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February 22, 2025, 07:42:59 PM
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Although I use to have that believe before, because I usually invest in bitcoin and get my returns, so that made me to believe that returns are guaranteed in bitcoin investment, on till a legendary member by the name jayguangee opened my eyes that was when I started facing reality.

What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.

1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.

2,bitcoin price can fluctuate rapidly and unpredictablily, which can result to significant looses.

3,bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, that is to say there is no central authority to guarantee returns or provide insurance.

4,bitcoin is considered to be a high risk investment, which means there are no guarantee of returns or protection against looses.

Which am now concluding with this word of advice to my fellow members who loves bitcoin investment, to approach this investment with caution and a clear understanding of potential risks and rewards.

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February 22, 2025, 07:59:14 PM
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All these you outlined are the basics we should know about bitcoin investment or cryptocurrency investment as they are extremely volatile and you could completely lose your investment. Like I do say, i don't really encourage beginners to go investment in altcoin shitcoin that would not last for long. The entire cryptocurrency market is volatile but the most reliable amongst all is bitcoin, which create several ATH at this point during bear market some altcoins tends to crash and never rise again but after that bitcoin still rises above all and still create new ATH while some other coin may collapsed.

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February 22, 2025, 08:07:56 PM
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Although I use to have that believe before, because I usually invest in bitcoin and get my returns, so that made me to believe that returns are guaranteed in bitcoin investment, on till a legendary member by the name jayguangee opened my eyes that was when I started facing reality.

What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.

1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.

2,bitcoin price can fluctuate rapidly and unpredictablily, which can result to significant looses.

3,bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, that is to say there is no central authority to guarantee returns or provide insurance.

4,bitcoin is considered to be a high risk investment, which means there are no guarantee of returns or protection against looses.

Which am now concluding with this word of advice to my fellow members who loves bitcoin investment, to approach this investment with caution and a clear understanding of potential risks and rewards.
First off, you're not getting the name correctly, it's JayjuanGee and not JayguanGee as you spelt it out. Also, I've been following him for a while, he's a serious advocate of Bitcoin investment in this forum with broad knowledge about it and from your statements, that doesn't seem like what he'll teach people about Bitcoin, maybe you're misunderstanding his point and need to go get a clear understanding of what he's saying so you don't mislead people.
 The market risks you're talking about doesn't affect Bitcoin in anyway, it's not like shitcoins that pumps and dump totally and cause a rugpull, yes it highly volatile but volatility does affect investors especially when dca is involved I don't know where you got that point from.
 The decentralisation of Bitcoin makes it more perfect cause it can't be controlled by any authorities or regulatory bodies even though their are some circumstances that affects the market negatively or positively, over the years it's shown potential to make corrections after the price drops, moreover have you ever heard that the Bitcoin blockchain has been hacked since it's history? No is the answer, hence no need for insurance just buy and hold for longer period then you're good to go.
 I can't believe you just said bitcoin is a high risk investment, what would you talk about shitcoins if you say so, are you trying to relate it with shitcoins? Cause left for me it's proven to be the best crypto for investment, you should do more research to under Bitcoin investment better stop misleading people or misquoting JayjuanGee just cause you want to make a post.

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February 22, 2025, 08:12:54 PM
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4,bitcoin is considered to be a high risk investment, which means there are no guarantee of returns or protection against looses.
If you are investing in bitcoin at the right time and also using the right strategy, you will not lose. Even those that did not use any strategy but invested in bitcoin in a year ago and more than a year ago are all still in profit. Bitcoin price is increasing and more people are buying it. Bitcoin investment is not as risky as some people thought. What that are risky are altcoins like the memecoins which are gambling and they are also heavily manipulated with insider trading.

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February 22, 2025, 08:16:05 PM
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Anyone investing in cryptocurrency as a whole should have it at the back of their mind that they are investing in highly risky investments which they can end up losing their money that is why we should invest with an amount that if our investment does not work as we plan it won't affect us emotionally. Be it bitcoin or other cryptocurrency they are all volatile in nature which means they can increase and decrease within a short period of time so invest wisely and don't invest with the idea that you will keep on making profits so that in a case when the price begins to fall, you won't call cryptocurrency as scam as some people who invested blindly without an understanding of what cryptocurrency is all about. And as for bitcoin particularly, it should be invested with a long-term purpose so that you don't start expecting profits within a short interval of time. If you want to invest in bitcoin you need to be very patient and allow your investment to grow while you are making accumulations.

