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February 21, 2025, 02:26:30 PM
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Everything matters about risks management on which this will really be always recommended whether you do deal up with trading or investing on which these things are really that involved with risks and its inevitable. The level of risks will really be basing up on how well you do make out such engagement on which we know that trading is a skill that you wont be able to obtain out in a short period of time and same goes with investing on which there's a risks on losing money too but these two isnt something that impossible that you can be able to succeed. It do all matters on how well you do handle yourself on dealing up with these things accordingly. Neither trading or investing will really be that bringing out that damage because when we do speak about on the money spent or talking about capital then it could be just that the same. They might be differ on how they've been that need to be dealing on with but it all do shared up with the same goal.
It is clear that the goal is the same to earn income, whether trading or investing, there is always a risk, but again by looking at the risk side that exists, it will be a thought to always be considered before entering it, by considering the smaller risk that we will take between trading or investing, all there are choices that must be taken according to the abilities we have.

In the long term, it is possible to reduce your losses to zero, for example, if you decide to accumulation Bitcoin, then the mindset of a small investor should make it easier to invest in Bitcoin through the DCA method. If you accumulate Bitcoin in this method for a long time, it will reduce the amount of risk and get high profits. DCA from discretionary income. Deposit Bitcoin in a reasonable proportion per week / month according to your ability. In this method, I am almost absent from any signs of risk or signs of capital loss, yet you will invest the amount that will not have any impact on your family and social economy even if it is lost. To estimate if.











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February 21, 2025, 02:45:11 PM
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I believe you have learnt a lot of things before you created this topic as a newbie you are. I have learnt not to underestimate anyone here in the forum or judge someones knowledge based on their rank.

In the little i know, trading is one risky move. Yes, people have been able to profit from trading but many has fail. A trader will regret if they do not have an income flow. Imagine using your all in all to trade and lost in it. So to be safer if any of us chooses to trade, they should focus on having a stable source of income and from there they can allocate few of their money into it and make good money.
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February 21, 2025, 02:52:14 PM
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Of course there are risks and pros/cons of trading vs investing. For investing, it's easy as just like buying and doing DCA for the rest of the cycle, the only catch is that you need to be mentally strong and willing to grind it out hard every week or whatever your buying period using the DCA method. So there could be some who will be consistent in the next 6 months then falter along the way because of so many reasons.

For trading, needs more time in your end, as you look and study the patterns and then jump it when you know that you are going to profit and then sell later. But still, most of us doesn't have the time and skills. Although there are bots that might help us, it is still not a guarantee that you will make profits because you also need technical analysis before you can set the parameters correct.
Don't just talk about investments that are much less risky than trading as if it's easy for anyone to do because at the end of the day, this situation is definitely a bit of a misnomer for me.
In addition to that the fact that investing can also be much longer than that and we can see a lot of people now who choose to invest even for annual ratios even much longer like 5-10 year cycles so in the end for this it all comes back to your own readiness.

Both (investing and trading) are not easy to do and there are some things that need to be prepared so that what we choose can be the right choice. But if the choice is only 2 and faced with 1 choice, it is clear that investment is much better for now especially for those beginners who sometimes don't really know what they are doing but already expect to get big and fast results which sometimes makes the path a little complicated.

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February 21, 2025, 04:26:24 PM
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And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.

And now just replace "trading goals" with "investment goals" and here you go, it can work both ways. It's good to have goals and some plan for how to get there, so in the end, it's all about "how you do it!". If you have some skills & do it properly you can make some profit, of course, with a bit of luck, I guess nothing fully works without some luck.

One question, did that happen to you? Did trading cause you more damage than investing?


 
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February 21, 2025, 05:45:27 PM
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Trading can only cause more damage to you when you don't have an extra source of income. Most people make the mistake of solely depending on trading to make money forgetting that the market can go against you at any time. Focus on building a business that can create a source of income for you while you're developing your skills by trading on a demo account, then after getting the capital you need you can start trading, but don't just jump into using a huge capital, start of taking a low risk then gradually increase from there, people out themselves on the damage side that's why they fail in trading. in a nutshell focus on investing in something physical before thinking of trading. Trading is actually profitable if you know how to handle it.

 
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February 21, 2025, 06:12:21 PM
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Not all investments go as planned, there are people who have lost money In the investments they made probably due to one or two things they couldn't control. Trading is actually profitable when you are financially stable, my reason for saying this is that, there are traders that can lose 10 thousand dollars in the market today, fund their trading account the next day and make x4 of what they lost. If you are not financially stable you can't recover in most cases. Trading causes more damage to people who make it their only source of income, focus on finding other ways to create wealth before trading.


