Inoue vs Davis, [BOXING]

[Darker45]

If the odds are worth it I might just chose Inoue just to see if I can triple a small amount.

Triple? Your bet on Naoya versus Davis will triple? Do you mean Naoya's odds will be 3.00? Against Davis? Are you serious?

I'm speaking hypothetically since I don't see this match happening, ever. But supposing these two will meet in their prime without compromising so much, I mean supposing they both naturally belong to the same weight class, do you think Davis will be the heavy favorite? I don't think so.

Although both have powers and could knock each other out, Naoya is more of a complete package than Davis. Again, if only they belong to the same weight class and they will fight, I believe Naoya will be the favorite. He'll probably be 1.40 or 1.50 favorite.

There's a reason why Naoya is ranked much much higher than Davis in pound-for-pound rankings. Davis didn't even make it to the top 10 in the rankings of certain boxing organizations.

[Maslate]

Inoue is far superior to Davis on almost every level. Inoue has been undisputed in two weight classes while Davis was getting his world titles emailed to him. Davis should be fighting the best guys in his division like Shakur Stevenson and Keyshawn Davis. He is instead fighting a smaller guy in Roach.

This is the only post I’ve seen where someone believes Inoue is superior to Davis, since most of us probably think Davis is the better fighter. I’m not sure how they’ll make it happen, but to be fair to both, they should meet at a catchweight, so no excuses after the fight, and the long wait will finally be over. It’s still a bit early, but we know Inoue is considering moving up, and that puts him close to Tank, especially if Tank stays in his current division where he’s already a champion.

[FinneysTrueVision]

This is the only post I’ve seen where someone believes Inoue is superior to Davis, since most of us probably think Davis is the better fighter. I’m not sure how they’ll make it happen, but to be fair to both, they should meet at a catchweight, so no excuses after the fight, and the long wait will finally be over. It’s still a bit early, but we know Inoue is considering moving up, and that puts him close to Tank, especially if Tank stays in his current division where he’s already a champion.

It’s not only me who believes this, any pound for pound list will have Inoue much higher than Tank. Inoue is the more accomplished fighter. He is also very dominant. Tank Davis loses rounds against limited one dimensional fighters like Rolly Romero and Pitbull Cruz. When comparing their qualities, I can’t see Tank as being better in anything except knockout power. That alone has gotten him very far and made him a star, but there’s a reason why he avoided Loma and Haney for a long time, and is currently avoiding Shakur.

[Yaunfitda]

Inoue is far superior to Davis on almost every level. Inoue has been undisputed in two weight classes while Davis was getting his world titles emailed to him. Davis should be fighting the best guys in his division like Shakur Stevenson and Keyshawn Davis. He is instead fighting a smaller guy in Roach.

This is the only post I’ve seen where someone believes Inoue is superior to Davis, since most of us probably think Davis is the better fighter. I’m not sure how they’ll make it happen, but to be fair to both, they should meet at a catchweight, so no excuses after the fight, and the long wait will finally be over. It’s still a bit early, but we know Inoue is considering moving up, and that puts him close to Tank, especially if Tank stays in his current division where he’s already a champion.

Perhaps we was talking about Inoue's overall accomplished, as compare to Tank,

a. Inoue has been unified in 2 weight classes, bantamweight and super bantamweight. Tank hasn't done that in his career
b. Inoue has superior resume with many champions that he has face, while Tank's resume is weak, did fought Ryan but in a catch weight
b. higher in pound for pound list

But we will have to see how Inoue will be in the next weight class at 126 lbs, maybe he could unify it and become the first boxer to do it in 3 different weight classes.

[bittraffic]

If the odds are worth it I might just chose Inoue just to see if I can triple a small amount.

Triple? Your bet on Naoya versus Davis will triple? Do you mean Naoya's odds will be 3.00? Against Davis? Are you serious?

I'm speaking hypothetically since I don't see this match happening, ever. But supposing these two will meet in their prime without compromising so much, I mean supposing they both naturally belong to the same weight class, do you think Davis will be the heavy favorite? I don't think so.

Although both have powers and could knock each other out, Naoya is more of a complete package than Davis. Again, if only they belong to the same weight class and they will fight, I believe Naoya will be the favorite. He'll probably be 1.40 or 1.50 favorite.

There's a reason why Naoya is ranked much much higher than Davis in pound-for-pound rankings. Davis didn't even make it to the top 10 in the rankings of certain boxing organizations.

Are you sure?
Naoya is just peony compare to Tank. Have you seen how Tank can just dodge a strike in a close range while Naoya had to back away or cover both hands to secure his chin?