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Just don't hope for faster recovery of price when the dip happens. It could take time and the ones who think a short term investment will give yield, its not that easy.  Even the old investors who have been in BTC since the start, BTC didn't give them high rewards until they see the cycle had restarted.

It takes a new cycle which I think the market will keep the market going up after another few months of downtrend. Its a waiting game.
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Despite the downtrend of BTC currently, there's still hope of it rising to $120k - $150k before the middle of this year and one thing we must know is that the best way to get meaningful profit from any investment in Bitcoin is to DCA for a long duration. Otherwise trading BTC on the market may not be as profitable as trading altcoins or shit coins when they do pump.

Bitcoin is also the driving force for any new crypto currency and should it begin to fail, then there might just be a collapse in digital currency adoption.
Therefore anyone investing in it has some form of trust that BTC will yield profit continuously or will rise in value when it's time to sell or diversify BTC portfolio.

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What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.
It's obvious you may have misunderstood everything jayguange meant in whatever statement he may have said regarding Bitcoin as not having a guarantee of return of investment, because that's the same statement many people said when Bitcoin was $10k per BTC, and those same people saw Bitcoin rose to $30k per BTC and now currently been valued at $93k per BTC, and yet it's sad those people don't still believe that Bitcoin is the best asset for return of investment for long term. And not for those who made wishes for quick returns in a short while.

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1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.
There is no change in it's supply of Bitcoin my friend, as Bitcoin remains 21 million in total supply, whose value is affected by market demand and supply. But on the contrary, Bitcoin remains the best asset for long term investment, far better than banks.

 
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February 22, 2025, 09:58:14 PM
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OP, if you have followed that thread properly you should know that Bitcoin increases over time so as a long term Bitcoin investor your returns are guaranteed as long as you keep accumulating, maintain security and use a decent strategy to invest. Am not saying there is not risk in Bitcoin investment of course every investment comes with its own risk but you will only lose on your investment when you open your investment to risk. You can mitigate the risk or completely not allow your investment to be prone to risk if you do things right. 
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February 22, 2025, 10:57:55 PM
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What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.
It's obvious you may have misunderstood everything jayguange meant in whatever statement he may have said regarding Bitcoin as not having a guarantee of return of investment, because that's the same statement many people said when Bitcoin was $10k per BTC, and those same people saw Bitcoin rose to $30k per BTC and now currently been valued at $93k per BTC, and yet it's sad those people don't still believe that Bitcoin is the best asset for return of investment for long term. And not for those who made wishes for quick returns in a short while.

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1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.
There is no change in it's supply of Bitcoin my friend, as Bitcoin remains 21 million in total supply, whose value is affected by market demand and supply. But on the contrary, Bitcoin remains the best asset for long term investment, far better than banks.
we don't have to be sentimental when discussing about bitcoin investment, because nobody is saying that bitcoin investment is not profitable, even myself have made money from bitcoin investment. But let me ask this one question, why are we always advise to invest in bitcoin what we can afford to lose, if bitcoin guarantee returns, because this is exactly where I'm getting focus when it comes to bitcoin investment. What is that advice for I need someone to answer the question. Because I want to know the reason for that advice and I want to learn from it too.

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February 23, 2025, 01:58:06 PM
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we don't have to be sentimental when discussing about bitcoin investment, because nobody is saying that bitcoin investment is not profitable, even myself have made money from bitcoin investment. But let me ask this one question, why are we always advise to invest in bitcoin what we can afford to lose, if bitcoin guarantee returns, because this is exactly where I'm getting focus when it comes to bitcoin investment. What is that advice for I need someone to answer the question. Because I want to know the reason for that advice and I want to learn from it too.

