Balancing our Personal Believes, Religion and Gambling

[lovesmayfamilis]

I have seen and it isn't even once or twice.
They reject it because they believe it means they're encouraging such actions.
Or maybe it doesn't sit well with their conscience

In this case, I bow my head before such clergymen. For me, such people always seem purer and more correct than all ordinary people, because it is to them that one should come for advice in difficult life situations. But if other ministers are seized by the passion for profit and enrichment, this means that they are no better than all laymen and in vain occupy a place and serve as messengers from God. I always adhere to the rule: do not create an idol for yourself. But for many in our lives, money has become an idol. Yes, money is necessary for everyone to exist in this world, but one must always adhere to morality. If gambling turns into a vice for some people, then the money obtained with the help of this vice is also vicious. But as I wrote above, many ministers take everything, since hardly anyone talks about their origin.

[Weawant]

Most religions has got some standards for which they use to maintain their  moral compass, and so this also affects their senses of judgment with matters like this and so you get to hear of divers perception as it regards this, some will say its okay to accept the money and condemn the source meanwhile with others they will condemn all of it, both the source and the money hence they are not going to accept the money. I think since this persons didn't steal or hurt someone to get the money,  it's a healthy one morally to accept.

[ImThour]

No one cares about someone's religion and them gambling, if the person is willing to do it themselves, why would anyone else stop him? It's the man's own mind to whether stop or continue. I do not understand why you wouldn't consider it a personal reason than making it a wider topic and adding it under religion. Most of the religions do consider gambling as a sin if I am not wrong, but that's not the biggest sin as well. We have people doing way bad things than just gambling in front of a computer screen without harming anyone.

[Davidvictorson]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condemn gambling.

Be true to your belief. Be committed to it and stick to whatever it is that belief. You do not even have to be a religious person to have some strong principles in this thing that if condemn a thing you should not share in the so called good that comes from it. In this story the clergy person is dominated by mammon and not the teaching of the holy books. He would need to go back to his clergy school for some lessons.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

With regards to why clergy men should not gamble, that question can only be answered by them alone. We cannot tell if they speak against it in public and practice it in private.

[kotajikikox]

It is not right to discuss about gambling and religion because both is different and many people who are religious will not like to see other people gambling. They will say that they condemn gambling and will not accept the win money while the other people may accept the win money and say no problem with that money.

Yes they are different but religion encompass everything. It is literally the principle that people would follow to live their lives accordingly. However, important to note that there are different kinds of religions out there and one may not have the same principles as the other hence why one religion might not see gambling as a sin while many others might.

Religion should not related to anything such as gambling, political, economical, and social. Let them run by itself and not interfere each other. People who want to playing gambling will still playing gambling while those who don't like gambling will not agree with gambling.

Like I said, religion encompasses everything. It is what dictates what should people do and should not do. However I also do not think that religion should lead a government. That is what should be separated because not everyone in one country share the same religion and following only one religion for the entire country would be unfair.

[TheUltraElite]

Religious people have the rule of not doing anything that is blasphemous but they are the most blasphemous of the country. With growing number of pedophilia and sexual misconduct among them, gambling also has no bars. This I why I do not trust any religion out there and I consider those who want to gamble to gamble as their own risk.

Often times when caught these people will try to justify the ends by quoting something good or some good reason, but these are never really the reality, just an eyewash, so dont trust these people.

[xenomorfo]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Be informed that this is a general discussion, not a threat to take attacks on each other, drop your own perspective and state some reasons to back them up, let's make it more of being fun and informative with our actual facts.

Being a convinced atheist, i think it is not really a great deal to mix religion with anything that is of real life
In times past this thing has mixed and we have come to burn, live a lot of women by believing them witches
or to make crusades, super bloody wars
This is my thought

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Well, I did just say that with how far technology have come, I do not believe that it's wrong to gamble regardless of whatever religion anyone comes from and what the religion says about gambling, as long as the person is actually gambling for the right reasons, which includes not depending solely on gambling for their livelihood, since I know almost every religion preach against people being lazy, and a person depending solely on gambling proceeds for livelihood indeed a good sign of laziness.

Gambling is even far better than what many in different religions do for money, and they still take the same money to their clergyman, who would not only accept, but also pray for them that they will continue to succeed in what ever they do.
For example, think of someone who is into money rituals, that is kills people and sacrifice them for money, or those who are into kidnapping and selling/trafficking of human body parts, hard drugs which damage alot of lives every day, and other forms of illegal activities, this people are in different religion, and donate same money made from this illegal activities to their religious leader for the expansion and growth of their worship centers, if a person manages to gamble and win a jackpot, and decides to take a percentage of this money to his religious leader as a sacrifice, isn't this better than those who maim human lives for the same money?

