Balancing our Personal Believes, Religion and Gambling

[Doan9269]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opportuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will he accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Be informed that this is a general discussion, not a threat to take attacks on each other, drop your own perspective and state some reasons to back them up, let's make it more of being fun and informative with our actual facts.

[Agbamoni]

In a society where gambling is not seen as a bad attitude or easily discriminated it wont matter. It will only matter when anyone gambling is discriminated. Gambling is not devilish its only a means of maling extra money so i dont see anything wrong with. Sometimes i ask my self wat is it that made people hate those who gamble so much? Perhaps itis the reaction of the gambler after losing or winning that is being discriminated not gambling itself.

[CroverNo01]

In a society where gambling is not seen as a bad attitude or easily discriminated it wont matter. It will only matter when anyone gambling is discriminated. Gambling is not devilish its only a means of maling extra money so i dont see anything wrong with. Sometimes i ask my self wat is it that made people hate those who gamble so much? Perhaps itis the reaction of the gambler after losing or winning that is being discriminated not gambling itself.

What's good and bad? We're grown-up men and women and perfectly understand the system. We abide by rules and amend our steps towards the adaption of these essential factors. Before anticipating in gambling, we take leap of faith because the system is unpredictable, one could be smiling and the next moment, you see frown faces. I would kindly advised anyone not to place full hope towards gambling because the system has a way of ruining the lives of people, I've encounter several lives and properties lost due to debts. These are addicted category of people, they can't do without placing wager on games and will do everything within their reach to ensure they raise money just to gamble.

[Hirose UK]

Money is very valuable value and anyone who is not free from the influence of religion, economy or politics will definitely want to get money in any amount, especially if it is obtained for free, the conclusion is whether it is priest or religious leader from several religions that exist when given money for the purpose of sacrifice or charity will definitely accept it even though the money is the result of activities that are considered less good because with that amount of money it will greatly help and whether it can be accepted as form of sacrifice by God or not is not the task of the priest or religious leader because they are only carrying out their duties.
Moreover, those who record the good and bad and whether or not each person charity is accepted are not priests and religious leaders, they are still the same as us ordinary people but have broader knowledge and knowledge about religion and their job is only to bring and invite goodness to others.

[Wexnident]

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Hmm I'd say what the clergy did was okay? Cause technically speaking if they rejected every money that was of dirty source, I reckon they'd reject anything but freshly minted ones from the bank cause every bill that we have inevitably came (or touched) something dirty (from their standards).

And I believe there's no explanation for it except for it being well, religion. It may stem from a story from their holy book or whatnot but I believe that is enough as it is as an explanation. After all, it's called a religion for a reason.

[Solosanz]

There's a difference between gambling considered as a sin but not prohibited and gambling is prohibited.

In Cristian, gambling isn't explicitly prohibited, but it's just a sin, so Christian people are allowed to gamble. So, in @OP case, there's nothing wrong to share the winnings to Church because Christian people are required to share 10% of their monthly income which called as tithe.

This is difference with Islam, you're not allowed to gamble and there's no thing like if you share your winnings, you will be forgiven. No, it will be considered as haram and you will not get any merit, even you donate $1 Billion, it's still haram.

Hmm I'd say what the clergy did was okay? Cause technically speaking if they rejected every money that was of dirty source, I reckon they'd reject anything but freshly minted ones from the bank cause every bill that we have inevitably came (or touched) something dirty (from their standards).

They only care with the latest source, they don't care with the second person, third person etc the way the previous people got the money.

[Nothingtodo]

If someone can control themselves and become addicted to gambling, then gambling cannot have a bad influence on them in any way. However, you must have the ability to control it, otherwise, if you become uncontrolled within yourself, it will definitely have a bad impact on your personal life.
Gambling is bound up with various opinions in religious sentiments. The Muslim religion prohibits gambling and considers it one of the most abhorrent acts. While other religions do not prohibit gambling, they emphasize self-control and addiction. However, if someone controls themselves in their personal beliefs and has no harmful effects on the environment and surroundings, then there is certainly no obstacle even if they are addicted.

[justinlamode]

For me gambling is just like every other business because it has its risk just like other businesses have risk. Anyone thinking that there is something different from gambling should imagine building a house and natural disaster happen and wash it away or importing a ship of goods and having it sink in the ocean, that is to say there is nothing without risk. Without the risk, I don't know if there is anything people will complain about gambling. Therefore, I don't link religion or religious belief to gambling because religion is a personal, as I see our action to others more important than any other thing.

[Sticky Bomb]

In a setting where gambling does more harm than good, possibly in underdeveloped countries where their youths are more into gambling for survival and it have proved detrimental to their life, those around there may tend to see gambling as a bad omen.

Religious people don't reject tithes from gambling wins, but the wise ones would advise you to reduce your engagement or desist from it as much as you can do that you don't lose back what you win tho the casinos.

Gambling isn't a bad thing at all, but we must uphold gambling in moderation and staking with amounts we can afford to lose so as to pass the right mindset about gambling to the society since the effect of gambling on those who indulge in it influences societal perception of it.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I can answer, although it may sound a bit rude: "Money has no smell.". I know dozens of similar stories. A man stole, having the position of the head of an enterprise, and dragged part of the money as a ransom to the church. Bandits who rob people but have a cross on their neck or believe in Islam also give alms to their religious temples. Religion accepts everything; I have never heard that somewhere there was a refusal because the money was obtained dishonestly. In the end, each of us, in one way or another, as religion says, is not without sin; there are no saints among us, and therefore there is nothing reprehensible that such money is accepted.

[kotajikikox]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

That is hypocritical and frankly just shows how they still only care about the money aspect of the world. Money is seen as superficial and worldly greed by religious groups so to accept it counterparts their arguments.