Bitcoin is a voatile asset and I hope you understand what fluntuation is too, as a volatile asset Bitcoin is, it means it can drop beyond individual investor expectation and rise too at any given time, so it is advisable for people to investor with what they afford because it is unwise for an investment to borrow money or to access a loan facility in other to invest in a long-term asset like Bitcoin that's highly volatile, you can only use what you can afford or do a DCA of either weekly or monthly with the amount that conveniently fits your financial status in other not to be either emotionally pressured to withdraw from the said asset which is meant to be for a long-term, I know you may be thinking that the main reason for this advise may be because unforseen circumstances like loss in the process, huddy I must tell you that the reason for such advise is not losing your Bitcoin, as a matter of fact you can only lose your Bitcoin when you lose your keys or passphrase but as for losing it when you're still seeing the figures in your wallet there's nothing of such, your bitcoin can depreciate in price depending on the status of the market and rises as the market appreciates, so the major reason for that advise is for individual not to use both the funds meant for personal use or emergency to invest in Bitcoin knowing fully well that bitcoin investment is meant for a long term and to avoid premature withdrawal decision.

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February 23, 2025, 04:59:02 PM
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Although I use to have that believe before, because I usually invest in bitcoin and get my returns, so that made me to believe that returns are guaranteed in bitcoin investment, on till a legendary member by the name jayguangee opened my eyes that was when I started facing reality.

What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.

1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.

2,bitcoin price can fluctuate rapidly and unpredictablily, which can result to significant looses.

3,bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, that is to say there is no central authority to guarantee returns or provide insurance.

4,bitcoin is considered to be a high risk investment, which means there are no guarantee of returns or protection against looses.

Which am now concluding with this word of advice to my fellow members who loves bitcoin investment, to approach this investment with caution and a clear understanding of potential risks and rewards.
I don't understand what you have understood from jayguangee's words. Listening to your statement, it seems that you were once a trader. You used to trade Bitcoin and get returns. As far as we investors know, Bitcoin requires a certain amount of time to generate returns. But, you are claiming that investing in Bitcoin is risky. Which seems ridiculous to me. Cheesy Grin If you really claim that Bitcoin is a risky coin, then I am wondering what you would call Altcoin, sitcoin.

The first 3 points you mentioned about Bitcoin are the basic points of Bitcoin. But, I could not agree with the 4th point you mentioned. Just because the Bitcoin market is volatile, you can't call it a risky investment. The DCA method has been invented to control this unstable market. The DCA method is the best to make your investment more secure over time. If you invest in this way in small amounts and at regular intervals, you will have a secure financial system after 4-10 years.

We know that Bitcoin is not an asset for short-term investment. It's about continuing to invest in the long term and creating a wealth for yourself. If you want to keep your money safe and build a wealth for your future, then Bitcoin is one of them. In addition, you can also keep gold or land, but I think digital assets are better for the beginning.

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February 23, 2025, 05:05:52 PM
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Most of the ideas jayguangee gave you about Bitcoin are correct. I disagree with the idea he gave in terms of getting returns. I think Bitcoin does not carry a huge risk like other shitcoins. You can get high returns as a result of long-term savings. You can only evaluate the future by analyzing the past. Bitcoin is a volatile and valuable asset with a lot of future potential. Compared to the dumping that has happened in the past, there has been a lot of aggressive pumping and investors are taking profits. The regret of those who took profits has increased. Their understanding was that holding is more profitable.











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February 23, 2025, 08:20:10 PM
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Although I use to have that believe before, because I usually invest in bitcoin and get my returns, so that made me to believe that returns are guaranteed in bitcoin investment, on till a legendary member by the name jayguangee opened my eyes that was when I started facing reality.

What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.

1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.

2,bitcoin price can fluctuate rapidly and unpredictablily, which can result to significant looses.

3,bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, that is to say there is no central authority to guarantee returns or provide insurance.

4,bitcoin is considered to be a high risk investment, which means there are no guarantee of returns or protection against looses.

Which am now concluding with this word of advice to my fellow members who loves bitcoin investment, to approach this investment with caution and a clear understanding of potential risks and rewards.


When you said you use to invest in Bitcoin and get your return it appears to me that you are trader because it's only traders and gamblers that buy and take profit or expect profit very soon after buying and with this approach I doubt if your return will be guarantee because you are trading it instead of holding it. Apparently, all your points seems to be pointing towards trading because it is only when you are trading you will be talking about high risk and losses in Bitcoin. An investor doesn't care if Bitcoin is fluctuating or not because the target is to keep accumulating and holding for the future. The points you mentioned I doubt if I have come across JayJuanGee  post that states all these you are saying because.