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In my opinion, to be successful in trading, you need a competitive advantage. Trading is essentially a zero-sum game.

If you do not have a competitive advantage, you have no reason to believe that you will make a profit from trading (in the long term). As a result, your trading is simply a form of gambling.

In contrast, investing has a more solid foundation. The modern world economy is inflationary. Therefore, any asset with a good foundation will increase in value over time.

In addition, the price of an asset is affected by various events. By analyzing these events, an experienced investor can predict the prospects for changes in the price of an asset with reasonable accuracy.


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Generally investing is less risky and more profitable than trading, no threat when it comes to price movement just secure your investment you are good to go.

For investing your work as an investor is just hold an asset for a long period of time, for years or decades without doing any other thing rather than buying using the DCA method that is common among investors just to make massive profit in the future.

When you feel there is no threat to investing and prefer to do it than trading, then your emotions would have not taken over your mind when the price movement goes sour and you begin to see a drop in your total portfolio, that is only when you can certify that your investment is secured and more preferable to hold than trading.

When you employ the DCA method, don’t forget to also make sure that you have another savings that will be for your emergency funds, not to touch from your bitcoin investment it would be better to have a safe portfolio and get the best profit in the future. When your investment in bitcoin is still your only savings, you’re at risk of not achieving an 100% saving in bitcoin using the DCA method which allows you to get a more suitable price for all unit of Bitcoin you’ve accumulated.

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And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.

Both trading and investing have their ups and downs and you should at least know well what you’re getting yourself into before concluding on taking a step into them. The market is very unpredictable and that affects the nature of the market for both investors and traders be can changes their stace in a decision they have already taken of the market before.

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February 22, 2025, 12:56:48 AM
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Trading can only cause more damage to you when you don't have an extra source of income. Most people make the mistake of solely depending on trading to make money forgetting that the market can go against you at any time. Focus on building a business that can create a source of income for you while you're developing your skills by trading on a demo account, then after getting the capital you need you can start trading, but don't just jump into using a huge capital, start of taking a low risk then gradually increase from there, people out themselves on the damage side that's why they fail in trading. in a nutshell focus on investing in something physical before thinking of trading. Trading is actually profitable if you know how to handle it.
Having some sort of business which gives you earning and income that you need to cover up all your bills is good and will allow you not to trade under pressure, you can still have a source of income and still trade without control up to the extent that you will lose almost all your money even from the little you earn outside your trading, in other for you to survive trading without losing so much money you need to focus more on controlling your emotions don’t be an aggressive trader and don’t chase loses, this thing don’t just happen to new people in trading even those who are experience if you don’t know how to control yourself you can burn your account out.

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February 22, 2025, 06:56:23 AM
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And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.
And now just replace "trading goals" with "investment goals" and here you go, it can work both ways. It's good to have goals and some plan for how to get there, so in the end, it's all about "how you do it!". If you have some skills & do it properly you can make some profit, of course, with a bit of luck, I guess nothing fully works without some luck.

One question, did that happen to you? Did trading cause you more damage than investing?
Yeah, trading and investment do not have an inherit result, it doesn't have one better than the other, it all depends on the person. You can be a bad trader, and trade terrible and lose a lot of money, you can be a good trader, and make great trades and make a ton of money, you can be a terrible investor and invest and sell when it drops and lose a lot of money, you can be a great investor wait until it goes up and hold until you make a ton of profit.

All of these can be done, and you need to be careful with what you are doing, before we could consider what you should do. Everyone is different, and because of that we should not be looking the way we are doing right now to make all that much difference in the end.

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For investing your work as an investor is just hold an asset for a long period of time, for years or decades without doing any other thing rather than buying using the DCA method that is common among investors just to make massive profit in the future.

And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.
That's a much easier side compared to people involved in trading and we should be able to see opportunities that are much more in line with the ability to carry out investment or trading. Not everyone can be lucky with trading because it may require skills or knowledge in running it. It's different from being involved in investment because all we need to learn is about potential coins to be held in the long term.

I think investing is much easier to run because if the concept is run for the long term, then just learn to understand the accumulation pattern of bitcoin so that we can hold all the bitcoins that are purchased at the price we want and it is much simpler to understand easily compared to trading.

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And also have it at the back of your mind that you must first of all know your investment goals, investing horizon and risk tolerance before choosing between trading and investing.
And now just replace "trading goals" with "investment goals" and here you go, it can work both ways. It's good to have goals and some plan for how to get there, so in the end, it's all about "how you do it!". If you have some skills & do it properly you can make some profit, of course, with a bit of luck, I guess nothing fully works without some luck.

