Holydarkness and Casino Disputes—Something’s Fishy

[Horsbyname]

The bet you provided is also played on 33% chance, like I've stated, but please continue to lie.

Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

You said “The bet you provided is also played on 33% chance,” what’s that mean by the way? Is it like you have now my bets result that showing the Wining chances ? Weren’t you claiming that there is no data which can provide the details of the bet amount, Bet wining chances, Bet position if placed high or low side? How come you have it now? And when will you post it to prove that I am a lire, and I’ve not played on 15.5% Chances? .


You are wrong – or maybe you haven’t read the post but jumped, more than me you are attacking him TBH. I don’t know about him until he jumped in to my thread and tried his best for a casino “casinos” who know-Now I know some about him.

OP knows very well about you but is falsely creating a narrative to divert the attention back to his case.

Anyway I think you want to read this as well, this is not only me who think Holydarkness is a representative of a casino but many out there.

BTW are you actually a BC Game representative? It's very weird to need you to help out when they should be the ones on their own taking care of customers.

It's not weird for you to step in, in this forum we do it all the time. What is weird that after you stepped in the casino doesn't take over

We shouldn't need to rely on people like you with personal contact. I also had personal contact with Bitvest before and BJF, but always, we tell them hello, someone needs your attention, they say thank you, and they take it from there. Always. That's how you take care of a customer. Sorry if you feel offended (and you shouldn't be, BC Game should be the one taking offence and responding here

It's always ok for me, it's never ok for the customer to get secondhand messages

If I dig further I believe there is lot people who have doubted him not only me.



I am going to trust holydarkness for something that I am sure of, and let’s see what come out.


@holydarkness you have my consent.

But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, let's say I can get Kirito89 to show me what's allowed by DuckDice to be seen by a third party [me] that will prove beyond doubt that you do tried to extort the casino, that you're not as clean and a poor victim of DuckDice as you try [and failed] to portray, do we [the public here is the witness] have your consent to let DuckDice release that info to me, as well as your words that you trust that I'll stand on neutral ground and reported to the public what I see 100% based on what I see, be it in favor of you or to DuckDice?

[holydarkness]

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I am going to trust holydarkness for something that I am sure of, and let’s see what come out.


@holydarkness you have my consent.

But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, let's say I can get Kirito89 to show me what's allowed by DuckDice to be seen by a third party [me] that will prove beyond doubt that you do tried to extort the casino, that you're not as clean and a poor victim of DuckDice as you try [and failed] to portray, do we [the public here is the witness] have your consent to let DuckDice release that info to me, as well as your words that you trust that I'll stand on neutral ground and reported to the public what I see 100% based on what I see, be it in favor of you or to DuckDice?

Sure, I think Kirito will read that you've given your consent when he logged back in. I'll reach him too, just in case. But for the time being, perhaps you can address my post that's currently sitting sadly in the corner? The one about the purpose of your thread? I think you accidentally missed them.

[slaman29]

Hello OP I am just coming in here because I got quoted.

I would like to clarify. My doubts or rather my questions, have less to do about Holydarkness reputation.

If anybody knows me I stay 100% away as much as possible from forum meta and forum reputation because I have a life and if I fight with people I prefer to see them in front of me close enough so they can punch me and I can punch them back. Online everybody is a damn hero.

My posts that you quoted were actually casting doubt on the casino

About that we are enabling bad casinos by stepping in on their behalf. How you want to read that and how that can be related to Holydarkness coming out to speak on their behalf while they remained silent is totally your perception Any casino who does business like this should not be trusted.

But I do think we need to stop enabling bad behavior for sure.

BTW, super friendly advice from me. If you have no reputation on this forum, and don't have clicks here on this highly esteemed network of buddies, I highly suggest for you don't start shit up because friends of friends will come in and smash you up. You want to be gangster, you must form your own gang first I guess. I guess you know it by now

[Horsbyname]

Nop, I didn’t abandon any of my statements, All I am asking for is Transparency, which is never provided, I wanted to see if my bets were fair or it was manipulated because losing 0.37 btc at 15.5% wining chances and having 158 losses in a row is something shady as hell, smells unfair at all, Speacialy with duckdice.io history, Where they have been caught red handed manipulating a user bets before,they admitted and refunded the user.

But you don’t want to read such statements of mine right? Or you maybe miss them by mistake-who know.

It is clear that I am looking to see if my bets were fair or if it was manipulated.

If more emails are requested, i can look into it, but what I really want is for the representative to provide my bet history here. This would allow me to verify the outcomes and ensure my losses were fair, which would help satisfy me and put my mind at ease regarding this matter.