But to that gambler who wanted to donate, this just shows how sometimes the “sins” that religious people believe in does not exactly make you a bad person. Gambling can be seen as a sin but to commit this particular sin does not make you horrible.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Be informed that this is a general discussion, not a threat to take attacks on each other, drop your own perspective and state some reasons to back them up, let's make it more of being fun and informative with our actual facts.

That's normal though if I'm not mistaken specially in Roman Catholicism, I mean those church that are being build comes from the money of people and they are accepting donations in any kind and you don't know where the money is coming from, even in gambling.

So I guess if the religion are going to be the main benefactor, they are going to accept the money per se and then condemn gambling in their sermon. That's why there are a lot of non-practice of religion in most countries because of this concept. How hypocritical those religious persons about gambling but then accepting the dirty money as donations.

[Russlenat]

I guess we just need to open our eyes because the world is evolving,  maybe in the past, gambling was considered a sin because of its effect on people, but nowadays gambling is very open to everyone, and as gamblers, we can learn how to be more responsible in our habits. That's all I can say, everything in excess is really bad, so as long as you gamble responsibly, you should be fine.

When it comes to religion, I just want to respect what others believe, and I don't want to argue because that never ends. As for me, I enjoy gambling; it doesn't hurt my finances and I'm living like a normal person even while gambling regularly, so I should be fine.

[Ambatman]

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Imo, I think it's the risk of gambling and what it could lead to if not properly controlled.
Religious leaders are usually subject that their followers would want to emulate.
So I don't see any benefit with them engaging in an activity that could endanger the finance of their members.

I have never heard that somewhere there was a refusal because the money was obtained dishonestly. In the end, each of us, in one way or another, as religion says, is not without sin; there are no saints among us, and therefore there is nothing reprehensible that such money is accepted.

I have seen and it isn't even once or twice.
They reject it because they believe it means they're encouraging such actions.
Or maybe it doesn't sit well with their conscience

[swogerino]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Be informed that this is a general discussion, not a threat to take attacks on each other, drop your own perspective and state some reasons to back them up, let's make it more of being fun and informative with our actual facts.

That is what all clerics do. They shout and scream during their sessions in Church and Mosques about how bad gambling is and that it can do to a person much more harm than it can give a benefit if any. However when they will be offered money they will do everything for money as they the clerics in my opinion are the most corrupted persons on earth, they are manipulating people minds in order to enrich themselves and do not give the slightest f*ck for any problem that one person or one believer of their religion maybe having. I simply don't trust these guys as in the end they are there for their own benefit when in fact they should be there supporting their believers. So I gamble as much as the hell I want.

[EarnOnVictor]

No doubt, people's beliefs, religion, and even culture determine their disposition about gambling, but I tell you, what I respect mostly is my belief. It will even be better if you are the kind of a person who has his mind, you will be able to make the undiluted decision about this without the pollution of external interference/ideologies. If you know you didn't steal money to gamble, you are not addicted to gambling and gambling is not ruining your finances, I see no reason why you should see it as evil.

[Cantsay]

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Hmm I'd say what the clergy did was okay? Cause technically speaking if they rejected every money that was of dirty source, I reckon they'd reject anything but freshly minted ones from the bank cause every bill that we have inevitably came (or touched) something dirty (from their standards).

And I believe there's no explanation for it except for it being well, religion. It may stem from a story from their holy book or whatnot but I believe that is enough as it is as an explanation. After all, it's called a religion for a reason.

For me accepting the money is the same as the clergy encouraging the people to gamble; it’s the same as accepting a kidney from an organ harvester and then condemning the act of killing people and harvesting their organs.

To me I’d say the love of money clouded the clergy judgement at that point and if truly he believes in the holy book then he’d have rejected anything that had to do with gambling including the money that was brought to him from gambling.

If it was an offering made and the clergy didn’t know about the source then that would have been different but since he knew the source but still accepted it then he’s not right.

[Slow death]

Nowadays, many church leaders only think about making money from church members. Even when church members steal money and go to church to give part of the money as a donation, church leaders accept it and do not report to the police that the money was stolen. Unfortunately, many churches are involved in money laundering. Regarding gambling, many churches criticize gambling, but accept the money that comes from gambling.

[danherbias07]

If it was given by someone else, wherever it came from, I think they don't need to criticize it. If it's to help then I think it should be accepted. But if the given money is meant to be a bribe for something evil then I think that's the money that should not be accepted. Money is already evil and I think many religious people do believe that but it's a necessity that one must have.
I do believe that there's always something good in one person even if the money came from something bad. If they are legitimately trying to help then why be prideful and refuse it?
I had friends who are drug pushers and they made a ton of money in that industry and sometimes they do try to help when it comes to financial problems of their problems without even asking to be paid back.
It's not a bribe to make his name good but only a chance to help others because he have the capacity to do so. 

[Darker45]

Religions have different takes on gambling. In the Islamic belief, gambling is haram or forbidden, a sin. It is also discouraged both in Buddhism and Hinduism, although I'm not sure if it is unequivocally labeled as a sin. In my religion, it's neither forbidden nor a sin although it is frowned upon, discouraged.

However, accepting proceeds from gambling is not gambling. They're two different bananas. There was actually a debate in my religion as to whether monetary offerings coming from prohibited activities should be accepted or not. I'm not sure if there's an official stand but, for me, it should be accepted.

My belief is that money is neutral. It is neither clean nor dirty. It's the use of money that's clean or dirty. If drug money is donated to a school to purchase books and other educational materials, then it's clean. If it's used to pay for an assassin, then it's dirty. Money can't have intentions.