, many years ago, but it hasn't been enforced for a long time now. Did anyone experience this or know why?

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February 09, 2025, 02:32:02 PM
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There was a popular troll called TOAA and many people were trying to make him to get banned Requesting a permanent ban for The-One-Above-All

Not sure if he get banned or not, but as I can see on BPIP, he didn't get permanent ban.

Unfortunately temporary ban history not recorded on BPIP.

Did anyone experience this or know why?
It's about the traffic, currently the forum lack of new traffic unlike during ICO pumps.


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February 09, 2025, 02:35:23 PM
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For me, he is very harmless. There are many other evil and vengeful guys on the forum, but this one with his sometimes naive jokes dilutes the forum with his presence. I do not see any harm or evil in him.

 
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February 09, 2025, 02:38:11 PM
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AFAIK, there have been some members that have been banned before for trolling. One of them was the Bitcoin Satoshi Vision guy, and then I also remember game-protect. Here is what I think why action might have not been taken yet;

1. Maybe no one has yet reported him to the moderators about his trolling
2. Maybe someone has reported but hasn't made an extensive report showing how he has been trolling around over time

This is what I saw in the FAQ

Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

 
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February 09, 2025, 03:23:32 PM
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Tell me if it is not trolling that request in that it has not followed the rules imposed by theymos.
Trolling is not allowed but maybe at too very high level, intensity and repeatedly.

game-protect is a very classic troller against many casinos, and Bitcoin forum members. He was not banned until he tried to troll and attack theymos invididually for a few times.

This troller can be banned if he continues and moderators have more reports about this trolling case.

 
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February 09, 2025, 03:55:29 PM
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Our friend has fought back:

These trolls calling me a troll

He doesn't seem to have much of a life does he?

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

Good point. According to that, what Excimer does is not the kind of trolling that gets him banned. At least his activity lately consists of trolling forum-related issues.


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February 09, 2025, 04:04:28 PM
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Entertainment value?

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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Entertainment value?

I agree with the entertainment part, but not the value one.

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February 09, 2025, 05:25:49 PM
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I think many just leave to do his thing
Because most times he's on his personal thread stating his mind.
Though flawed, atleast he isn't actively affecting the forum
The best is to ignore him and his thread.
I go there sometimes and usually get some laughs from the things he says.

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February 09, 2025, 05:54:19 PM
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Good point. According to that, what Excimer does is not the kind of trolling that gets him banned. At least his activity lately consists of trolling forum-related issues.
Yeah, however if they continue like this, it is safe to say that they might be banned sooner or later for trolling. In the meantime the only sensible solution is to ignore such a user, as you can see they already got themself a new thread because of this one. I can only imagine that if their topics have little or no replies, they'll get tired eventually, it could take sometime, but that'll happen.

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February 09, 2025, 06:42:33 PM
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I think many just leave to do his thing
Because most times he's on his personal thread stating his mind.
Though flawed, atleast he isn't actively affecting the forum
The best is to ignore him and his thread.
I go there sometimes and usually get some laughs from the things he says.
I agree with this because if you don't ignore someone then that someone would always comes back to do more or do the the same thing again. As we can see, since he saw this thread and now created new one defending himself so it will only create more of this. If he is proven to be trolling by mods then I think he will be banned since we know that mods doesn't have time to check all the source of the post ti determine if it's trolling or not when it comes from another forum member through reporting of the post. Trolls would surely be banned sooner or later when proven as I have explained.

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There was a popular troll called TOAA and many people were trying to make him to get banned Requesting a permanent ban for The-One-Above-All

Man, it feels so long ago. Remember when cryptohunter used to flood this board with alts?

But it goes on to say that trolls will get bored of trolling and move on with their lives, but only if you don't feed them.

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February 09, 2025, 07:12:01 PM
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Man, it feels so long ago. Remember when cryptohunter used to flood this board with alts?
But it goes on to say that trolls will get bored of trolling and move on with their lives, but only if you don't feed them.
I was just on the way to write about that , TOAA was one of his Alt Accounts , but to be honest i and the most are dont miss cryptohunter.
Fully agree with that , that when you dont feed them at some stage the trolls will be getting annoyed from that.

@Free Market Capitalist , just put them or him on your Ignore List and enjoy the silence after that.
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February 09, 2025, 08:56:49 PM
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I always wonder what's his motive behind what he does around the forum. The guy has a -7 on his trust page, doesn't get enough attention (at least, I thought so before you created this thread), getting no incentives from the forum since he can't join campaigns or get private offers based on his reputation, but he still keeps going. Such people will sometimes make you feel that maybe they are not actually mentally stable in real life, so they find such things to be normal because they could be doing anything in the world, but they choose to waste their time this way, and for what?

That being said, I believe the best solution is what @Lafu has suggested; simply ignore him and don't make him realize that he is getting attention because that might motivate him even more to continue with his activities that he might find useful but they are not. Smiley

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February 09, 2025, 11:11:14 PM
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I remember when he trolled me for a harmless mixer return thread I made. He took it so personal and created a thread for it. He creates self moderated for everything so that he can troll and moderate others. I was sad at first, but when I saw multiple of his threads in reputation board, I knew he is sick or something.

But, I don't wish he should be banned. Sometimes the forum becomes so boring that you will like his type of people to entertain us. He said LoyceV is a troll Grin

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February 09, 2025, 11:58:36 PM
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But it goes on to say that trolls will get bored of trolling and move on with their lives, but only if you don't feed them.
When he receives the attention. The more he will get the energy to continue trolling. Ignoring him will indeed do wonders in the long run. Members just have to make sure they don't interact with him or open any thread giving him attention.

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February 10, 2025, 01:17:21 AM
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AFAIK, there have been some members that have been banned before for trolling. One of them was the Bitcoin Satoshi Vision guy

LOL yeah about that...

Bitcoin SV is the same person as Excimer, also known as korner and a bunch of other accounts.

So it isn't just rule #3 but also rule #25 that is being blatantly ignored by the mods, and he knows and abuses that fact.
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February 10, 2025, 04:33:28 AM
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LOL yeah about that...

Bitcoin SV is the same person as Excimer, also known as korner and a bunch of other accounts.

So it isn't just rule #3 but also rule #25 that is being blatantly ignored by the mods, and he knows and abuses that fact.

It sounded to me like I'd seen nutildah's thread, now that you mention it, but I hadn't connected Excimer to one of the BitcoinSV alts. That would be a good reason to ban him but if they haven't done it by now it looks to me like it's going to happen like naim027.

The only thing that's clear to me from all this is that this guy doesn't have a life.

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February 10, 2025, 11:03:06 AM
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It’s probably best to just ignore him—not totally ignore, but let the moderators do their job and not pay attention anymore to this user. Because look when you made a thread like this, they just craved more attention. He even made a thread about your post. Look at reputation board right now he flooded it.

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February 10, 2025, 11:05:53 AM
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Since trolls don't get banned, and they feed on attention, I just click Ignore. But that's not for everyone: I don't get why people are still posting in self-moderated topics when the warning on top shows all 25 posts have been deleted.

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