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March 19, 2025, 09:33:21 PM
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Of course holding is less stressful compared to trading, although is just a matter of choice because actually there are people at their that is also make money in their trading but the truth still remains the same no two ways about because the chance of losing is always higher than the chance of getting profits from it, so however, I think is just depends on individuals decisions because everybody can not do the same thing at a time, but for me I think holding is more reliable than trading.

It's not about reliability but it's more about experience and knowledge, I would say. People who lack knowledge about the market and general experience in trading are better off only investing in Bitcoin and holding for the long term. On the other hand, those who understand the market very well and have trading knowledge can do short-term trading and it can be profitable for them because they know how to play with the market and when to open and close their trades.

Newbies usually lack the necessary knowledge that one needs for trading which is the reason why it's better for newbies to stick to investing. If you have a capital, invest it in Bitcoin at once if you are getting a good price or keep doing DCA and just hold for the future and sell when the price is higher than when you bought so that you can take profit and exit.
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March 19, 2025, 10:13:34 PM
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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?
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March 19, 2025, 10:47:13 PM
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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?
No doubt trading requires skill, knowledge etc. Investing is different yet both are risky, for the fact there’s no risk free investment makes investing difficult most times, knowledge is needed yet even with the appropriate knowledge trading can be difficult compared to investing. Not minding the more profit you get after trade it’s easier to experience a loss when trading due to market fluctuation etc.
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March 20, 2025, 12:19:29 AM
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Both of these things have their own risks, I believe that people who have good knowledge and skills in both of these things can certainly get quite good profits, but for those who do not have good enough knowledge, it will be difficult to get profits, but maybe with this trading it is more attached to skills and knowledge with the investment itself, it seems to depend on what type of investment it is. But maybe trading can be more difficult than investing, because I think when someone is going to invest in a business, what must be considered is that they must see the person who will receive the investment, whether the person is trustworthy or not, in other words, whether they can be trusted or not. Because there are also quite a lot of people who are not trustworthy when receiving investments from other people.
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March 20, 2025, 01:34:09 AM
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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
While that can be true sometimes but the thing is most of the traders are losing. Even in spot, the market is very unpredictable in its own ways. I do agree that if a trader is skilled, they can adapt to any changes and unpredictability of the market. But even so, you can't dictate the market and you have to come along on its own term.

Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?
It's because of lesser effort which makes it better. You don't have to be too active in the market involvement trying to be better than the other traders who are also hustlin' just like you.

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March 20, 2025, 03:23:15 PM
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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?

If you feel you have the ability to make profits from  trading , you can take advantage of it and no one can stop you from doing so. But if you believe  that trading can be more profitable than investing,  I doubt it .

Have you ever seen someone get rich in the financial markets and claim they did it through trading? Like in the crypto market, have you met or seen someone getting rich from bitcoin trading or are most of them early and long term investors in bitcoin?

Trading can be profitable if we have knowledge, skills...but I don't believe it will bring better returns than investing .

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March 20, 2025, 03:42:20 PM
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Trading we cause you more damage than investing.
Many people I see that their economy has increased from year to year from ordinary economy to be extraordinary, it is all because they do Investment, investment everyone can do it, in contrast to what trade is they did in the Crypto market.

We are aware that trade can also improve one's economy, but for those who are experts in trade, not all of them can do that, can be calculated by fingers, but general investment is felt by the community What else is patient with the crypto market they do, so there is no mistake in investment and trade two things that can produce the best economy for those who do it.

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March 20, 2025, 05:44:49 PM
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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?
I would love you to prove this with statistics and historic data and not just words. Let's use Bitcoin investment for example, history had proven that those who invested and have held for at least 10 years now have experienced at least 335x on their investment. I'll live you to show me a trader that can boast of such returns and it's availability of date.

Bitcoin investment gives you a compounding effect on your investment with it's price appreciation. Now in trading, even though they get those funds, they don't hold it, most of them spend it and in so doing, they cannot boast of equal wealth ratio with holders.

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March 20, 2025, 10:17:56 PM
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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?

If you feel you have the ability to make profits from  trading , you can take advantage of it and no one can stop you from doing so. But if you believe  that trading can be more profitable than investing,  I doubt it .

Have you ever seen someone get rich in the financial markets and claim they did it through trading? Like in the crypto market, have you met or seen someone getting rich from bitcoin trading or are most of them early and long term investors in bitcoin?

Trading can be profitable if we have knowledge, skills...but I don't believe it will bring better returns than investing .

Though there are people out there who are making millions in trading, did you remember that they're some people who can be considered as expert traders. But for the fact that they're expert in trading those not mean that they don't experience lose in the market. of course they do experience lose, but due to their strategies and also their level of knowledge towards trading always guide them from not experience much loses in trading. Though i have never seen a trader who makes millions in trading that's physically, but I guess I have seen some of them in the media though I don't know if those traders are actually saying the truth. But with the way they were talking about it I think is real.