He is no match to Tank considering he has to climb a weight. He nearly got up when Nery knock him down. Of course we may not find out yet since they are not fighting but he is likely 3.00. Its embarrassing for him that even if Tank go down his weight class, he may still be the underdog.

[TravelMug]

If the odds are worth it I might just chose Inoue just to see if I can triple a small amount.

Triple? Your bet on Naoya versus Davis will triple? Do you mean Naoya's odds will be 3.00? Against Davis? Are you serious?

I'm speaking hypothetically since I don't see this match happening, ever. But supposing these two will meet in their prime without compromising so much, I mean supposing they both naturally belong to the same weight class, do you think Davis will be the heavy favorite? I don't think so.

Although both have powers and could knock each other out, Naoya is more of a complete package than Davis. Again, if only they belong to the same weight class and they will fight, I believe Naoya will be the favorite. He'll probably be 1.40 or 1.50 favorite.

There's a reason why Naoya is ranked much much higher than Davis in pound-for-pound rankings. Davis didn't even make it to the top 10 in the rankings of certain boxing organizations.

Are you sure?
Naoya is just peony compare to Tank. Have you seen how Tank can just dodge a strike in a close range while Naoya had to back away or cover both hands to secure his chin?

He is no match to Tank considering he has to climb a weight. He nearly got up when Nery knock him down. Of course we may not find out yet since they are not fighting but he is likely 3.00. Its embarrassing for him that even if Tank go down his weight class, he may still be the underdog.

Not siding to anyone of your arguments, but for me, I do not see him like going to be a 3:1 underdog is this fight happens. Assuming that both are still undefeated, Inoue just steam rolling the 126-130 lbs and become a champion but continuing to knockout his champion opponents.

But for sure Inoue will be the underdog in this fight and odd makers will see Tank as the bigger guy.

Nevertheless it could be a very close fight as both had power, but I will give Tank the boxing IQ as he can make the right adjustment during the fight and maybe setting traps along the way for Inoue to fall later.

[Sanitough]

Are you sure?
Naoya is just peony compare to Tank. Have you seen how Tank can just dodge a strike in a close range while Naoya had to back away or cover both hands to secure his chin?

He is no match to Tank considering he has to climb a weight. He nearly got up when Nery knock him down. Of course we may not find out yet since they are not fighting but he is likely 3.00. Its embarrassing for him that even if Tank go down his weight class, he may still be the underdog.

This is good, we all have our own takes, which just shows how familiar we are with these fighters. The comparison is solid, both are great, but so far, Inoue has already become an undisputed champion in his division, something I don’t think Tank Davis has accomplished yet.

But if we compare the two, of course, Davis has the edge since he’s naturally bigger. However, if they meet at the right weight, a catchweight, then we might actually see a true 50-50 fight. That would be the fairest way to make it happen.

[Jating]

Are you sure?
Naoya is just peony compare to Tank. Have you seen how Tank can just dodge a strike in a close range while Naoya had to back away or cover both hands to secure his chin?

He is no match to Tank considering he has to climb a weight. He nearly got up when Nery knock him down. Of course we may not find out yet since they are not fighting but he is likely 3.00. Its embarrassing for him that even if Tank go down his weight class, he may still be the underdog.

This is good, we all have our own takes, which just shows how familiar we are with these fighters. The comparison is solid, both are great, but so far, Inoue has already become an undisputed champion in his division, something I don’t think Tank Davis has accomplished yet.

But if we compare the two, of course, Davis has the edge since he’s naturally bigger. However, if they meet at the right weight, a catchweight, then we might actually see a true 50-50 fight. That would be the fairest way to make it happen.

I don't think that Davis though, with his advisers are willing to fight in a catch weight. They will take all the advantage that they can, and him the bigger guy, he will just say that he can't go down in weight or even go up, it should be at 135 lbs, his fighting weight.

There are really a lot of great comparison between the two, like the quality of their opponent and the belts that they have won. And with that, the only deciding factor that Davis will be the favorite here is that he is the natural bigger guy and so this is his comfort zone. While Inoue will have to make a lot of adjustment like making the weight and really trying to be bulky to become a 135 lbs and it might have a effect on his body.