I want to emphasize that I have no personal grievances against Duckdce. My sole concern is ensuring clarity and fairness in the results of my bets. However, given their history of accusing users and manipulating bets in the past—and the fact that they have accused me as well—I’m finding it hard to trust their legitimacy.

Kirito89 Out here accusing me of sending them blackmail emails sometimes with trustpilot reviews sometimes with wining chances and when it time to provide evidence he will dodge it.
My intent’s clear- I want proof that my bets were not manipulated, But they won’t show any result, any data until its in favor of Duckdice, Instead they just more figure pointing.


But Holydarkness, Why you pulling always the same tactic when Kirito89 gets pressed for proofs?

Kirito89, I've got a written consent through PM from OP to validate the situation of similar email account. It came with several terms, but after mulling over it the entire day, I think the best approach is to actually leave both parties in the blind, so, simplified, kindly provide me [through PM, not here publicly] the evidence of those email similarities, and I'll take it from there, if you don't mind.

And OP, while we wait for DuckDice with that ball in their court, perhaps you can do something with the one in your own court? The one from my previous post about the discrepancy in the narrative of the bets?

Andddd

Umm... actually, I can't find the other instances where he asked permission to publish the data, other than on #94. Unless I am wrong? Do you mind to point us out to the other --at least-- three other instances?



Anyway, I realized we had an unfinished discussion about your review that got deleted, I understand correctly that it's against TP's policy to post a review about an experience that happened more than a year ago? Granted, I can find a mention that they prefer a fresh review that is not older than 12 months, but not about they'll delete it as it's against their policy.

Just to keep us assured, did they send you an email about the removal and explained to you that it got deleted due to the reason you specified to us?

What’s up with that? You playing Buddy buddy or what?


Anyway lets come to the proofs point.

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.


We are at the point where Kirito89 gotta back his accusations. I’ve accepted your deal, gave consent already Now the ball’s in his court.

[Kirito89]

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I am going to trust holydarkness for something that I am sure of, and let’s see what come out.


@holydarkness you have my consent.

But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, let's say I can get Kirito89 to show me what's allowed by DuckDice to be seen by a third party [me] that will prove beyond doubt that you do tried to extort the casino, that you're not as clean and a poor victim of DuckDice as you try [and failed] to portray, do we [the public here is the witness] have your consent to let DuckDice release that info to me, as well as your words that you trust that I'll stand on neutral ground and reported to the public what I see 100% based on what I see, be it in favor of you or to DuckDice?

Sure, I think Kirito will read that you've given your consent when he logged back in. I'll reach him too, just in case. But for the time being, perhaps you can address my post that's currently sitting sadly in the corner? The one about the purpose of your thread? I think you accidentally missed them.

Hi there, I agree with this . Will send you all relevant information.   1. Showing OP has lied about his bets, 2. Emails from him asking for money.






Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

[holydarkness]

Nop, I didn’t abandon any of my statements, All I am asking for is Transparency, which is never provided, I wanted to see if my bets were fair or it was manipulated because losing 0.37 btc at 15.5% wining chances and having 158 losses in a row is something shady as hell, smells unfair at all, Speacialy with duckdice.io history, Where they have been caught red handed manipulating a user bets before,they admitted and refunded the user.

But you don’t want to read such statements of mine right? Or you maybe miss them by mistake-who know.
[...]

Again, I read every posts [thus, statements] of yours, thus the question of your real intent with all of those posts. I am glad that it is now clarified that all you want is transparency and not a compensation for your loss.

Hi there, I agree with this . Will send you all relevant information.   1. Showing OP has lied about his bets, 2. Emails from him asking for money.






Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

Kirito, I will be waiting for these.

[Horsbyname]

@Holydarkness  got any evidences? Its been more than 48 hrs now since kirito89 said he will share it with you.

[holydarkness]

@Holydarkness  got any evidences? Its been more than 48 hrs now since kirito89 said he will share it with you.

Hmm... I haven't get them on my hand, and I haven't send him any message to notify him of the recent development of the situation, as I guess that'll be the best, upon both parties agreed that I can review the evidence. Lest I am being accused colluding and discussing matters with him, fabricating evidence, or the likes, that'll give birth to any idea that'll undo all the efforts of resolution and evidence-validation this far. And, with it, your questions of my reputation of being fishy with casino disputes.

So, I'll ask your permission to nudge him. Or we can wait for him to be back online and read my post himself?

[Horsbyname]

Hmm... I haven't get them on my hand, and I haven't send him any message to notify him of the recent development of the situation, as I guess that'll be the best, upon both parties agreed that I can review the evidence.