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March 21, 2025, 02:43:30 AM
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Though there are people out there who are making millions in trading, did you remember that they're some people who can be considered as expert traders. But for the fact that they're expert in trading those not mean that they don't experience lose in the market. of course they do experience lose, but due to their strategies and also their level of knowledge towards trading always guide them from not experience much loses in trading. Though i have never seen a trader who makes millions in trading that's physically, but I guess I have seen some of them in the media though I don't know if those traders are actually saying the truth. But with the way they were talking about it I think is real.

There are many traders who can make millions of dollars and that is normal but the problem is to make millions of dollars they also need capital of millions or even tens of millions of dollars. Meanwhile, long-term investors can make millions of dollars with just a few thousand or tens of thousands of dollars in initial capital. Honestly, I have rarely seen a trader who can do that, they can make millions of dollars and become rich with their modest starting capital. But many long term investors have done it and that is why I believe that trading cannot give better returns than investing.

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March 21, 2025, 07:02:58 PM
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To me this is a wise statement, because trading and investing are two different thing in the financial market, while both has buying and selling of assets, they have characteristics and risks that make them different.
Let look at the characteristics and risks that make them different, though both are risky, but one is less risky and more profitable than the other.

It is more than a wise statement honestly both trading and investing don't really have a tangible difference but then they share similar goals in generating profits but clearly looking at it you're entirely correct that trading will only cause you more damage and loss than investing, because investment last for a long term while trading is mostly short term cause the main aim is to buy at low price and sell at a very profitable price so definitely considering the risks involved I definitely know trading be less profitable than investing.

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I wouldn't say that trading can cause more damages than investing, we still have a lot of traders in the game and they are making huge profits too, we all have our different opinions and we think differently. Not everyone has the patience to invest in Bitcoin on the Long period terms, I believe that traders enjoy the thrill of the markets and are willing to put in time and effort to develop their trading skills, most traders have been able to study and navigate the market and they are being incredibly rewarded for it via profits. 

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I wouldn't say that trading can cause more damages than investing, we still have a lot of traders in the game and they are making huge profits too, we all have our different opinions and we think differently. Not everyone has the patience to invest in Bitcoin on the Long period terms, I believe that traders enjoy the thrill of the markets and are willing to put in time and effort to develop their trading skills, most traders have been able to study and navigate the market and they are being incredibly rewarded for it via profits.  

But I still agree with the author of the topic. It seems to me that he said everything absolutely accurately, and I say this from my own experience. Of course, I like investing, but it requires a lot of patience. I think that investing is more for those who have a large deposit.They can sit absolutely calmly and wait for the percentage of profit. But those who have a small deposit, they need to play this game aggressively and therefore most prefer to intervene in the market with their own hands, trading in cryptocurrency pairs, but, unfortunately, despite how you described that there are successful traders most of them are still those who lose money in this market.
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I wouldn't say that trading can cause more damages than investing, we still have a lot of traders in the game and they are making huge profits too, we all have our different opinions and we think differently. Not everyone has the patience to invest in Bitcoin on the Long period terms, I believe that traders enjoy the thrill of the markets and are willing to put in time and effort to develop their trading skills, most traders have been able to study and navigate the market and they are being incredibly rewarded for it via profits. 
Usually these kind of lines do came from into those people who had tested out trading but ending up on having that loses on which they had made out some direct conclusions that trading does really that create even more loses than just simply investing. Come to think that trading can be considered out as investing too on which it is really just that making that possibility at the moment that you have decided to make up some long term hods and selling out at the right time or at the moment that you've been seen that sufficient profits or goals that you had been set. It all matters into someones approach and preference on how things do being handled it out. The most important stuff on here is that you do really know on how to handle yourself whether on trading or investing, put up in mind that everything will really be basing up into someones risks management on which whether you are really that needing to consider it out. Damage could really be done or would be that happening but as the moment that you do able to get such experience then you will be making out adjustments accordingly. Loses are inevitable and something that cant be stopped nor be avoided on which it is really that part of it, there are really just that people who cant just easily accept these probabilities on which instead that they will be needing up to adjust, they do rather make themselves that impulsive on which it do ends up for them to have that kind of gambler like kind of approach.
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To me this is a wise statement, because trading and investing are two different thing in the financial market, while both has buying and selling of assets, they have characteristics and risks that make them different.
Let look at the characteristics and risks that make them different, though both are risky, but one is less risky and more profitable than the other.

It is more than a wise statement honestly both trading and investing don't really have a tangible difference but then they share similar goals in generating profits but clearly looking at it you're entirely correct that trading will only cause you more damage and loss than investing, because investment last for a long term while trading is mostly short term cause the main aim is to buy at low price and sell at a very profitable price so definitely considering the risks involved I definitely know trading be less profitable than investing.
There is a big difference between trading and investing in terms of risk and long-term potential. Trading is something that has a lot of potential for profit as well as loss, it can be said that you will make a lot of profit in some trading in the short term, but when your bad luck starts, you will only lose every time you take a trade. It is not possible for everyone to be successful in trading, and there are many investors who used to trade before, but could not survive the additional losses of trading and turned to investing.