[jstyler]

idk about a catch weight, but if they fight at 135, inoue already proved he can make weight, no problem for him, davis has the size advantage but inoue's speed and power are what make him a threat, very interesting fight either way

[bisdak40]

idk about a catch weight, but if they fight at 135, inoue already proved he can make weight, no problem for him, davis has the size advantage but inoue's speed and power are what make him a threat, very interesting fight either way

A fight at 135? That would be a big mistake on Team Inoue. Tank Davis is fighting in this weight division comfortably for a while now and Inoue is just fighting in the super bantamweight division, three division lower on that of Davis. I don't think that Inoue would carry his power and speed at lightweight abruptly, he needs to fight one division higher at a time so i don't think that Davis vs Inoue would happen without a catchweight.

[Darker45]

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Are you sure?
Naoya is just peony compare to Tank. Have you seen how Tank can just dodge a strike in a close range while Naoya had to back away or cover both hands to secure his chin?

He is no match to Tank considering he has to climb a weight. He nearly got up when Nery knock him down. Of course we may not find out yet since they are not fighting but he is likely 3.00. Its embarrassing for him that even if Tank go down his weight class, he may still be the underdog.

Peony? What does that even mean?

Anyway, again, I'm not speaking of an actual match. I'm only speaking hypothetically. I don't believe the two will ever meet inside the ring. Naoya won't arrive at 135-140 soon. He's still at 122 now. He'll stay there for a while. That's his heaviest so far. As soon as he gets at 140, Tank must have already gone up. Not to mention that Naoya is already going 32.

If the fight actually takes place and Naoya is forced to climb up to meet Tank, the latter will probably win. Tank will be the favorite, of course. But if Tank is the one who goes down to meet Naoya, say, at 130, then Tank might be the underdog. He'll be fighting emaciated.

The reason why we're arguing is that Naoya and Tank don't belong to the same weight class, but people are trying to make them meet. That's impractical, unreasonable. Tank is not yet even fighting against high-caliber fighters in his class. The man is avoiding stronger opponents.

[serjent05]

But if we compare the two, of course, Davis has the edge since he’s naturally bigger. However, if they meet at the right weight, a catchweight, then we might actually see a true 50-50 fight. That would be the fairest way to make it happen.

Catchweight is often favorable to the smaller boxer because he doesn't have to exhaust himself to meet the weight.  I don't even think it is a  true 50-50 fight, here is why

Davis will still have the advantage if he is comfortable with the weight limit of the catchweight. Since Davis is the bigger boxer and still comfortable with the catchweight weight requirement, he can still exert his full power.  The only way Inoue will have an advantage in this catchweight is if Davis needs to exhaust himself to meet the required weight. Thus it can never be a true 50-50 fights since one way or another one will have the advantage over the other...

[Kemarit]

But if we compare the two, of course, Davis has the edge since he’s naturally bigger. However, if they meet at the right weight, a catchweight, then we might actually see a true 50-50 fight. That would be the fairest way to make it happen.

Catchweight is often favorable to the smaller boxer because he doesn't have to exhaust himself to meet the weight.  I don't even think it is a  true 50-50 fight, here is why

Davis will still have the advantage if he is comfortable with the weight limit of the catchweight. Since Davis is the bigger boxer and still comfortable with the catchweight weight requirement, he can still exert his full power.  The only way Inoue will have an advantage in this catchweight is if Davis needs to exhaust himself to meet the required weight. Thus it can never be a true 50-50 fights since one way or another one will have the advantage over the other...

But I do not see Tank willing to give in to a catch weight, sure he can claim that he is the bigger guy, but he would tell the camp of Inoue to just go and move to 135 lbs and fight him. And there are numbers that says Inoue rehydrated to more than 135 lbs during his fight. So from 122 lbs weigh-in, he could go as high as 130++ lbs.

So it's really possible for him to go up as high as 135 lbs I reckon. I initially though that 130 lbs might be too much for him though. But if he can balloon to 135 lbs after the weigh in and rehydrating himself, then this fight could be possible without any catchweight.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1i8xh4f/naoya_inoue_and_opponent_rehydration/

[Sanitough]

But if we compare the two, of course, Davis has the edge since he’s naturally bigger. However, if they meet at the right weight, a catchweight, then we might actually see a true 50-50 fight. That would be the fairest way to make it happen.

Catchweight is often favorable to the smaller boxer because he doesn't have to exhaust himself to meet the weight.  I don't even think it is a  true 50-50 fight, here is why

Davis will still have the advantage if he is comfortable with the weight limit of the catchweight. Since Davis is the bigger boxer and still comfortable with the catchweight weight requirement, he can still exert his full power.  The only way Inoue will have an advantage in this catchweight is if Davis needs to exhaust himself to meet the required weight. Thus it can never be a true 50-50 fights since one way or another one will have the advantage over the other...