[Yucky]

In my religion what makes gambling a sin is how you approach it. If you are stealing to gamble, if you are gambling and neglecting your duties as a father, a brother, a child is an issue. If gambling is now taking your entire life, you no longer worship with others, you are all vices because you are gambling then it a sin.

But if you gamble moderately, gamble with spare cash, you are still devoted to your duties as a husband, a mother, a child, you are still devoted to your duties in the society. In fact, no one hears about your gambling troubles, you just do your thing. If you get profit from it, that's how you spend it is your choice, as long as you didn't get it illegally or you didn't have to offend people because of gambling, then it's okay.

And that's where I stand too, your approach, your mindset to gambling makes a big difference. You cannot compare a gambler who gambles for fun, gambles with little amount, fulfills all their responsibilities before stepping foot into the casino, to someone that is so addicted to gambling, can literally sell properties to gamble, fight with families, not responsible, causing nuisance in the society, they are not same people.

[Akbarkoe]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Secondly, some of us have been arguing on this before time, but I want us to go wide on this discussion using different approaches over it, which may includes the religious, political, economical and social believes to why Clergy men should gamble or not, lets sight examples where necessary, prove our point and learn from each other's opinion.

Be informed that this is a general discussion, not a threat to take attacks on each other, drop your own perspective and state some reasons to back them up, let's make it more of being fun and informative with our actual facts.

Yes, from my own point of view, this is not linear with the comments made by the pastor, if it is prohibited, then the money should not enter the pastor's room, if he still accepts it, it can be said that the pastor is a hypocrite and does not teach the correct teachings, he said it was wrong and cursed him but accepting gambling money that was given to him by others, that is a form of stupidity and there is no form of consistency in teachings.

If he likes gambling, then it is better not to be a pastor, rather than being a hypocrite. LOL

[YOSHIE]

Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

As far as I know, gambling is not in accordance with Christian teachings, that's the basic point so in gambling in the Bible is classified as a sin on the grounds that involving some immoral actions such as dishonesty and greed, because they can keep someone from God.

In (Leviticus 19:11) and (1 Timothy 6:10) has explained.

"Don't steal, do not lie and don't lie to someone with each other."

"Because the roots of all evil are love money. Because by hunting money some people have deviated from faith and torture themselves with various sorrows.

Meaning: From what I mentioned above, the priest or the church should reject the money/offerings that are clearly produced from gambling/haram compounds must believe Tampa money from the results of church gambling will remain standing, so it needs to be careful about managing wisely.

[HONDACD125]

I think it depends on the religion in question. Many religions aren't completely against gambling or consider it something that is too big of a sin, etc. On the other hand, some religions, such as Islam, are completely against it and it's forbidden. So if you say that you will gamble, win some money from there, and then use it to build a mosque so that people can pray in it or maybe give to a charity that is going to do the same, most Muslim scholars would say you shouldn't do it because it probably wouldn't count since the money you have gotten is from sinful activity.

So it totally depends on the religion and whether the religious scholars or heads would accept it or not. It also depends on your religious beliefs somehow, because if you are generally religious, you shouldn't get involved in things such as gambling or betting in the first place if your religion forbids it.

[Findingnemo]

I am assuming you are talking about a pastor?  It's like a way of life so they can't be a pastor as well as gambler if it's against the beliefs cause then it's no more following the religion that you are supposed to do. But if you are an individual that you don't preach others what to do especially the religious stuffs then you can be a gambler as well as a good man but I doubt you can be a pastor though.

Every religion on earth is against the gambling so you can never find a way to be 100% Christian while being a gambler, it all depends on what's our preferences.

[reagansimms]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Money has an attractive power that can change a person's stance, in this case, the priest accepted the money earned from gambling, but on the other hand, he condemned gambling. From the story above, it is clear that the priest was not firm in his stance, if he condemned gambling regardless of the reason, he should also reject money from gambling.

Finally, the act of gambling is considered legal in some countries and there are also countries that consider it illegal. However, on the surface, gambling is not an evil act, although there are some irresponsible individuals who carry out actions that harm other people after losing at gambling.

[Fiatless]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

If the religion forbids gambling, then it will be wrong for the clergyman to receive any percentage from wins. I am aware that gambling is seen as sin in for Muslims. It will be wrong for an Islamic teacher to accept money gotten through gambling. However, some preachers don't ask the source of your funds. They accept any donations since it will be used for the good of the religion and humanity.

[moneystery]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

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so basically the clergy is a hypocrite? because from what I know in Christian teachings itself gambling is forbidden, and the church will not tolerate any form of gambling... even when the gambler wins and donates it to the church, it will only add to their sins. because it's the same as you stealing someone and then taking their money and donating it to the church, it's just useless and won't forgive your sins. so I see it as the clergy is just a money-lover, but it's natural because the clergy are also human and I just feel sorry for his congregation.

that's why if someone wants to balance their gambling with their beliefs it just can't be, because the two things are contradictory, how can you balance two things that are contradictory? it will only be a person's personal sin when he gambles and he doesn't need to donate it to the church/mosque, because that's the same as insulting his God.