 
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Which am now concluding with this word of advice to my fellow members who loves bitcoin investment, to approach this investment with caution and a clear understanding of potential risks and rewards.
Wetin Dey kill most people wey Dey put money for bitcoin na because they lack knowledge about am, most of dem just wan put money, because dem see say people Dey put money, and dem Dey make profit, so Dey wan start am also, without having proper knowledge about Wetin e even Dey about.

Some people think say immediately dem put money for bitcoin, dem go make profit instantly, but dem no sabi say things no really Dey work like that, some of them even think say Dey no fit lose money if dem invest in bitcoin, but Dem no sabi say e Dey very easy to lose money self if you no do d right thing.

I notice say all this crypto signal provider Dey always mislead people, Dey go make mouth say na there signal be d best, and anybody wey fit join there group no go ever lose money, but immediately you join, then story go change. So I see say people like that Dey cause problem for us also, because they are always misleading, and they are doing that just for their own selfish interest.

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Nothing is guaranteed in life as everything is based on probability and all we should try do is to enjoy we keep this in mind in our decision making processes by looking at high probability businesses at every point in time. Bitcoin has a high probability of success when bought and hel for long time which means there is high chance that anyone who invest in bitcoin, will make good returns on investment. However, nothing is guaranteed neither is anything promised.

Bitcoin gaining more visibility and recognition all over the world becomes more reasonable for anyone to join the ongoing trend of Bitcoin even with as little as possible why waiting for what may or may not happen which is better than not having it at all, those that invested earlier must have been in good position by now, the spotlight is more brighter and better in this world of technology and it's not going to have an end, making hay while the sun shines to avoid regret. I see it will only take a longer time just be patient.

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There is a huge knowledge gap in the crypto space even though the information is available for free online. The thing is many people have this misconception about Bitcoin. They believe that bitcoin is some magic internet money, that if they invest money in bitcoin they would make x10 profits the next day or week. It’s these unrealistic expectations that make a lot of these people to fall for scammers and bad actors on the internet.

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Although I use to have that believe before, because I usually invest in bitcoin and get my returns, so that made me to believe that returns are guaranteed in bitcoin investment, on till a legendary member by the name jayguangee opened my eyes that was when I started facing reality.

What jayguangee said made me to understand that, for the fact that bitcoin has shown significant growth and retures in the past, there are no guarantee of returns when investing in bitcoin, with numerous reasons, but few to be mentioned.

1,bitcoin is expose to various market risk, which includes changes in supply and demand, regulatory changes and global economic conditions.

2,bitcoin price can fluctuate rapidly and unpredictablily, which can result to significant looses.

3,bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, that is to say there is no central authority to guarantee returns or provide insurance.

4,bitcoin is considered to be a high risk investment, which means there are no guarantee of returns or protection against looses.

Which am now concluding with this word of advice to my fellow members who loves bitcoin investment, to approach this investment with caution and a clear understanding of potential risks and rewards.

This words are not wrong but from what we have seen and experience i don't times with all these obstacles is very close bitcoin is still profitable from today till tomorrow just buy and thank me latter. One thing about life is for you to see negativity and get discouraged or see the positivity and grow tremendously. Most successful people are those who refuse to give listening ears to negative energy, they kept their mind and attention focused on the goal and kept deaf ears to discouragement. I'll advise you do thesame because even before you compiled this type of reasoning many person have also come up with this reasoning and that will only lead to procrastination with usually end up in regrets

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2,bitcoin price can fluctuate rapidly and unpredictablily, which can result to significant looses.
the volatility of bitcoin does not mean that when the price of bitcoin experiences a correction that you are at loss. it doesn't work that. even work the market is down for a long time, with patience and the ability to work till the market recovers, it can still place one at a good profit. volatility can be an advantage to the investor depending on how the investor responds to it. for the investor that seems downward volatility as an opportunity of stacking more bitcoin to his portfolio, volatility is more of a blessing than what possess the threat of a loss.
3,bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, that is to say there is no central authority to guarantee returns or provide insurance.
even in the other forms of investment that are controlled by the government, none of them has a guarantee of a returns on investment. the decentralized nature of bitcoin is more about the total ownership and control of bitcoin by the holder and not that it lacks guarantee of returns. its risk is well spelt out and with proper investment plans, returns wouldn't be an issue as long as the investor is investing for the long term.


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