So, I'll ask your permission to nudge him. Or we can wait for him to be back online and read my post himself?

I am sure you don't have to send him any message to notify him of the situations, as he was here and he have responded already 3 days ago to your post.

Hi there, I agree with this . Will send you all relevant information.   1. Showing OP has lied about his bets, 2. Emails from him asking for money.


Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

You need my permission to send him a private message? Who know if you are already in contact? honestly I felt like you are over acting now.

So, I'll ask your permission to nudge him. Or we can wait for him to be back online and read my post himself?

While earlier you never felt the necessary to as ask for my permissions.

Sure, I think Kirito will read that you've given your consent when he logged back in. I'll reach him too, just in case.

At all why do we have to send him messages to respond? Isn't he a representative ? Or he just going to take rightfully holidays again?

[holydarkness]

Hmm... I haven't get them on my hand, and I haven't send him any message to notify him of the recent development of the situation, as I guess that'll be the best, upon both parties agreed that I can review the evidence.

So, I'll ask your permission to nudge him. Or we can wait for him to be back online and read my post himself?

I am sure you don't have to send him any message to notify him of the situations, as he was here and he have responded already 3 days ago to your post.

Ok, noted, won't text him.

You need my permission to send him a private message? Who know if you are already in contact? honestly I felt like you are over acting now.

So, I'll ask your permission to nudge him. Or we can wait for him to be back online and read my post himself?

While earlier you never felt the necessary to as ask for my permissions.

Sure, I think Kirito will read that you've given your consent when he logged back in. I'll reach him too, just in case.

At all why do we have to send him messages to respond? Isn't he a representative ? Or he just going to take rightfully holidays again?

Yep, I am overreacting, deliberately.

Why? For the reason perfectly depicted above, your paranoia about me and Kirito collaborating behind your back, me coaching him an answer... wait, it was him the one coached me an answer? I got that part of allegation mixed up. Bottom line, though, this is me overreacting, yes.

After all, this is a thread that questions my fishiness about casino disputes. So, I am deliberately take an extra length to show the OP of the thread that there is nothing fishy about me and disputes resolution with casinos. We [me and casino representatives] didn't discuss responses behind people's back, as the OP of this thread think and accused me of doing.

Why not before? Well, before, I am simply acting as a bridge between you both. I nudged him when he needed to respond, in case he got busy with other cases outside the forum and forgot to address this matter. After you both give your consent that my finding and ruling will bind both parties, I ceased from being a bridge. Thus, I cease from reaching him too, to maintain fairness and stressing that there is nothing fishy between me and casino disputes; that I simply nudging them and ensuring cases are stays moving toward resolution.

And no, I haven't been in contact with him since that last time I told you [and the forum] that I'll reach him and tell him that you've give your consent and the ball is now in his court. You need a proof of it? I can and are willing to show you, if you deemed it necessary.

[Horsbyname]

I am wondering how long it is going to take from the Duckdice.io representative to send you the evidences for accusations mentioned above, Isn't he using the same tictac he used earlier ? when it was time for him to post the evidences in public he get disappeared.

Why he get busy with other/personal things when it comes to provide proofs? Its been like 5 days since he said he will send you the evidences he have.

He should not need to gather it, as he has it already but to send it to you,(if he have to gather it now, It means he was accusing me without evidences) and if he have to gather it, considering he is the representative of Duckdice.io, it will not take that long from him to gather the evidences, as you said earlier he is getting paid to represent Duckdice.io, Nah?

He is the insider you know.


If he doesn’t provide that evidences "he claimed he have" to you within the next 24 hours, I will create a flag against Kirito89 and Holydarkness will be the first one to support the flag, right?

[JollyGood]

Whatever can be debated within the thread is different from the fact the intention of the OP was to occupy your time and he seems to have succeeded. Why on earth have you engaged with the OP for such a long length of time? You will not have anything to gain by prolonging this drama, you have after all given far too much attention to it.

And no, I haven't been in contact with him since that last time I told you [and the forum] that I'll reach him and tell him that you've give your consent and the ball is now in his court. You need a proof of it? I can and are willing to show you, if you deemed it necessary.

[nutildah]

If anybody knows me I stay 100% away as much as possible from forum meta and forum reputation because I have a life and if I fight with people I prefer to see them in front of me close enough so they can punch me and I can punch them back. Online everybody is a damn hero.

You didn't study OP's accusations enough... He complained about his bets not being provably fair over a year after they happened, and doesn't have evidence to back up the accusations. Holydarkness was very patient with OP, doing the best he could to assist, until the situation became a convoluted entanglement of accusations from both sides. Ultimately impossible to unravel, the fact remains: OP doesn't have evidence to support his claims, and we are not the only ones coming to this conclusion.