It’s 50-50 if both fighters agree, after all, no boxer would accept a fight knowing he has no chance to win. Naturally, it might favor the smaller fighter, but it really depends on the situation. Either way, let them decide on the terms. As long as they make the fight happen, that’s all that matters to us fans.

[Jating]

But if we compare the two, of course, Davis has the edge since he’s naturally bigger. However, if they meet at the right weight, a catchweight, then we might actually see a true 50-50 fight. That would be the fairest way to make it happen.

Catchweight is often favorable to the smaller boxer because he doesn't have to exhaust himself to meet the weight.  I don't even think it is a  true 50-50 fight, here is why

Davis will still have the advantage if he is comfortable with the weight limit of the catchweight. Since Davis is the bigger boxer and still comfortable with the catchweight weight requirement, he can still exert his full power.  The only way Inoue will have an advantage in this catchweight is if Davis needs to exhaust himself to meet the required weight. Thus it can never be a true 50-50 fights since one way or another one will have the advantage over the other...

It’s 50-50 if both fighters agree, after all, no boxer would accept a fight knowing he has no chance to win. Naturally, it might favor the smaller fighter, but it really depends on the situation. Either way, let them decide on the terms. As long as they make the fight happen, that’s all that matters to us fans.

Just like what Manny did in his career, he had fights that is in the catch weight and the other side agree to that. And maybe they think that they still have the advantage knowing that they are the natural bigger guy and that they can still go and fight or weigh in less than like 2 lbs and then rehydrate fight night. But we have heard fighters as well saying that it's very hard to compromise a weight that their body is not used to.

Anyhow, I would agree that still up to them to decide which terms or which one is going to give in as someone will have to dictate even if the both boxers are undefeated and a great champion. If it is in a catch weight then so be it, unless fans are going to see a great fight between this two power punchers.

[Distinctin]

after Davis fight last night, do you believe Inoue has an edge over him already?

[Hirose UK]

after Davis fight last night, do you believe Inoue has an edge over him already?

Seeing Tank fight really looked out of the ordinary, he really had more difficulty landing his punches and Lamont Roach actually dominated in several rounds, the final result was draw by majority decision and this result was also considered controversial by many people because they thought Lamont Roach should have win, in his record this is the only draw.
Tank must prepare himself by training harder to be able to fight well against Inoue because it is clear that Inoue can be more dangerous than Lamont Roach, if in the fight against Inoue Tank appearance is still the same as this then it will also have the opportunity to be Tank lost.

[Botnake]

after Davis fight last night, do you believe Inoue has an edge over him already?

There’s a big chance Inoue can beat Davis, especially after Davis looked exposed against Lamont Roach. I wouldn’t be surprised if Inoue’s camp sees that and tries to negotiate a catchweight fight to test if Inoue’s power is enough to knock Davis out.

depsite what happened in his last fight, Davis is still a superstar, so this matchup would generate massive hype, especially if fans see it as a 50-50 fight. If this happens, it’s going to be one of the most exciting boxing events in years.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

after Davis fight last night, do you believe Inoue has an edge over him already?

There’s a big chance Inoue can beat Davis, especially after Davis looked exposed against Lamont Roach. I wouldn’t be surprised if Inoue’s camp sees that and tries to negotiate a catchweight fight to test if Inoue’s power is enough to knock Davis out.

depsite what happened in his last fight, Davis is still a superstar, so this matchup would generate massive hype, especially if fans see it as a 50-50 fight. If this happens, it’s going to be one of the most exciting boxing events in years.

Yes, with this kind of performance, the hope of Inoue betting Davis might have multiplied already. It could still be a 50-50 fight if it will happen in this year as Tank might still have the thoughts of this fight and we fans think that he has lost against a 130 lbs in Lamont Roach.

But this fight is still fantasy though, Inoue will have to clear 126 lbs first and then go up to 130 lbs and it might take sometime for him.

Although there is already a name that has surface already that Inoue will fight in the US at his maiden 126 lbs.

[stadus]

depsite what happened in his last fight, Davis is still a superstar, so this matchup would generate massive hype, especially if fans see it as a 50-50 fight. If this happens, it’s going to be one of the most exciting boxing events in years.

People will forget about this if Davis delivers a dominant win in his next fight. But if he really wants to make a statement, he should fight a big-name opponent, maybe Inoue?

Of course, all of this is just speculation for now since Davis hasn’t said anything about fighting Inoue. Maybe he thinks Inoue is too small or doesn’t want to drain himself by cutting weight. For now, let’s cool down on the speculation... fans are still busy debating whether Roach got robbed against Tank Davis.