[Doan9269]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

If the religion forbids gambling, then it will be wrong for the clergyman to receive any percentage from wins. I am aware that gambling is seen as sin in for Muslims. It will be wrong for an Islamic teacher to accept money gotten through gambling. However, some preachers don't ask the source of your funds. They accept any donations since it will be used for the good of the religion and humanity.

How I wish these same Clergy should have an idea on the sources to the money brought to them by every single person offering them any single penny, a politician can embezzle governemnt fund and take a cut to them, they don't know the source of the money but just collected, a thief as well may rob, but because they don't know he steals to get money, they also collect from him, same applies on every other human in life, then why should an ordinary gambler win a big money and take to them, they collect and condem gambling all because they know the giver to be a gambler, when gambling nis a means of having fun and being entertained, a lot of wrongs are happening in life that needs to be corrected because of wrong approach or mentality.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Hahaha, it's funny tho, if he was against gambling then he should not have anything to do with the profits that comes off it. Well, I will not be too judgemental here, one thing I know is that, people could have a strong believe against something but still enjoy the profits that other person can get from that thing and give to them, as long as they themselves that have such believe against that thing is not directly associating with that thing, they are fine.

Let me give two strange examples,  I might be someone that doesn't eat chicken due to some no tangible reason, but that's doesn't mean I can not kiss or get married to someone that eats chicken.

Second example, if maybe Mr A had an issue with Mr B and they are bother keeping malice and not talking to each other, Mr A might not be talking to Mr B but could be talking to the kids of Mr B's children because he believes that the issues he had is worth Mr B and not his kids, but on a reverse case, since Mr B is not talking to Mr A, he would not also want to associate with Mr A's kids.

So, humans, have different life principles, aside the cultural, social, and traditional principles that some of them happens to embrace later on.

[Doan9269]

Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

Hahaha, it's funny tho, if he was against gambling then he should not have anything to do with the profits that comes off it. Well, I will not be too judgemental here, one thing I know is that, people could have a strong believe against something but still enjoy the profits that other person can get from that thing and give to them, as long as they themselves that have such believe against that thing is not directly associating with that thing, they are fine.

Let me give two strange examples,  I might be someone that doesn't eat chicken due to some no tangible reason, but that's doesn't mean I can not kiss or get married to someone that eats chicken.

Second example, if maybe Mr A had an issue with Mr B and they are bother keeping malice and not talking to each other, Mr A might not be talking to Mr B but could be talking to the kids of Mr B's children because he believes that the issues he had is worth Mr B and not his kids, but on a reverse case, since Mr B is not talking to Mr A, he would not also want to associate with Mr A's kids.

So, humans, have different life principles, aside the cultural, social, and traditional principles that some of them happens to embrace later on.

This is getting interesting already, people have their own way of manipulating even on what the religion does not preach against, most of these rules and ethics were personal motivated habits some are taking into religion, even it's practice does not go against anything that makes us happy a d I don't even know if it's been categorically written on the religious books that one should not gamble, moreover, gambling is even more better than many other social vises people are doing in the society, we might not like it when we get to know some secrets and facts that are not visible or known to us, being humanly considerable is what is more better than just being a fanatic of what we practice, after all we are not God, judging on others is wrong, we have to act our path and leave the rest.

[Dewi Aries]

Just a short story I will like to tell before the main discussion, I was opoortuned to listen on a telephone conversation between a man and a Clergy, what he ask was that if it is right for someone to gamble and won a jackpot, then bring a percentage of the winning to the Clergy, will the be accept such as a sacrifice for the growth and developments of the religion? Knowing that the money was gotten from gambling fortune, the Clergy accepted the money but condem gambling.

If the religion forbids gambling, then it will be wrong for the clergyman to receive any percentage from wins. I am aware that gambling is seen as sin in for Muslims. It will be wrong for an Islamic teacher to accept money gotten through gambling. However, some preachers don't ask the source of your funds. They accept any donations since it will be used for the good of the religion and humanity.

Yes, that's right, if religion forbids gambling then people who are believed to be religious figures should not be involved with money from gambling, whether accepting it or in any scenario, especially when we talk about Islam, which is indeed a religion that truly forbids gambling, but the scenario of receiving or giving it is still very possible to run smoothly if, for example, the religious figure really does not know that the money they receive is money from gambling when, for example, they do not ask, and moreover, sometimes it is still possible for the giver to lie to them about where the money came from, so for this problem it is a bit difficult to identify if, for example, the giver is not honest, because of course the religious figure will accept it if, for example, the giver is lying.