One question, did that happen to you? Did trading cause you more damage than investing?
Yeah, trading and investment do not have an inherit result, it doesn't have one better than the other, it all depends on the person. You can be a bad trader, and trade terrible and lose a lot of money, you can be a good trader, and make great trades and make a ton of money, you can be a terrible investor and invest and sell when it drops and lose a lot of money, you can be a great investor wait until it goes up and hold until you make a ton of profit.

All of these can be done, and you need to be careful with what you are doing, before we could consider what you should do. Everyone is different, and because of that we should not be looking the way we are doing right now to make all that much difference in the end.
Results and outcomes will really be that different to each other and just like been said that it will really be that totally basing up on how someone do make out such action or on how they've been dealing up with neither investing or trading. Damage could really be able to encounter and just like been said that this is something which is really that inevitable. You cant be able to lessen up the risks though at the time or moment that you do gain up experience on which this will be leading up into more careful approach with it. It doesnt matter whether you are choosing up one of these things or would be doing both things because you can actually be able to deal up with basing or depending on how well you do manage your time and money. If you arent that prepared about on whats gonna happen then it will be better that you should be stopping on dealing up with these things or you would be studying up first and made out some research on whats you would gonna about to deal on with.  Damage is normal but its something that could be lessen at the moment that your knowledge will be adding up via into those learning experience you do got on the moment that you do deal with it.
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I agree with quite a lot of your statements and investing will save your energy compared to trading because you don't need to always watch the market.
One thing I see trading is very suitable only for those who like aggressiveness or fast activity, but those who are more calm then investing is the choice.
Sometimes investing is more profitable for example in Bitcoin but investing is not the only way to make money, trading can also produce if done carefully and with adequate skills, So do it based on what you believe, not because you follow what other people do.

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Of course investing in Bitcoin is better than Trading even though most guys proclaim that trading is profitable but yet it can not be compared with investing and HODLing for a long period of time. Trading is seen as gambling in the sense that so much stress is attached and emotion is attached in a way that when ther is a lose it causes panic. So in whatever way we think of, Bitcoin investment is far better than Trading in my own opinion.

Well you really can't conclude on this,just say you actually prefer investing in Bitcoin to Trading.Trading and Bitcoin investment carry potential risks and rewards to making money and they also rely on several working factors.

Trading and Investing in Bitcoin are two different things afterwards and there ought to be no comparisons between them.If it seems right for you to go after trading or either of them then so be it.Its actually worth the time, efforts and potentials as there're intimately a tools for financial stability.

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Not all investments go as planned, there are people who have lost money In the investments they made probably due to one or two things they couldn't control.
Choice of investment is important here. In crypto only bitcoin is worth putting money in. So take bitcoin back in 2015 at three digits vs bitcoin in 2025 with 5 digits, obviously you have profited here.

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Trading specially "day trading" can be dangerous on any day. Those who can take that risk should be the ones doing it. Its not about stable income, often day traders are in huge debts that even 2-3months salaries cannot pay off. On top of that you have bills to pay. Its a horrible life to lead like that and I would never recommend it anybody.

 
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Not all investments go as planned, there are people who have lost money In the investments they made probably due to one or two things they couldn't control.
Choice of investment is important here. In crypto only bitcoin is worth putting money in. So take bitcoin back in 2015 at three digits vs bitcoin in 2025 with 5 digits, obviously you have profited here.

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Trading is actually profitable when you are financially stable, my reason for saying this is that, there are traders that can lose 10 thousand dollars in the market today, fund their trading account the next day and make x4 of what they lost. If you are not financially stable you can't recover in most cases. Trading causes more damage to people who make it their only source of income, focus on finding other ways to create wealth before trading.
Trading specially "day trading" can be dangerous on any day. Those who can take that risk should be the ones doing it. Its not about stable income, often day traders are in huge debts that even 2-3months salaries cannot pay off. On top of that you have bills to pay. Its a horrible life to lead like that and I would never recommend it anybody.

Sad reality is there are people gamble their future by trying to gain something from trading. But they didn't manage to do it well and end up losing their money. This is the reason why trading is risky earning option to choose because of its unpredictability. 

What you said is perfect example and for sure holders always win on this since what gained made by traders is temporary since there's huge chance that they might just lose it on their next trade.

Same as you this is the reason why I don't recommend trading to my friends especially if they want to know how to earn with Bitcoin since I know this activity is so risky for them to try.

