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February 15, 2025, 04:40:51 AM
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I do not think that everyone who voted for the current POTUS believes everything he says - it would be difficult to believe. We are where we are because the Democrats failed spetacularly at reading the electorate and put all the effort in promoting those things that are precisely not that popular among many.

But the US people understand that now is time for Trumpstuff and will have to bear with it. By this time, everyone is expecting that at least some of the politics have some short of success and some -  even if little - of the promised stuff happens.

As for the world... look, this may actually be positive. The world has grown used to have a reliable US in the sense of reasonably predictable, but now we are facing an scenario that will force most countries to adapt. The future may bring less dependency from the US and there actually could be a "multipolar" world as Putin's propaganda claims.
I don't know if his voters even follow the news, but i just have to assume that they do, and knew what they were doing. Anything less would be patronizing. So i am assuming that they perfectly well knew, that they ordered fascism to take over democracy.

What comes to rest of the world. I agree that we need to cut some ties to unreliable allies. So far we have placed way too much trust on free trade, because that was self stabilizing concept and beneficial for everyone. But just one broken wheel on that system breaks the supply chain, and many of us (US included) will see how much we actually needed those working and fast supply chains.
o48o, the news is biased. Some people will vote Republican/Democrat no matter what and we don't have ranked choice when voting so choosing someone outside of those parties can backfire.

Fascism doesn't feel like fascism when you think you are getting what you want or when it's only "other people" who are suffering.

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February 16, 2025, 09:41:03 PM
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Anyone noticed how Trump botched the peace deal in Gaza?


There's a lot to consider. But when you have the weight that Trump has, you can make all kinds of changes. In other words, 'botched' is too early to tell.



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February 16, 2025, 11:12:33 PM
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I don't watch broadcast news (I read, although I am not educated).  I make an extra effort not watch Fox news but when it comes to Trump I have to (from time to time) because their bias is for him so I feel the need for their perspective.

The things he is saying and doing are so wild to me that I want to make sure it's not deep faked.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VOVGVxLmrP4    (pissedmagistus  90 seconds)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07UtZXVg_ks&ab_channel=FoxNews

Trump is serious about:
Canada becoming the 51st state, buying Greenland, renaming the gulf of Mexico, privatizing the postal service, taking back the Panama Canal, building housing for Palestinians somewhere else: it will be so great that they won't care that they're not allowed to go back?
And putting Christianity back into America --> absolutely counter to our constitution's 1st Amendment.
He won by a majority vote, we can't even blame the electorate, yet he still wants to cast dispersions on how many votes Kamala got.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/president-trump-announces-appointments-to-the-white-house-faith-office/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOuiApOnbw&ab_channel=TheDailyShow     ("we are terrible friends" and "who the hell made these terrible deals"  Shocked Huh Cheesy 20 mins)

P.S. let's just invite a Nazi saluting billionaire  to head an agency named after (my favorite) meme coin to access American's financial data while subverting democratic processes.
P.S. He pardoned the seditionists capitol rioters and wants to prosecute the January 6th commission.

All of this because he wants to put "America 1st".

I just don't have words to express how I feel about the state of my country right now.

How are we to be taken seriously in the global community?
Although this is serious, not just for my country.

We are at 89 seconds to midnight.
Honestly, it's insanity. I could post a text wall about his insanity, lies and creepiness. But it's not even the absurdity of that banal man that bothers me. It's the fact that huge part of USA sees that convicted creepy white criminal, with a mental decline as a more popular choice then an educated and competent colored woman. The whole attitude and culture creeps me out, because it's often leaking in here as well.

And it's not the USA, as a country people aren't taking seriously around the world, it's republicans and maga-people who we openly ridicule.
Only thing why most leaders aren't openly laughing at trump, is because we live in the same planet and we have to get along (as long as they are leaders chosen by democracy).
And since USA seems to be into fascism now, attitude might take a turn to even worse later on.

Also, because trump is just too petty and volatile, leaders avoid making openly fun of him, so we speak in a way, that trump or trump minions don't have a capacity to understand the undertones of.

But more then laughter, everywhere i look, i see anger. People have started to boycott pro-trump companies like X and Meta. X links are being banned or frowned on, or even banned in many cases. And tesla owners, who bought them before this, are now embarrassed to drive with them. And that's just a scratch of a surface.

I do not think that everyone who voted for the current POTUS believes everything he says - it would be difficult to believe. We are where we are because the Democrats failed spetacularly at reading the electorate and put all the effort in promoting those things that are precisely not that popular among many.

But the US people understand that now is time for Trumpstuff and will have to bear with it. By this time, everyone is expecting that at least some of the politics have some short of success and some -  even if little - of the promised stuff happens.

As for the world... look, this may actually be positive. The world has grown used to have a reliable US in the sense of reasonably predictable, but now we are facing an scenario that will force most countries to adapt. The future may bring less dependency from the US and there actually could be a "multipolar" world as Putin's propaganda claims.

Paxmao, no one believes politicians and unfortunately we've come to accept their fecklessness. Trump on the other hand has been very effective in playing the American people against each other.

I'm not sure how accurate this link regarding the Saudi's considering a rebuild of Gaza but it is an interesting clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ev5KIU59Q&ab_channel=Reuters


Absolutely, Trump's team have been masters at creating fight and choosing the battleground, that is, deciding which topics matter and creating an state of alarm about them.

Good clip about the Saudis. The situation is quite difficult:

a) Let's be honest: nobody likes the Palestinians, and do not get me wrong, they are just like any other people, nothing wrong with them, but they are poor and many are radicalised. Not even their Arab or Middle Eastern neighbourgs want them around.
b) Palestina is under a strong Iranian influence - not just with the links with Hamas, but also the Hezbola militias operating inside Libanon, etc...

It could be a possible strategy for the Saudis to try take the area for political influence against Iran, but let's make no mistake: the Saudis are Arabic Supremacists. They only marry among "pure Arabs" and in their country there is a very clearly stablished "chaste" system, with them at the top, the "imported" Europeans and Occidentals in the middle and then all the rest (Pakistan, Filipino, ....)

Nobody should bear any doubt of the consideration that the Saudis will give Palestinians withing their "system".

Anyway, much better than being deported and loosing your ancestral lands.
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