I'm just curious: if someone knew you were cheating or lying, could prove it, and called you out on it in real life, would you punch them?

[holydarkness]

I am wondering how long it is going to take from the Duckdice.io representative to send you the evidences for accusations mentioned above, Isn't he using the same tictac he used earlier ? when it was time for him to post the evidences in public he get disappeared.

Why he get busy with other/personal things when it comes to provide proofs? Its been like 5 days since he said he will send you the evidences he have.

He should not need to gather it, as he has it already but to send it to you,(if he have to gather it now, It means he was accusing me without evidences) and if he have to gather it, considering he is the representative of Duckdice.io, it will not take that long from him to gather the evidences, as you said earlier he is getting paid to represent Duckdice.io, Nah?

He is the insider you know.


If he doesn’t provide that evidences "he claimed he have" to you within the next 24 hours, I will create a flag against Kirito89 and Holydarkness will be the first one to support the flag, right?

Hi, I got his messaage and evidences earlier today, around 08:30, if that info is necessary and helps with context. But I haven't get any time to open it yet as I figure I'll need time to digest the info shared and I started my day kinda late today, so I don't have much time before I have to jump to other place.

I figured waiting for few more hours won't hurt, but it seems I was wrong.

Made this post from my phone [proof below] as it'll still be couple more hours before I can take a look into it. So some patience is kinda expected and much appreciated here.

[Beparanf]

If he doesn’t provide that evidences "he claimed he have" to you within the next 24 hours, I will create a flag against Kirito89 and Holydarkness will be the first one to support the flag, right?

It depends on what kind of evidence you are looking for. Because it will be very hard to convince you if you have already a fixed mind against the casino.

Holydarkness is just doing his job to help forum member to connect with the support. He is not part of the casino so the accusation on the OP is baseless and pure negativity just because he is siding on the casino due to the given facts.

[Kirito89]

If anybody knows me I stay 100% away as much as possible from forum meta and forum reputation because I have a life and if I fight with people I prefer to see them in front of me close enough so they can punch me and I can punch them back. Online everybody is a damn hero.

You didn't study OP's accusations enough... He complained about his bets not being provably fair over a year after they happened, and doesn't have evidence to back up the accusations. Holydarkness was very patient with OP, doing the best he could to assist, until the situation became a convoluted entanglement of accusations from both sides. Ultimately impossible to unravel, the fact remains: OP doesn't have evidence to support his claims, and we are not the only ones coming to this conclusion.

I'm just curious: if someone knew you were cheating or lying, could prove it, and called you out on it in real life, would you punch them?

I have provided the bet evidence to holydarkness, that Horsbyname has lied about the 15.5% chance he played on, aswell as the streak was simply a lie,  so hoping this, on top with blackmail emails, and the way OP has behaved on this forum, changing stories every time the narrative didn't go his way etc. Hopefully it will be enough to flag him and get this story over with.





Kirito89,


Duckdice Support.

[Horsbyname]

To those who have already jumped in support of Holydarkness

BTW, super friendly advice from me. If you have no reputation on this forum, and don't have clicks here on this highly esteemed network of buddies, I highly suggest for you don't start shit up because friends of friends will come in and smash you up. You want to be gangster, you must form your own gang first I guess. I guess you know it by now

I have every right to question him since he was the one who supported Duckdice.io in every possible way,


@kirito89 lets wait, we will se what you have sent to him.  I hope there will bo now a clear result of my bets - The result which was impossible to have earlier.


The Emails that you recived from me for 0.01 btc , and that email is similar to mine but different with one later and the trustpilot review that linked to my email posted by blackmailer.

[Kirito89]

@kirito89 lets wait, we will se what you have sent to him.  I hope there will bo now a clear result of my bets - The result which was impossible to have earlier.

Correct, it would have been impossible, luckily with a mistake of yours, we were able to identify the server seed you've played on. So thank you for helping in proving that you are nothing more than a scammer and a blackmailer.


I have given the evidence to holydarkness of OP's bets,  basically OP has lied, he has not played on 15.5%, he has not encountered any 150+ red streak ( sent evidence to holydarkness,  will send to any authorized 3d party aswell if required),  OP is simply a blackmailer and a scammer, who throws dirt and fake accusations, trying to create traction, in the hopes of getting money out of Duckdice (sadly it worked in the past for him, thus the reason why he's making 3 threads on this account now, hoping to strongarm his way into a payment).

Also OP, not bright going after a bitcointalk member who's been active here probably longer than Duckdice was live.