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Not all investments go as planned, there are people who have lost money In the investments they made probably due to one or two things they couldn't control.
Choice of investment is important here. In crypto only bitcoin is worth putting money in. So take bitcoin back in 2015 at three digits vs bitcoin in 2025 with 5 digits, obviously you have profited here.

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Trading is actually profitable when you are financially stable, my reason for saying this is that, there are traders that can lose 10 thousand dollars in the market today, fund their trading account the next day and make x4 of what they lost. If you are not financially stable you can't recover in most cases. Trading causes more damage to people who make it their only source of income, focus on finding other ways to create wealth before trading.
Trading specially "day trading" can be dangerous on any day. Those who can take that risk should be the ones doing it. Its not about stable income, often day traders are in huge debts that even 2-3months salaries cannot pay off. On top of that you have bills to pay. Its a horrible life to lead like that and I would never recommend it anybody.

Sad reality is there are people gamble their future by trying to gain something from trading. But they didn't manage to do it well and end up losing their money. This is the reason why trading is risky earning option to choose because of its unpredictability. 

What you said is perfect example and for sure holders always win on this since what gained made by traders is temporary since there's huge chance that they might just lose it on their next trade.

Same as you this is the reason why I don't recommend trading to my friends especially if they want to know how to earn with Bitcoin since I know this activity is so risky for them to try.

You are right truly trading is very risky however some set of people who are trading don't see it as there source of income they do it for fun, I know someone who is a Bitcoin investor and also a trader he uses just 1 percent from his discretionary income to trade because he sees it has fun just like we have Bitcoin investors who still gambles for fun so if you must trade do if for fun and use a very small percent from your Discretionary income to do it, people who usually go broke because of trading are people who take it as there only source of income, trading is unpredictable and so taking it or seeing it as your only source of income may damage your finance, as a newbie who wants to go into Bitcoin it is advisable you focus on accumulating and holding Bitcoin for a very long term it is less risky than trading because the volatility of Bitcoin won't affect you since you are holding for a long term but traders only hold for a very short period and the volatility nature of Bitcoin always affect them and that is the reason for there lost, as a Bitcoin investor you will make more gain if you can be consistent in your accumulation and patient in your holding.

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Of course investing in Bitcoin is better than Trading even though most guys proclaim that trading is profitable but yet it can not be compared with investing and HODLing for a long period of time. Trading is seen as gambling in the sense that so much stress is attached and emotion is attached in a way that when ther is a lose it causes panic. So in whatever way we think of, Bitcoin investment is far better than Trading in my own opinion.

Well you really can't conclude on this,just say you actually prefer investing in Bitcoin to Trading.Trading and Bitcoin investment carry potential risks and rewards to making money and they also rely on several working factors.
already i made it clear in my comment that in my own opinion that investing is more preferable than trading and not generalizing it to everyone. although both carry potential risk and reward but i still see investing in bitcoin as a more safer way to stay away from stress. for example, a person who is a trader may be having high blood pressure as a result losing a huge amount of money by trading. for example a person may enter trading and instead of bitcoin to rise then it dips more, and out of panic the person may decide to sell at lost. if such procedure continues for long, the person may have lost a large portion of his fund in trading loss. and may not have enough capital to continue. but bitcoin investor/HODLer may buy and hodl for a long time and the fall in price in different intervals will be recovered because it was not sold out of loss due to panic.  so like i say each of us are comfortable with the type of investment we like.

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March 06, 2025, 11:11:49 AM
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Sad reality is there are people gamble their future by trying to gain something from trading. But they didn't manage to do it well and end up losing their money. This is the reason why trading is risky earning option to choose because of its unpredictability. 
That is because they're underestimating how trading works. They think that it's enough that they know the strategies, the trading methodologies and other stuff.

But if they fact the reality, there's more to that and unexpected things could come to them at all times. The risk in trading never changes and anyone who wishes to succeed in there should be ready for any outcome, win or lose.

Same as you this is the reason why I don't recommend trading to my friends especially if they want to know how to earn with Bitcoin since I know this activity is so risky for them to try.
Me either. I don't recommend trading to my friends. I'm giving them the easiest yet the best advise IMO and that's not to trade but to DCA, hold and sell when they're happy.

 
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March 06, 2025, 12:46:59 PM
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Out of the so many traders in the world, there are still a good number of them that are very successful. They lose, for sure, but they never allows losses to overweight the profit and that's the only way one can be successful in trading. Investing is less risky than trading but if you don't have a good knowledge of it, you can still do the wrong thing and not get profit.

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