In fact, the biggest difference between trading and investing is the level of risk. Although there is risk in investing, it is usually much less than the risk of trading, because the possibility of the asset value increasing according to the natural trend of the market over a long period of time is at its highest level, but short-term volatility will definitely exist, and the investor has to ignore this volatility.

Many people think that trading is more profitable, but when they face the reality of trading, they get an idea about the real risks of trading, most traders cannot survive in the long run and face huge losses. But if an investor maintains his holdings for the long term, he can definitely profitable.











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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?
Money that is left to sleep will never have any profit because profit will never come by itself on any fiat money, but if the money has been converted into assets such as Bitcoin and has been considered as an investment, of course there will be profit when the price of Bitcoin increases. So there is nothing wrong with someone trying their luck in investing even though trading can also be another field to reap profits if someone does have more skills and knowledge in trading. But if you pay attention to the risk side itself, it is clear that trading is much riskier than investing so this must also be the main consideration for those who want to make a profit through trading because market conditions always have fluctuations that are not easy for anyone to predict.

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Investments especially in Bitcoin are always profitable because Bitcoin follows a circle and makes a new all-time high one day at the end of each circle. So those who can invest in bitcoin at dip can definitely profit.  But those who aim to trade most of the time lose because price of every crypto is volatile due to price movement and traders always panic and sell their investment coins at a loss when the price goes down.  And to recover that loss they have to make more profit on the next trade which everyone can do.  So trading is always risky and greedy. so investing is always appreciable
Trading is very risky, making profit from trading requires some level of understanding,  if you are not patience in the market and not also ready to learn when , it will be always difficult to make profit from trading. Investing bitcoin the risk involve can't be compared like that of trading but one still have to get a good understanding of bitcoin investment because when one is just investing to quick make money it can be very risky and very difficult for one to have the patience to hodl for long which can lead to selling bitcoin at lose.

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Investments especially in Bitcoin are always profitable because Bitcoin follows a circle and makes a new all-time high one day at the end of each circle. So those who can invest in bitcoin at dip can definitely profit.  But those who aim to trade most of the time lose because price of every crypto is volatile due to price movement and traders always panic and sell their investment coins at a loss when the price goes down.  And to recover that loss they have to make more profit on the next trade which everyone can do.  So trading is always risky and greedy. so investing is always appreciable
Trading is very risky, making profit from trading requires some level of understanding,  if you are not patience in the market and not also ready to learn when , it will be always difficult to make profit from trading. Investing bitcoin the risk involve can't be compared like that of trading but one still have to get a good understanding of bitcoin investment because when one is just investing to quick make money it can be very risky and very difficult for one to have the patience to hodl for long which can lead to selling bitcoin at lose.
If you cannot trade properly, it is never possible to make a profit from trading, as easy as people think trading is at first, when they get real experience, they realize how difficult trading is. They face losses due to a few mistakes during trading market analysis, and that is why not everyone can be successful in trading, because not everyone can analyze the market correctly. The market constantly fluctuates uncertainly, so if you think of short-term profits, you will have to face losses most of the time. That is why you have to know the risks first, if you have the ability to take high risks, then you trade, otherwise it would be best to investing long-term.

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Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?

There are lots of factors that can make someone to lose money in trading if care is not taken, there is a major one and that one is not well discussed and brainstorm enough and that's trading portion. As a trader that is starting as beginner or a trader that is not a newbie but still in the process of learning, you don't need to have trades with large portion, start with small portion and see the losses and profits you are making, that way you can increase it with time.

If you are starting a trading for the first time, you have no business using $1k as a portion of your trading, you will get chopped by stop loss continuesly until you have nothing left again. There are times that market can be tricky that if you don't know your ways, youtr stop loss will be triggered all the time and you might not make anything for that day of you are a day trader and s swing trader. Learn to u understand trading with small portion before you go bigger.
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Frankly, trading was the magical solution sold to greedy investors who don't have patience to draw long term goals, neither to wait long periods of time until gathering the fruits of their investments.

With trading, it's said you can maximize financial returns in short periods of time, while not being necessary to start with big sums of money. It's a fertile niche for scammers who are trying to earn comissions over traders through referral links, or for those who want to sell online courses teaching trading mechanisms.

It's been about 10 years I'm following this market, and I'm not familiar with many successful stories involving trading activity. There are many losses on this industry by traders, and those who managed to achieve progress for a while migrated to another sectors of financial market (especially to focus on investments).

I think there is too much fantasy and daydream on the expectations people create regards trading. After all, it's not much different from gambling.

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