Anyhow, hope this settles the situation... and sadly awaiting your new thread from your new alt account.


Edit to add:  Kind of hilarious OP is making statements like this: https://imgur.com/a/sk7oy9X     while in the same time we receive these kind of emails from OP: https://imgur.com/a/JPkDoJc





Kirito89,


Duckdice Support.

[holydarkness]

For those who are not familiar with the player's case, the player created a thread here about his experience in August 2023, where he claimed he experienced 158 losing streak and thus questions the provable fairness of DuckDice, that the game was rigged.

The provable fairness can easily be proven suppose the player has access to his account. But unfortunately, the account was wiped clean in accordance to GDPR's "right to be forgotten". Fortunately, the player had one screenshot that he shared with his online friend, that contain a betID, that then can be used by DuckDice to emulate the betting activity at that time.

With the help of Khaled0111, DuckDice can build "a list" that prove that the statement of 158 losing streak by the player is invalid. Later, following this findings, the player clarifies that they switched sides often, that effectively made the compilation useless as it proves nothing.

Amidst this uncertainty, of which nutildah summarized rather nicely above as "situation became a convoluted entanglement of accusations from both sides", Kirito89 as DuckDice Representative realized that the betID did not just provide a way to emulate the old gameplay, but also contain the server seed that can be used to pull the betting history.

Know that it is not a violation of GDPR. The betting history being pulled is a nameless bets, with the only ties to the player, and can only be identified as his simply due to the betID given by the player. The server seed is the data stored by the casino for their internal record and does not reflect personal data that ought to be removed following the enactment of Right to be Forgotten.

Breaking down the convoluted story and detangle the entanglement, if we refer to the player original narrative in his thread, he demanded fairness and explanation of the 158 losing streak and the questionable Provable Fairness of DuckDice due to that "outstanding" losing streak. On other threads that the player created, the player assure that his sole goal is to prove the rigged game by DuckDice, the --freely summarized-- malpractice and disguise of provable fairness that he experienced wrongly due to the losing streak that made them lose 0.37 BTC.

Later on, in this very thread, the player made a statement that the purpose the thread he made is to get DuckDice to pay the fund he lost. I asked his confirmation whether the true purpose of those threads, as well as this one, is simply to get the fund he lost on DuckDice, that he once again assured that all he seek is transparency.


The results of what's provided to me, and I can confirm, are as what Kirito89 said above:

Of Provable Fairness due to Losing Streak
The spreadsheet given to me was not like the previous attempt made in collaboration with Khaled0111 where the list shows the longest losing streak in under or over. The spreadsheet that is in my possession, however, is basically the betting history of the player itself, his winning and his losing. 0 and 1. A yes and a no. A win and a lose.

With about thousands of entries that made my eyes water just to scan them, not only that the statement of playing in 15.5% chance is unfounded as the bets were made with 33% chance, the more important point that I think is better to be pointed out rather than the 33% v. 15.5% is that I can not find a losing streak of 158 times. Not even a 50 losing streak in a row.

With this, I believe I can safely say that the claim of 158 losing streak at 15.5% is unproven to be true.

Of Fairness and Transparency as The Aim of The Thread
The player sent DuckDice an email asking for a refund if transparency can not be provided, despite the claim that the purpose of the threads are to get clarification of the losing streak. I can see that the emails are indeed sent from the players email address as shown on the other thread.

Though it entitle overseers to question the real purpose of the threads, I choose to ask the player, for the very last time, of his true intent: with above explanation that provable fairness being proven, that 158 losing streak never existed and DuckDice has been transparent with their games, that it was not rigged, do you still stick to your original narrative, that you only seek for clarification and transparency, thus accepting above findings as satisfactory and made peace with your loss, or were the threads are indeed an attempt to get a refund for loss during your stay with DuckDice, and thus, the above transparency through betting history is negligible and you will not accept any answer until the refund being initiated?

[Horsbyname]

Can I see the bets now? Can I verify them now? Can I see if the bet is win or lose? If the bet is placed on high or low side? Is it showing wining chances now?


Can I see the email I sent a blackmailing email from? The one you posted is mine and it was posted by me to correct kirito89. as he posted half story of my email https://imgur.com/a/JPkDoJc

Then I post the screenshot in full to let the reader know that what I actually wrote and what he trying to make it look like,

I posted : https://imgur.com/a/8wSxYM9

Here what I mailed: https://imgur.com/a/8wSxYM9  it was mailed first time Feb 1-2025 why was you silent for the whole month and you didn’t post that time? But you post it right now when I am asking 9 years badgers?[/b]

It was not a blackmailing attempt at all it was a fair offer